Following on with the theme of decent pubs, I had a 'discussion' with two Conwy licensees just before the Albion opened. They claimed that there was not enough pub customers to go round the pubs in Conwy already there and that it would just dilute trade even more. I stated (in my own inimitable fashion) that there was plenty of custom locally, but Conwy pubs were not frequented because they were all competing to sell the cheapest lager to the town drunks, thier beer was awful, the places were filthy and the toilets minging. Certainly no place to take Mrs B (unless she was applying for a job as a bouncer) and Conwy pubs were avoided by many decent locals and visitor's alike.
After the obvious success of the Albion, (good beer, clean etc) I reminded them of our conversation. (This actually took place in the Albion) One of them looked around, thought for a moment and then said 'They are catering for a different clientele...'