Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy

[anneelaine]

Thanks for that Hugo looks like you have found new family i did not know about
 Ellen and Jane who are they lol
were do I start i thought that there was only William Bell Gt Grandfather that come from Dublin
one step forward 2 back
William Bell Rogerson aged 72 and a widower was living at 13 Wilton Street  Liverpool born Dublin  Ireland.
Also there were Jane Jones a visitor aged 16?   who was a domestic servant born in Llangefni Anglesey
Also Mary Jones a domestic servant aged 32 born in Llangefni Wales
Jane Jones was Mary Jones sister  Mary was my Gt grandfatherreason
 reason for the fall out between Jane and the Davies family?
 was she had my uncle in 1916 say no more
William was the farther she got cast out when they found out
Anneelaine

[anneelaine]

 :rage:Hugo been looking for hours lol What did you put in when looking for W.B 1891
I can see it being a all night'er when you found Jane and Ellen Rogerson
you could have open a can off worms for me lol  It's  sending  husband  mad
Anneelaine

[Hugo]

Just go into the 1891 Census for England and put in William Bell Rogerson and his year of birth then hit the search button.   Easy peasy but look to the right hand side and for nephew then view it.  I think that it is on page 1

Good luck   

Don't try looking for Jane Anne Davies though as you'll be up all night

[anneelaine]

Hugo still could not find W.B what did you say about not staying up all night  :rage:
anyway
1891 Wales Census
about Jane A Davies

Name:
Jane A Davies

Age:
1

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1890

Relation:
Daughter

Father's Name:
Owen Davies

Mother's Name:
Cathrine Davies

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Trefriw, Caernarvonshire, Wales

 

Civil Parish:
Trefriw

Ecclesiastical parish:
Trefriw

Town:
Trefriw

County/Island:
Caernarvonshire

Country:
Wales

 

Street Address:
View Image

Condition as to marriage:
View Image

Education:
View Image

Employment status:
View Image

Occupation:
View Image

 

Registration District:
Llanrwst

Sub-registration District:
Bettwsycoed

ED, institution, or vessel:
9

Neighbors:
View others on page 

Piece:
4633

Folio:
83

Page Number:
3

Household Members:


Name

Age

Owen Davies 32
Cathrine Davies 32
Hugh Davies 8
Mary C Davies 6
Elizabeth E Davies 2
Jane A Davies
 
 
going to bed eyes closing

[Hugo]

Well done Anneelaine,  you deserve a medal and a good night's sleep!       

I drove past the site of the old Pen Sarn Farm this morning and most of it has been taken over as a builders yard but there is an area of overgrown trees nearby so I must have a nosey inside sometime and see if there is any sign of the farm buildings there.

[anneelaine]

Hi Hugo
I think I am right with the family do you know what Owen job was it says a saer?

 Right names
and I heard about a family that live there
 from my aunt but she did not say it was Gt grandmother
And she did say the family had money
A Anneelaine.

[anneelaine]

 :rage: Hugo The only one I can find for 1891 is Roger Rogerson Cannot find W.B
 I Did what you said
Ancestry.co.uk  This was on  is it the right page
 HELP
Anneelaine

[Hugo]

:rage: Hugo The only one I can find for 1891 is Roger Rogerson Cannot find W.B
 I Did what you said
Ancestry.co.uk  This was on  is it the right page
 HELP
Anneelaine

Another late night Anneelaine!     It's quite addictive isn't it.   

When I went to the Library to have a look at the Census all I did was click on the Ancestry Icon,   then scroll down to UK census and click on it.    The brings up all the UK Census records so then click on 1891 England Census.
When that page opens put Williams full name down and his year of birth and just click the search button.
Williams name should pop up and look for nephew on the right hand of the page.     Good luck

[Hugo]

Hi Hugo
I think I am right with the family do you know what Owen job was it says a saer?

 Right names
and I heard about a family that live there
 from my aunt but she did not say it was Gt grandmother
And she did say the family had money
A Anneelaine.

I don't know what occupation a saer was but in Welsh saer means either a wright, mason or carpenter so I'm guessing that his occupation was one of those 3 trades.
By the way have you got a house name for the Davies family as the house could still be there?

[Cambrian]

I have found "Saer" is usually taken to mean a joiner - the root may be the English "sawyer".

[Hugo]

Thanks Cambrian.     

[anneelaine]

HI This is the address it change names but been told this is the name of it now ,  Bryn Rodyn,Trefriw  The stonebuilt cottage the DAVIES were at in 1901
I was also sent a photo but cannot get it on this page says to big
Anneelain

[anneelaine]

 :rage: :rage: Hugo I think I being a bit thick Still cannot fined him all it's giving me is roger
Was he in wales or England at the time 1891 lol Thanks anneelaine

[Hugo]

Anneelaine,  he was in England and that's how I found him on the 1891 England Census.   Are you looking on the 1891 Wales Census?

[anneelaine]

http://www.iwanmwilliams.info/images/properties/LL911.bryn%20rodyn.doc.pdf
photo of Jane house 1901
This is the only one I can find Hugo  Record
williamRogerson  abt 1878 Ashton-Upon-Mersey, Cheshire, England Nephew Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire
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 williamRogerson  abt 1878 Ashton-Upon-Mersey, Cheshire, England Nephew Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire