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Title: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
I seem to remeber that we once had some sort of vote/poll on what was the best Chippy in the area? Perhaps we could have another one - my vote would go to the Galleon in Conwy - eating chips whilst sitting on the Quay watching the world go by - perfect!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on September 03, 2010, 10:34:39 PM
I'm going to say Fish Tram Chips because they take so long you can have a beer in the King's Head while you wait. Well worth the wait though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on September 04, 2010, 09:48:27 PM
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I'm going to say Fish Tram Chips because they take so long you can have a beer in the King's Head while you wait. Well worth the wait though.
;D Has anyone been to Gardners lately?
Gardners is now operated by the guy that owns Casanovas Italian Restaurant above, making a real go of it too with far longer opening hours than before.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
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I seem to remeber that we once had some sort of vote/poll on what was the best Chippy in the area? Perhaps we could have another one - my vote would go to the Galleon in Conwy - eating chips whilst sitting on the Quay watching the world go by - perfect!  ;D

I will give a mention here to the Chippie at West Shore, (On Great Orme's Rd)
He opens very decent hours,  the Fish was excellent ....and his price very reasonable.

NEVER buy fish and chips at the Summit Complex ....I got stung for £8.95,  and I was paying for 3 ....so a total of £27 for fish and chips without even getting a cup of tea, bread or anything....shocking.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 09:21:14 PM
I've not tried the St. George's Plaice chippy yet - has anyone?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 07, 2010, 08:05:13 AM
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NEVER buy fish and chips at the Summit Complex

Interestingly, as long as I've known the place the Summit cafe has never really managed to appeal to folk. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael W on September 07, 2010, 09:49:59 PM
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I've not tried the St. George's Plaice chippy yet - has anyone?
We tried the fish and chips one evening a couple of weeks ago. Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 08, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
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Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

Never had a seagull.  Were they fried or on the bone?

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2010, 08:36:23 AM
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Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

Never had a seagull.  Were they fried or on the bone?

 :D :D :D
Thats quality Ian... _))* _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 10, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
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We tried the fish and chips one evening a couple of weeks ago. Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

The hollow bones mean you get more weight for your money !!! :laugh: _))* :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
Nemesis:  I modified your posting to make the quote work.  Somehow, you'd got both 'end' quote things, instead of a 'start' quote and an 'end' qute .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 10, 2010, 03:31:23 PM
Sorry--- thanks for that :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 24, 2010, 09:58:41 PM
Fat Cat Cafe Bar.

This evening we finally got round to taking up the Fat Cat manager's kind offer of a complimentary meal for two to make up for the bad experience we had a couple of months ago.

 In short this evening's meal, service and general experience were as good as last time's was bad. The fish and chips were excellent and I'm told by my wife that the ribs were especially good. Although I think we may well have been given a slightly bigger than normal portion it was too much for both of us to finish. The service was attentive without being in your face and they wouldn't even accept payment for the drinks which was a nice touch.I'll be writing to let the manager and the head office know of the all round improvement  All in all a good night out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 24, 2010, 10:59:58 PM
Had a superb lunch at The Empire today. It was our Pensioners' Club periodic meeting.
Many thanks to all the staff there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 25, 2010, 11:00:53 PM
The Empire is a well managed and slick operation.
I used to stay there regularly as a visitor before I had the sense to buy a house here...and save money!

I still eat in the poolside restaurant regularly, (the last time only last Thursday) ...it is amazing value at only £15.65 per head,  which includes 4 courses and 1/4 carafe of wine each.    Top notch!

As far as the Fat Cat is concerned, apart from one blip a few weeks ago when the chef let them down, the food and service there is very hard to beat.

Its a tough choice which one to eat in, so I flip between both.    (and there are a many other good value propositions in Upper Mostyn St and close by.. The Emperor,  The Rose Tor, and just round the corner ..the Asia and Valentinos are all excellent in thier own different ways.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on September 26, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Went to the Links today for the carvery lunch, very nice and tasty, it is well run and there is no queuing for your food. The staff were very pleasant and helpful.Well worth a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Interesting B,    *&(

Didn't know that they did a carvery at the Links,
Tell me more,  how much was it?   Whats the choice?   etc...
There are a lot of carvery's around ...and they vary quite a bit.

I've heard that non-residents can partake of the 3 course Carvery in The Grand on an evening,  for only a tenner its supposed to be very good,  anyone been?

Fest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on September 26, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
It`s just on a Sunday Fester we bought a pint of bitter and a half of lager plus two lunches and it came to £19 odd so we reckon the meal must have been just under £8 for the one course we did`nt have a sweet (no room), The choice was Turkey Beef and Pork lovely gravy not runny like some places. Hubby had the Beef and said it just melted in the mouth it was so tender.They said they served till 5 if the food lasted out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
Mmmmm Tasty!

Did you have to choose one meat? 
I like those carveries where you get some of all the meats if you like,  and can even go back for more...
I think the Aberhod Old Hall is like that..?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
Fester you weren't by any chance hungry when you responded to the last couple of inputs into this thread. I've never before known any responses be delivered with saliva dripping from them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:29:30 PM
Love the motto by the way!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 27, 2010, 12:03:27 AM
Oh, Mr Medz ...  surely its obvious by my postings on threads such as this, that I AM ALWAYS hungry !

Its midnight now,  I've just got in after an excellent night in the Cottage Loaf,  and Mrs Fester is away, so I am pin-balling around the kitchen looking for easy to prepare food !!

Mmmmm  FOOD  !!

Is there a Carvery open at this time?  ?{}? ?{}?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 27, 2010, 06:02:10 AM
Just have to persuade Dave to join the 'rabble' and give the place a try now.  ZXZ

Don't worry Dave, the Tudno Ward is actually quite safe. Just don't go alone.  L0L

http://www.linkshotelllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.linkshotelllandudno.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 08:05:47 AM
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so I am pin-balling around the kitchen looking for easy to prepare food !!


 _))* _))* _))*

Astonishingly vivid imagery :-))
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 07:43:03 PM
Bellringer, a few posts back you mention a lunch at the Empire for your pensioners club.  I think I am correct in saying the Chairman, maybe President, goes by the name of Mr. Trehearne. Would he be part of the Trehearne family from the Savoy in Rhyl? If he is the one, I remember him joining the staff of Barclays in the early 1960s.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 27, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
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Bellringer,  Would he be part of the Trehearne family from the Savoy in Rhyl? If he is the one, I remember him joining the staff of Barclays in the early 1960s.

Your memory probably serves you well Mike - he is Philip Trehearn and is the Club Chairman. I know he has connections in Penrhyn Bay but now lives in mid Wales.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Well, this is not a particularly nice way to settle the matter, but I dont suppose he is likely to read this forum. Is he extremely short in height? i.e. around 4 foot 8 or 9? If so, thats him. Not that it matters, its just to satisfy my curiousity.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 04, 2010, 11:02:39 AM
I'll not be eating fish and chips again after hearing that  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 05, 2010, 01:04:17 AM
This is a subject I posted on Oscar earlier...but I want more people to be aware.
I wasn't sure whether it belonged on this thread...whats Llandudno like right now, or policing matters!
But here goes.

Word has reached me that on Thurs night a policeman entered the Fat Cat bar and told them that they had to stop their 'but one get one free' cocktail offer which has been in force for at least 2 years to my knowledge. 
He said it was 'irresponsible' ... so the offer was pulled.

Well, how can this be??  There is no law (as I understand it) that has been passed on this, and at £6.50 per drink its hardly going to encourage binge drinking because lets face it,  its still not cheap!

I wonder if this officer is also going to call in on Cost Cutter?  Wetherspoons? and even ASDA .... you can find a whole lot of cut price booze in those places.   Of course not, these are national chains and too much like hard work.

This is a real threat to Fat Cat's business, which is a well run establishment.  It is quiet enough these days without this.

How are businesses supposed to survive when petty and ill-judged actions like this can undermine their efforts?

If I had been the bar manager that night, I would simply have noted the officers objection, and referred it to head office.
Because Fat Cat's is also part of a chain, albeit a small one.





This is a real threat to Fat Cat's business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2010, 07:31:42 AM
I'm amazed that anyone pays £6.50 for one drink  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
When I was in Wetherspoons the other day, I was struck by the number of people who appear to spend all day in there, there seems to be quite a large group who congregate around the large tables by the bar and Fester said that they are already in there at 9.30am when he calls in for a bacon bap. I looked at them whilst I waited to order my burger and and the phrase that popped into my head was 'living dead' - these people are merely existing, nothing more. And who is paying for all their alcohol?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 05, 2010, 09:49:24 AM
Hate to say it, but probably indirectly   You Are
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 05, 2010, 10:38:38 AM
Perhaps they are B+ B owners closed for the Winter?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2010, 01:19:16 PM
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When I was in Wetherspoons the other day, I was struck by the number of people who appear to spend all day in there, there seems to be quite a large group who congregate around the large tables by the bar and Fester said that they are already in there at 9.30am when he calls in for a bacon bap. I looked at them whilst I waited to order my burger and and the phrase that popped into my head was 'living dead' - these people are merely existing, nothing more. And who is paying for all their alcohol?

Whilst I like going there every so often for a meal, the thought of spending all day in there is horrifying! apart from anything else its so dark in there!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 05, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
I remember talking to a guy at the bar years ago and he was chuffed as he'd recieved a benefit rise.  Not a problem I hear you say, until I asked him why he'd had the extra money. He said he'd applied for extra benefit as he was an alcoholic!  I couldn't believe it. It appears if you can prove you are alcohol dependant you can get the tax payer to pay.  Whilst I understand that alcoholism is a serious matter, surely it would be better to provide  help to these  individuals instead of financing the alcohol which is slowly causing their demise. )*)&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 06, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
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I couldn't believe it. It appears if you can prove you are alcohol dependant you can get the tax payer to pay.

It's not quite that simple. If you're receiving treatment for a debilitating condition, which might be allied to alcoholism or of which alcoholism is a component, then your level of disability might be reassessed.  However, alcoholism is personality-related, so he might well have been assessed by a psychiatrist for any one of a number of mental illnesses. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
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The owner does not seem able to cook him self.


Maybe he needs a bigger pot!     L0L
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Post by: Pendragon on December 06, 2010, 03:46:40 PM
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Maybe he needs a bigger pot!     L0L
See now this post is an example of where I just wanted to put in lots of laughing smileys Yorkie, 'cos it made me laugh, however we've been asked not to by our moderators, so I'll have to write something too...................Oh I just have
 _))* _))* L0L L0L   WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 06, 2010, 04:02:13 PM
I was going to go there tomorrow for one of their Magnificent 7 meals but can't now.   I'll have to survive on more biscuits at the coffee morning instead.     :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 06, 2010, 05:45:40 PM
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The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.


Which cafe is this? I hope its not Wetherspoons!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2010, 07:31:55 PM
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The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.
Which cafe is this? I hope its not Wetherspoons!
No, its the customers that get assaulted in Wetherspoons, not the staff.  ;D

Orient Express is across the road from Wetherspoons, two doors down from Mr. Roberts' Newspaper Emporium.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 06, 2010, 09:18:20 PM
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[No, its the customers that get assaulted in Wetherspoons, not the staff.  ;D

Orient Express is across the road from Wetherspoons, two doors down from Mr. Roberts' Newspaper Emporium.

 L0L Thanks Dave, I was getting confused with all this Wetherspoons talk on this thread  ))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 09:33:59 AM
I found this news story very surprising, not to say disappointing:  :(


"CUSTOMERS fell ill with the stomach bug salmonella after eating food bought from a popular café, it was alleged yesterday.

Badgers café in Llandudno is facing five hygiene and cleanliness charges after an “outbreak” of the bug, the town’s Magistrates court heard.

Badgers, in the Victoria Shopping Centre on Mostyn Street, is accused of selling food deemed to be unfit for human consumption on or before September 26, 2009.

The food allegedly caused an illness due to “salmonella enteritidis PT14b”, the charge read yesterday said.

The case is being brought by Conwy county council council under Food Hygiene (Wales) Regulations 2004 and the Food Safety 1990 Act.

The café is also accused of failing to put in place, implement and maintain hygiene procedures, on November 17, 2009.

The same charge was put to Badgers (Llandudno) Ltd, based at the same address, on or before September 22 and September 23 this year.

The fourth hygiene act charge is that Badgers is alleged to have failed to keep its premises clean and maintained in good repair and condition.

In a fifth charge, the same company is also said to have failed to effectively clean and where necessary disinfect all articles, fittings and equipment with which food comes into contact.

Staff are said to have failed to do so often enough to “avoid risk of contamination”.

Finally Badgers (Llandudno) Ltd is accused of a sixth offence of offering for sale a natural yoghurt after its “use by” date expired.

This charge was brought under the Food Labelling Regulations Act 1996 and under the Food Safety Act 1990.

Prosecutor Stuart Dunn, of Conwy County Borough Council, told the court: “The proceedings follow an outbreak of stomach problems for a number of costumers.” He added that there was a “substantial amount” of technical evidence in the case and it was not yet ready to proceed. None of the charges have been proved. Magistrates adjourned the case until February 1, 2011."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/12/08/salmonella-at-llandudno-s-badgers-caf-made-diners-sick-55578-27785959/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/12/08/salmonella-at-llandudno-s-badgers-caf-made-diners-sick-55578-27785959/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 01:10:18 PM
Who are these costumers who were ill then?      )*)&   (Last paragraph)
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Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2010, 03:35:54 PM
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Who are these costumers who were ill then?      )*)&   (Last paragraph)
*&( _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:15:56 PM
No excuse for poor hygiene in Badgers.... they are right at the top end of the pricing scale... they rake it in, and its very disappointing.

Orient Express Cafe is a different story,  I have a breakfast there which was utter garbage and I vowed not to go back,  But Mrs Fester wanted to try again, and sometime later we got a lunch there... it was even worse.  Nothing I hear about that place could surprise.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 07:47:20 PM
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Orient Express Cafe is a different story,  I have a breakfast there which was utter garbage and I vowed not to go back,  But Mrs Fester wanted to try again, and sometime later we got a lunch there... it was even worse.  Nothing I hear about that place could surprise.
A friend of mine has said the same.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 09:35:30 AM
Fester was saying that the Cross Keys pub in Madoc Street has already closed down (it was due to close in early January). Is trading really that bad?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 10, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
  :(I would say that trade is very poor for all pubs but if you have nice food you can get bye.The wife and i went out two weeks ago on a saturday nite,we went to wethers ,Town House,Cross Keys and theKings Arms,all where quiet so if there is no trade on a Saturday nite there will be a lot more closing.The Kings Arms became very busy after eleven because loads of Motorhead fans came in from Venue Cymru Arena and so generated much needed trade,unfortunatly there are not enought gigs being put on by CCBC :rage:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
The Kings Head was pretty busy last night, I was surprised. Unless they were all there to see what the forum members looked like!  ;D :o 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 10, 2010, 03:16:45 PM
I drove past the Orient Express yesterday and the place was lit up but I could not see if it was open for business or not.
Hope everything is sorted out soon  for the owner as I must admit that I do enjoy the magnificent 7 breakfast that they have there. At £4.75 it includes a cup of coffee too and is good value for money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on December 10, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
This is bad news about Badgers. Don't forget that at this moment they have only been charged------they have not been found guilty. I only hope it does'ent end up like a similar situation I knew about many,many years ago. There was a very well known and respected firm of family bakers in Mold with branches in Holywell, Flint and Prestatyn name of Hulsons. An elderly man in Mold died suddenly, I think he was in his late eightys, but because he was very fit and the death was very sudden, an inquest was held. In the inquest his Son gave evidence and he said "I went to see my Father on the morning of his death and he was just enjoying eating a large pork pie which he had purchased from Hulsons in the High Street. " The Coroner immediately adjourned the inquest so that Hulsons could, if they wished, attend or seek legal advice. It was headline news in all the local papers. From that day the very successful firm started to decline. Customers left in their droves, branches were gradually closed down, and, after being in business for very many years, after about three years they went bust. At the renewed inquest it was found that the old man had died of a heart attack. That never made the papers, it was'ent news. But the damage to Hulsons reputation had been done.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
It may be a shame but as they say in the Forces it's a "self inflicted" injury!     :weeping:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 05:21:53 PM
Orient Express is back open today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 11, 2010, 04:48:02 PM
That's good news Dave, I'll look forward to going there asap.    D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 16, 2010, 03:09:38 PM
The Mail Coach in Conwy is now open! I noticed a few people inside and pints being consumed on Monday and Tuesday evening but haven't been in myself.

Anyone been in yet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2010, 05:50:31 PM
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Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$
Try the Bacon & Brie Panini in the coffee shop above Waterstones - It's £5 something but is great!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 07:07:26 PM
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Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$
Try the Bacon & Brie Panini in the coffee shop above Waterstones - It's £5 something but is great!

I intend to try the Brie and Bacon Panini...but in Coffi Conwy, tomorrow!    £3.85.   Irresitable.   $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dwyforite on December 17, 2010, 12:28:22 AM
went into mail coach monday night,no draught bitter;at all no john smiths,asked the pub manager why,he said the people who were to come in had not put in a full order and then changed their mind about moving in.in from 20-00 till 20-30. on my own not a good start,i would expect that on first night you would make sure things were right.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2010, 08:12:37 AM
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went into mail coach monday night,no draught bitter;at all no john smiths,asked the pub manager why,he said the people who were to come in had not put in a full order and then changed their mind about moving in.in from 20-00 till 20-30. on my own not a good start,i would expect that on first night you would make sure things were right.
Yes, better to have left it for another day and made sure they were fully stocked before opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
I want to give a special mention to The Fat Cat bar.

Last night (and again tonight) they had almost all their customers cancel their Xmas meals and parties.
I was talking to the Manager and the food wastage was colossal.   On top of that, they had drafted in lots of extra staff who, in good faith, needed to be paid.
Despite this, Fat Cat took the decision to re-imburse ALL monies taken for bookings...INCLUDING all deposits!
They are hopeful that this goodwill gesture will encourage some customers to re-book for after Xmas when trade is dire.

I wish them all the best.
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
That speaks volumes for the management of the Fat Cat especially in these difficult times.  Let's hope that the weather improves and  that they have prosperous times ahead.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on December 19, 2010, 05:53:43 AM
I must admit I've never been a great fan of The Fat Cat but that is very impressive. I hope it pays off for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
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They are hopeful that this goodwill gesture will encourage some customers to re-book for after Xmas when trade is dire

It's interesting, but bad weather preventing parties arriving is one of those legal grey areas. Maenan Abbey has suffered a similar fate, and has taken the same action.

In law, you make a contract when you book a meal and - if you don't attend - you're liable for the costs incurred by the restaurant. However, the sorts of weather we've had would probably be interpreted by the courts as constituting a 'reasonable' case for being unable to fulfil your part of the contract.  Having said that, both parties involved could - if they wished - opt for cancellation insurance.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 19, 2010, 09:44:45 AM
Hopefully companies will reschedule their office xmas parties for January when the restaurant trade is usually extremely slow. Maybe this can work out for the better for all involved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Insurance??

I was thinking of buying a kebab tonight......but it might be wise to invest in some cancellation insurance in case I change my mind and go for a Chinky instead.

Life is such a minefield isn't it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 19, 2010, 12:13:56 PM
(Edited)

We had to cancel our works dinner at the Imperial, not sure what will happen with the money there.
Fair play to the businesses that have refunded the deposits.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2010, 12:30:39 PM
Cartier:  I have removed a personal reference from your posting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on December 20, 2010, 08:18:24 PM
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Insurance??

I was thinking of buying a kebab tonight......but it might be wise to invest in some cancellation insurance in case I change my mind and go for a Chinky instead.

Life is such a minefield isn't it?

You should insure as "Third party fire and theft" just in case the meal after the second one isn't very good, the place catches fire, of someone nicks your kebab.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on December 20, 2010, 08:21:47 PM
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Cartier:  I have removed a personal reference from your posting.

Cartier seems to be treading on thin ice at the moment.

I heard the ice on the Carlton Corner was particulary treacherous until it was gritted.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 20, 2010, 09:46:34 PM
The opposite corner was just as bad, literally covered in ice really dangerous  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 23, 2010, 08:33:43 AM
Popped into the Mail Coach in Conwy last night. Very dodgy clientèle and situation, IMHO. I won't be going back. Apparently the guy running it now is just temporary.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 26, 2010, 04:46:04 PM
Cross Keys on Madoc Street has re-opened under new management.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 27, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
I wish them all the luck in the world Jack, but I have to wonder just how long they will last.
If a good Landlord like Graham couldn't make it work there's not much hope for the newbees. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on December 27, 2010, 04:01:52 PM
I wish them luck too. The Cross was the first pub I ever went to (at the age of about 5/6yrs - it was in the blackout anyway) and was a favourite until it got gentrified. It was once a Llandudno intellectual institution with the "brains trust" of Dick Lewis, Biffo et al holding forth all afternoon and into the evening.  ££$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2010, 04:07:41 PM
Isn't it the lads from the Townhouse that have taken it on?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 27, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
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Isn't it the lads from the Townhouse that have taken it on?

I have been told that too :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 27, 2010, 04:48:02 PM
yes i was told it was them too. i wish them all the luck they deserve. :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on January 08, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
I went in New Years Eve very busy and they have Peronni on draft, anyone tried the food yet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
Not been enough reviews on here for a while.... but its time for a new one.

Tonight, Mr and Mrs Fester decided to pop in for a meal in a place we have been before, and beore it was OK... .... but NOW there has been a big change.

We were drawn to a poster in the window of PARS RESTAURANT.     ''Eat all you can buffet .... £11.50''
My first reaction, was OK, might be worth a try .... but we didn't expect much for £11.50

It is not a curry house, it is not an Indian.... it is Iranian / Persian cuisine.... and I must say, its absolutely 1st class.
Surely It won't last ... offers as good as this never do, in my experience.  ¢¢## ¢¢##

In a nutshell, you CANNOT eat better than this for that price.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

There is a buffet of silver salvers and servers, and as you lift off each lid, the different starters and main courses tempt you with their superb spices, but the quality of the meat and ingredients is obvious to the eye.
When it says Lamb Tagine, it means LAMB.   Too often restaurants are tempted to substitute beef for lamb... but not at PARS.
There are several Lamb dishes, numerous chicken dishes, rices, vegetarian options etc....  and each one is excellent.
The owner came out to speak with us after our meal, and he is planning to add a fish course too!
A very nice guy who has owned businesses in Llandudno for many, many years...

We eat out very often in Llandudno, and often find good value ... but now it will be hard to avoid making this our preferred choice.

Basically,  I can't fault it.
I have visited and worked in India, and although this is Persian, I know that this food is way above what I have eaten in this or other countries.
Good luck to them .... I can see then being incredibly busy, too busy for me to get a table, very soon.

For £11.50, eat all you want .... how can you go wrong?   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on February 11, 2011, 10:21:30 PM
Where is it mate ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Upper Mostyn Street, one down from Fat Cat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on February 11, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
Cheers Dave, I don't know town that well. :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 11, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
You’re quite right Fester. its on my recommended list to our guests. If you really enjoyed your meal be a friend and give them a five star write up on TripAdvisor. When you see some of the other places in the town that have got higher placing you realise there is no natural justice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 11, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
flippin eck fester my mouth was watering just reading that i,ll have to give that place a go ,we enjoy candles always lovely food and great service
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2011, 11:33:30 PM
If you like your food spicy,  and you are a carnivore like me .... you can't go wrong.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2011, 12:00:24 AM
It sounds great and we must give it a try.

I wonder if there are already new owners in place or the maybe the present owner is trying to boost his turnover to help encourage a sale.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=142&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=142&o=1)

Either way, it certainly looks good value-for-money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on February 12, 2011, 12:02:05 AM
Nice write up, sounds good, cheap and different to the norm, must try it.
Is it licensed?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 12, 2011, 12:13:38 AM
Sure is.... we washed it down with a neat little bottle of house white,   Z** Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on February 12, 2011, 12:49:49 AM
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In a nutshell, you CANNOT eat better than this for that price.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

Probably why it's so cheap.

You can't fit much food in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on March 04, 2011, 09:06:45 PM
Maybe worth checking out this website, makes for interesting reading!
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 10:03:42 PM
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Maybe worth checking out this website, makes for interesting reading!
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Very interesting reading!

Just glad the Fat Cat got a 4, I eat there all the time.

You have to laugh, the Groes Inn in Tyn Y Groes got 1/5...and the prices they charge!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 05, 2011, 12:20:31 AM
The Groes Inn has a great reputation, but is very over-rated.

I was eager to try it (because of the aura that surronds it) .... but it was very basic, and over priced Pub Fodder.

Gammon Steak,  Steak and Ale Pie,  Lasagne etc....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 05, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
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The Groes Inn has a great reputation, but is very over-rated.I was eager to try it (because of the aura that surronds it)

There was fog surrounding it last time I was there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 05, 2011, 07:55:19 AM
Thanks, Suepp;  I'll add it to our useful links page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2011, 02:08:32 PM
How NOT to drink a can of Coke
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2011, 03:52:16 PM
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street is currently closed whilst new owners refurbish it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 14, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
That's two properties in the same area, as they have the chemists on Hooson's Corner which is in a terrible state of repair now. Goodness only knows what it will be like outside when it closes next month.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on March 14, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 14, 2011, 08:05:05 PM
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A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)


Bracketing The Jenivore and Barnacles Chippie together is a bit of a worry isn't it !   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 15, 2011, 07:49:41 AM
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A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)

dwsi: this has been on our links page for some time...

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.0)


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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
Alexandra Pub shut down!

LICENSING officials meet next week to discuss the future of a hotel after a weekend of disorder. There were several incidents inside and outside The Alexandra Hotel in Clonmel Street, Llandudno on Friday, February 25 and Saturday, February 26 this year.

Within days, North Wales Police secured an order to close the premises pending a fast track review of its licence on Wednesday, March 23 at 9.30am.

Conwy County Borough Council’s licensing sub committee will meet at Llandudno Town Hall to consider a police request for an “expedited” or (speeded up) review of the premises. One person was arrested for affray and drug related offences on February 26. The following day seven more people were arrested with more arrests planned. Police acted to uphold conditions of the licence including to prevent crime and disorder.

At the Alexandra Hotel, a Conwy County Borough Council sign was put up stating: “In the opinion of a senior police officer the premises are associated with serious crime and serious disorder.” Inspector Ian Verburg, of North Wales Police, said yesterday: “We acted very swiftly to uphold the licensing objectives to prevent crime and disorder.”

The holder of the premises licence, Oxford Hotels & Inns Management Ltd, of City Road, London, said: “We never comment on things like this.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/19/police-demand-licence-review-at-llandudno-s-alexandra-hotel-55578-28363625/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/19/police-demand-licence-review-at-llandudno-s-alexandra-hotel-55578-28363625/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on March 19, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
From what I've been told.  Two women from Anglesey took it over.  They had a party and it was their guests who kicked off not locals.  One party goer having been slashed across the neck with a broken glass (not sure if that's just hear say mind)I wonder if they'll get their deposit back?  Under those circumstances I'm not sure.
The Pub-co is also to blame here .  The pub is dark and dingey inside, refurbishment is down to the Pub-co..  The Alex has a lot of rooms but due to fire regs they can't let them as the fire escape needs replacing, again down to the Pub-co.  The kitchen does not meet health and hygiene standard either.  So basically it's dead in the water.
Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2011, 02:51:35 PM
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From what I've been told.  Two women from Anglesey took it over.  They had a party and it was their guests who kicked off not locals.  One party goer having been slashed across the neck with a broken glass (not sure if that's just hear say mind)I wonder if they'll get their deposit back?  Under those circumstances I'm not sure.
The Pub-co is also to blame here .  The pub is dark and dingey inside, refurbishment is down to the Pub-co..  The Alex has a lot of rooms but due to fire regs they can't let them as the fire escape needs replacing, again down to the Pub-co.  The kitchen does not meet health and hygiene standard either.  So basically it's dead in the water.
Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 

Pen, I heard exactly the same from a lady who was working the bar that night. She also said that the visitors then went down to The King's arms and some trouble there caused the police to close that down for the night aswell.

The lady I spoke to also suggested that the licensing problems might be caused by the fact that Jimmy's name is still "above the door" but you'll understand the implications of that better than I.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 19, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
I wonder why nice Mr Policeman didn't arrest a few and plaster a few posters about the town with their mugshots!    Another, different, sort of bug the town seems to have!     ZXZ   Z**   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2011, 08:06:08 PM
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Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 
No need to imagine but I suspect you will be surprised. Business rates payable in 2010 were £8,793.50.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:29:04 PM
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
Paid a visit to the Corner Cafe in Rhos on Sea this afternoon. Good quality Illy coffee (always a good sign) and the food was a basic cafe menu but very well done. It's on the corner (funnily enough) across the road from HSBC. Worth a visit, I think.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 04:49:47 PM
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The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.

Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
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Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 04:59:14 PM
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It would appear that Aldi are planning on closing their Llandudno store, as it is shown as being available to let. Rental is £245,000 per year:

http://www.lambandswift.com/PropertySheet.aspx?id=119 (http://www.lambandswift.com/PropertySheet.aspx?id=119)

Wow, seems a lot. Makes me wonder how Superbowl manae to stay in business. The place is always empty midweek and isn't exactly heaving on the weekends anymore either

Do they still have the Polish Entrance?

I popped to McDonalds on Mostyn Champneys Retail Park in Llandudno earlier, and as I drove out, noticed that Llandudno Superbowl has apparently taken the decision to travel back in time towards the days of racial segregation by employing a separate entrance for Poles:

http://www.garysmith.org.uk/blog/index.php/blog/show/Casual-racism-is-alive-and-well-at-Llandudno-Superbowl.html (http://www.garysmith.org.uk/blog/index.php/blog/show/Casual-racism-is-alive-and-well-at-Llandudno-Superbowl.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
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The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
Yes, was in there the other week. Could do with a revamp, in my view.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:12:53 PM
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The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
Yes, was in there the other week. Could do with a revamp, in my view.

Yes, it's had the same decor for years. Ninteen may prove to be stiff competition for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 20, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
I've heard that Aldi is NOT now closing... nor moving.

Anyone know for sure?  (I like Aldi)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 21, 2011, 12:13:05 AM
I hope your rumour is correct, Aldi is OK, great to whizz around when you only want a few basic items that would take you an age to get at Asda.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2011, 08:08:23 AM
So Aldi say they're not closing or moving....but their store is available for rent. Draw your own conclusions.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2011, 11:09:22 AM
Saw this review of the Alex on Tripadvisor:

This has to be one of the most depressing places in Llandundno,booked 3 single rooms, on arrival told no singles but could have a family room and a double, person in charge sorted keys, and then said rooms were on the 5th floor but no lift hallways dark (lights did not come on til almost at the top, doors to rooms did not close , one push and the door would have been open, felt very wary, Family room: lamp not working, TV not working, the beds were a disgrace only lay on them to test and could feel all springs, so uncomfortable, very poor condition and a poky room

Double room: next floor up, door still not shutting again one push and would have been open, TV one channel only , remote not working, had a freeview box (not working) remote no batteries, when tried to hang coat in wardrobe the bar fell off a cheap melamine wardrobe that had seen better days, again a poky room for a double, bed had more humps than a camel disgusting .quilt cover ripped, carpet stained very sad state of decor.

went out to get cash to pay as they would not accept card payment, (thank god for small mercies)on returning to hotel at 1.30 after a night out the place was in total darkness and we could not get in, key would not open the door as the door had been locked from inside, no staff on premises,found phone number in a window 3 floors up , to ask for them to open and let us in,

person in charge was in a pub and said he would be there in 5 mins or so, even he could not get in and had to go round the back and climb in through a window, once again lights did not come on up the stairs, so we packed up and left at 2. 30 am and we slept in the car as we felt unsafe inside this nightmare of a hotel.

I am only thankfull that at least we had not paid, and as we did not spend the night there will not be paying


http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d1656712-r73307767-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS#CHECK_RATES_CONT (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d1656712-r73307767-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS#CHECK_RATES_CONT)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on March 21, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
in a town full of B&B's and Hotels that seems more like carelessness than bad luck  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on March 21, 2011, 02:23:11 PM
Hasthe newsagents opposite the North Western hotel in Vaughan Street closed down?  The buildingh is covered with scaffolding and it was closed yesterday, Sunday.
Also there seems to be building stuff in the old information office in Chapel Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 22, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
Seems Llandudno is finally going to get an Antique shop (next to Kindways @ 6 Trinity Avenue)
bet it ends up just being a junk shop
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2011, 08:15:10 AM
Hasn’t there been an antique shop in Vaughan Street near the Imperial Hotel for many years ?


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 23, 2011, 09:16:58 AM
You're right Bri, it's been there for years (at least 50 that I can remember )      I think that their name was Lee and Jas' brother Bryan married the daughter of the owner.
Jas said that her brother in law has taken over the business from his parents.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 09:33:35 AM
I bought our Silver cutlery from there almost 40 years ago when we were up visiting my in-laws.  There was also an antique shop in Madoc Street where the Round Table shop is and also one at West Shore.   Most of the antique Business has moved to Deganwy with a new one due to open where the cafe was and also the Junction with Collinge's place.
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Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 04:30:56 PM
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also the Junction with Collinge's place.

http://www.collingeantiques.com/ (http://www.collingeantiques.com/)
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Post by: brumbob on March 23, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
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Hasn’t there been an antique shop in Vaughan Street near the Imperial Hotel for many years ?
An antique antique shop, not exactly the high class place I'd have envisaged  :laugh:
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Post by: brumbob on March 23, 2011, 05:29:51 PM
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also the Junction with Collinge's place.

http://www.collingeantiques.com/ (http://www.collingeantiques.com/)
Thanks for the link Steve, I'll be checking this place out  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
Collinge has some nice stuff in his shop, you can easily spend an hour looking through it all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 23, 2011, 07:35:55 PM
Dave, really, never mind spending an hour looking around, how about five minutes putting your hand in your stitched pocket? LOL
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:23:29 AM
"A “WILD WEST” pub brawl that left a man needing 26 stitches caused the closure of a seaside hotel.

The fracas at The Alexandra Hotel in Clonmel Street, Llandudno, involved 20 people, and led to the police shutting down the premises.

Yesterday Conwy’s licensing sub committee met at Llandudno Town Hall to review the licence and heard they had no door staff on the night of the brawl and that it followed another “violent incident” outside the pub the evening before.

They ruled it should remain closed."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/24/wild-west-brawl-at-llandudno-hotel-55578-28393151/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/24/wild-west-brawl-at-llandudno-hotel-55578-28393151/)
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 03:42:49 PM
Inspector Ian Verburg, of North Wales Police, said later: “The reason it was so serious was bad management. Door supervisors would have stopped it descending into something like from the Wild West and stopped someone needing 26 stitches.”

How does he know this for sure?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 24, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
Because he has a pointy hat coverying his pointy head wherein he has some pointyless brains. $walesflag$

Only joking!      :P
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
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Because he has a pointy hat coverying his pointy head wherein he has some pointyless brains. $walesflag$

Only joking!      :P

I thought Inspectors have flat caps?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:29:10 PM
Had lunch in the Top Table cafe and restaurant (the old Nineteen opposite the Town Hall in Llandudno) today. It was almost full and the service seemed a little slow as a result (they are probably still finding their feet as well). However, the food and drink was good and the staff were friendly. Prices about average. Certainly worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 31, 2011, 09:15:45 PM
Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$
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Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 11:18:45 AM
This morning I was sat in the lounge waiting for my wife to summon me in for breakfast, but then I heard an almighty CRASH...

I dashed into the kitchen,  and she had collapsed on the floor.... I went into a blind panic!

But then I remembered...Wetherspoons do an all-day breakfast.   Phew! $dins$

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Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2011, 11:20:33 AM
You rotten beggar !
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Post by: suepp on April 01, 2011, 05:20:57 PM
Went for a walk round Conwy last night and decided to get some  chips, we were just about to give up and go to the Junction when we spotted the Archway chippy was open, went in and had a sit down meal, very reasonable, extensive menu, lovely  fish n chips and lovely surroundings.
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Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
I won't reveal the name of the Llandudno pub that charges £2.75 for a Latte!
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Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 08:51:26 PM
Eh?  We had a coffee in the Venue Cymru.... then you went to Cafe Culture... and then you obviously went elsewhere.

Just how many coffee shops can you patronise in one day man?
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Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
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Eh?  We had a coffee in the Venue Cymru.... then you went to Cafe Culture... and then you obviously went elsewhere.

Just how many coffee shops can you patronise in one day man?
Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;) The photo is actually from last night....  ?{}?
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Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
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Post by: Yorkie on April 01, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
The Lilly comes to mind.
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Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
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I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
 :o £2.75 and they say 'with a hint of coffee flavouring' so it's mainly milk then, good profit margins there!
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Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:20:23 AM
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Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$

March 31.....Thursday? It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???

http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx)
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Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:22:38 AM
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I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....

My money is on the Fat Cat.
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Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:24:40 AM
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Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;)

Are you on the payroll yet?  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:14:35 AM
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Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$
It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???
Think about it, Trojan, think about it....  :twoface:
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:16:17 AM
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I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....

My money is on the Fat Cat.
Not the Feline Giganticus. It was actually the Queen Vic. :o
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:18:18 AM
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Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;)

Are you on the payroll yet?  ;D
Couldn't afford me, mate...  8)
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 05:06:31 PM
I see the Alexandra pub in Llandudno now has 'Pub To Let' signs in its windows.
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Post by: Fester on April 03, 2011, 07:14:14 PM
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Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$

March 31.....Thursday? It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???

http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx)

Err.. exactly....can you think of a better night to go??  D)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 03, 2011, 07:16:23 PM
What about men in kilts?       $wales
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Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Fester and I are at the Charity Welsh Night at the Fat Cat - food is fantastic!
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Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:11:18 PM
 :) I see there is another new restaurant opposite the Queen Vic to be called Hugo;s and at last it looks like the old Howard hotel is about to open after god knows how many years of restoration,to be called the Iris hotel ZXZ
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Post by: Paddy on April 06, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
If anyone is on Upper Mostyn Street and struggling to find a bite to eat, don't panic, there is a branch of Toppolino's opening next to Buttercup!
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Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2011, 09:19:10 PM
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If anyone is on Upper Mostyn Street and struggling to find a bite to eat, don't panic, there is a branch of Toppolino's opening next to Buttercup!
It looks hideous - the side of the building is covered in massive pictures of pizzas. Did they get Planning permission for this in a Conservation Area?
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Post by: Fester on April 07, 2011, 12:10:35 AM
Its a disgrace and an eyesore... this is NOT what Llandudno needs in that area.

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Post by: Trojan on April 07, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
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and at last it looks like the old Howard hotel is about to open after god knows how many years of restoration,to be called the Iris hotel ZXZ

That's a real eye-opener.  8)
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Post by: wrex on April 07, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
 Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D
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Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X
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Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 08:29:56 AM
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Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X

Just remember that there are experts on the Forum who can give you support and Councelling if you feel that you need support and are unable to disipline yourself!    L0L   L0L     L0L
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Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X

Just remember that there are experts on the Forum who can give you support and Councelling if you feel that you need support and are unable to disipline yourself!    L0L   L0L     L0L

It's okay, I've just had a few drinks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on April 10, 2011, 12:40:07 PM
Is there a reason why the end of the pier cafe only sells paper cups of tea coffee and hot chocolate, bottled drinks  and prepackaged cakes and biscuits, Seems a waste of a prime spot to me
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 04:55:43 PM
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Is there a reason why the end of the pier cafe only sells paper cups of tea coffee and hot chocolate, bottled drinks  and prepackaged cakes and biscuits, Seems a waste of a prime spot to me
Lack of ambition!
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
The most excellent Fat Cat Cafe Bar is closed until Thursday for refurbishment. Where will Fester eat his Stir Fry now?  :laugh:

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Post by: CurlyCap on April 14, 2011, 09:58:54 AM
Can anyone advise me of Child Friendly Pubs, Cafe's, etc, in the Llandudno or surrounding area?
 (I've attempted to look back through old posts to see if this has been discussed before but my connection is so slow at the minute )

When we have friends visiting, we regularly go to the one attached to the Premier Inn, on the Roundabout off the A55 (Llandudno exit), it has a separate play area that the children love but are there any others close by?

We've noticed that many of the cafe bars, pubs, hotels, etc in Llandudno don't really advertise Children's menu's or state clearly that Children are welcome. (This is fair enough as I'm sure many adults without kids prefer to have a bite to eat without noisy children spoiling their evening) there just doesn't seem to be anywhere obvious in Llandudno town centre that is cheap and cheerful for the kids but pleasant enough to keep us adults entertained with a nice snack or meal too.

Any suggestions........
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Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 11:45:17 AM
Craigside ? Same chain, but a bit nearer.
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Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 12:00:54 PM
What about The Orme Complex if it's daytime?     :D
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Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
Do they sell good Yorkshires?
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Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 01:26:38 PM
I'm the wrong person to ask, hate that northern excuse for a pudding.   L0L   Only ever had a snack up the Orme but that was OK.    ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
By Gum--you must be flush !
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Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 04:21:48 PM
Not flush.  Wasn't me who paid the bill, and it was some time ago.    :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 09:44:57 PM
The Fat Cat Cafe Bar will be reopening at 5pm tomorrow.
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Post by: Fester on April 14, 2011, 09:47:06 PM
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The Fat Cat Cafe Bar will be reopening at 5pm tomorrow.

Excellent !   I shall see you there at 5.01pm   ZXZ
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Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2011, 03:55:05 PM
I tried the Poolside Bar Restaurant at the Empire last night and it was really good.   A delicious 3 course meal including coffee and a large glass of wine for £16.05        $good$
It won't be long before I go back there again.      
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Post by: Fester on April 17, 2011, 10:18:12 PM
Hugo,
I must agree with you, The Empire Poolside represents the very best in value for such good quality food.

Each time we are visited by family, they are disappointed if we don't book at least one evening for them at the Poolside.
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Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 08:14:20 PM
The Gresham Pub on Upper Mostyn Street will have new owners at the end of this week; I believe Club 147 are taking it over.  ££$

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Post by: Fester on April 26, 2011, 09:36:39 PM
That information was Copyrighted !  :P
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Post by: Trojan on April 27, 2011, 03:08:20 AM
Club 147? Come on.......give me a break.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
  :) I have been to La Taverna now about 7 times and must admit it has been first class everytime. D)
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Post by: Trojan on April 28, 2011, 05:38:28 AM
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 :) I have been to La Taverna now about 7 times and must admit it has been first class everytime. D)

Certainly looks authentic:

http://www.latavernarestaurant.co.uk/ (http://www.latavernarestaurant.co.uk/)

We are located in a Llandundo by a promenade and pier.
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 08:25:02 AM
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We are located in a Llandundo by a promenade and pier.
That certainly narrows it down a bit...  :P
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Post by: Fester on April 28, 2011, 10:24:46 AM
Yeah, but if you say it in an Italian accent ...   it works!

Wassa matter you?  Gotta no respect?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 03, 2011, 06:10:45 PM
After a pleasant walk to Cadair Ifan Goch we stopped at Plas Maenan for an afternoon coffee. We sat on the glass covered verandah in very relaxing surroundings and looked at the breathtaking views of the Carneddau range across the valley.
A delightful tasting coffee,enough for 2 cups each and with cream and a shortbread biscuit was well worth the £4.50.   We were there over an hour and the ambience made you feel like you could stay there for a lot longer but we had to leave ( shops closing soon! )
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2011, 07:47:46 PM
  $cool$
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Post by: CurlyCap on May 05, 2011, 07:06:25 PM
Brilliant photos Hugo, they look like they could have been taken in the Caribean with the gorgeous blue sky !

Quick change of subject (but still on pubs, etc.....) as we had friends over for the busy weekend, we ventured into Llandudno for a rare night out. I hadn't had much response to an earlier post on places where we could take the children (and still feel comfortable), so we managed to grab babysitters for the evening and hit the town! (Good enough excuse to leave the monkeys at home !)

It was great working our way down Upper Mostyn Street, visiting the Fat Cat, Fountains, etc, etc...(all the places I'd heard discussed on here) However, I was really disappointed to find that there were very few places that we could get a good meal late on. At around 9.30pm, we tried a few restaurants but were told that they'd finished serving (although there were clearly loads of free tables). Is this the norm or could it have been that they'd been exceptionally busy and were happy to finish earlier?

We did end up having a gorgeous Indian Meal but I'd be interested to know of any other nice eateries that stay open late for the disorganised that don't book !  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
I know Fat Cat usually serve food until about 10?
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Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 08:52:49 PM
Hiya CC, 
Did you decide not to bother with The Lilly?  Where I think the kids would have been more than welcome... but a little bored if they were forced to be inside.

You are right about the watershed for eating in Llandudno.
I constantly get thwarted when deciding after 8.30 to go for a meal.
The Seahorse and other good restaurants usually make 8.30pm the last booking time.  (But you do get a long, leisurely meal that way)
The Empire can be booked right up to 9pm, but no later.
Valentino's, I have seen people arriving for meals even up until 10pm ish.
The Asia, you can still get a table in there up until 10.30-ish.

The Fat Cat are more of an up market pub menu, as Dave says you can eat up to 10pm ish,  and when it's on form its very good... last night though, sadly it was not.


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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 09:04:02 PM
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Hiya CC,  The Fat Cat are more of an up market pub menu, as Dave says you can eat up to 10pm ish,  and when it's on form its very good... last night though, sadly it was not.
Looks as though I made a good decision to have my lunch rather than dinner there, then!  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
I am led to understand that they are having problems with one particular chef at the moment... it needs sorting.

But, 95% of the time, the food is most excellent (as you well know)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: CurlyCap on May 05, 2011, 09:34:30 PM
Yes, Fester, we did get to the Lilly in the afternoon, where Mr. CC had the best hot and spicy burger he'd ever tasted, (although he was starving when we eventually arrived at West Shore, as we'd been climbing the Orme all day and he'd have eaten a scabby dog at that point.)

The children enjoyed playing on the swings opposite and we sat outside in the sunshine with one eye on them and one hand on our drinks as the wind was unbelievable!

The food was very good though so cheers for the recommendation !  ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 09:37:43 PM
For once in my life....FEST KNOWS BEST !   ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 09:55:50 PM
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For once in my life....FEST KNOWS BEST !   ZXZ
How true.....  :twoface:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 05, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
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I am led to understand that they are having problems with one particular chef at the moment... it needs sorting.

But, 95% of the time, the food is most excellent (as you well know)

Mrs R went to Fat Cat tonight and thoroughly enjoyed her evening.

She very much enjoyed the set £11.95 menu with a cocktail and said the portions were enormous.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 09, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
 :) The Alexandra pub is reopening but not as a pub,someone is going to run it as a hotel and restaurant,so good luck to them and i hope they make a success of it. ;)
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Post by: Pendragon on May 09, 2011, 08:16:31 PM
I was under the impression that without a new fire escape the majority of the rooms can't be used.  They must be investing quite a hefty sum, I hope it does well too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on May 10, 2011, 12:28:42 AM
Where are all the local 'characters' going to drink now? Where's Martin Leary going to host his Karaoke?

RIP Alexandra.  :'(
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Post by: Fester on May 10, 2011, 08:37:27 AM
Thats the guy who has his ''show'' in The Carlton these days....?
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Post by: Trojan on May 10, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
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Thats the guy who has his ''show'' in The Carlton these days....?

Not sure Fester, I have not been in there in ages. He normally has a suntan and wears sleeveless T-shirts.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2011, 10:24:56 PM
I understand that one of Conwy's most best known restaurants, the Clemence, is up for sale.

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Post by: Pendragon on May 10, 2011, 11:34:23 PM
I have to be honest they do the best cooked breakfast in Conwy.  It's falling to bits inside though.  Many a time we've been in and there has been buckets on tables due to burst pipes.  The decoration is really poor with peeling wallpaper and tired and tatty furnishings.  Although I'm not put off going in there I can see why others would be. The Clemence is to restaurants what the prawn cocktail, sirloin steak and black forest is to fine dining, stuck quite firmly in the 1980s. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 11, 2011, 12:06:12 AM
Yes... I once got sucked in to The Clemence by a sign saying 3 Courses for £4.99

I left an hour or so later thinking,  yep, I got about £4.99's worth..... reminiscent of school dinners.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 07:20:25 AM
I agree, I've never been in. Great location, though.
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Post by: Pendragon on May 11, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
How much is it up for Dave?  Your right it is a great location.
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Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 10:37:36 AM
It's £70k for the goodwill/fittings of the business and then £25k a year rent. Good opportunity for someone.
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Post by: Pendragon on May 11, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
That's pretty good.  It's quite large inside I would guess on probably 100 covers? 
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Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 11:22:34 AM
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That's pretty good.  It's quite large inside I would guess on probably 100 covers? 
Restaurant area is 72' x 30', so pretty large.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
Dominos Pizza are intending to open a branch in Llandudno and are actively looking for premises.
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Post by: born2run on May 11, 2011, 04:19:37 PM
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Dominos Pizza are intending to open a branch in Llandudno and are actively looking for premises.

Grrrrrrr8 News. Though not for the belly!!! Will have to hit the gym twice as hard when that happens
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
 WWW Well there are plenty of premises too choose from. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 12, 2011, 12:55:19 AM
I don't care where it is... because they deliver!

The Domino's New York BBQ Steak pizza will be coming to my house !! $dins$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on May 21, 2011, 03:15:10 AM
The Alex on Clonmel St. was open tonight as a Restaurant/Hotel. I didn't see anyone in there but good luck to them. I'm sure I'll give it a try soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 21, 2011, 09:16:56 AM
 :) Yes Paddy its good luck too the Alex;s it was a good venue when a Mr Bradlry had it many years ago.Unfortunatly i think its the first of a few pubs we are going too lose,i really have no idea how its taken this long to lose our first pub,there is no way they can keep going with the amount of people who have turned their back on Pubs.I have been in a pub on a saturday nite with a band playing ,door men and a handfull of punters,i have no idea how they make it pay besides doing food during the day. :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 21, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
I've just been to the Glass Lounge in Colwyn Bay for coffee and cake. It's in the old Speakers Corner building at the top of Penrhyn Road. Fortunately, they seem to have lost the somewhat half hearted approach to serving customers that Speakers Corner always used to have and are now much improved. It's all being decorated, new furniture, new menu. Food and drink are great and reasonably priced. Well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on May 22, 2011, 03:56:56 AM
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:) Yes Paddy its good luck too the Alex;s it was a good venue when a Mr Bradlry had it many years ago.Unfortunatly i think its the first of a few pubs we are going too lose,i really have no idea how its taken this long to lose our first pub,there is no way they can keep going with the amount of people who have turned their back on Pubs.I have been in a pub on a saturday nite with a band playing ,door men and a handfull of punters,i have no idea how they make it pay besides doing food during the day. :-X

I remember Mr Bradley from the golf club but he'd left the Alex before I began my drinking career. He's a very nice man and we shared many a pint in the "golfie".

I think the reason pubs struggle these days is the prices they are "forced" to charge. You can pay £5 for a large vodka in a pub or you can buy the bottle (14 large ones) for less than £9 in Asda. It's a "no brainer" for the punters. Share a bottle at home and go out later.

Having said that, it's interesting that the pubs that do seem to do well are not necessarily the cheapest so maybe price is not the only consideration.

Over to you guys!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 08:56:59 AM
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Having said that, it's interesting that the pubs that do seem to do well are not necessarily the cheapest so maybe price is not the only consideration.
Some good points, Paddy. Key phrase is 'seem to do well' - appearances can be deceptive!  It would be unfair to name any business but I know one seemingly busy bar in Llandudno that is struggling and one never busy bar that seems to cling on.

Who's going to do the Taste Test in the Alex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
 ;) I nominate Yorkie ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 24, 2011, 04:32:02 PM
 ;) Heard rumours again about Wethers becoming a Yates and something happening in Fountains,any news. 8)
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Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 05:34:16 PM
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;) Heard rumours again about Wethers becoming a Yates and something happening in Fountains,any news. 8)
Wetherspoons is a different chain to Yates, there is no way they would sell such a busy pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 24, 2011, 05:49:11 PM
There has been talk of the Carlton changing over to Yates.  How true it is I don't know?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:07:28 PM
The Carlton is owned by Mitchells & Butlers Leisure Retail Limited, how willing they would be to sell to Yates, I don't know? The Carlton always reminds me of the pub in Newcastle that Michael Caine walked into in Get Carter... Great location but I don't think they're making the most of it, by any means.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
The owners of Aberhod Old Hall Restaurant in Rhos On Sea are seeking Planning permission to convert into into 4 apartments and build 2 new houses in the grounds:

Aberhod Old Hall Cayley Promenade Rhos On Sea Colwyn Bay Conwy LL28 4EP
Proposal: "Proposed demolition of extensions to existing building and conversion and extension of
existing building into 4 no. dwellings and erection of 2 no. dwellings, improvements to
access and associated works"

I'm not too thrilled about this, Aberhod is one of the oldest buildings in Rhos and this sounds like over development to me, not to mention the loss of a business.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3225360204_59a3d03c85_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3225360204/)
Aberhod (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3225360204/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 25, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
I agree. Of course it is public knowledge that the catering side had a nasty jolt after the public health inspectors called. News like that can see off years of having a good reputation.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 12:53:42 PM
Indeed. I've always thought it would make a great food orientated pub, in the same vein as the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 30, 2011, 08:28:30 AM
 ;) The new take-away in Upper Mostyn St is about to open,Kings House i think its called. Looking at the signage it looks cheap and nasty hope im wrong but at least its one less empty shop. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
The Parade Pub on Church Walks has finally shut down. Mick is concentrating on Cooneys and a pub in Rhyl.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
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;) The new take-away in Upper Mostyn St is about to open,Kings House i think its called. Looking at the signage it looks cheap and nasty hope im wrong but at least its one less empty shop. ££$
It's a big disappointment, especially in a Conservation Area - very garish:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on May 30, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
Anyone know what happened to young Rob Skelley. His parents Bob and Eunice were good friends of my Father and I got to know him in his own right. I last saw him a few years back when he was cheffing in the Kings Head. He was talking about setting up an eatery in mid Shrophire at the time. Did he anyone?  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Is it his Dad who has the Rhos Fynach in Rhos On Sea?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on May 30, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
Bob Skelley died several years ago, it's the anniversary of his death tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on May 31, 2011, 01:23:02 AM
Hi Micox Rob Skelly has the Rhos Fynach in Rhos on Sea  and  is doing well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 31, 2011, 01:43:00 AM
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The Parade Pub on Church Walks has finally shut down. Mick is concentrating on Cooneys and a pub in Rhyl.

That's a shame, the parade is a lot better than Cooneys. Although that Street needs an alternative to the usual haunts around there.
Anyone know the name of the pub he has in Rhyl?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 02:13:17 PM
It's the Sun, I believe.

Escape (the old Lyons Sports shop next to Hoosons Corner) in Upper Mostyn Street is now available to let at £21k per year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on May 31, 2011, 04:04:10 PM
Thanks Sir John.

If you see him wish him well from me. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2011, 11:46:12 PM
Take a peek at this article... it tells you ALL you need to know about Britain today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
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Take a peek at this article... it tells you ALL you need to know about Britain today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315)
You're not wrong.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
I noticed that Topolinos in Upper Mostyn Street have applied for Planning Permission to operate as a Takeaway. Odd really, because according to their website, they already offer a Takeaway service there:

http://topolinospizza.co.uk/ (http://topolinospizza.co.uk/)

"Topolino Town Restaurant & Takeaway, 155 Upper Mostyn Street, Tel: 01492 868333"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
Visited Cafe 101 this afternoon to partake of some hot liquid refreshment.  The first thing the new owners seem to have chosen to do after re-arranging the tables is hike up the prices.   Looks like our usual two visits each week will rapidly immediately reduce to zero.  Shame really that the exuberant presence of Pedro has gone.   I wonder what all the other "regulars" will think?    $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 06:02:32 PM
I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 06:22:09 PM
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;) I nominate Yorkie ZXZ

Thaks for that Wrex - I have the Bill for you!    ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 06:43:52 PM
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I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.

I don't recall ever seeing you there - maybe you should have spoken!     ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 02, 2011, 11:04:36 PM
 ;) Put it on council expenses. WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2011, 08:11:35 AM
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I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.

I don't recall ever seeing you there
;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 03, 2011, 08:29:48 AM
Unless of course you were that tall gentleman (sic) who was sitting on his own at the table next to the wall.  Dressed in a dark suit if I remember and who left in a dark (black?) Mercedes B Class or similar!  Yes it was some time ago!     :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
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Unless of course you were that tall gentleman (sic) who was sitting on his own at the table next to the wall.  Dressed in a dark suit if I remember and who left in a dark (black?) Mercedes B Class or similar!  Yes it was some time ago!     :D
I'm afraid not. I was with a lady friend and we arrived/left on foot.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
 ;) Just had a coffee in Indulgence next to the Alex,very nice too.On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub which is not in his agreement,apparently he used to run the Bee in Abergele. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 06:56:12 PM
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On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub
I had also noticed this. Lots of people sitting outside with pints but no food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 07:19:40 PM
 :(For the Alex to survive you need to gut the hotel and your food needs to be excellent,why do people think it will be easy pickings to just open and let sub standard rooms and food and people will come flocking,thereis too much competion for this place to survive as a hotel and restaurant without doing the place up and serving quality food at a sensible price,hence the landlord already seems to have broken the rules and is just serving drinks to some people. :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Poundstretcher signs have gone up on the old Alworths shop. Didn't you say they were moving there Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on June 07, 2011, 05:01:19 PM
So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
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So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.
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Post by: Trojan on June 07, 2011, 06:51:23 PM
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So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.

I was wondering that myself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on June 07, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
The signs have been put up on the new William Glover gift shop which is opening opposite their cuurent shop in the old Wonderllandudno shop
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
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The signs have been put up on the new William Glover gift shop which is opening opposite their cuurent shop in the old Wonderllandudno shop
Their furniture shop is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 08:55:04 PM
 :(Nobody listens to me :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
We do, Wrex!  ;D  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
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:(Nobody listens to me :'(

Sorry - didyou say something?    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 09:34:22 PM
 :D Yorkie,i said the town council does a excellent job for the town,they listen to all our complaints and suggestions and then act on them just why we voted for them to do for us.Now pick yourself up off the floor and ring one of them just to see if they have got a clue what is going on in town and see why exactly they are sitting on the council. WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2011, 07:55:05 AM
Hi Wrex - Just for the record I am in virtual constant contact with the Council.  It has just taken over 2 months to get some information from them under the FOI Act.    I also have an ongoing problem which I hope the Ombudsman will be able to solve.   As an ex Councillor I am fully aware of what goes on behind the solid closed doors of the Council Chamber.  Even Judith has stopped reporting on their antics!    L0L

I think the booze bill for the Mayor's Parlour has gone up significantly since our my day!      ZXZ   ZXZ   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 07:55:45 PM
The old Alworths/Woolworths store with its new Poundstretcher signage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
The old Wonderllandudno shop at No.1 Mostyn Street has now got its WG & Co. sign up. As already mentioned, it is an offshoot of the William Glover shop on Vaughan Street:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2011, 09:02:35 PM
I'm told that Home Cooking have not bought Cafe 101 but it is the original owners returning?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 09, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
I understood that it was Paul Blanchard and that came from the horses mouth (Pedro)!   Who cares anyway?   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 10, 2011, 10:56:53 AM
In the past I have found it a pleasure to praise the quality of goods sold by ALDI but recently I have found their "fresh" vegetables more like what one would expect to be tossed out and given to the Zoo.
Cabbage tops on display with numerous yellow leaves, courgettes already showing decay, "Jersey" potatoes with scab, cucumbers going bad at the tips, yellowing cauliflowers and other such awful stuff.   I am very surprised as the Germans (in Germany), have always impressed me with their attitude towards food quality.    I'll have to stick to the tinned and packaged stuff in future.     :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2011, 11:02:36 AM
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So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.

I was wondering that myself.

My OH was told this morning by someone who works there that both are to remain open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 10, 2011, 01:10:17 PM
Following on from the discussions about the state of the shopping in Llandudno, here are my own views.These are purely personal comments on what I like to shop for when I am on holiday or a day out somewhere but what I think is lacking in this area.
When I am away I like to look for things which have been made locally and which remind you how you have enjoyed a place.
This also means that if I find something I like I will want to go back to that shop and the place to look for something else another time.
I would like to see a shop in LLandudno that sold locally made goods including paintings, photographs, cards, ceramics, textiles, jewelry etc.
It would also be good to be able to buy locally made food stuffs in the same place.

What about a cooperative department style shop that could incorporate all things local and that could be manned in turn by each of the producers?
There is a cooperative shop in Conwy that sells items from various  potters but I think that is exclusively pottery.
I know there is the Mostyn Gallery but to me it doesn’t seem to have individual enough goods for sale. I do not know how much they actually sell there.
A combination of new and old goods would be of interest. Somewhere for example that you could buy vintage welsh quilts along side new ones.
Vintage shops are much in vogue at the moment. I was recently in Cardiff in the Royal Arcade where there is an excellent mix of vintage and new shops. including Melin Tregwynt.
Other favourites of mine are,
Ruthin Craft Centre: This shop sells wonderful inspiring things but there are not many everyday purchases to be had there. They  sell special things you need to save up for.
White Lion Street Gallery Tenby : where they only sell cards made by the artists that they feature in the shop.
Oriel -Y - Felin St. Davids:
Roundhouse Gallery: Sennen Cove

These are all places that I have bought things and that I look forward to going back to.

There are always small interesting shops in small seaside villages but as soon as you get to a bigger town the shops become less interesting and the goods more mass produced and also produced abroad.
I presume, but I do not know, that this is due to higher rents.

Llandudno  has lots of shops that sell cheap mass produced things. What about some more expensive but more worthwhile locally made goods for sale?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2011, 01:38:38 PM
I agree with you on those points Hollins, If away anywhere I tend to make a bee-line for 'different' shops to buy presents to put away for Christmas etc for family and friends. eg if we ever go to Moelfre there is a super gift shop there which sells unusual bits and pieces. Same in Ludlow where we have just been for a day or two. There there are some lovely little shops which sell quality goods, an excellent cheese shop and the plant stalls on the market are fantastic. We always have a cake from the old fashioned cake shop there and thouroughly enjoy the hustle and bustle of locals and tourists alike.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 10, 2011, 02:21:14 PM
I agree about the vintage shops Hollins, there is lovely one in Rhewl just outside Ruthin called Homewood Bound selling refurbished furniture and kitchenalia, they also sell Cath Kidston and Emma Bridgewater goods, we were in there today, I'll need to save up to buy something from there next time I visit.

 Listers in Llandudno is a nice shop and fairly affordable. The upper Mostyn street area is the best in town for the more unusual shops, surely a good area for market stalls!

I like to hunt for bargains though, and today was delighted to find a  green Lloyd Loom bedside cabinet for a fiver in  a new secondhand shop in Denbigh called Dragon Exchange.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 10, 2011, 02:38:12 PM
Thanks for those recommendations. I shall be giving them a try!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:34:22 PM
But don't go to these.  Each one was rated as "Major improvement necessary " in their food preparation and hygiene and gained only a (1) out of a possible (5) in their inspections... Source: Conwy food ratings guide (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/AdvancedSearch.aspx?s=1&so=Equal&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d&st=1&las=550)

Abbeyfield
Abbeyfield 57 Lloyd Street Llandudno
LL30 2YP
   

Abergele Kebab and Pizza
41 Market Street Abergele
LL22 7AF


Barnacles Restaurant
Barnacles Chip Shop 7 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2NL


Bella Vista
The Bella Vista Hotel 83 Church Walks Llandudno
LL30 2HD
   
   

Buffet Coach Cafe
Conway Valley Railway Museum Ffordd Hen Eglwys Betws Y Coed
LL24 0AL
   
   

Cafe Culture
Cafe Culture 79 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2NN
   
   

Cafe Orient Express
Cafe Orient Express 8 Gloddaeth Street Llandudno
LL30 2DS
   

Charcoal Grill
Charcole Grill 425 Abergele Road Old Colwyn Colwyn Bay
LL29 9PR
   

Cod Almighty
15 Ffordd Las Llandudno
LL30 1ER
   

Cooneys
137 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2PB
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
The following places gained a (2); Improvement necessary

Ambassador Hotel
Ambassador Hotel St. Georges Place Llandudno
LL30 2NR

Cafe-T-Air

Cafe T Air 135 Station Road Deganwy Conwy
LL31 9EJ

Chatsworth House Hotel

Chatsworth House Hotel Gloddaeth Crescent Llandudno
LL30 2XS
 
Empire Hotel
Empire Hotel 73 Church Walks Llandudno
LL30 2HE
 
J Williams Butchers
Mona Buildings Station Road Llanfairfechan
LL33 0AP
 
Molly's Cafe
Molly's Cafe 18B Augusta Street Llandudno
LL30 2AD
 
Morfa Stores
MorfaStores 25 Penmaen Road Conwy
LL32 8HA
 
No 1's Bistro
No 1's Bistro 1 Old Road Llandudno
LL30 2HA

Rendezvous Cafe

71 Abergele Road Colwyn Bay
LL29 7RU
 
Swan Inn
Swan Inn Swan Square Llanfairtalhaiarn Abergele

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
"The food safety officer inspecting a business checks how well the business is meeting the law by looking at:

    * how hygienically the food is handled – how it is prepared, cooked, re-heated, cooled and stored
    * the condition of the structure of the buildings – the cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities
    * how the business manages and records what it does to make sure food is safe

At the end of the inspection, the business is given one of the six ratings. The top rating of ‘5’ means that the business was found to have ‘very good’ hygiene standards. Any business should be able to reach this top rating.

The food safety officer will explain to the person who owns or manages the business what improvements are needed and how they can achieve the top rating of '5'. The local authority will check that these improvements are made.

The Food Hygiene Rating Scheme has been designed to make sure that the ratings given to businesses are fair."

What's important to realise is that a food preparation business with excellent hygiene and food hanlding practices can still fall foul of the second requirement: "the condition of the structure of the buildings – the cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities"
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Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
The following places received the top marking:

Amorn Thai
6 Denbigh Street Llanrwst
LL26 0LL
   

Bistro Betws y Coed

Bistro Betws y Coed Betws y Coed
LL24 0AY
      

Blas Ar Fwyd
25 Station Road Llanrwst
LL26 0EP
   
   
Can-y-Bae
10 Mostyn Crescent Llandudno
LL30 1AR
      

Castle Tea Gardens
27 Castle Street Conwy
LL32 8AY
   
Cleave Court
1 St. Seiriols Road Llandudno

Depressingly few commercial establishments in Llandudno.
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Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
For the worst score - (0) out of (5):

Gannets
Gannets Treforris Road Dwygyfylchi Penmaenmawr
LL34 6UB
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
   
Kinmel Manor Hotel Ltd
Kinmel Manor Hotel St. George Road Abergele
LL22 9AS
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on June 10, 2011, 06:00:24 PM
 ZXZ Close Mostyn Street between Lloyd St and Gloddaeth Ave once a fortnight and have a street market.  $walesflag$ 
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Post by: suepp on June 10, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
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ZXZ Close Mostyn Street between Lloyd St and Gloddaeth Ave once a fortnight and have a street market.  $walesflag$ 
I agree
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Post by: Fester on June 10, 2011, 09:53:01 PM
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Thanks for those recommendations. I shall be giving them a try!

I fear that Hollins, Nemesis and Suepp are in a minority.
Yes, everyone likes to SEE those types of shops, and browse in them.... but few BUY anything.
It is depressingly obvious that tat sells, (that and ice-cream ...and beer)

There are (or have been) quite a number of 'quality' or 'niche' shops in Llandudno over the past few years, but few could survive.
The Little Deli on Upper Mostyn St is a very nice business, but is up for sale. Why?
The Manor Fine foods shop, winds awards for its range and display ... but is deathly quiet when you peer in.

Just sit on a bench in town, or on the pier, and you will notice that every 2nd person is carrying a white/green carrier bag (from Poundland) or a white/red one (from Bargain Centre)

I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality... please don't think that... but I look on with envious eyes most days at the other 'more popular' kiosks on the Pier.   Fair play to them, if I had the opportunity I know which ones I would rather have on many days of the season.

A comment I hear regularly ...'' Oh, there are some nice bits in here... its like that shop we used to see in such-a-place, you know, the one that closed down''   

I am as guilty as anyone.. I love the little shops in Beaumaris and Conwy.  Can't ever remember buying much in them though.
I never leave Poundland empty handed though.



 
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Post by: born2run on June 10, 2011, 10:01:25 PM
A shop I haven't seen get a mention in here... The Games Cabin in Madoc Street.. It's has a complete overhaul, and doesn't really even sell games anymore. It's sort of become a bohemian junk shop. But if it's classic vinyl albums your after there isn't anywhere better locally. I bought two Springsteen LPs I didn't have in my collection for about 3 or 4 pound each. The fact they weren't already in my collection is an indication they're pretty hard to get hold of... Well the same records sell on E bay for 20 to 30 pounds... There's some great clothes, guitars, really all sorts in there as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2011, 10:14:07 PM
Going back to the Food Hygiene Rankings...I don't know if I like the way they go about them. I think businesses who are inspected and receive a poor rating should be given the opportunity to make the necessary improvements and then reinspected before a final rating is given. Are we to assume that even a rating of 0 or 1 means that the standard of hygiene is still acceptable enough for the business to remain open?  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2011, 08:27:34 AM
I think that's one of the great unknowns, Dave. Item (2) on their list is so vague and lacking in detailed criteria that, without access to their actual inspection report, you cannot know if it's actually a hygiene issue as such or a building issue. It could be something as simple as a wall not being tiled the way the inspectors prefer it to be.

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I think businesses who are inspected and receive a poor rating should be given the opportunity to make the necessary improvements and then reinspected before a final rating is given.

Well, they will have had a previous inspection designed for precisely that purpose and which didn't receive a public rating, so they will have been warned.  I'm not certain what the policy is with regard to new businesses, however.

In fact, fire safety inspections are a bit like that.  I've been involved (on the receiving end) of a fair few of those, and it seems that a lot of the points they make vary according to the person doing the inspection.  I appreciate no two places are identical, but surely it's only fair to make the criteria for the building aspects as clearly defined as it is for the actual food storage issues.
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Post by: Ian on June 11, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
On your last point, I think that if actual food hygiene practises are found to be seriously deficient, they can close the establishment down there and then.  And, with the various scares in the media, they are very cautious about that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2011, 08:40:45 AM
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I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality
Apart from the excellent photographs of Llandudno, of course, available from www.llandudno-emporium.com (http://www.llandudno-emporium.com)  $angry$

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I never leave Poundland empty handed though.

...or KFC.  :laugh:
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Post by: Fester on June 11, 2011, 09:23:21 AM
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I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality
Apart from the excellent photographs of Llandudno, of course, available from www.llandudno-emporium.com (http://www.llandudno-emporium.com)  $angry$

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I never leave Poundland empty handed though.

...or KFC.  :laugh:

Ha ha... correct... thats one high class purveyor of food that I regularly patronise!   L0L L0L
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 11, 2011, 11:37:43 AM
Have you been to Celtica in Caernarfon?  I wish they would open one here - all the Welsh craf stuff and a cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2011, 07:33:50 PM
The new WG & Co gift shop at 1 Mostyn Street will be opening on Friday.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 15, 2011, 02:11:11 PM
I see Stead and Simpson have shut for their long advertised refit !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 16, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
It looks like the Childrenswear shop on St Georges place has closed down. 
The one between the already closed 'Sweet Shop' ... and the 'on borrowed time' Petticoat Lane fancy goods shop.

There is very little left open on that stretch now!   St Georges Plaice Chippie being the exception.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
It was called 'Urchin', I think. Amazing how St Georges Place is a dead spot for shops, when Mostyn Street is less than 50 feet away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 16, 2011, 10:11:29 AM
where in Llandudno could I buy a bucket and spade  or  beach chairs/windbreaks and general holiday and beach stuff?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 10:13:39 AM
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where in Llandudno could I buy a bucket and spade  or  beach chairs/windbreaks and general holiday and beach stuff?
The Toys & Jokes kiosk on the pier has a very good range of buckets and spades etc. Also the Newsagent across the road from the Empire has a few bits and pieces.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 16, 2011, 10:51:27 AM
thanks, just bought a camper van again and want to kit it out for the beach with chairs tables etc!  "Proper" camping shops charge too much,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
Oscar Jnr is saying that Tesco have snatched the former Woolworths store in Llandudno away from Poundstretcher.

""Oscar reliably informed that Tesco have knocked Poundstretcher out of the water in snatching the old Woolworth in Llandudno from their mouths.

Fax came in earlier asking about loading restrictions etc and access for Mostyn St and back Mostyn Street from Tesco""
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 17, 2011, 06:25:20 PM
 ;D If that is true Dave,it is only because Asda have Netto next to them in the Junction,but hey who cares its jobs. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
Apparently the Poundstretchers signs (that were only installed last week) were removed from the shop today.
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Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:32:59 PM
VERY... *&(

If it is a Tesco Express , they open late, and they will clean up in that area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
The W G & Co gift shop opened at 1 Mostyn Street today. Good stuff but pricey.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:40:13 PM
Hollins!!!!

You need to hurry down there.... right up your street, and it might not last long!  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
It mainly seems to be generic gifts and housewares, rather than anything Llandudno related.
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Post by: hollins on June 17, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
Too late anyway as I have already spent this weeks allowance on a plastic clock in the shape of a gold elephant with butterflies for the hands!

 :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on June 17, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
I agree, Mike, it was a great, memorable name. Maybe it will get reused by someone.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:47:50 PM
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Too late anyway as I have already spent this weeks allowance on a plastic clock in the shape of a gold elephant with butterflies for the hands!

 :'(

ha ha ....  L0L L0L _))* _))*

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 09:01:36 PM
It looked a little bit like this one but 10 times tackier:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 07:45:44 AM
 :P Well i suppose today should be the Tesco debate,will it be good for Llandudno or not,oh yes i do have a view. This is just what the bottom [or top] end of town was looking for,someone to pull the punters to the bottom end and with the Clarence looking as if it may have been bought things may be on the up.Iread one comment,goodbye M +S ,why a Tesco express would affect them is beyond me ,also goodbye to the off-license,hello we ain;t got any,so its over to you. ZXZ



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 08:18:29 AM
 One thing i forgot,at least the top half of the building will be painted with Tesco. D) ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 08:59:06 AM
It certainly needs a paint! The good thing about Tesco is they will at least spend a decent sum of money on renovating the premises with a new shopfront and maybe even reglaze the canopy outside so it doesn't look so dark. I suspect the main business to be affected by their presence will be the Costcutter on Upper Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 18, 2011, 11:24:43 AM
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I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
There's always "Craftland-udno"  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 18, 2011, 11:41:34 AM
It's good news as it might lead to re-vitalising that area.  the bad news is that tesco Express are expensive. It will be cheaper to go to the Junction.   :-[
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 18, 2011, 11:52:29 AM
my daughter reckoned there were 9 "Tesco's"  available to her on the walk back to her student accommodation near Moorfields Station from her Lecture halls near the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 18, 2011, 03:51:57 PM
Walked past Craft Llandudno this pm and couldn't see the place for bedding plants !!

The knitting shop on the corner of Lloyd St and Madoc St has closed and so has the Craft Shop at the rear of Boots.
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Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 05:16:37 PM
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I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
In the old, old days, shops were usually named after the building they were in, so Stafford House, Manchester House etc.
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Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 05:34:01 PM
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Apparently the Poundstretchers signs (that were only installed last week) were removed from the shop today.
Now you see them, now you don't...
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2011, 12:37:02 AM
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Walked past Craft Llandudno this pm and couldn't see the place for bedding plants !!

The knitting shop on the corner of Lloyd St and Madoc St has closed and so has the Craft Shop at the rear of Boots.

I didn't fancy the chances of that knittling wool shop lasting long, and sadly (and I mean sadly) I was right.

I was tipped off by ''he who knows all things'' to poosibly re-locate my shop to the Craft Shop behind Boots.
It is a nice shop, and the rent is cheap ... but the footfall is depressingly low.

So my search goes on...

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 20, 2011, 11:18:20 AM
The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 20, 2011, 05:55:55 PM
Think it is a Management Buy Out
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 21, 2011, 02:42:34 PM
Sorry I meant MBO maybe something bankruptcy order?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2011, 06:52:34 PM
Mrs Fester was in the post office yesterday and overheard a lady sending a recorded delivery letter to her boss in the craft shop to add to the long list of creditors, she hadn't been paid for a week and a half !!!
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Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 05:54:57 PM
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On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub
I had also noticed this. Lots of people sitting outside with pints but no food.
When I went past today, there was a notorious Llandudno alcoholic boozing outside. The one with the black leather jacket...  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 22, 2011, 05:57:15 PM
Nice ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
 ;) Went to La Taverna again last week and loved it. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
 Z** Has the brewery put a Manager in the Parade since Mick left. ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
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Z** Has the brewery put a Manager in the Parade since Mick left. ZXZ
Looks empty to me. There's an old metal plant pot outside that is overflowing with rubbish, looks awful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
 :) Has Mrs Fester found a shop yet,Mr Fester. ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 26, 2011, 11:28:23 PM
Wrex, the search continues... for Mrs F, for me... and for Dave R.

The right places (or places) at the right time... in the right area... at the RIGHT PRICE !

These are the keys to success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on June 27, 2011, 01:43:00 AM
I think you will pull it off sooner or later.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 27, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
A retailer called Jane Norman has gone into administration, I understand they have a unit within Debenhams at Parc Llandudno?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on June 27, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
Heard that Comet was also closing.  Anyone know what will be going there in its place?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Thorntons in the Victoria Centre will be closing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
Publishers Book Clearance have started an End of Lease sale. Does this mean that someone else has taken a proper lease on that shop? 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 12:44:53 AM
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Thorntons in the Victoria Centre will be closing.

Thorntons, Comet, Jane Norman ... Also TJ Hughes a big name elsewhere in the UK.
It feels like a row of dominoes is falling.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 06:41:16 AM
interestingly, most of these shops I've never set foot in, now it seem that I was not the only one!  without a doubt the high street and possibly retail parks will never be the same again. For many years I have hunted the best prices, bargains on the internet etc,car boot sales (the best form of recycling!) now everyone is doing it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 09:39:34 AM
Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 29, 2011, 09:49:32 AM
Have to admit, we rarely pass a Thorntons without popping in!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 10:17:48 AM
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Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...

Never set foot in one in my life, I always thought it was vastly overpriced, I'm happy with Cadburys and I like the Asda dark chocolate bars at £1 each!   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 29, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 29, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
Thorntons will "only" be closing those 120 shops which are "underperforming so will ours go?

I'll wait until Books etc. do their carrier bag full of books for £5 offer.  Got some good ones when they left Woolies.  Bet they move to AN Other empty shop in the town.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 12:26:44 PM
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Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !

We've never heard of Jane Norman until now, when they announced the closing down, ironic really!
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Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2011, 02:09:15 PM
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Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...

Never set foot in one in my life, I always thought it was vastly overpriced, I'm happy with Cadburys and I like the Asda dark chocolate bars at £1 each!   
Try the Aldi one !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 29, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
I agree - ALDI has absolutely fabulous chocolate (so I'm told).     L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on June 29, 2011, 05:14:46 PM
Well done to Su ex The Good Life on Upper Moystyn Street who's re-opening as a cafe / ice cream / Welsh tea room Good luck to her I'll be popping in for a 99
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 06:09:03 PM
Was that the one which was a fruit shop, then a hairdresser, then a fruit shop again?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2011, 06:24:41 PM
That's the one !
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Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 07:17:57 PM
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Was that the one which was a fruit shop, then a hairdresser, then a fruit shop again?

..and also tried unsuccessfully to become a tea rooms?  (but had no toilet faciities?)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 07:30:06 PM
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. I believe the intention was to brand itself the 'Smallest Tearooms In Great Britain', taking after the Smallest House on Conwy Quay.  :laugh:  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on June 29, 2011, 08:03:46 PM
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Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !

No wonder I could never find anything suitable there - although I am a size 8/10 I certainly do not come in the age target range of 16-25 ;D
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Post by: dogstail on June 29, 2011, 09:07:32 PM
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I agree - ALDI has absolutely fabulous chocolate (so I'm told).     L0L

I also agree

Well the little chocolate eggs they did at easter were nice anyway :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
I saw this today, what a great concept in these cash strapped times...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
Yes Dave, a clever concept.
Anything that latches on to the Poundland type marketing appeal is bound to be popular.
...also the British love Pies !!  (remember I told you about this only a week or two ago)

Mmmmm pies.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on June 30, 2011, 09:01:13 AM
Is it true that they put the holes in the tops of meat pies so that we can carry four in each hand?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 09:15:40 AM
One thing I forgot to mention yesterday was the difference in cafe prices between Llandudno and Chester. Given that Chester is far more affluent and a magnet for overseas visitors, prices were very reasonable (due to the immense amount of competition, no doubt) - usual price for a Latte was £1.99. Several places in Llandudno charge considerably more than that, with the Queen Victoria pub charging £2.75!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
Fortes at Rhos on Sea is verey reasonable for either Capuccino or Latte and if you want a really cheap one that isn't as bad as the price would indicate, try Tesco at the Junction - just £1.35!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on June 30, 2011, 05:54:34 PM
I am sure Camp coffee would be a lot cheaper :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 30, 2011, 09:11:51 PM
Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on June 30, 2011, 09:30:48 PM
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Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!

Available on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004G8YILO (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004G8YILO)
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Post by: Trojan on July 01, 2011, 01:35:56 AM
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Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!

Did you ever play Queen of Sheba at your house Stan?  :D

The advertisement reads:

Charades or Forfeits, Blind Man's Bluff or Queen of Sheba (you out to try that, at your next party!)--whatever the game may be, Camp is the Coffee your guests will appreciate afterwards.
More and more hostesses are serving Camp nowadays, because it is always such good coffee--and so easy to make, without leaving the jolly crowd for more than a moment.
At Dances, too, Camping out has quite taken the place of sitting out. There is no refreshment more really refreshing than a cup of Camp Coffee. Camp is made by experts, from coffee beans of the finest quality. You have only to add hot water and it's ready to enjoy.
Be sure to order a bottle of Camp Coffee in time for your New Year festivities.

How to play Queen of Sheba

Every guest except the veiled Queen and her attendants goes out of the room. Each then returns, to kneel with uplifted hands on the rug before the Queen, and to ask her three questions, to which she must answer Yes or No. At the third question, the man at the end gives the rug a sudden pull--and then the fun begins!  ???
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Post by: Yorkie on July 01, 2011, 08:51:52 AM
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I am sure Camp coffee would be a lot cheaper :P

Especially if one is prone to drinking one's coffee with their left hand on their hip and the little finger sticking out when holding the cup!    L0L
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Post by: suepp on July 01, 2011, 01:11:48 PM
Is there any other way? Used to get Iced Coffee in the Coffee Centre made with Camp, delicious. I still get it at the Co-op
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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 08:33:41 AM
I see that a well known local retailer, Finneys of Bangor, has gone into Administration. They've been in Bangor since 1957 and used to have a large Llandudno store up until a few years ago on the old Red Garages site next to the main Post Office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13993002 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13993002)
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 02, 2011, 11:06:35 AM
Paynes Majestic building now housing Peacocks has a sign saying for Sale by Auction on it.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2011, 04:37:16 PM
Stead & Simpson have re-opened.
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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
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Paynes Majestic building now housing Peacocks has a sign saying for Sale by Auction on it.
It's only the building that is coming up for auction, Peacocks are staying on, they pay £120,000 a year rent on those premises.
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Post by: born2run on July 03, 2011, 10:43:56 AM
The Parade still closed.. Apparently last night due to the boxing the 147 was so full they weren't letting people in.
Surely must be an opportunity for someone... In other news a pint of Heineken now goes for £3.60 in the Loaf  ???
No wonder people are staying in!
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Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 12:03:30 PM
Just think how much people like me are saving in a year, it pays for a b****y good holiday!     Z**
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Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 01:15:38 AM
Thats a contradiction in terms Yorkie,  how can you have a bl##dy good holiday without drinking lots of Heineken?

No, I'm not having it.   Z** Z** Z**
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Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2011, 05:33:06 PM
There are people working in the old Alworths building in Llandudno today, preparations for the new Tesco?
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Post by: wrex on July 04, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
 :D Tesco will not hang around now Asda is about to open naxt to them. WWW
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Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 11:52:52 PM
A quick restaurant review if I may.

Tonight I really fancied a steak, and Fat Cat had none left...so No 1's Bistro sprang to mind.
I knew that mine hosts, H and Annie would not let us down.

No 1's Bistro nestles at the bottom of Old Road, below the Tram Station, and I have visited many times before.

There are no airs and graces with H and Annie, just a superb meal and a great choice of wines to accompany it.

The menu is medium priced, (Higher than The Empire, Lower than The Seahorse)... and the choice is very wide indeed.

I'll have to keep it quick here, because I'm full and tired... but here goes.
The starters for both Mrs F and I was the Smoked Haddock, with a Welsh Rarebit topping, atop sliced tomatoes and a honey/mustard dressing. We can't resist that, though there are many other choices on the set menu.
There are many more still on the a-la carte menu.

Being the greedy-guts that I am, I ordered the Fish Chowder as an intermediate course.
Lashings of salmon, pollack, prawns and scallops in a mild cheesy broth...Yummm

My main course was the steak I was craving... a rib-eye, grilled to perfection, with a selection of about 6 different veg and potatoes.
Annie is a fabulous chef, she really is.

I was entitled to a sweet,  but I was pleasantly full (not that uncomfortable full) ... so we gave it a miss, and we finished the bottle of house white, and toddled home very happy.

£48.00 the lot .... (including the £12.00 bottle of wine) ... Thanks once again and H.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$





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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2011, 07:00:29 AM
So your hunger strike has finished then  L0L
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Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:27:34 AM
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So your hunger strike has finished then  L0L

 :laugh:
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Post by: hollins on July 05, 2011, 06:06:33 PM
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I agree about the vintage shops Hollins, there is lovely one in Rhewl just outside Ruthin called Homewood Bound selling refurbished furniture and kitchenalia, they also sell Cath Kidston and Emma Bridgewater goods, we were in there today, I'll need to save up to buy something from there next time I visit.

 Listers in Llandudno is a nice shop and fairly affordable. The upper Mostyn street area is the best in town for the more unusual shops, surely a good area for market stalls!

I like to hunt for bargains though, and today was delighted to find a  green Lloyd Loom bedside cabinet for a fiver in  a new secondhand shop in Denbigh called Dragon Exchange.

Thank you suepp for recommending Homewood Bound. I went there today and found two perfect items for my new girlie shed!
I never would have known about it without your tip so many thanks.
I really enjoyed looking around the shop. They are hoping to open a coffee shop soon. That would be good.
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Post by: suepp on July 05, 2011, 06:13:47 PM
Glad you liked it! Good news about the Coffee shop  ,we were saying when we were there that it would be the ideal place for a nice Cafe
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 06, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
The wool shop in Lloyd Street has re-opened. Yopu were right MOB must have meant management buy out.
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Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
 ;) On Jason Weymans blog he has found an article on DFS opening in Llandudno in November,so they should be on site very soon. Z**
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Post by: Jack on July 06, 2011, 05:02:46 PM
Looks like work is finally starting on the old Tourist Info Centre on Chapel Street, the windows have been papered to stop nosey people like me from seeing in  :D
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Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 05:20:12 PM
 ;) Jack you are not the only one,i will look through the letterbox[or keyhole] :laugh:
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Post by: Bellringer on July 06, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
Asda now open in the Junction.
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Post by: DaveR on July 07, 2011, 11:43:21 AM
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;) On Jason Weymans blog he has found an article on DFS opening in Llandudno in November,so they should be on site very soon. Z**
Sofa retailer DFS has agreed to open 35,000 sq ft of new stores at two retail parks owned by the Hercules Unit Trust, managed by Schroders and advised by British Land.

DFS will open a 20,000 sq ft store at Valentine Retail Park in Lincoln and a 15,000 sq ft store at Mostyn Champneys Retail Park in Llandudno, North Wales. Both shops will open in late November.

Jon Massey, chief operating officer at DFS, said: “Both retail parks trade well, serve strong catchments, and are well managed.  Consequently, they provide us with a great platform from which to grow the DFS brand in their respective regions.”

Cushman Wakefield and Morgan Williams acted for British Land in Llandudno, and Morgan Williams and Harvey Spack Field represented British Land in Lincoln.  BNP Paribas acted for DFS.

http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-sector/retail/dfs-to-open-stores-in-lincoln-and-north-wales/5020959.article#.ThIWndK_S-I.twitter (http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-sector/retail/dfs-to-open-stores-in-lincoln-and-north-wales/5020959.article#.ThIWndK_S-I.twitter)

 $good$
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 07, 2011, 11:55:20 AM
Oh not another furniture shop how much more do we need?
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Post by: dingo20 on July 08, 2011, 08:29:21 AM
I saw the review on No1 Bistro I've past it many times but have never seen it open, when does it open? Shame to miss out on all that passing tram trade. I love the food in The Cottage Loaf chips are brill, home made and massive. I also love the food in The Castle View bit more expensive than other pubs but they must have a really good chef everything on the menu is excellent and the puds I'd sell an arm for.
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Post by: DaveR on July 08, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
The Burgers in the Castle View are very good and you can sit outside with a great view over to Conwy Castle.
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Post by: Bellringer on July 08, 2011, 09:51:33 AM
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Asda now open in the Junction.

Sorry my mistake - opens on Tuesday.
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Post by: TheMedz on July 11, 2011, 09:41:34 PM
A contributor to Oscar mentions the possibility of Waitrose coming to town. Has anyone heard any whispers related to this?
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 12, 2011, 12:28:27 PM
Please, please, please.
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Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 12:36:49 PM
It would be great but I'm struggling to think of suitable vacant premises for them?
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Post by: TheMedz on July 12, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
The Northern Markets site next to the station was mentioned on Oscar.
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Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 07:28:14 PM
I believe that the recently opened Toppolinos Pizza Restaurant in Upper Mostyn Street has already changed hands and is now in the capable hands of Adriana, formerly of Momma Rosas in Craig Y Don.  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on July 13, 2011, 03:04:56 PM
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It would be great but I'm struggling to think of suitable vacant premises for them?

Mmmm that was my thought.
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Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2011, 10:55:46 AM
Dominos Pizza are still keen to open in Llandudno, I had an email from them asking for potential locations. Their requirements are:

Frontage - 15ft (5.5m) minimum
Depth - 60ft (20m) minimum
Area - 1,000 sq. ft. - 1,200 sq. ft. (93 - 112 m sq.), which can be over two floors - Minimum requirement = 800 sq. ft. on the ground floor
High visibility
Hot Food Takeaway usage (A5)  (or possibility of change of use)
Potential access to Students
Family neighbourhoods
Parking
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Post by: llandudnotrust on July 14, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
What about the old Burger King ?
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Post by: Nemesis on July 14, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?
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Post by: wrex on July 14, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
 8) Nothing would suprise us,if they ever wanted it in the first place.We can wish for the best town in the world, but as long as we are run by CCBC we have no chance. Z**
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Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2011, 08:37:04 PM
Lot of work been going on in the Parade Pub on Church Walks this week, looks like they are refurbishing it all.
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Post by: Fester on July 14, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
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Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?

If that IS the case, and Poundstretchers were gazumped (after putting up thier signage) then they deserve all they get!

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Post by: Jack on July 15, 2011, 04:26:05 PM
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The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.

The craft shop on Back Madoc Street is opening soon as a Hair/Beauty Salon.
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Post by: born2run on July 15, 2011, 08:30:23 PM
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The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.

The craft shop on Back Madoc Street is opening soon as a Hair/Beauty Salon.

Hair Salon.. Interested Fester? ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on July 16, 2011, 07:41:37 AM
Wig shop maybe!    L0L
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Post by: Fester on July 16, 2011, 08:16:50 PM
I will have you know that I spend HOURS getting my hair ready each day.... I just don't always take it out with me, thats all....!
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 18, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
Saw a notice in this weeks'NWWN re. a kebab shop at 133 Mostyn Street.  Is that Upper Mostyn Street?  They are seeking permission to remain open until 2.00 a.m.  What I want to know is what on earth is on in Llandudno to justify staying open that late?
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Post by: dwsi on July 18, 2011, 07:12:05 PM
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Saw a notice in this weeks'NWWN re. a kebab shop at 133 Mostyn Street.  Is that Upper Mostyn Street?  They are seeking permission to remain open until 2.00 a.m.  What I want to know is what on earth is on in Llandudno to justify staying open that late?

133 Mostyn Street otherwise known as Upper Mostyn Street is Zak's Kebabs. Club 147 has now got a licence until 2am, that's the reason i think that's behind it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 10:47:46 PM
All the various bars and fast food establishments in Upper Mostyn Street are currently engaged in a game of oneupmanship to try and stay open as late as possible.
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Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
When I was in Chester recently, I was surprised to see that their Fat Cat Cafe Bar was a very nondescript looking place, not the most impressive of venues and not in a great location either:
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Post by: TheMedz on July 20, 2011, 07:23:24 AM
I used to work round the corner from there and have been in a few times.  They do good food quickly and seem to get a lot of lunchtime trade especially towards the end of the working week.  It's just up from the racecourse and you can't get near the place on race days.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
An exciting meal out!
Last night the Mrs and I went to sample the Curry Night at The Mountain View in Mochdre which at £5.25 including a drink seemed like good value.  We have eaten here before and always had a good meal.
We arrived fairly early just before 6 p.m. and our drink order and food order take, both deciding to have a Jalfrezi.   We were told that it would be about 20 minutes as they had just had a large party in.  (8 people).  Apart from us there was another group of 4 already eating and a couple came in about 30 minutes after us.
We had our drinks and waited, and waited for just under an hour, at which time I decided we would leave.  Just as I went to the counter the meals came from the kitchen and I refused them.  The "manager" was somewhat upset and said that he had informed us of a wait.  I reminded him of what he actually said.  The party of 8 had been served 15 minutes previously.   I asked if he had a short order chef or just a cook - and he said that all the meals had to be microwaved and they only had three microwaves.  We left and were not charged for the drinks.

I wonder what they do when it's busy?   I withdraw previous comments on this Establishment.

We then just went into the Afon Conwy and were served within 15 minutes!  Good food and good value at 2 meals for £10.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 05:09:07 PM
you waited a lot longer than I would have done, did you receive any tips as a WAITer?  ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
I got the message never to go again!  _))*
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Post by: Bellringer on July 22, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
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We then just went into the Afon Conwy and were served within 15 minutes!  Good food and good value at 2 meals for £10.

It is very good value Yorkie but I thought that offer finished at 6pm each day.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
Ah! And you would seem to be correct.  A quick look at my bill has revealed that with drinks it was a smidgin over £17.00, so we must have paid normal price for fish & chips and scampi.  Still not bad value.   I must have been overcome by their large sign promoting the offer and forgot the time!    :D
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
The new Hambone Coffee Shop & Brasserie on Lloyd Street opened on Friday and I took the opportunity to pay it a visit this afternoon with a friend. It's all very smart inside, obviously a fair bit of money has been spent to create it. We sat in the window where space was a little bit tight, but worth it so that we could watch the world go by. Menu seemed to be focused more on snacks, sandwiches and light lunches than anything heavier, but that was fine as there was lots to choose from. Being a greedy b****r, I had one of the more expensive options - the steak sandwich with salad (£6.95), which was served on a wooden platter and was very enjoyable. I also had a Latte (£2.20) which was spot on. Certainly worth a visit!
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Post by: Trojan on July 26, 2011, 04:23:38 AM
Is there any sinage outside?  ???
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Post by: margo on July 27, 2011, 08:59:48 PM
heard today that iceland on mostyn champneys is closing in november, the staff attended a meeting before they opened yesterday and were told they are being made redundant as they can't afford the increase in rent, i am wondering if this is the same reason roseby's is closing

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Post by: norman08 on July 27, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
and to cap it all they are going to charge to park there ,family come to llandudno eat out bowling oops overstay our welcome ,nice big fine
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Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
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Is there any sinage outside?  ???
There isn't, actually, but Shus already had signage up so they wouldn't have needed planning permission anyway.
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Post by: Trojan on July 28, 2011, 07:33:53 PM
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Is there any sinage outside?  ???
There isn't, actually, but Shus already had signage up so they wouldn't have needed planning permission anyway.

I'm not sure what Shus is? I couldn't see any signage in the photo indicating what the property is. Perhaps there is signage there somewhere or they have not got round to putting any up yet. Perhaps.
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Post by: Fester on July 28, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
SHUS was the Shoe shop which occupied the building before the new Brasserie.
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Post by: Trojan on July 28, 2011, 07:39:25 PM
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SHUS was the Shoe shop which occupied the building before the new Brasserie.


Thanks Fester. Do you happen to know if Ainsworths has any sinage outside?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
No, they don't, they have lettering on the windows instead. All very tasteful.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2011, 07:29:57 PM
The JD Sports shop on Mostyn Street is now called 'Outlet Branded Clearance'.
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Post by: hollins on August 01, 2011, 06:14:13 PM
I hope it is okay to put this in this section because technically it is "Shops, out of area!"
I can't wait for this shop to open. It is the new M & S store being built at Cheshire Oaks near Ellesmere Port.
The roof is amazing. It will be 150,000sq ft with 950 parking spaces. It will be their second largest UK store and is now due to open August 2012.
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 09:54:22 AM
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Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?

If that IS the case, and Poundstretchers were gazumped (after putting up thier signage) then they deserve all they get!
Speculation now that it is going to be a Sainsburys Local!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 10:36:51 AM
I understand that the Julian Graves shop in the Victoria Centre has been placed on the market.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
The Parade Pub in Church Walks will be reopening in a  few weeks as an 'authentic Irish Bar'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2011, 12:00:33 AM
Interesting!
Judging by how busy all the other pubs and restauarants in Church Walks were tonight, that is a great idea and it will rake it in.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 06, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Hope the brewery are not doing it on the cheap and it just reverts to the dive it has always been. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 08:15:19 PM
Topolinos in Upper Mostyn Street have applied to operate as a Takeaway, Planning Officers are (rightly, in my view) recommending refusal.
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=26761 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=26761)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 09:51:59 AM
I've heard this morning that the Starbucks coffee shop chain are possibly looking at opening in Llandudno. A corner site in central Llandudno currently in retail use has been mentioned. All very tentative, of course, so we shall see.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 08, 2011, 11:41:30 AM
I'm pretty sure that Julian Graves is a franchise so maybe the franchisee is fed up.
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Post by: Pendragon on August 08, 2011, 12:45:20 PM
I'm a proper coffee addict I have to admit but you can't beat Costa Coffee in my opinion.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 08, 2011, 05:33:25 PM
Jumpers , wades and Diskos are still under offer and we are still on Dominoes hit list. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2011, 11:07:40 PM
As I left the very excellent Fat Cat bar tonight, at only 9.40pm,  I couldn't help but notice that other bars such as Fountains and the London had literally NO-ONE in. Completely devoid of customers.  (The Fat Cat had quite a few in , but could not be deemed busy)

This is August for heavens sake, the main season is here in full vigour,  there is something very wrong methinks.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 08, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
yes, the weather is more like March!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2011, 11:12:53 PM
It is,  but there is more to it...
There are people in the town despite the poor weather,  so are they staying in?  are they skint?

Whats going on?   I foresee more businesses going bump before this year is out at this rate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on August 08, 2011, 11:37:46 PM
Came back through town at about 4:30 yesterday and for some reason there seemed to be about 50% of the people that had been around at a similar time last week. Second week of the major school holidays.  Could it be that people can no longer afford to have both of their "wakes" weeks away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 09, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
Asda car park was still mainly empty just after 9 this morning and I could have parked anywhere at the Bog Island end of town.
Colwyn Bay was worse at 10.30am, very few stalls on the market( no plants which is what I went for) and even Morrisons ( got a couple of plants there) was quiet.
The proms in Colwyn, Rhos and Llandudno were all quiet.
Weather?---- Brr !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
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Asda car park was still mainly empty just after 9 this morning and I could have parked anywhere at the Bog Island end of town.
Colwyn Bay was worse at 10.30am, very few stalls on the market( no plants which is what I went for) and even Morrisons ( got a couple of plants there) was quiet.
The proms in Colwyn, Rhos and Llandudno were all quiet.
Weather?---- Brr !

Maybe everyone has popped over to Liverpool for a spot of rioting?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 01:49:34 PM
Trojan, you seem to be posting on UK time at the moment.  Have you got insomnia or should we say "Welcome Home"! 
 :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 02:01:56 PM
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Trojan, you seem to be posting on UK time at the moment.  Have you got insomnia or should we say "Welcome Home"! 
 :)

Insomnia Blodyn.  :weeping:

Funny, you're not the only person who thought I was home.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
Sorry to hear that, Trojan.   :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 02:14:57 PM
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Sorry to hear that, Trojan.   :(

Thanks Blodyn.

To make matters worse I'm an agnostic dyslexic insomniac.

I lie awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
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I'm an agnostic dyslexic insomniac.

I lie awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.  :-X

You can be relied on to raise a smile!
 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 09, 2011, 04:57:55 PM
Work has started on the old Diskos shop today - don't know yet what it is going to be though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2011, 09:28:20 AM
A little bit outside our area but...Marks & Spencers closing their Rhyl store will be devastating for the town. Listers have also pulled out.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 09:30:52 AM
Just read that myself, most of the chains have gone -- Mothercare and the like. Soon there will be nothing--- Rhyl was a lovely place when I was a kid-- It's such a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on August 12, 2011, 10:03:32 AM
that's a shame but both stores are much smaller than their Llandudno counterparts and don't have the space to display a full range of goods,  the food part of M&S often seems busy although come to think of it I haven't "popped into Rhyl" for a long long time.

My main purchases from M&S these days are online and few and far between, seem to have less spare cash than I used to!

Have found lately that  my supermarket shopping bills have risen in recent months and whereas I would spend maybe £25 in one go, it is now nearer £40 - and that's without Cashback! Maybe others have the same experience?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2011, 10:12:25 AM
Yes, you are right!
I do my weekly shop in Asda and it used to be around £40, now it is £50-55 but I always put my receipt in to their price guarantee page the following morning. There is almost always a voucher for anything from £1 - £5 back.
It is amazing how it works it out when you consider all those till receipts they must generate.
If the fruit and veg buyer from Asda is reading this forum, I think you do an amazing job!
Bafore I came to this area I had an M&S and Waitrose close by but I had to abandon them and have found the fruit and veg in particular in Asda to be better and cheaper than both of them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
You must have hit post at exactly the same time as I did Hollins. This has happened twice recently and my post has shot away into the wide blue yonder!.
Enough to say without typing the whole bloomin' lot out again that my post was on the same lines-- I too use the price guarantee and have had some very good coupons.
M&S Dine in for £10.00 can be lucrative if you pick and chose what you buy !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
O'h dear, sorry about that. I hope it wasn't something I did.
I used to like the M&S £10 meal offer but I was put off this.
One day in M&S in Llandudno I was waiting to pay for food, huge queues!
I remembered I had forgotten to buy something. I could see what I wanted on a nearby shelf so I left my trolley and went over to get it. When I returned 30 seconds later my trolley had been moved to behind two elderly couples. I fumed behind them while I waited for them both to pay for two £10 meals each.
It has put me off them for good!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on August 12, 2011, 10:44:07 AM
I currently use Quidco for any online shopping (You register and when you buy online you visit the same retailers as usual, but via a link on your chosen Quidco site. When you make a purchase, the retailer pays a commission to Quidco, who in turn gives you a cut of the money.) and have twice in the last couple of months had cashback paid into my bank amount. Some of the larger shops Tesco, B&Q and Argos (I think) are available.  Tesco's for instance pay up to 3% for some of their on-line shopping.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 11:20:05 AM
Not a prob Hollins-- I know what you mean about M&S and it's queues. Grrr--it drives me nuts !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 12, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
Just heard that Iceland is closing.  Rent is 31k a month????? can't be true can it?  Mostyn's are pricing the town out if it is.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
Mostyn Champneys is owned by British Land, a property company.

http://www.britishland.com/ (http://www.britishland.com/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on August 12, 2011, 01:23:52 PM
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Just heard that Iceland is closing.  Rent is 31k a month????? can't be true can it?  Mostyn's are pricing the town out if it is.

You are right. It is the most rent paid on any Iceland store in the uk.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2011, 11:46:52 PM
About 6 months ago, I posted on this Forum about price increases becoming more frequent and insidiuous.
I named the thread 'Price Inflation', and it still exists I believe.
I prattled on about crisps now being 65p a bag etc..and basic foodstuffs flying up in price.
But at the time, those who responded, basically told me I was wrong.

I am sad to see that more and more people are noticing this now, but at least I know that I'm not going mad.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
 :)I have just seen an advert for a chef ,it read, we have an amazing openingat a new multi million flagship center in Llandudno.Interesting :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2011, 11:10:01 AM
Where did you see that, Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2011, 11:30:01 AM
I just logged in Llandudno retail developments, hotel and it came up in a job recruitment website, sorry did not get the name,but on first page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2011, 11:33:28 AM
Ah, that is referring to St Dunstans!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2011, 12:16:46 PM
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About 6 months ago, I posted on this Forum about price increases becoming more frequent and insidiuous.
I named the thread 'Price Inflation', and it still exists I believe.
I prattled on about crisps now being 65p a bag etc..and basic foodstuffs flying up in price.
But at the time, those who responded, basically told me I was wrong.

I am sad to see that more and more people are noticing this now, but at least I know that I'm not going mad.

One thing that really bugs me about crisps - is that they are often below half full :o
How are they allowed to get away with this... The governments always banging on about recycling  :rage:
Surely this causes TWICE as much waste... Why do they not put in a law that says bags must be at least 80% filled or something similiar?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 13, 2011, 12:28:58 PM
Its something to do with your personality----bag half full or bag half empty
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on August 13, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
Case in point about crisps, Walkers used to do a big bag (100g) for 99p, they now do a 'New Bigger Bag' for 125p but sneakily it is just 115g.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 04:53:41 PM
The Next Clearance shop on Mostyn Street has closed down.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 08:57:51 PM
  :) Caffe Nero advertising for a store manager for their new Llandudno store. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2011, 09:21:09 PM
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  :) Caffe Nero advertising for a store manager for their new Llandudno store. ZXZ
Nice find, Wrex. I wonder where that is going to be...maybe Diskos? Would need change of use.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 17, 2011, 12:08:32 AM
where and what was Diskos?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2011, 01:12:26 AM
Diskos is an empty discount store, beside the empty formally Alworths / Woolworths store, opposite the Halifax Bank in Mostyn St.
There has been some activity inside recently, and when I enquired to lease it, I was informed over 2 months ago that it had indeed been let.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 17, 2011, 07:49:31 AM
 Three choices that we know of at the moment, Jumpers, Diskos and Wades are all under offer so it could be one of those. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 09:54:43 AM
 8) Trawling through the retail property pages looking at Llandudno the old Woolworths does not come up on any of the agents, me thinks this tells us its not available.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 19, 2011, 12:19:41 PM
Anyone know what is coming in to the old Jumpers shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2011, 07:19:39 PM
The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on August 25, 2011, 12:04:16 AM
5 bedroom business for sale - The George & Dragon Castle Street, Conwy http://bit.ly/oRz6rd (http://bit.ly/oRz6rd)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2011, 12:08:04 AM
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The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.

They will be spoilt for choice, are there any in St George's Place that are not empty in fact?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2011, 11:32:23 AM
Lots of good news today in the Weekly News today.

It’s expected that contracts will soon be signed for Sainsbury’s to take over the former Woolworth’s store in Mostyn Street,
Very good news for the top end of town and, indeed, the town as a whole!  $good$

furniture giant DFS is due to open in the former Halford’s unit at the Mostyn Champneys retail park early in 2012.
This has been mentioned on here before as a possibility, so good to have it confirmed.

"High street coffee shop chain Caffe Nero is currently advertising for staff,  and is believed to be moving into the current Burton’s in Mostyn Street after the clothes store’s lease expires."
Burtons lease doesnt expire until 28/9/2012, so quite a wait for it to open...unless Burtons owners Arcadia Group surrender their lease (which I hear they are quite happy to do as that shop doesnt make any money and they want to concentrate on their Parc Llandudno store)

"Budget hotel chain TraveLodge is said to be close to completing a deal to buy the derelict former Clarence Hotel in Gloddaeth Street"
This isnt really correct. Travelodge will be letting the upper floors of the renovated building from a commercial property investor - they aren't buying the building themselves. The ground floor will be let separately as three units, with the central section being the Travelodge reception. The other two ground floor units will probably be used for restaurant and bar respectively. I believe the bar has already been let.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Craigydonian on August 25, 2011, 01:19:37 PM
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The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.

They will be spoilt for choice, are there any in St George's Place that are not empty in fact?

It's the former Urchins clothing store.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 25, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
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It's the former Urchins clothing store

I didn't realise Liverpool fans had a store in Craig-y-Don.  ???

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2011, 01:39:56 PM
After all the speculation I only hope that at last the facts are correct !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
Looks as though Caffe Nero may offer the existing cafe operators on Mostyn Street some real competition:

"Within the top 3 branded chains Caffè Nero is ranked highest overall by Key Performance Indicators with first place in 7 out of 10 KPIs (coffee quality, atmosphere, value for money, speed of service, friendly service, food quality and cleanliness)"

I've long said that Burtons Corner would be ideal for a branded coffee shop operator - a superb location. I said on here a few weeks ago that a major coffee shop brand was interested in a prominent corner site currently in retail use but my contact thought it was Starbucks. Turned out to be Caffe Nero, which is nearly as good in my book!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 26, 2011, 11:45:03 PM
Dave, I know you are a regular patron of many coffee establishments in the Three Towns area.

I think you will find that Caffe Nero is superior to Starbucks, and that an increased amount of your disposable income and time will be spent therein.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on August 27, 2011, 07:34:18 AM
if superior to Starbucks, I hope they do an equivalent of a Toffee Nut Latte  $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 09:17:52 AM
An Espresso as good as Costa makes will suit me !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 10:20:20 AM
I prefer Illy!    $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
I'm with Yorkie on this.  $good$

La Gatte used to make the best cappuccino in town and that was with Illy. $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 07:36:18 PM
Pdro's Cafe 101 also used Illy and the Corner Cafe in Rhos also.   Z**  Lubbly Jubbly!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 07:37:15 PM
Cafe Illy in Conwy also uses...you guessed it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2011, 12:02:55 AM
Tonight, Llandudno Town Centre was rocking... (nearly) all the bars were packed, and it was great to see.

Cooneys is being rebranded as an Irish Bar, and has a re-opening night on Wednesday this week.
Only the genius that is Mick Cooney could think (or dare) to have a real life leprechaun outside the bar tonight, handing out flyers for the re-opening.
I took some pictures of the wee man,  but I'm too tired to upload them.
If any one is interested, I'll pop them on here on Monday night.... remind me.
The guy was no more than 2 feet six inches tall... and he was in the full Irish leprechaun suit.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry,  so I bought a pint instead!

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on August 29, 2011, 02:32:45 PM
Heard a rumor that Frankie & Benny's http://bit.ly/pPyPwz (http://bit.ly/pPyPwz) are taking over the unit currently occupied by Iceland in Llandudno

 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 29, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2011, 07:15:46 AM
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its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2011, 11:03:25 AM
I've just spoken to Caffe Nero and they intend to have their Llandudno unit open for early December.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 30, 2011, 01:22:16 PM
Oh, boring, boring BORING!  The Jumpers shop has become yet another mobile 'phone shop that's four in close proximity - daft.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 30, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
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its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?

The fact that the rent has gone up on places, forcing companies to close stores and people to become unemployed.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2011, 12:56:51 PM
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its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?

The fact that the rent has gone up on places, forcing companies to close stores and people to become unemployed.   
I did see this quote from the Pioneer:

"Llandudno Town Councillor Angie O'Grady, said: "People rely on that service, because they deliver as well. I am really saddened by this.  "I'm sure Mostyn Estates are good at getting businesses into the town and have someone on hand. I'm pretty sure it won't stay empty for too long. "

Does she realise that it has nothing whatsoever to do with Mostyn Estates?! Mostyn Champneys is a joint venture between British Land & Hercules Unit Trust.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
What more do you expect from our Councillors, intelligence?     :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on September 02, 2011, 09:37:33 PM
People don't even seem bothered that people are becoming unemployed, more bothered about where they are going to shop!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
I'm more concerne about the price hikes I am seeing, in what WAS a budget drinking chain..
I'm talking about Wetherspoons.
I have my breakfast there nearly every day whilst our kitchen has been out of action.
For some obscure reason, the prices of food have increased from anywhere between 5% and 25%.
It is the SECOND time this year that this has happened too.. an outrage.
Not only that, but surely, (in line with hotels and holiday companies) would it not make more sense to REDUCE the prices out of season?

If you compare the price of most lagers in Wetherspoons they are about 10% lower than other local pubs...
BUT... the others offer loyalty cards which reduce thiers to the same level.

When you consider the buying power that Wetherspoons have, none of this makes commercial sense to me.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 02, 2011, 10:40:51 PM
Wetherspoons margins are under severe pressure; they are trying to boost them a bit. However, cheap beer and food is the only real reason to go there (unless you enjoy watching alcoholics arguing), so they are slowly shooting themselves in the foot, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 03, 2011, 07:36:30 AM
There was a hike in VAT from 17 1/2 to 20% and food prices have gone up  which I notice as I do a lot of the shopping!    WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on September 05, 2011, 07:26:04 PM
Heard today that Aldi is closing down, yet again more people becoming unemployed due to the rent increase on Mostyn Champneys!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2011, 07:33:21 PM
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Heard today that Aldi is closing down, yet again more people becoming unemployed due to the rent increase on Mostyn Champneys!!
This was predicted back in March, yet Aldi denied it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2011, 10:28:12 PM
Is it true this time??

I seriously hope not.
A good friend of mine left Asda to work at Aldi,  and was only appointed about three weeks ago!!   :o :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2011, 11:04:21 PM
I have checked with my friend, who says NO information has been given to staff regarding any closure.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on September 08, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
I am not surprised if the staff don't know what's going on but I am surprised that they are considering closing as they seem to get busier and busier as time progresses. In the current economic climate more and more shoppers are discovering that Aldi have some really excellent products at very competitive prices. I think the fact that they tend not to sell many well known branded products puts people off but slowly the message is getting through.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2011, 09:41:14 PM
I don't believe that Aldi is actually closing Dave.
There has been no consulation period introduced for redundancies, and that HAS to happen under employment law.

In fact, I believe they are still recruiting for a vacancy!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2011, 09:41:55 PM
I was chatting to Wrex this morning, and we were talking about the recent swathe of new business opening announcements in Llandudno. This got me thinking....can we capitalise on this momentum to draw other expanding businesses into the town? By this, I mean we could draw up a list of chain retailers/cafes/businesses currently expanding their businesses in the UK and then email them extolling the virtues of Llandudno. An obvious base to start would be to look at Chester and see which businesses there would be suitable for Llandudno. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 08, 2011, 09:46:30 PM
Such was done with Peacocks.   They were contacted by an interested resident with the suggestion that the old Coop would be suitable as a Peacock's Store.  They acted on the suggestion and the rest is history.    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2011, 09:52:28 PM
Lets get in touch with..... La Tasca!

A fantastic tapas dining experience, it would rake it in here.

http://www.latasca.co.uk/ (http://www.latasca.co.uk/)

Mmmmmm tapas.  $dins$ $dins$

TK Maxx is another fantastic store that would do well in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 08, 2011, 10:21:14 PM
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This got me thinking....can we capitalise on this momentum to draw other expanding businesses into the town? By this, I mean we could draw up a list of chain retailers/cafes/businesses currently expanding their businesses in the UK and then email them extolling the virtues of Llandudno.

A few suggestions.....
Primark
Deichmann
Dash
Disney Store
Pret a Manger
Pizza Express
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on September 08, 2011, 10:28:05 PM
I'd say Pret wouldn't open in Llandudno (not enough office workers in need of a quick lunch and they don't open in smaller towns - same with Disney really).

What I would love is a Waitrose! Next to the station is perfect! It would really help cement Llandudno as an all-round shopping experience. Asda needs a bit of competition and is not exactly high-quality fayre, especially if you want really nice food for Christmas. It has its demographic, which is fair enough though. A Waitrose also might give Marks a kick up the bum as they need to give the ground floor a badly needed makeover (there were rumours 5 years ago they would). Most of the modern Marks food halls are black and sleek and Llandudno's is one of the few that is still completely the old format.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on September 09, 2011, 12:02:11 AM
IKEA! $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on September 09, 2011, 01:03:36 AM
Spearmint Rhino? WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2011, 08:35:02 AM
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Spearmint Rhino? WWW

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 09, 2011, 09:46:54 AM
TK Maxx is another fantastic store that would do well in Llandudno.

TK Max in Bangor is one of my favourite haunts....although saying that I haven't been for ages.  Some people are put off by the endless rails, not me I'll spend hrs in the place.  I think your right Fester a TK Max would do very well in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
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There's one near to where I live. I really would like to see something different in Llandudno.  8)

But having said that, the old abattoir may be an ideal place for an establishment of that kind.

However, locals may not be happy with a load of hanging meat in Builder Street again.  :-X

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
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IKEA! $good$

I like IKEA.  :)

I've never bought any furniture there. I just chow down on the Swedish meatballs in the restaurant.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on September 09, 2011, 02:42:46 PM
I think there is an opportunity for a quality patisserie and coffee shop, something that makes you stop and drool in the window !
What's currently on offer doesn't come anywhere near there. Gingerbread men, iced currant buns and cakes with pink icing sugar and hundreds and thousands on them. Yuk, walk on by !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 09, 2011, 04:22:42 PM
I have nothing against table top dancing......no harm is done.  The problem with having such a premises in Llandudno is that most lads/men on the streets at night are local, can you imagine the problem the girlfriends/wives would have with their other half if they found out (and they would) they had been to such a venue.   :o  So I can't see it working, even if Mostyn Estates or the council agreed to the plans (which they most definitely wouldn't)  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 09, 2011, 06:34:18 PM
 ;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on September 09, 2011, 07:28:10 PM
Hollins - there is already a Dash dept. within Clres in Llandudno
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
Thanks for reminding me about that. I had forgotten.
I was just trying to think about DaveR's topic about which Chester businesses would be suitable in Llandudno. They are not my own choice of shops.
I was thinking:
Disney.......young ones
Primark.......teenage ones
Dash........ older ones etc!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2011, 08:08:22 PM
I am however a huge fan of TK Maxx, Betty's and Waitrose.
What a combination.
I don't think I have ever been to a cafe anywhere that compares to Betty's.
I used to live near the Northallerton one.
I don't think they will ever move out of Yorkshire, more's the pity.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2011, 08:41:16 PM
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I have nothing against table top dancing......no harm is done.  The problem with having such a premises in Llandudno is that most lads/men on the streets at night are local, can you imagine the problem the girlfriends/wives would have with their other half if they found out (and they would) they had been to such a venue.   :o  So I can't see it working, even if Mostyn Estates or the council agreed to the plans (which they most definitely wouldn't)  :-X
Hmmm...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 09, 2011, 09:29:45 PM
I've just looked at the young lady in the previous post. Then I scrolled down into related topics. There were 4, and two of them the last post was put in by me.  No one write a word after me.  So, I presume, this means one of two things. If I write something on a subject, it is so brainsmashing that no one can follow it. Or ---- its so boring that no one can be bothered to carry on. With that in mind, as far as the young lady is concerned---no comment from me.   :-X :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2011, 10:14:36 PM
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;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$

A pale imitation is Badger's, in the Victoria Centre.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: gunnerboy on September 10, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
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;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$

A pale imitation is Badger's, in the Victoria Centre.

when barry m set up badgers many years ago he did appear to have on eye on the bettys york / harrogate set up
the said establishment appears to be a pale imitation nowdays since it changed hands a few years ago   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 10, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
Surely this is THE place in North Wales for Afternoon Tea?

Penmaenuchaf Hall - North Wales     
Penmaenpool, Dolgellau, Gwynedd, LL40 1YB

Penmaenuchaf Hall is a splendid country house built in 1860 as a summer and sporting residence by Bolton cotton magnate James Leigh Taylor, whose heraldic crest stands above the main entrance.

The public rooms have polished oak floors and panelling, sumptuous rugs, jugs of fresh flowers and blazing log fires.The hall nestles peacefully in the foothills of the Cader Idris mountains and enjoys fine views over the Mawddach Estuary.

It is an ideal venue for Afternoon Tea if you are touring the Snowdonia National Park or the attractions of North Wales.

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Afternoon Tea for Two, £29.00
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
Looks lovely - perhaps we should have a Three Towns Forum Afternoon Tea there?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
Except by the time we all get there it will be time to come back !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 10, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
Afternoon Tea for Two, £29.00  :o :o :o How much!  :o

We usually take flasks and our own food with us when we go out, like today when we visited Penrhyn Castle  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 10, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
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Looks lovely - perhaps we should have a Three Towns Forum Afternoon Tea there?

I'm sure I could negotiate a special deal if we can get a good turn out.   It could be combined with an organised "run out" in our cars and turned into a pleasant social occasion.

At £29 it is £1 cheaper than Bodygallen Hall!   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Yes, Mrs Fester took her Mum and Dad for afternoon tea at Bodysgallen Hall recently, (it was their golden wedding anniversary)

But this was just an incidental amongst the other bits and bobs and meals we were treating them to.

Still, there was precious little change from £100 for the three of them... it made me sweat I can tell you!

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 02:02:52 PM
By Gum Lad-- It would have made me sweat blood at that price! Sorry--no can do!
I'll stick with ME and take my flask
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 11, 2011, 02:30:46 PM
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Still, there was precious little change from £100 for the three of them... it made me sweat I can tell you!

I was shocked enough at the £29,  £100 is horrifying  :o :o, does not go well with being as tight as I am  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 04:30:44 PM
My flabber is ghasted !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 11, 2011, 04:44:26 PM
http://www.bodysgallen.com/traditional-afternoon-tea/ (http://www.bodysgallen.com/traditional-afternoon-tea/)


Everything is relative I suppose........

http://www.claridges.co.uk/page.aspx?id=1792 (http://www.claridges.co.uk/page.aspx?id=1792)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 05:19:53 PM
MMM that makes Bodysgallen seem cheap!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on September 11, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
If Bodysgallen seem's cheap we can have a Waitrose. Oh please please
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 12, 2011, 07:41:00 AM
  ;DI have e-mailed WAITROSE HEADQUARTERS to tell them we have a site available next to the railway station ,so lets hope for you they have a look.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on September 12, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
Be careful how many Hours you spend in TKMax Pendragon, I was there a couple of weeks ago & like you lose all sense of time in there, I ended up 1min over the parking time (3hrs) & got a 75.00  fine.   I couldn't believe it & rang them, explained that between my cousin & myself we had spent over 200.00, with much more over the last 12months. They were very helpful & suggested that I write to the Parking Contractor with a copy of proof of purchase & it would be waived.I am happy to say that was ;D     I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 12, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
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I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Should have been to Specsavers!    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 12, 2011, 05:16:28 PM
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Be careful how many Hours you spend in TKMax Pendragon, I was there a couple of weeks ago & like you lose all sense of time in there, I ended up 1min over the parking time (3hrs) & got a 75.00  fine.   I couldn't believe it & rang them, explained that between my cousin & myself we had spent over 200.00, with much more over the last 12months. They were very helpful & suggested that I write to the Parking Contractor with a copy of proof of purchase & it would be waived.I am happy to say that was ;D     I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Usually they can't enforce these parking 'charges' there was a lot on BBC Watchdog about it some time ago. I still find it outrageous that DVLA sell drivers details to these parking companies  $angry$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2011, 08:37:30 AM
One of the mobile phone shops in the Victoria Centre is now showing as being available in the commercial property listings.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2011, 08:46:47 AM
The mobile phone shops in the VC never look busy.
On the other hand, the old Homestyle shop (near Gareth Roberts Opticians), in Mostyn St looks like it is well racked out, and not far from opening.  I hope its not just a seasonal or Xmas shop.




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2011, 10:53:05 AM
A KEBAB house has been refused permission to extend its opening hours until 2am because of complaints from members of the public about noise from the premises.

And North Wales Police also objected to the application from Zak’s Kebab in Llandudno’s Upper Mostyn Street which at present has to close at midnight.

Inspector Ian Verburg commented: “The premises were recently prosecuted for selling beyond hours. The police and Licensing Department have concerns over the current running of the establishment. Views of local residents were also taken into account, and as a result, a reasoned argument was put before the magistrates who refused the extended hours application.”

No one at Zak’s was available to comment, but Peter Garwood of the Upper Mostyn Street Access Group, said businesses and residents were pleased the application had been refused.

“It will help reduce noise pollution in the early hours,” he said.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/09/15/llandudno-kebab-house-must-close-at-midnight-55243-29421941/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/09/15/llandudno-kebab-house-must-close-at-midnight-55243-29421941/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2011, 08:30:00 PM
A spokesman for Zak's said tonight...

''Which a sauce-a you want?   You wanna mint sauce-a?  You wanna chilli sauce-a,  you wanna chips anna cheese-a, or you wanna donner meat-a?''

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 16, 2011, 11:33:27 AM
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A spokesman for Zak's said tonight...

''Which a sauce-a you want?   You wanna mint sauce-a?  You wanna chilli sauce-a,  you wanna chips anna cheese-a, or you wanna donner meat-a?''

Sheeesh...Fester!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 16, 2011, 09:28:40 PM
Did you say Sheesh?  Or Sheek?   Your choice mate!  $drink1$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 02:18:14 AM
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Did you say Sheesh?  Or Sheek?   Your choice mate!  $drink1$ $dins$

I'd like to go where Kylie Minogue gets her kebabs......
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2011, 09:45:41 PM
I was sad to see that the Little Deli in Upper Mostyn Street is up for sale.

http://www.james-jackson.co.uk/properties/581920.html (http://www.james-jackson.co.uk/properties/581920.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
It has been up for sale for quite a while now hasn't it?

Emma Baravelli and her husband work very hard and long hours, it is hard to see how the business could be improved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2011, 10:03:11 PM
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It has been up for sale for quite a while now hasn't it?

Emma Baravelli and her husband work very hard and long hours, it is hard to see how the business could be improved.
It has, but they've chosen to mention it on Facebook themselves now. They are going to set up a specialist chocolate business, I believe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2011, 06:05:15 PM
I was in Bangor today and noticed that a branch of Republic had recently opened. They would be ideal for the old Next shop on Mostyn Street, I'd have thought?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
It appears that the old Going Places shop opposite the former Woolies has been let. The windows are now papered over and there are people working inside. Another boost for that end of town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
who is going to be first to find out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 19, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
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who is going to be first to find out.

place your bets!  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2011, 08:22:21 PM
 8)  My monies on Yorkie. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
Caffe Nero have just started recruiting for a Manager for their new Llandudno branch. Salary: £19,000-£24,000 + bonus, + benefits - apply using the link below:

http://www.caterer.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=51317712 (http://www.caterer.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=51317712)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 09:45:35 AM
DFS have also just started recruiting for their new Llandudno store:

http://www.dfs.co.uk/careers/jobs/list/location/llandudno/ (http://www.dfs.co.uk/careers/jobs/list/location/llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 07:10:12 PM
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8)  My monies on Yorkie. D)
You've just lost.  :laugh: It is going to be a Red Cross charity shop. Better than being empty, I suppose! I wonder if they're getting a discount on the £50k a year rent? Don't they already have a shop on Madoc street?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 20, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
The Re>d Cross shop closed about 3 years or more ago
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
Its a sad day when we are glad to see a charity shop open in Mostyn St ,but that is life coffee shops and charity shops. I never realised Bangor had such shops asd Republic and H and M ,no wonder youngsters are shopping there and ignoring the town. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 09:39:06 AM
I see that the Cafe in Oriel Mostyn is now available to let. Running it in house can't have been a success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
Beware anyone thinking to take on that particular lease, (Oriel Mostyn Cafe), Nice though it is, it is out of the way and deathly quiet.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 21, 2011, 07:08:24 PM
This cafe is to me a great waste of a lovely room with a great view. I think it is so badly managed. The last time I was there the chef and a waiter were sitting in the corner table by the window. I ordered my food at the counter and was served by a pleasant girl.
There were very few people in as usual. The table I like by the window with a view of the sea had not been cleaned properly. I asked if the floor could be brushed as it was covered in crumbs.
The male waiter was summoned with a brush and pan but made it quite obvious that he was not impressed with his task. He said, "We don't normally do this until the evening."
This just sums it up. When I think of all the money and effort that has gone in to buying the furniture and decorating the room and nobody can be bothered to keep it clean.
I must admit I was sat there thinking what Betty's could have done with the space.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 07:14:16 PM
Your last point is a very interesting one H.
If someone could summon the energy and the finances to make the Cafe an attraction in itself (a la Betty's) then there would be patrons by far than the Gallery itself.

 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
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This cafe is to me a great waste of a lovely room with a great view. I think it is so badly managed. The last time I was there the chef and a waiter were sitting in the corner table by the window. I ordered my food at the counter and was served by a pleasant girl.
There were very few people in as usual. The table I like by the window with a view of the sea had not been cleaned properly. I asked if the floor could be brushed as it was covered in crumbs.
The male waiter was summoned with a brush and pan but made it quite obvious that he was not impressed with his task. He said, "We don't normally do this until the evening."
This just sums it up. When I think of all the money and effort that has gone in to buying the furniture and decorating the room and nobody can be bothered to keep it clean.
I must admit I was sat there thinking what Betty's could have done with the space.
Your experience is the same as mine, Hollins. I found it amazing that one of the prime bay window tables (the one in the corner) had been screened off just for staff to sit at. Last time I called in, I had to go round to that table to summon a member of staff to serve me after fruitlessly waiting for a couple of minutes for someone to appear! I have to say that the menu is pretty uninspiring too.

But...with a motivated chef/staff, it could become very popular indeed, I feel, as it's a great space. They could even feature some of my photos on the walls...  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 09:49:34 PM
But very few people would ever see them Dave,
With the majority of visitors to the town being on motability scooters, zimmer frames or walking sticks, WHY would anyone choose to situate a cafe UPSTAIRS!!

This is why Badgers, Home Cooking, Cafe Culture and the rest will always prosper!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on September 21, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
anyone know what is going in the old next shop work going on there today
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 22, 2011, 05:57:01 AM

They could even feature some of my photos on the walls...  ;D
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Never mind just putting your photos on the cafe walls upstairs. They should be inviting you to have an exhibition of your work downstairs. This would be of great interest to visitors and locals alike and would go some way to repay you for all you do for the town.

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But very few people would ever see them Dave,
With the majority of visitors to the town being on motability scooters, zimmer frames or walking sticks, WHY would anyone choose to situate a cafe UPSTAIRS!!

This is why Badgers, Home Cooking, Cafe Culture and the rest will always prosper!

Fester, there is a lift!
I was trying to think of busy upstairs cafes........Little Betty's in York, M&S in Llandudno!

It is such a lovely room. I hope someone can make a success of it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2011, 08:07:31 AM
Thanks for your kind words, Hollins. In the past, I have thought of speaking with other local photographers to see if it was worth approaching Oriel Mostyn with a view to them staging an exhibition of local photographers' work. However, I doubt our 'faces would fit'.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 22, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
I'm still of the opinion any cafe opening in Llandudno should market itself on traditional Welsh food and local Welsh produce.  Although there are nice cafes in town they all sell similar food.   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2011, 09:09:37 PM
Talking/writing about cafes.  In other threads there has been mention of Sainsburys going into the old Woolworths.  Are they planning to have a cafe or restaurant inside?
The reason I ask is in the official notice on the door asking for permission to sell alcohol, there is also an application to serve refreshments between 11.00 p.m. and midnight.
   This doesent make a lot of sense to me, so I am just guessing that they can put a cafe inside without needing a licence, but they need a licence to operate after 11 p.m.
    Doesent make any odds to me, I doubt very much I will ever feel the need to go into a Sainsburys cafe at 11.30 at night. But I am surprised all you eagle eyed official notice readers on this forum havent queried this.







Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 09:59:50 PM
We did. $good$

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Sainsburys have a Alcohol Licence application on the door of Alworths.

The application for an Alcohol Licence by Sainsburys for the former Woolies site is daily from 6am – Midnight.

There is a second application to serve refreshments from 11pm – Midnight.

What is that all about?
Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 23, 2011, 09:39:00 PM
Sorry Bri ---- I missed your post. But, what do you reckon? Do you think I'm right with my guess?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2011, 10:08:51 PM
The main Licence Application is for the sale of alcohol off the premises. There is a separate application for 'late night refreshments', which is also needed if the applicant wishes to sell any hot food or drink (not necessarily alcohol) for consumption off the premises after 11pm. There will be no cafe or bar in Sainsburys and the hours stated are standard maximums, i.e. the actual opening hours will probably be less.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 23, 2011, 10:10:32 PM
Dunno, Mike.

Maybe the answer lies here:

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Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 25, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
Sainsburys advertising for a store manager for Llandudno
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 25, 2011, 10:30:42 PM
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Sainsburys advertising for a store manager for Llandudno

http://bit.ly/o5JqSH (http://bit.ly/o5JqSH)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 26, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
Fester and I decided to go for a pint this evening in Fountains but were surprised to find it closed. Apparently, it's been closed all day with various rumours flying around.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2011, 09:19:15 PM
So we had several pints in Fat Cat instead.....  ZXZ ZXZ and we are no wiser!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 28, 2011, 12:14:42 AM
Dave R and I were invited to the Fat Cat tonight, for a special preview tasting of the Xmas menu.  $dins$

But Dave forgot about it!  Luckily, Mrs Fester made up the numbers and we were rewarded with sample after sample of superb cuisine.  The Fat Cat is usually very good, but they have pulled out all the stops this time.
Congratulations to Steve and his team, especially the chefs Dave, Dave, and Joe.  &well&

Other businesses and groups were in attendance and I hope that Fat Cats are rewarded with a high volume of bookings based on what we had tonight.
There is a Xmas meal menu, with round five choices of starter, main and suite. (in addition to the very varied usual menu)
There is also a buffet menu, for groups of 10 or more.

As I type this I am so full, its unbearable, because I sampled everything.
The highlight for me, (amongst so many) was the crispy roast pork. Lots of hot crackling included!

Of course the Xmas menu doesn't start properly until Nov 24th, but when it does, I'll be there... numerous times.

Highly recommended.   
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Post by: Quiggs on September 28, 2011, 01:58:11 PM
Fester, is the 'SUITE ' with the main, a Three Piece, or two?   WWW   L0L  L0L
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Post by: Nemesis on September 28, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
DFS Sale ? _))*
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Post by: wrex on September 28, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
 :) Saw people going into Woolies today and at last they have started on DFS. ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
The old Woolies has been almost completely gutted inside now, Sainsburys are not messing about.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 30, 2011, 09:16:41 PM
None of the 4 big grocery supermarkets waste any time in anything. Remember Asda moving in Llandudno. It took longer to knock down the old John Brights than the complete new Asda being built.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on October 01, 2011, 08:34:08 AM
I think you can now forget about using Ty Isa Road as an alternative to using the prom or Mostyn Street (if yesterday morning is anything to go by). Large lorries blocking across the road both times I tried to use it.
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Post by: wrex on October 01, 2011, 09:37:14 PM
 ;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
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;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
I haven't tried his chips yet. Wonder if I'll get a free portion being as I'm such a good customer of his?  $thanx$
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Post by: Fester on October 02, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
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;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
I haven't tried his chips yet. Wonder if I'll get a free portion being as I'm such a good customer of his?  $thanx$

Ha ha... Well Dave, you are indeed a good customer of his in terms of BEER and COFFEE ... and now I can report that the Fish & Chips are not bad at all. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2011, 09:43:10 AM
The Carleton had run out of food by 6pm last night-- only Jacket Potatoes left, or so I was told !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2011, 10:01:32 AM
Surely they could have nipped down to Asda for some more frozen chips?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2011, 04:27:04 PM
except Asda closes at 4pm on a Sunday, DaveR.
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Post by: wrex on October 03, 2011, 05:38:46 PM
 Soon they can pop next door to Sainsburys. What time is a Sainsburys local allowed to stay open on a Sunday. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2011, 06:12:56 PM
Weren't they in the process of applying to stay open until midnight, seven days a week?
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Post by: Michael on October 03, 2011, 08:20:19 PM
I imagine the hours will be similar to a Spar which is often in town centres i.e.. not tied to the max Sunday trading hours imposed on out of town centres. So it could be virtually open all hours if they wish.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on October 03, 2011, 08:32:21 PM
These are the opening hours for a Sainsbury's local store in Liverpool that I've been to http://bit.ly/pJpegG (http://bit.ly/pJpegG)

Monday           0700   -    2300
Tuesday           0700   -    2300
Wednesday       0700   -    2300
Thursday           0700   -    2300
Friday           0700   -    2300
Saturday           0700   -    2200
Sunday           0700   -    2200
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Post by: Fester on October 04, 2011, 12:20:04 AM
The Carlton often runs out of many items on the menu... way too many for a chain pub really.
When they get it right, its very good value for the money....

The opening hours of the kitchen are very hit and miss also... closing as and when they see fit.
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Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2011, 11:25:53 AM
Fat Cat launches its new menu today:
http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/media/fatcats/menu/MAIN%20MENU.pdf (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/media/fatcats/menu/MAIN%20MENU.pdf)

Mmmmm...slow cooked lamb shank!  $dins$ $drink$
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Post by: Quiggs on October 04, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
£3.95 for a bowl of soup, £9.45 Bangers and Mash ?  :o  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2011, 09:11:55 AM
The Planning Application for the Clarence has been submitted, the plans have changed slightly in that a shop has now been pencilled in instead of a bar on the Bodhyfryd Road side. I believe this is intended to be another convenience store operated by a national retailer.

The Clarence Hotel  16 Gloddaeth Street Llandudno  Conwy  LL30 2DP
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Received Date : 16/09/2011
Determination Level Planning Committee
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 28/09/2011
Proposal: Regeneration of the existing hotel building comprising an extension and partial demolition,
change of use of two units at ground floor to shop and restaurant.


http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/470/appswk28.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/470/appswk28.pdf)
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Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2011, 08:09:55 AM
An interesting comment on Oscar, the figures tally with ones I was recently given.  8)

Talking big bucks,
Clarence hotel, proposal for 88 bedrooms,separate restaurant and convenience store.
Tesco long term trading partners of Travelodge sites.
Proposed spend 3.5 million having bought the property for £800,000.
Rent from travelodge to developer £3760 per room, = £312,080 per year.
Each unit £48,000 per year rent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2011, 01:46:59 PM
Following the refusal to obtain Planning Permission for conversion to flats, the Aberhod Restaurant at Rhos On Sea has been closed and put up for sale at £625,000:

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1)
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Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)
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Post by: dogstail on October 12, 2011, 02:36:05 PM
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The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)

not very nice in my experiance!
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Post by: Pendragon on October 12, 2011, 04:14:21 PM
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The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)

not very nice in my experiance!
A couple of years ago it was really nice but then they got a new chef and the food really went down hill after that.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 12, 2011, 06:21:50 PM
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A couple of years ago it was really nice but then they got a new chef and the food really went down hill after that.
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Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2011, 07:52:50 PM
Lots going on at the Parade Pub in Church Walks:
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Post by: The Little Deli on October 25, 2011, 08:11:10 AM
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Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

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Thanks for your kind comments, we do work hard trying to make a go of the Deli. The photoshoot on the pier was because we have just won several Wales the True Taste awards, one of which was for our Lemon marmalade with Welsh gin. The idea was to have Mark juggling the lemons!!! We subsequently won Product of the year for the marmalade.

Emma
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Post by: DaveR on October 25, 2011, 08:20:14 AM
Welcome to the Forum, Emma.  $good$
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Post by: Fester on October 25, 2011, 09:28:06 AM
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Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

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Thanks for your kind comments, we do work hard trying to make a go of the Deli. The photoshoot on the pier was because we have just won several Wales the True Taste awards, one of which was for our Lemon marmalade with Welsh gin. The idea was to have Mark juggling the lemons!!! We subsequently won Product of the year for the marmalade.

Emma

Well done Emma, and welcome to The Forum.... stick around, if you are not too busy!
Mmm, Lemon Marmalade.... well, I love your fudges, and your bacon cheeseburgers at Extravaganza time, so I think I'm going to like that too!   $dins$ $dins$
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Post by: TheMedz on October 25, 2011, 08:05:17 PM
Emma I've left a message on IM
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Post by: DaveR on October 27, 2011, 08:55:03 PM
I see Cafe Culture have a full page ad in the Weekly News, with some special offers in. A pre-emptive strike against the soon to be arriving Caffe Nero possibly? Perhaps they could consider a loyalty card for regular customers as well - Caffe Nero have one whereby your every tenth coffee is free:

http://realbusiness.co.uk/news/caffandegrave_neroandrsquos_got_a_whole_latte_love (http://realbusiness.co.uk/news/caffandegrave_neroandrsquos_got_a_whole_latte_love)

 ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on October 31, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
Wales the True Taste: Food and Drink Awards 2011 - 2012 Food and Drink Awards 2010 - 2011

Lamb
Cig Mynydd Cymru
GOLD - Rack of Welsh Lamb

Contact - Steve Davies

Ah - now we know!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2011, 09:03:29 AM
A FAST food takeaway was so dirty and had no hot water in two sinks, that it was at risk of a bacteria which could have killed customers.

Hygiene officials feared there was a risk of “pathogenic bacteria creating life threatening illness”, at Charcoal Grill in Old Colwyn.

Yesterday the takeaway’s owner Cuma Ali Tahsin, 38, was prosecuted for seven hygiene and administrative offences.

He was fined £1,700 and ordered to pay £700 costs and a £15 victim surcharge, by Magistrates in Llandudno. Environmental health staff at Conwy council became aware of possible problems and inspected the premises on Abergele Road in March, the court heard.


They found there was no hot running water in the hand basin nor in a double sink in the cellar used for washing up and food washing, among other offences.

Prosecutor Stuart Dunn said food handlers were unable to wash their hands in hot water after handling raw meat. He said this “could have caused pathogenic bacteria that could cause severe or life-threatening illness”. There was also a dirty floor and an “odour of sewage” from a drain, and the owner shut up shop after being told it was unfit for purpose.

The premises re-opened and have been clean since then. But father of three Tahsin is considering selling up anyway because the business is “not lucrative”.

Mr Tahsin admitted all seven charges which took place on or before March 31. Defence barrister Sarah Morgan said Tahsin, who took over the business in January, fixed the problems within four days.

Chairman of the bench Jim Barry said they were serious offences.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/02/north-wales-takeaway-boss-risked-lives-55578-29702830/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/02/north-wales-takeaway-boss-risked-lives-55578-29702830/)


Anyone familiar with Old Colwyn will remember these premises as being the site for many years of the Treleaven Jones Bakery - standards of cleanliness were a lot higher back in those days!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 03, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
 The Parade looks quite nice, anyone know when it poens. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 03, 2011, 09:36:26 PM
Tomorrow night, Friday 4th I believe.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 05, 2011, 03:40:06 PM
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Following the refusal to obtain Planning Permission for conversion to flats, the Aberhod Restaurant at Rhos On Sea has been closed and put up for sale at £625,000:

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1)
The Aberhod on Rhos Prom has finally closed, all signage has been removed from the building. I still think its an excellent opportunity for a good restaurant or even a food led pub.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: emma p on November 05, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
Hi all,
can anyone recommend any nice dog friendly pubs in Llandudno please ?
Cheers
 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2011, 05:24:20 PM
 hi emma try the snowden, always seems to be a few dogs outside when i go past,not sure if they allow them in .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 10, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
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Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.

Nothing left, but great piles of timber now-- my poor Dad in Law will be turning in his grave.
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Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
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Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.

Nothing left, but great piles of timber now-- my poor Dad in Law will be turning in his grave.
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Post by: TheMedz on November 10, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
Walking past it this morning it's amazing how much bigger that window looks now all the Burton interior has been stripped out.
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Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 10:22:57 AM
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Walking past it this morning it's amazing how much bigger that window looks now all the Burton interior has been stripped out.
I was saying to Fester yesterday that it looks quite small for a Caffe Nero and was wondering if they plan to use the first floor as well?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 05:12:24 PM
There was a lot of work going on upstairs at the new Cafe Nero site today - are they planning to make it a 2 floor cafe?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2011, 08:08:52 PM
Never been upstairs but should imagine with how small it is downstairs they must be, they will need a good window scraper though there are a few layers of paint on those. :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 10:19:28 PM
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...there are a few layers of paint on those. :laugh:
Very true! Possibly easier just to reglaze all the windows. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 17, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
From Club 147s Facebook

"New Bar Opening soon...Upper Mostyn Street is the place to be this winter!"

I presume this is another re branding of the white hole that is currently called the Gresham.

The bar has been a hollow shell of it's self for years, can't see Club 147 yet again 'trending' it up is gonna make a huge difference. There is clearly a demand for a real traditionalist pub in upper Mostyn Street, as proved by how well the London does in the Summer, even with high priced alcohol (£4 plus a double)

A budget version of the London - with live music I'm sure would be a winner  ZXZ

Never gonna happen though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2011, 11:37:30 PM
Often we see rave reviews on this thread, for several eateries in Llandudno.
However, I think it is important that we have a balance, and if we are less than enamoured with any experience then we should share that with fellow forum mebers too.

Such is the case with my visit to The Mostyn Cafe, (Mostyn St, Llandudno) it is upstairs beside the Town House public house.

Dave R and I had been in there a few months ago and had a very decent snack, and that was reported favourably on here. Not so today.
I must point out before I continue that Mrs Fester thoroughly enjoyed her food, and gave it 9 out of 10.

I was attracted in by a sign that offered Jacket Spuds, with a variety of fillings for £2.75.
But, only 2 feet from it was another chalk board which confusingly offered the same meal, but at £3.90???

Undaunted, I went in to query it, and order it... but was dismayed to find that they actually didn't have any jacket spuds.
So, I plumped for the Cheese/Ham toastie that I had with Dave and enjoyed in the past.
I asked for it to have onions too, and the waiter jotted it down.

This time however, it looked decidedly less full of cheese, the slice of processed ham was a lukewarm and unappetising specimen.  And...no onion!!!
So, when I mentioned it to the waiter,at first he didn't believe me.... and then trotted off to the kitchen and returned with a mushed up bowl of boiled onions.  Not what was required at al.
He eventually returned with some raw onion, (which I stuffed inside the toastie) but it then fell apart as it was so dry from its lack of cheese.

Sadly, I will be avoiding The Mostyn Cafe in future.
I did hear other diners saying that their meals were very nice however, to be entirely fair.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on November 29, 2011, 08:03:03 PM
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The Primark rumour somebody mentioned a few weeks has surfaced again even though Iceland have said they are staying, watch this space. :P

Apparently Iceland is only open for another 5years
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.
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Post by: white rabbit on December 04, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
sorry to hear that about the 55 diner
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Post by: dogstail on December 04, 2011, 09:53:52 PM
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I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.

The breakfasts there were really nice.  Went past a few weeks ago and was really gutted about it.  Only went there in October
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Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2011, 05:53:46 PM
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I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.

The breakfasts there were really nice.  Went past a few weeks ago and was really gutted about it.  Only went there in October
Yes, always enjoyed my meal there. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
I understand that work on Caffe Nero has stopped whilst the situation regarding Planning Permission is clarified.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2011, 08:36:45 PM
Cafe 101 at Penrhryn Bay has been overhauled since being sold but has not yet opened as the fish and chip shop we were told about.  Now there seems to be fairly extensive alterations (for a small property) going on at the side.  Looks like foundations for an extension.  I'll watch progress. 
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 07, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Sainsburys and Cafe Nero both being held up by CCBC ,no surprise i suppose.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2011, 11:01:49 AM
Caffe Nero planning permission:

81 Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Advertisement
Received Date : 23/11/2011
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 07/12/2011
Team: Minor Applications Team
Proposal: Display of 2 no. halo illuminated 'Caffe Nero' letter fascia signs, 1 no. halo illuminated logo
fascia sign and 5 no. non illuminated awning advertisements
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 14, 2011, 03:54:53 PM
Anyone know if CCBC turned the Clarence down today as recommended.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2011, 05:29:19 PM
Read Oscar
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 14, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
On Oscar someone has put on that it has been passed this afternoon, i do hope this is correct and one less eyesore to look at.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2011, 10:14:35 PM
I believe the overall benefits of the scheme took precedence over the few drawbacks, some of which will be ironed out in negotiations with CCBC officers anyway.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2011, 08:30:52 AM
On the Welsh news last nite they showed how Wrexham were coping with the high st problem, they have a town center manager and they have introduced free parking from midday.I know the town center manager was talked about but never followed up. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on December 16, 2011, 08:50:13 AM
I was in the centre of Wrexham on Wednesday late afternoon/early evening and, considering it was so close to Christmas,  it was eerily quiet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 16, 2011, 09:02:39 AM
Drove through town last night on my way to the joint Hospices Carol Service expecting to have problems parking due to late night shopping. I could have parked anywhere !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2011, 11:32:25 AM
Gone are the days when the town council do anything for the late nite shopping ,but they should have bands on doing xmas carols during the weekends but i ain;t going there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 17, 2011, 01:13:08 PM
There is no Christmas spirit in town apart from the Rotary collecting and the big issue seller with his xmas hat on ,now i know people on this forum must be sick of hearing me go on but unless this council pulls its finger out put some enterainment on spruce up the town and attract more people WE Will miss out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2011, 02:07:58 PM
Amnesty International are singing carols by Boots opticians and there is also some sort of 'Christmas Noise' going on by Greenwoods.
The lady with the organ and the pug dog was playing carols in the old Diskos doorway.
This was today at about 1.30ish.
M&S looked like a bunfight--didn't go down that road-- but they were dishing out bits of broken up biscuit yesterday !!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 17, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
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There is no Christmas spirit in town apart from the Rotary collecting and the big issue seller with his xmas hat on ,now i know people on this forum must be sick of hearing me go on but unless this council pulls its finger out put some enterainment on spruce up the town and attract more people WE Will miss out.

Over the past year you have drawn to our attention many of the shortcomings of the present Town Council.   In 2012 you will be able to do something constructive about the situation.  You can put yourself up for Election to the Town (or even County) Council and if elected, you will be in a position to do something positive about it.    ;)

I am certainly thinking of standing but at my age I may be considered just another old fogey who wants something to do in his spare time - we shall have to wait and see!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 17, 2011, 04:44:49 PM
Yorkie you know when i was there i tried with no success ,they just ain;t interested.Their attitude is WHY should we do anything to help Llandudno at xmas.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
No comment Wrex !
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Post by: Yorkie on December 17, 2011, 05:28:43 PM
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Yorkie you know when i was there i tried with no success ,they just ain;t interested.Their attitude is WHY should we do anything to help Llandudno at xmas.

Ah!   But if we both get elected that would be c 18% so we would only have to get another 82% on our side and - VOILE - everything will change!............ ZXZ

Won't it??????    :D

Then there is a possibilty of Ian Turner and Ruby W,  and maybe a few others from this Forum - who knows we could even finish up with a Three Towns Council in a coalition with Oscar!    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 17, 2011, 06:33:48 PM
I think it would be excellent to have two such erudite and challenging Forum members as Wrex and Yorkie on the Town Council in Llandudno.

I encourage you both, and maybe others, to put yourselves forward, and I would support you in any way I can.

How good it would be to have a voice (albeit indirectly) on the Council from this Forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 18, 2011, 07:44:21 AM
Not until the conservatives of this town vote for the candidate and not the party we have no chance,they would vote for the big issue seller if he had a blue rosset on so we are stuck with whoever JFS can convince to stand and no im not turning blue even for the town;s sake.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
You have to be very careful if they invite you to run with them.   One year J F-S asked me to run with her in  one Ward where I intended standing as an Independant.   I chose to accept her offer, not because I was blue but because I was green = so bloody green that when it came to getting the canvassing under way I was suddenly dropped.  So out went one of the blue's main competition!

It was then a bit late to get my leaflets done, delivered and do some canvassing, so needless to say I did not get in.   Nice trick Janet!   I wouldn't give her the **** from my **** now!    WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Perhaps you should campaign under the Plaid Cymru banner?

It seems to be full of members that are not Welsh by birth?

A bit like Abdul Patel campaigning for the BNP in my view.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2011, 12:59:47 PM
Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 18, 2011, 01:56:03 PM
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Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?

An extra large can!
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Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2011, 04:13:53 PM
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Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?

Yes a can of worms.

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An extra large can!

And -yes a very large can!    _))*    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 18, 2011, 09:26:53 PM
Spent a nice day in Chester and it was very festive,now i know we cannot compare Llandudno;s shopping with Chester but there is no need to keep the town center void of xmas cheer.There was a xmas market in front of their town hall with a few rides for the children,this could easily be done around Bog Island with a little thought.The trees around bog island could all be lite up just like Junction roundabout with a little THOUGHT.Mostyn St could be brought to life with a carol singers, brass bands and some lights with a little THOUGHT.Sitting empty on Mostyn Broadway right in the heartof the shopping area is a large piece of tarmac[coach park] that should be used as a car park over the festive period,with a little thought, ok there is a cost but all these points would enhance the town if the council could just have a little,pride,will,enthusiasum and a little thought.  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Its not just the Town Council that can take such initiatives...

For example, the Pier Company could organise a weekend of market stalls, craft stalls, a Xmas themed event... and even have a Santa's Grotto at the end of the pier.
If advertised properly, it would certainly generate interest and much needed income at this time of the year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2011, 07:44:32 AM
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Its not just the Town Council that can take such initiatives...

For example, the Pier Company could organise a weekend of market stalls, craft stalls, a Xmas themed event... and even have a Santa's Grotto at the end of the pier.
If advertised properly, it would certainly generate interest and much needed income at this time of the year.

Probably too much risk of bad weather closing the pier this time of year sadly  :(
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Post by: Ian on December 19, 2011, 08:07:31 AM
Quote
Mostyn St could be brought to life with a carol singers, brass bands and some lights with a little THOUGHT.

Often wondered about that.  It would rely on voluntary groups being organised enough to do it, but certainly they could under the copious awnings around the street.  Ideally, they would have to pedestrianise, albeit temporarily, the section of Mostyn St to be used, but it could work.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2011, 10:44:15 AM
There seems little incentive for volunteer groups to provide entertainment.  I'm sure they would first of all like to see some initiative from the Council before they would give support - I know I would!   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 19, 2011, 01:37:46 PM
 We vote the councillors in so they can look after the town,unfortunatly there is no will on their part  to show any incentives to anybody
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on December 22, 2011, 01:01:09 PM
The old National Milk Bar is being painted.  Anyone know if it has been let or is it just the land lord trying to get someone to rent it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 07:31:50 PM
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The old National Milk Bar is being painted.  Anyone know if it has been let or is it just the land lord trying to get someone to rent it?
72 Mostyn Street (Burger King as it was last) has been sold to a local businessman with a strong Conwy connection...  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
It was also a Wimpy before Burger King following life as a National Milk Bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 07:50:08 PM
Wasn't there also a Wimpy at the bottom end of Mostyn Street at one time?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 07:53:42 PM
I think you may be right.

Where exactly I can't remember.

National Milk Bars have owned that property for a very long time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 08:01:06 PM
I think it may have been where the Pebble chip shop is now?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 09:00:27 PM
I thought it was in that vicinity.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2011, 12:58:59 PM
and the second letter is?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on December 27, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
The Mulberry on Conwy Marina are charging £30 a head for New Years Eve http://bit.ly/rUuwpF (http://bit.ly/rUuwpF) ouch!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 08:20:16 AM
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The Mulberry on Conwy Marina are charging £30 a head for New Years Eve http://bit.ly/rUuwpF (http://bit.ly/rUuwpF) ouch!

Ah!  But the rest of the body goes free!     _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2011, 01:05:28 PM
Do we know the restaurant chain that is going under theTravelodge.
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Post by: Micox on December 28, 2011, 05:05:19 PM
 >>> Is my memory finally shattering in smithereens or was the National Milk Bar originally between Marks & Sparks and St John's church?
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Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2011, 06:52:05 PM
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>>> Is my memory finally shattering in smithereens or was the National Milk Bar originally between Marks & Sparks and St John's church?

I used to go to the National Milk Bar with the lads from Cwm Place but the only location I can remember it was by the old Princes Cinema in Mostyn Street.  That was about 53 years ago.
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Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2011, 07:13:59 PM
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Do we know the restaurant chain that is going under theTravelodge.
It might not cost a lot to go there....
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Post by: DaveR on December 29, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
THE Welsh Government would back plans by David Cameron for a minimum price for alcohol.

The Prime Minister will overrule Cabinet colleagues to push through plans setting a 40-50p unit floor price in English shops and supermarkets, the Daily Telegaph reported yesterday.

The move is expected to cost drinkers an extra £700m a year and the tax could go to the NHS.

Minimum pricing has the biggest impact on the cheapest and strongest drinks. Leading academics and health experts claimed the move would save thousands of lives.

A Whitehall source told the newspaper: “The Prime Minister has decided that when it comes to alcohol, something pretty radical now has to be done and he is keen on the minimum price. It is complicated how this can be delivered, particularly under European law, but it is clear that the voluntary approach has not worked.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson said: “We would like to see a minimum price per unit of alcohol introduced in Wales. While we believe that the case for the introduction of a minimum price remains strong, the power to introduce such measures in Wales lie with the UK Government. We requested power to legislate on alcohol licensing but this was rejected by the UK Government. This would have enabled us to take action to introduce our own controls.”

First Minister Carwyn Jones said last month: “If you have different prices either side of the border, people will just cross the border to buy alcohol on the other side. It would be far more effective if the same policy were to be adopted in England, Scotland and Wales.”

The cost of alcohol disease is around £70-85m a year to NHS Wales and 1,000 deaths.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/12/29/welsh-government-backing-for-minimum-price-for-alcohol-55578-30026700/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/12/29/welsh-government-backing-for-minimum-price-for-alcohol-55578-30026700/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on December 29, 2011, 12:07:32 PM
The National Milk Bar back in the 50's and 60's was where the empty shop next to the Word is now.  We thought we were frightfully sophisticated going to "the Nash for a  coff" when we were in the 4th form!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 29, 2011, 01:06:48 PM
That's the place Llechwedd, in the 60's we had a rivalry with the Venezia Coffee Bar and in the Winter of 1963 we rolled a giant snowball into the Venezia.
It was massive and took about 7 of us to push it and it blocked the glass doors to the coffee bar.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on December 29, 2011, 08:33:53 PM
we used to go in the local milk bar in brynteg, glass of milk shake and a threepenny bit in the juke box or you could put a tanner in and get three plays. mid 50s
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 02, 2012, 02:27:57 PM
Llandudno is really busy with people today, just as busy as a Summer's day in fact. Yet quite a few of the smaller cafes and shops are closed - will these be the same businesses complaining about poor trading later this year, I wonder?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
Roadside restaurant chain Little Chef has confirmed it is closing 67 of its 161 outlets, resulting in the loss of up to 600 jobs.

Bosses broke the news to staff across the UK on Wednesday. Almost a third of the workforce will be cut while less than 100 branches will remain open. The troubled restaurant chain fell into administration in 2007 but it was saved by private equity firm RCapital. The turnaround group bought the majority of the business and assets - saving 193 of the 235 restaurants, and more than 3,500 jobs. In 2008 Michelin-starred chef Heston Blumenthal was hired to try and revive the business but so far his menu is available in only ten Little Chef restaurants.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 11, 2012, 12:47:44 PM
Little Chef, another outmoded business model.
Serving very average and unimaginative fodder at ludicrous high prices.

Wherever you see a Little Chef, a KFC or McDonalds is close by... and hoovering up all the trade.

In the 70's, if you were on a long jouney, you had little option but to stop and have a Little Chef meal.
But as more and more choice became available, Little Chef stood still.... and eventual closure is the price they will pay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on January 11, 2012, 02:18:50 PM
I agree with Fester, it is many years since I have set foot in one, but I well remember the poor menu and very high prices.  As he said, in those days there was little option, but I would rather go hungry than pay their prices for a small uninteresting meal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 11, 2012, 02:22:55 PM
We stopped going in them many years ago, vastly overpriced and rubber mushrooms!  For many years now we take our own food and drink with us when we go out for the day  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 11:20:32 PM
For a chain that had a reputation for high prices (its not nicknamed the 'Little Thief' for nothing), Little Chef suffered from lack of consistency in its food offering. You could go to one, have a decent enough if pricey meal with good service, then go to another one for a similar meal and receive both very poor food and service. If you charge a premium price, you have to deliver a premium offering on a consistent basis or people will go elsewhere. The Heston Blumenthal rebranded Little Chefs are very good but most of the others are tired and struggling.

I'm sorry to see them struggling, a visit there was always regarded as a treat when I was a kid and they are a bit of a British icon.
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Post by: TheMedz on January 12, 2012, 01:54:15 AM
Not totally related but my one abiding memory of going to a Little Chef was in 1998  near Newbury on the way to a family holiday in France. The only reason I can remember it was the headline in the red top newspaper when we were having breakfast in there. It was the day after George Michael was arrested for looking for company in a a gents toilets and the infamous headline of "Zip me up before you go go".  Strange how some things stick in your mind!
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Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2012, 11:32:54 AM
STAFF at one of the country’s top cafe bar chains are in high spirits.

The Fat Cat group celebrates its 20th anniversary on Friday, having started the brand in North Wales on January 20 1992.

The Derby-based company, which has premises in Llandudno, Wrexham and Chester, opened its first bar in Bangor.

The Gwynedd venue was the first of 14 bars and restaurants and opened in its original location on the high street.

Managing director Matt Saunders and financial director Simon Patterson resided above the bar during its first years before expanding to Chester and Nottingham.

To celebrate this landmark achievement, the Fat Cat is holding a 20th birthday party on Friday at its Derby base, though every branch will be celebrating with offers and music from the early 1990s.

Matt told Business Post: “We have seen enormous changes within the pub and restaurant sector as well as the economy as a whole over the past 20 years.

“During this time both the business and the Fat Cat brand has evolved enormously to become the entity that it is today, whilst staying true to its core values of serving great food and drink at good value for money in a stylish and safe environment.”

Since 1992 the firm has opened further sites in London, the Midlands, across Wales and the north west.

“During 2007 a number of our sites underwent refits in order maintain the high standards,” added Matt.

“Over a period of two years during 2010/11 an additional six sites received substantial investment in both customer areas and back of house.

“The Fat Cat has been at the forefront of radical changes to the pub industry, constantly innovating in order to satisfy increasingly sophisticated customer demands for food and drink and the atmosphere in which to enjoy it. The big brewers are now also introducing well-executed concepts within the sector, making the industry a most exciting one to be a part of, both as a customer and an operator.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2012/01/18/cafe-bar-group-celebrates-20-years-at-the-top-55578-30144728/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2012/01/18/cafe-bar-group-celebrates-20-years-at-the-top-55578-30144728/)
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Post by: Nemesis on January 19, 2012, 10:44:05 AM
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/01/19/the-albion-pub-in-conwy-set-to-reopen-in-early-february-55243-30151085/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/01/19/the-albion-pub-in-conwy-set-to-reopen-in-early-february-55243-30151085/)

Specially for Pendragon !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2012, 11:21:22 AM
The Albion was looking good last Saturday  :)

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 19, 2012, 12:57:36 PM
Word has reached me that the 'list of issues' which were preventing the opening of Caffe Nero has now been progressed 'very smoothly.'  It was quite an extensive list apparently.

No further obstacles are anticipated, but as yet still no firm date has been given for opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2012, 01:05:18 PM
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Word has reached me that the 'list of issues' which were preventing the opening of Caffe Nero has now been progressed 'very smoothly.'  It was quite an extensive list apparently.

No further obstacles are anticipated, but as yet still no firm date has been given for opening.
A revised Planning Application has just been submitted:

Location: 81 Mostyn St Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Received Date : 22/11/2011
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 12/01/2012
Team: Major Applications Team
Proposal: Listed Building Consent to make good existing shopfront, fix new signage and shopfit interior.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
Lights on and building activity under way again in Caffe Nero today.
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Post by: Paddy on January 20, 2012, 05:12:33 PM
Where is this Caffee Nero that keeps being mentioned on here?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2012, 05:15:46 PM
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6034/6250595097_ed93e91d92_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6250595097/)
Gone For A Burton (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6250595097/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Fester on January 20, 2012, 05:18:07 PM
Paddy.... that picture from Dave was your answer by the way!  In case you were wondering.
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Post by: martin on January 23, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
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Lights on and building activity under way again in Caffe Nero today.
Just been down there, no activity/lights at all, what has been done is the installation of large boards around what was the entrance. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
Planning Permission has not yet been granted, so maybe Fester saw some work being carried out in connection with the small shop next door that is also being refurbished.

There were workmen in both Diskos and Hoosons today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
What I saw in Caffe Nero was about four blokes in high-vis jackets, doing something under arc-lights.

Strangely though, they were not there long, and I have not seen any activity since.
Maybe they were assessing work to date / surveying the next stage?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2012, 10:53:29 AM
That's interesting, Sara, thanks for sharing.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 29, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
Tonight Mrs Fester and I had a very pleasant meal at Home Cookin', in Upper Mostryn Street.

I have never before had a full meal there, just a breakfast a few years ago.
Nevertheless, I often see patient queues waiting outside, so I expected that it would be OK at least.

I was never quite sure if Home Cookin' was a restaurant or a posh cafe, but now I have decided that it is a Bistro.

It didn't disappoint.  We both went for identical choices so the review is pretty straightforward.

Starter was natural smoked haddock, with a soft poached egg...and the trimmings.  Very tasty indeed.

We both went to for the 'top of the bill', Sirloin Steak, Peppercorn Sauce, mushroom, tomato etc... just perfect.

A couple of bottles of house white wine, and a slice of chocolate fudge cake with ice cream... a perfect way to round off.

We will definitely be back to Home Cookin', as the quality is excellent, and the prices were on average £5 for a starter and £8 for a main course (not the Sirloin Steal obviously) ....  very much affordable for such good fayre and pleasant atmosphere.  $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 29, 2012, 10:41:32 PM
Sounds good, do they do vegetarian food?

We had lunch out yesterday in Conwy a very pleasant  tuna melt toasted sandwich, very tasty at the Pen y Bryn tea rooms, well worth a visit $dins$

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:44:02 PM
Your meal at Home Cookin sound really nice Fester and I'm glad you enjoyed it.  We've been there a few times and always had a nice meal but we tend to go more to their other place in Penrhyn Bay called Home from Home Cookin.  It's very good and they have a delicious menu lined up for Valentine's night.   It's so good there that I feel sorry for any other cafe/ bistro business setting up in Penrhyn Bay, they'll find stiff competition with Home  from Home Cookin
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on January 30, 2012, 04:48:12 PM
We are well blessed with so many good eateries to suit all tastes and pockets.
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Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
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We are well blessed with so many good eateries to suit all tastes and pockets.

You're right Cambrian, we've also booked for the Thai Restaurant called "Sixth Sense" in Deganwy and will book for the  Watson's Bistro in Conwy as we've had good reports about both of them.     $dins$       
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on January 30, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
Prompted by Hugo's comment re Home Cookin, I had a look at the Food Standard Agency's website which gives details of the food hygiene standard ratings - commonly known as "Scores on the Doors".  Readers can find this on http://ratings.food.gov.uk (http://ratings.food.gov.uk)
You can put in "Llandudno" (or whatever) and up comes all the relevant establishments with their scores from 1 to 5.  Some very interesting results for one or two of our hotels and restaurants.  Don't worry Hugo, Home Cooking got a 5!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 30, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
It's also in our Useful Links (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,325.0.html) page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
We have eaten in Home from Home (Penrhyn Bay) before too.
But I find that the dining experience in the Llandudno branch is superior.
Penryhn Bay one is a little bright and less comfortable IMHO.

But both are excellent and offer first class food for reasonable prices.

We will be back to both of them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 30, 2012, 06:09:56 PM
where we had lunch yesterday only scored 2, improvement needed  :o  No panic though we have no ill effects, I won't name it but it was a free lunch in Porthmadog, no great surprise to me really!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 30, 2012, 07:10:14 PM
the food can be lovely , BUT if your bookwork is not up to date thats where you lose on the scores
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2012, 07:34:15 PM
Work seems to be well underway again on Caffe Nero, there were workmen painting the outside today and lots going on inside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 30, 2012, 07:46:48 PM
DAVE WHATS GOING IN THE SHOP NEXT TO JD, WORKMEN IN THEIR TODAY, HOPE FESTER DID,NT HAVE TO WAIT LONG IN THE PUB FOR YOU LOL
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Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
The Pioneer thinks Caffe Nero will be open by mid February.
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Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2012, 06:03:28 PM
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Caffee Nero's marketing department say they expect to open mid to late February but can't give a definite date yet.
I was looking at Caffe Nero today and could see that work is well advanced inside, with the counter in place and the first fix of the electrics completed. I was also pleased to see that they have stripped the paint off the window frames and little round ventilators to reveal the polished brass underneath - good to see them making the effort to do a good job.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
I also noticed today that all the paint has been cleaned from the first floor windows above Caffe Nero, it seems that they are intending to use it as an additional seating area. What with the ground floor, first floor and the large number of tables they intend to have outside, it will certainly be pulling custom from the other coffee shops.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 05, 2012, 06:51:15 PM
DaveR, will Caffe Nero be allowed to put tables and chairs outside

If so, from your knowledge will they be in or out of the sunshine for most of the day?
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 07:07:36 PM
Bri, you've picked the right man to ask about sitting outside cafes in the sunshine!  :laugh:

On the Mostyn Street side, they own the pavement up to the edge of where the canopy would have been (same curtilage as H Samuel next door). On the St Georges Place side, they own the pavement right up to the Phone box  and along to the empty shop next door - a considerable area! On a Summer's day, both frontages of Caffe Nero will be in sunshine for most of the afternoon, with the Mostyn St side getting the sunshine for longest.

They're going to be raking it in...

 $cofffee$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 05, 2012, 07:56:25 PM
What a shame we didn't think about that first? $sunny$
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
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What a shame we didn't think about that first? $sunny$
Indeed...  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
You've reminded me that I, erm, just happened to have the Land Registry Record for the Caffe Nero site - its shows the extent of pavement area that they can put their tables out on (ignore the bit outside the small shop next door though):
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Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2012, 10:55:55 AM
Agreed. Burtons always felt like a pokey little shop for such a prominent location.

I'm encouraged by the attention to detail that Caffe Nero are showing so far to the design of their premises.
 
Here's an article that details some of their pricing as of Sept last year:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/poll/2011/sep/23/store-wars-caffe-nero-starbucks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/poll/2011/sep/23/store-wars-caffe-nero-starbucks)

One thing that is interesting is their Reward Scheme - Buy 9 coffees and get the 10th free.
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Post by: wrex on February 06, 2012, 04:46:27 PM
That just leaves Travelodge to begin,then we hope somebody comes in for the Tudno Castle now its up for sale.the station is still a  way of being sorted but you never know it may be this year.Whopeeeeee.No i will not go as far as saying the town council will put xmas lights up because that will be going too far.
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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 09:04:01 AM
Work will be commencing on the Clarence Hotel conversion into a Travelodge in 2 weeks time if CCBC pull their finger out and get the planning paperwork sorted.. Work will take approx one year to complete.
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Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
Caffe Nero are now advertising for staff:
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Post by: wrex on February 09, 2012, 05:29:13 PM
Cash Converters advertising for a manager in Llandudno,not sure if they mean Colwyn Bsy or they are opening a store in town.
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Post by: hollins on February 10, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
We had lunch today at the Kinmel Arms, very nice but what a shame that they have had their view completely blocked by a huge newly built house right in front of it. There must be a tale to tell here. All one side of the new property is boarded up front and back and looks a real eyesore.
Parked next to a very nice looking Maserati with a red leather interior.
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Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Never been to the Kinmel Arms but heard good things about it. That little stub of a road its on used to be a public road that carried on and joined up with the back road to St Asaph until the Estate Owner blocked it off when Kinmel Hall was built. Couldn't possibly have ordinary people travelling through the Estate!
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Post by: dwsi on February 10, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
The house in front of the Kinmel Arms is old house that has been extended http://g.co/maps/ztrtf (http://g.co/maps/ztrtf)
The work has been going on for years
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Post by: Fester on February 11, 2012, 12:24:23 AM
Mrs Fester and I had a meal in The Kinmel Arms about 18 months ago, it is a superb pub with beautiful features.
The food was excellent, but a bit pricey to be a regular thing.

Our table looked out at the building site which you photograph clearly depicts.  We couldn't believe that planning permission was granted for it.   Maybe it wasn't?
I am sure that no progress has been made in the last 18 months.
Get Dean Seager on the job, he'll get it finished.  :)

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Post by: Michael on February 11, 2012, 10:18:07 AM
The Kinmel Arms has changed hands many times over the last 30 years and I may have mixed up some of the ex owners. I haven't seen this "new" bit of building, but I imagine it is an extension to the original house built around 1977 by the owners of the Kinmel Arms at that time, a mr Frazier and his wife Dorcis. Mr Frazier was from Birmingham, the eldest brother of three men, Clifford owning inter leisure camp in Towyn assisted by Geoffrey.
Prior to this house being built, Harry Swallow was the landlord and he had an aviary on part of the grounds. Harry Swallow, another real Rhyl style entrepreneur already ran the Palace Hotel in Rhyl.
After that, in quick succession, came Stewart Ellis, owner of Palins camp, a man whose name I cannot recall but he was a young retired health official from England somewhere, and then probably the present owners.mike
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Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
Workmen were still busy inside the new Caffe Nero when I went past at 4.50pm tonight. Must be keen to get it open.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted.
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Post by: DaveR on February 12, 2012, 04:07:09 PM
Workmen busy inside Caffe Nero on a Sunday!
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Post by: Bosun on February 13, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
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Post by: Fester on February 13, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
Ahoy there Bosun!  $good$

Welcome to the Forum, and thats great news about The Albion!
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Post by: wrex on February 15, 2012, 06:39:20 PM
Looks like Take a break are extending into part of Hooson;s
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Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2012, 01:02:38 PM
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Looks like Take a break are extending into part of Hooson;s
Indeed!

Location: 96 Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2SW
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Change Build Use
Received Date : 30/01/2012
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 10/02/2012
Team: Minor Applications Team
Proposal: Change of Use from an A1 Perfume shop to an A3 cafe/restaurant to include internal alterations

How many cafes and coffee shops can Llandudno stand before something gives...?
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Post by: Blongb on February 16, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
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Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
Went to Conwy this morning to give the Bus Pass a run out. Weather was a bit iffy so thought of Bosun's comments on the Albion and decided to give it a try. 12:05 pm doors locked lights off and no sign of life. Thats not the way to get customers. If they keep it up they will soon be out of business
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Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2012, 06:01:41 PM
Work on the conversion of Burtons into Caffe Nero is reaching a peak, there must have been 20 contractors on site today:
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Post by: Fester on February 16, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Work is reaching a CRESCENDO,   ....Maybe even a CAPPUCCINO!   $cofffee$
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Post by: hollins on February 16, 2012, 06:14:41 PM
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Work on the conversion of Burtons into Caffe Nero is reaching a peak, there must have been 20 contractors on site today:


When I walked past the other day they were all sat on the floor in the window eating cakes! $dins$
I was dying to take a photo but I didn't dare.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 16, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
You could have sold it to Gregs ! ;D
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Post by: Tillymint on February 16, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
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Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
Went to Conwy this morning to give the Bus Pass a run out. Weather was a bit iffy so thought of Bosun's comments on the Albion and decided to give it a try. 12:05 pm doors locked lights off and no sign of life. Thats not the way to get customers. If they keep it up they will soon be out of business
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Post by: Tillymint on February 16, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
Messed my reply up re the Albion being closed. Sorry. Too much vino  Z**

I don't think they open until 5pm.

Even though it is half term week it will not be worth opening any earlier. Too many pubs and not enough customers even if they served food.

Been there and got the t shirt
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Post by: Bosun on February 17, 2012, 06:44:21 AM
On the couple of evenings this week in the early evening that I have been in the Albion, they have had more customers than you would normally see in a pub at that time, especially at this time of year, and they say they are getting of to an excellent start. The beer remains consistently good, the open fires lit and a decent welcome from the staff. Very pleasant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 19, 2012, 03:53:45 PM
The Grand Opening of Fry-Days Fish and Chip Shop at 101 Llandudno Road, Penrhryn Bay will be on Friday, 24 February.

This was Pedro's 101 Cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Llechwedd we need to know what sort of restaurant is coming to the old Burger King,you need to dig a bit more lol.
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Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2012, 10:02:02 PM
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Llechwedd we need to know what sort of restaurant is coming to the old Burger King,you need to dig a bit more lol.
Yes, good point, Wrex!
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Post by: DaveR on February 22, 2012, 06:21:04 PM
All the local Peacocks stores are staying open.

Caffe Nero is ready to open:
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
Sorry Wrex the short term memory has gone.  The woman in CC told me a name like Ben and Jerry but not them obviously as it's to be a "posh" restaurant not an ice cream shop.
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Post by: SDQ on February 23, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
Frankie & Benny's?
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Post by: Yorkie on February 23, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
Laurel and Hardy's ?   $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
Caffe Nero's opening has now been put back till next Tuesday.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2012, 03:57:52 PM
??
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Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 08:49:01 PM
Some exclusive photos taken inside the new Caffe Nero:
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Post by: Nemesis on February 24, 2012, 08:26:26 AM
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Caffe Nero's opening has now been put back till next Tuesday.

Any reason ?
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 09:07:58 AM
Staff training.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 24, 2012, 10:26:59 AM
For the last couple of weeks, The Sunday Times have been providing vouchers for a FREE macchiato at Caffe Nero which are valid until 3 March 2012.  $good$

Hopefully, there will be a third for me this Sunday.  $cofffee$
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 11:50:00 AM
This has been noted, Bri...  $good$  ;D

 $cofffee$
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Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 04:56:49 PM
Caffe Nero has just opened and all drinks are free for today only.  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
Quite a pleasant view when sitting on the first floor of Caffe Nero:
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Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
Treated myself to Fish (cod) and Chips at Frydays in Penrhryn Bay this evening.  Nice clean pleasant shop with a small (20 seater) dining room that cannot be viewed from the Counter sales area.

Not over impressed with the result of my purchase.  Batter was nice and thin but falling off the fish so could have done with a bit more substance to it.   Chips were big and chunky but the size resulted in some of them being undercooked.  Pleasant staff, prices may shock a few of the Senior Citizens who live in the area.

Only two choices of fish, Cod or Haddock - I prefer Plaice or Skate.

As the 'plaice' has only been open since last Friday I will let them get up to speed before I try again.   Wonder if they will start serving deep fried Mars Bars?    _))*

 ££$ to them.

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Post by: TELL on February 27, 2012, 10:36:21 PM
Back in beautiful Llandudno after many months overseas.
On Sunday I had a walk along the pier. It was packed with happy people.
I see the gulls are still mugging people for their chips.
One sour note. I had a £1.80 coffee sitting on the end of the pier. I think it was the most horrible
"coffee" I have had in my life, God knows what they make it from!
Still, it is wonderful to be back! You don't know how lucky you are living here.
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Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
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One sour note. I had a £1.80 coffee sitting on the end of the pier. I think it was the most horrible
"coffee" I have had in my life, God knows what they make it from!
I couldn't agree more. It's terrible quality, I prefer to walk back into town to get a coffee rather than get one from the Pierhead cafe.  :(
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Post by: born2run on February 27, 2012, 11:13:29 PM
£1.80!!! Must be mad. If it tasted delightful I'd still be annoyed at that price :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 27, 2012, 11:32:27 PM
B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80. 
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Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2012, 08:15:51 AM
It's not 1974 anymore, B2R....  :D  ;)  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on February 28, 2012, 11:23:46 AM
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B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80.

Half the stuff they class as coffee is like warm water to me! I'd rather walk home!---or take a flask! ;D Very strong and black, looks like tar !
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Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2012, 05:28:48 PM
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B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80.

Excellent coffee, Cappicino, Latte etc at £1.35 at Cafe Dewi,  St David's Hospice.  Plenty of well known people gather there!    ;D
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Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2012, 07:08:07 PM
After a couple of beers with Fester, I've just walked past Caffe Nero and its still open - what time do they close?

Also workmen were still busy in Sainsburys.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on February 29, 2012, 03:54:21 PM
Good timing of your photo from Cafe Nero , DaveR.  That's me in the black coat & red  scarf  :-*
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Post by: TheMedz on February 29, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
A typical Llandudno street scene. The Silver Peugeot in the foreground of your photo (which seems to be displaying a disability permit) apart how many cars can you spot illegally parking.
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Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 07:21:58 PM
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A typical Llandudno street scene. The Silver Peugeot in the foreground of your photo (which seems to be displaying a disability permit) apart how many cars can you spot illegally parking.

Possibly only one, because the others are moving I think.
I know what you are DRIVING at though, I have never known a town like it for double parking.
Particularly in Upper Mostyn St.  Its dangerous coming down there most days.
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Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
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Good timing of your photo from Cafe Nero , DaveR.  That's me in the black coat & red  scarf  :-*
Really? I'd have bought you a coffee if I'd have known.  ;)

 $cofffee$
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Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:40:09 PM
Fester and I paid a late afternoon visit to Caffe Nero today. I had a Earl Grey and Fester had a Cappucino. I also had the Meatball Panini, which was excellent. It was very pleasant sitting on the sofas in the window watching the world go past. In fact, we were so relaxed that we ordered another round of drinks so we could stay there longer.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
Work is also well underway to gut the interior of the former Clarence Hotel prior to its conversion into a Travelodge:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on March 01, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Dave, Next time I am passing I am going to look for you sitting in the window(with your camera), that way I will recognise you   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
Just having a refreshing cup of tea in Caffe Nero after a hard day's photographing over on the Lleyn Peninsula - very busy in here.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 04, 2012, 05:11:14 PM
Popped in there with the Mrs this afternoon just to have a coffee and see what the place had to offer.  Very busy but despite the crowd managed to say hello to a Forum Member and another couple of friends.

One complaint (there has to be one)  - Can't sample the upper floor due to the stairs - wonder if they will create a disabled access.  Fortunately we found a downstairs table!    Z**

Nice coffee and at a reasonable price for a High Street location.    D)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 05, 2012, 04:53:55 PM
I enjoyed a coffee and my missus a hot chocolate this afternoon in Caffe Nero.

We sat downstairs and just to the left when you first walk in.

Both drinks were very nice indeed.

However, my missus reminded how I have always not wanted to look like a dummy in Burton’s window and guess what...........?   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2012, 06:17:42 PM
I was also in there this afternoon (must have just missed you, Bri) and another two forum members walked in as I sat down. We shall have to start holding Forum Meetups in there at this rate...  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 05, 2012, 06:26:35 PM
Very pleasant it is too! We finally found the time to call in this afternoon!  $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 05, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
Apparently Costa are now opening in town,either in the old JD Sports shop or could be Burger King.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 06, 2012, 01:07:23 AM
As far as Costa is concerned, there is already one in Parc Llandudno.... but the new one will be a franchise in the redeveloped Clarence Hotel, (Travel Lodge).   Or so I hear??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 06, 2012, 12:38:09 PM
I am hearing there is another Caff'e moving into the old Gimberts shop upper mostyn street  opposite Listers how much coffee can we drink!! any thoughts
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Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
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Apparently Costa are now opening in town,either in the old JD Sports shop or could be Burger King.
Its certainly not in the former Burger King.  ;)
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Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
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I am hearing there is another Caff'e moving into the old Gimberts shop upper mostyn street  opposite Listers how much coffee can we drink!! any thoughts

We shall be floating away if we aren't careful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on March 06, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
Well, any quality business moving in is a good thing and Llandudno has always had lots of cafes and coffee shops, like most seaside resorts.

Would the concession in Travel Lodge not be rather large? I was under the impression two businesses were moving in there (a shop and a restaurant), so where would the Costa go? Inside the reception?

I think that Gimbert's becoming a coffee shop would be acceptable. I think Upper Mostyn Street should move over to a hospitality/nightime economy. I know there are complaints from residents, but better to have things like that in one area and there has been a concentration of pubs up there for decades.

Is it Frankie and Benney's going into the BK? I think I read that somewhere perhaps upthread. What does the Nero's look like from the outside and in? Good quality? I don't live in Llandudno itself, so haven't seen it so far.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 06, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
I don't believe the former Burger King has the floor space for a Frankie and Bennies. Their units are normally purpose built and are able to service a significantly large footfall.
They prefere out of town retail parks which provide sufficient car parking.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Lots of footfall during the day and perfect for parking at nite
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2012, 07:46:04 PM
http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/frankie_benny_s_chiquito_and_garfunkel_s_owner_plans_to_create_600_new_jobs_1_1223718 (http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/frankie_benny_s_chiquito_and_garfunkel_s_owner_plans_to_create_600_new_jobs_1_1223718)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2012, 10:34:20 AM
I'm told that the main work shortly to begin on the Clarence Hotel will mean that the entire pavement on that side of Gloddaeth Street will be blocked off completely, with no pedestrian access being available on that side of the road. Instead, they are going to keep the three parking spaces outside the Clarence in operation.

Seems crazy to me. Why not lose the parking spaces and have the pedestrian walkway there? It's a busy pavement in the Summer, the closure will hit local traders hard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 10, 2012, 02:02:47 PM
Anybody noticed Colwyn Bays brand new shop.
   No, it's not another cafe, nor a charity shop.
       It's all nicely painted up inside and out, lovely shining windows.

         It's a ----- wait for it -----  the Accident Claim Centre.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 10, 2012, 04:49:13 PM
"Gimberts A Cafe".
The owners must have extreemely deep pockets or are they just simply MAD.
That area is saturated with cafes, even The Fountain and The London operate as fully fledged cafes during the day time.. Not to mention Home Cooking, Coonys, Little Deli, Fat Cat, and even the chemist-Hoosons_ is to be developed as a cafe. Then round the corner is the Orient Express, and the place next to the Carlton. And they are all whinging as to how quiete is is up there.
the pot of Gold seems to have moved to St Georges place, there you have Nero, Cafe Culture, The coffee Centre, Ham bone, and it seems the town is moving south towards Bog Island and the new shops. there is even a cafe going into the Clarence Hotel. Yes we will be floating in it soon, Maybee it is our Tsunami of coffee . You must be able to sell something other than coffee teas and food these days. what I don't know. Oh what about the Castle hotel Bet that is another cafe in 12 months. 
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Post by: mull on March 11, 2012, 12:34:52 AM
As long as mugs will keep paying up to £3 or more for a cup of hot water more coffee bars will open, they are on a good thing.

Bring back Camp Coffee I say.
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Post by: wrex on March 11, 2012, 07:30:31 AM
As we all know some places would never be used by us the locals and only survive on tourists,there are at least 10 places i would never dream of going in and if you check on CCBC HIT LIST MOST OF THEM ONLY GET 2 OUT OF 5 .There are a lot of good places to eat and drink and those who look after their premises will be used by us and maybe the others may die but there is always others who will have a go.
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Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2012, 09:00:44 AM
Business is business. The best will survive, others will fall by the wayside.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2012, 09:31:57 AM
Survival of the fittest, applies to everything!
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 11, 2012, 10:23:57 AM
I'm inclined to agree with Ronald McDonald If I was going to open a cafe I would not open it in an area  that would leave me surrounded by competition. Some of them are very good at what thee do and some of them are very mercenary. you only need to look around to see who are the winners and loser's or plodders who just plod along paying the rent $
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Post by: Yorkie on March 11, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
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Bring back Camp Coffee I say.


Ooooooh!  I say!   You are awful, but I like you anyway!    L0L
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Post by: Fester on March 11, 2012, 01:46:55 PM
CAMP coffee eh?
Sounds like something Dave would like!  :laugh:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 11, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Why?

Is DaveR a boy scout?
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Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
Just another of Fester's "hilarious" attempts at humour.....  &shake&
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Post by: hollins on March 11, 2012, 05:41:34 PM
I was treated to a delicious birthday lunch today at Bodysgallen Hall.
Starter of home cured salmon, then roast rib of beef and rhubarb crumble. It was all good but especially the beef and the horseradish sauce!

 $dins$

A great place to go for a real treat with really good service.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on March 11, 2012, 05:47:11 PM
A bet Gimbets is a Bar within 12 months

My mum made a cake with camp coffee once Never Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 12, 2012, 07:24:59 PM
The problem with the CCBC Hits List or otherwise known as scores on the doors is this.
You can have a wonderfully clean operation but if your Diary is not up to date then you will not score more than 2 out of 5. and of course they will return upon your request to re audit with in 6 weeks to 12 weeks for a fee £250.00 i believe
so they return and you score 5 out of 5 this means they will not return for another 18 months to 2 years as the return visit is time scales to the score level meanwhile you could have let your kitchen laps back to its original state especially if your staff have changed and they don't like cleaning.
I noticed the other day the old Navy club has a score of 5 . must be very clean bar, glass shelves, barrels, pool tables pool balls tv's Etc.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2012, 07:40:37 PM
Oddly enough, when I visited Chester the other week, I noticed that a few of the proliferation of cafes and coffee shops that I had noticed on my previous visit last year had closed.

We can perhaps expect a similar situation in Llandudno in a year or so. In a situation like this, it will be the owners with the deepest pockets (or canniest marketing abilities) that survive. Those that are complacent will pay the price, sadly.

Hmmm...Hoosons Corner cafe...interesting....  ;)
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Post by: Nemesis on March 12, 2012, 09:21:50 PM
As you say--- very interesting! ;)
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 09:37:59 AM
Yes thats right there are a lots of cafes and small catering operations closed in chester over the past 12 months I agree  it will be interesting to see how hoosons corner will do.  As for the gimberts they will open next to the london who I believe are financially backed by a very large brewery who will no doubt invest if the need be . and they will also be opening opposite the fountain which we all know is owned by local business man and entrepreneur S D who will pour money into the fountain and cause both hoosons and gimberts a few sleepless nights.
mmmmmmmmmm..... interesting on both thoughts  ..only time will tell . I think as the economy tightens only the strong will survive.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 09:49:07 AM
Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
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Post by: Ian48 on March 13, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
Does anyone know what sort of cafe is planned for Gimberts (i.e. chain, cafe restaurant, more of a bar, locally-owned)?
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:11:44 AM
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Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
I'm saying nothing......  :-X  8)
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Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:12:04 AM
Cant understand the seance here. Someone told me over the weekend that coony was pulling out of the bar opposite the Fountain.
So assuming this cafe bar is to become available at a passing rent of 22K a year completely kitted out with bar kitchen and everything licenced then why take on an empty shop with a rent of 20k a year and then spend all your hard earned cash converting it. some people have lots of romantic ideas but no common sence
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:17:42 AM
I wonder how much a Starbucks Coffee franchise costs these days?

I assume they are a franchise.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 13, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
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Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
I'm saying nothing......  :-X  8)
Nor am I, but you obviously know what I know !!
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:32:47 AM
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Cant understand the seance here. Someone told me over the weekend that coony was pulling out of the bar opposite the Fountain.
So assuming this cafe bar is to become available at a passing rent of 22K a year completely kitted out with bar kitchen and everything licenced then why take on an empty shop with a rent of 20k a year and then spend all your hard earned cash converting it. some people have lots of romantic ideas but no common sence
Indeed. Cooneys was always far too small to be able to turn a decent profit, in my opinion.
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:34:39 AM
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I wonder how much a Starbucks Coffee franchise costs these days?

I assume they are a franchise.
All Starbucks are company owned, they don't allow franchises. They have taken a look at Llandudno though, I believe.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:38:30 AM
Perhaps, we should start a dedicated thread where members can name each and every venue in Llandudno where one can call in and purchase a cup of coffee.

I wonder if the list would grow above twenty.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
That would be a big list, Bri, especially if you included all the hotels that are open for coffee for non-residents. Shall we give it a go?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:46:31 AM
Why not, DaveR?

You start the thread with the first six and I will do my best to add to it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:50:59 AM
Ok....let's start at the top of Mostyn Street and work down.

Fountains  ;)
Kava
Take A Break
Orient Express
Fat Cat
Home Cookin
London
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Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:54:10 AM
Does anyone know what sort of cafe is planned for Gimberts (i.e. chain, cafe restaurant, more of a bar, locally-owned)?


Ive heard Traditional Welsh Tea Rooms Directly opposite Kava Cafe
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Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:55:27 AM
Local Mad Business People
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:00:05 AM
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Fountains  ;)
Kava
Take A Break
Orient Express
Fat Cat
Home Cookin
London

Carlton?
Caffe Nero
Café Culture
Fortes
Coffee Centre
M&S

13
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:03:27 AM
Cafe Indulgence (Clonmel Street)
Cadwaladars
Cafe in Indoor Shopping Centre
Cafe in Indoor Market
Kings Arms
Pebble

19
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:03:52 AM
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Local Mad Business People
:laugh:  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
Badgers
Subway
Oriel Mostyn
Albert
Osborne House
Empire Hotel
Habit
Take a Break

27

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:18:52 AM
I'm deducting Take a Break as I've mentioned it already.  :P

Cafe Monet, Vaughan Street
Costa Coffee
Caffi Cais
Juice Bar
Gerrards
Coffee at Waterstones
Cafe Express
Hambone
Top Table
Greenery
Cocoa House

37
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:27:18 AM
By the time you include the likes of wetherspoons , Tiffanys. cottage loaf. etc. And as I watch the numbers go up as you add more names to your list I start to think maybee I should become a Coffee Bean distributer or Coffee Barron.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Thanks, Cat, I was beginning to wilt

Wetherspoons
Cottage Loaf
Tiffany Coffee Shop
Clares
Coffee @ Waterstones
West Shore Beach Café
Rest and be Thankful
The Summit Cafe
 
DaveR, what is the name of that quaint coffee shop opposite Lazars in Madoc Street – Vichellos ??

45 or 46 with Vichellos
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
Hoelfra Gardens
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
Asda
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:43:42 AM
Yes, 48

Debenhams
BHS
Barnacles

Is it Café Express next door to HSBC?

52
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:45:45 AM
Its Vecchios in Madoc street. I'd already added in Waterstones and Cafe Express, so must deduct those.

I make that 50 so far.

Happy Valley Cafe
Ski Lodge
Copper Mines Cafe
Grand Hotel Lounge
Coffee Bean (Pier Entrance)
Pierhead Cafe

56

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:50:12 AM
Mostyns (on First Floor by Town House)
Queen Vic, Church Walks (£2.70+ for a Latte!!)

58
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:53:17 AM
After we have completed this exercise we can try and identify the cheapest and most expensive coffee houses in Llandudno.

I suppose there is no reason to exclude the excellent coffee centres within the St Georges Hotel and Imperial Hotel which are always open and patronised by locals

60
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Post by: wrex on March 13, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Cotton Traders have started,not sure they do coffee though
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
If they do, wrex, please let us know.

Where are they situated?

There is Sarah J’s next to the railway station.

My missus says there is another cafe opposite the Town Hall, maybe called 19 or is it now Top Table already mentioned?

and I think there is another in Vaughan Street near to Clinton James. Is that Cafe Monet you already mentioned?

So maybe only 61.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Catlin's at Venue Cymru
Cafe Dewi at St David's Hospice

63
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 12:27:17 PM
OOh...Beach Cafe West Shore
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:31:05 PM
I have already mentioned the West Shore Beach Cafe.

So still 63.
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
We can add in the Lilly at West Shore though, so...

64
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
Don't forget the always excellent Le Gatte in Craig Y Don and Catlins Cafe at Venue Cymru.

66
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:39:07 PM
Sorry, DaveR, but I have already just mentioned Catlin's at Venue Cymru.

So 65.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Magistrates Court Tea Bar.

66   
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Post by: Cambrian on March 13, 2012, 01:12:32 PM
Fish and Chip shop in Ffordd Las

67
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
WRVS Tea Bar in out-patients at Llandudno Hospital.

68
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 01:33:03 PM
Cafe at St Davids Hospice

69
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Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2012, 01:48:55 PM
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Cafe at St Davids Hospice

69

Already mentioned - so 68.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 02:00:17 PM
Any advances on 68..?

If you included all of the hotels that offered coffee, like the Meirion, Ambassador, Chatsworth etc you could probably get to nearly 100
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on March 13, 2012, 02:10:27 PM
What about Kingdom Krafts, the Hub and the Christian youth centre all on Madoc Street and all sell coffee.  Anyone mentioned The Town House (big coffee sign outside) or the Summit Complex cafe or the coffee machine at the Copper Mines?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
Jack, I have already mentioned the Summit Café and DaveR has already included the Copper Mines Café.

Nevertheless, nobody got KFC and I do not think Leopold’s Café in the Mall has been mentioned yet.

So including DaveR’s 3 x named hotels offering coffee to non-residents and Jack’s 3 venues in Madoc Street plus the Town House then to date I make it:-

77
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Post by: SDQ on March 13, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
McDonalds

78
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on March 13, 2012, 05:19:39 PM
Incredible! Who'd have thought there would be so many?

There also a few shops eg Nigel Roberts, that have machines forhot drinks to take out.

Can anyone think of anyother  product that can be bought at as many outlets in town?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
Leopolds Cafe was mentioned by me but I couldn't remember its name, so its 77.

I think we can also add:
The Cambridge (above the old Gareth Roberts Opticians shop)

78
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Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2012, 06:33:27 PM
Has Bofafon Park Farm been mentioned? 
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Post by: dogstail on March 13, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
what about the cafe in the coach park?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 07:15:06 PM
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what about the cafe in the coach park?

DaveR mentioned Café Cais.


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Has Bofafon Park Farm been mentioned?

Nice one, Yorkie

79.



 
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Post by: dogstail on March 13, 2012, 07:19:51 PM
oh right, thanks....I wasn't sure what it was called.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
The Parade, The Kings Head, The Snowdon, The Links, The Washington
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Probably not worth mentioning National Tyres same princilpe as Nigel Roberts
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Post by: wrex on March 13, 2012, 08:03:38 PM
If you want a free coffee just go into First Choice and pretend you are looking for a holiday.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
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The Parade, The Kings Head, The Snowdon, The Links, The Washington

84

That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
If CCBC get wind of this info they will start a local levy on coffee consumed whilst sitting.
On a seriouse note though. It makes me wonder if people planning on opening new or extending existing coffee facilities have really done their home work.
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Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 08:45:11 PM
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If CCBC get wind of this info they will start a local levy on coffee consumed whilst sitting.
As long as they don't charge the end user, I will be fine...  ;)

 $cofffee$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 13, 2012, 10:32:44 PM
Yesterday we were sat upstairs in Caffe Nero looking at the building above Cafe Culture.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0964.jpg)

looks like some work is needed!
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0967.jpg)

and look at how the right hand side of the windows have sagged (some time ago)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0965.jpg)

Lets hope it all stays up!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:01:33 PM
*makes note not to sit in that corner of Cafe Culture in future*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 14, 2012, 07:37:26 AM
I was amazed yesterday at the long list of coffee places in Llandudno.
What about having a forum vote on which are the better/favourite ones?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 15, 2012, 08:02:44 PM
Fountains Bar has had a small extension to its seating area added, along with a new floor and a bit of a paint. Looks much better...  ;)
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Post by: The ONE on March 16, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
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I was amazed yesterday at the long list of coffee places in Llandudno.
What about having a forum vote on which are the better/favourite ones?

About 500 places in Llandudno where you can buy a cuppa coffee.
All 500 are overpriced In my humble opinion.   Most of 'em falling apart, others are poxy hotels.
Others are an afterthought, Waterstones is a book shop, but books don't make money, shall we sell coffee?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Welcome to the forum, The ONE.  $good$

Is there nowhere in Llandudno that you think serves a good cup of coffee? Personally, I think both Caffe Nero and Cafe Culture are pretty good.

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 09:50:37 PM
Costa Coffee is GREAT... apart from the long wait and the messy tables.   

You can't go wrong for value in Weatherspoons, its Lavazza coffee, and only £1.49 for a large one.  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
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its Lavazza coffee, and only £1.49 for a large one.  ;D
The point you miss is this...you can have the finest coffee in the world...but if you have a dopey person making it who doesn't know or care about making good coffee, then you may as well be serving that Nescafe rubbish like they do on the pier.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: The ONE on March 16, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Cafe Culture?  You jest. 
Expensive and poor quality coffee is becoming the culture.

Cafe Nero, reserving judgement, not been in yet. Working away at the moment.  $eu

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Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
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Cafe Culture?  You jest. 
Expensive and poor quality coffee is becoming the culture.
Well, I go in quite a bit and it seems fine to me. Each to their own, I suppose. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
The staff in Cafe Culture are very friendly and quick.... I have a lot of time for them.

Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 16, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
I waited 5 mins for two coffees in Caffe Nero on Monday, both very nice but a long wait, perhaps because they are still learning??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2012, 08:30:57 AM
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Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.


If Caffe Nero start putting tables and chairs outside on the pavement during the Summer then the queue will be longer.

The queue for toilet upstairs will be even longer.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 08:33:13 AM
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Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.


If Caffe Nero start putting tables and chairs outside on the pavement during the Summer then the queue will be longer.

The queue for toilet upstairs will be even longer.
Crossed legs in order then Bri. :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 17, 2012, 08:57:47 AM
Caffe Nero staff have to serve up to 4 customers at once. In addition, they have a very specific method for making coffee, in order to ensure the quality (milk has to be heated to a specific temperature etc), so it will never be as fast as some other coffee shops. The staff in red shirts are trainee baristas and will be slower than the fully trained staff in black shirts.

There's a lengthy article on the Caffe Nero training process and the coffee making process here:
http://web2.ges.gla.ac.uk/~elaurier/cafesite/texts/barista.pdf (http://web2.ges.gla.ac.uk/~elaurier/cafesite/texts/barista.pdf)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 17, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
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If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.

Sacrilege Bri - You would be utterly destroying a long established and well respected British Tradition - that of QUEUING!    L0L     L0L
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Post by: hollins on March 17, 2012, 02:21:24 PM
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If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.


I so agree with you Bri.

I’m afraid you’ve got me started on this one. It should be in the niggles section I suppose but I hate self service.
It has become the norm for coffee shops to get you to queue twice. Once to order and pay and then again to wait to one side until the drink is ready.
All this when all you want to do is sit down and rest your weary feet.
When you are finally given your drink you often have to find your way through tables piled high with other people’s mess. Then you find a table, clear it yourself, wipe the crumbs away from the seat and hope you don’t tread in anything too hideous on the floor.
This happened to me two days ago at Pret a Manger at Cheshire Oaks but also guilty are Costa, Caffe Nero, Starbucks, M&S etc etc.
However it isn’t just this kind of establishment that seems to think the customer should be helping them out on the service side.
My other bug bare is buffet breakfasts. I have stayed at some expensive hotels in my time where I have been obliged to assist them by getting up and down from from seat to collect food from a buffet. The other problem with this is that the “hot food” rarely is.
I travel a lot on my own and buffet meal tables are a logistical nightmare for lone travellers. If you get up to get something, then by the time you get back the table has been cleared because they thought you’d gone.
Another habit I hate when you are on your own is the one they use in the Imperial Hotel for  lunch and the Mostyn Gallery. Their system is you sit down at a table to look at the menu and then you get up from your nice comfy seat in the window with a sea view to place your order at the bar/ counter. You give them your table number only to return to find a lovely old couple sitting in your seat!
Sorry to go on but thank you forum for letting me get this off my chest! GGRRR!!!!
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Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 03:32:40 PM
I have to agree with you there hollins, we have never offered a buffet breakfast, there are plenty of things on the menu ( that's another matter--places who have no menu, but stand and rattle off what they are offering) and after people have made their choices they are served whilst I get on and freshly cook their choice of main course. So many places cook their food at some ungodly hour and either re-heat it or keep it warm. The plates are too hot to handle, so the food is served hot !
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Post by: hollins on March 17, 2012, 03:39:54 PM
I must come and stay at your place. I would like it!
Well done you.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
Thanks ! ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2012, 10:18:19 AM
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I’m afraid you’ve got me started on this one. It should be in the niggles section I suppose but I hate self service.
It has become the norm for coffee shops to get you to queue twice. Once to order and pay and then again to wait to one side until the drink is ready.

EDITED to save bandwidth!

The best place for quality food at a reasonable price and with (normally) fantastic cheerful service is any of the multitude of "Greasy Spoon" cafes around the country.    Transport drivers don't tolerate crap service, or crap food or astronomic prices!   Plenty of excellent establishments all over the country that I could recommend or take you to!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
Any locally, Yorkie?

Caffe Nero looks very smart with its new canopy blinds:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 18, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
We had coffees for only £1 each at Fountains earlier and a free read of the Sunday Newspapers.

No queueing and we saved over £3 if we had visited Caffe Nero.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2012, 06:46:19 PM
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Any locally, Yorkie?

The ones I know tend not to be "in" town.  There is one on the A5 at Cerrydydruddion that I have been into a few times and it has always been freshly cooked and good value.   The car and motor cycle groups tend to stop there and they are quite fussy!

Of course there is also the PONDEROSA on the Horseshoe Pass but that is not really a "greasy spoon".  Had lunch there last week and it was a good portion of steak and ale pie with chips and peas for only £5.50.   Again it is a popular venue for the cars and bikers.   About 30 of my car club will be ending our next hoon around North Wales at the Ponderosa, good place to finish a great driving day.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
I see on Oscar that Take A Break have withdrawn their application to extend through into Hoosons Corner.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2012, 02:40:54 PM
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I see on Oscar that Take A Break have withdrawn their application to extend through into Hoosons Corner.

Wonder if he knows why? :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 20, 2012, 04:19:24 PM
Maybe they read on a local Forum that there are already 1,000's of coffee places in and around Llandudno!
 WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2012, 08:50:50 AM
One place I'd never go to (before this news came to light)...

A MUM tucking in to a takeaway meal ended up with a bleeding gum after it was cut by an inch-long piece of wire which had broken off a frying basket.

Chelsea McEvoy, 20, had just spent £10.40 on food at the Wing Wah Chinese takeaway in Craig y Don, Llandudno, on Monday.

Ms McEvoy, of Lloyd Street, Llandudno, said: “We were celebrating getting a new car – a Volkswagen Polo – and decided to go to the chippy.

“I had chips and gravy in a pot. But the gravy was very dark.


“So when I poured it on to the chips, I didn’t see the wire at first.

“It wedged in the top of my mouth and cut my gum.

“I put my hand in my mouth and saw there was blood.”

She said: “It looks like a staple – it’s awful.

“It’s lucky I didn’t swallow it and it rip my insides. I was so upset and angry. I’m registered disabled. I suffer from epilepsy.

“My daughter Courtney, who is nearly 16 months old, could have swallowed it. I’m so glad I’d just put my little girl to bed.”

Ms McEvoy, who lives with partner Ashley, 23, returned to the chippy, which is about a mile from her home, to complain.

She said the shop assistant said the “chip pan had broken”, gave her a refund and said “Sorry, mate”.

But Ms McEvoy was still unhappy and has now reported the incident to Conwy County Council and urged food hygiene officials to take action.

Yesterday Ken Chan, 52, of the Wing Wah on Mostyn Avenue, Craig y Don, apologised.

He said the wire came off a basket during cooking and admitted it could have been a “danger”.

He added that he is “very sorry”.

Conwy County Council is looking into the matter. A spokesman said: “We can confirm that the Regulatory Services Department has received the complaint and will be investigating.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/03/22/north-wales-mum-found-wire-in-chips-55578-30597250/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/03/22/north-wales-mum-found-wire-in-chips-55578-30597250/)
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 22, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
Im Confused there are pages missing last time I looked i was reading page 50 something
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2012, 01:55:35 PM
The discussion about Shops has been separated off into a different thread:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1490.0.html (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1490.0.html)

 $good$
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Post by: born2run on March 22, 2012, 10:53:31 PM
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Im Confused there are pages missing last time I looked i was reading page 50 something

They cut the shops out of this thread - and... the first cut is the deepest :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
I hear that Fortes have made a few cutbacks amongst their staff.  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 24, 2012, 09:00:06 PM
Strange time of the year for an ice cream business to cut back on staff.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
Wednesday was such a lovely day we decided to go to Plas Maenan just for an afternoon coffee.  The roadworks on the A470 were a pain but it was still worth the effort once we were there.
We sat on the verandah and the views over to the Carneddau are worth seeing.   As we sat a helicopter passed over on it's way towards Conwy and about 15 minutes later a jet flew low down the Conwy Valley in the opposite direction.
The atmosphere was very relaxing and it was so nice taking in everything.  A great way to spend an hour or two and we ended up watching the Rabbits playing in the fields below the car park.
The views are from Cadair Ifan Goch which is just above the Hotel
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Post by: hollins on March 29, 2012, 04:45:46 PM
It looks beautiful Hugo. Keep meaning to go so thanks for the reminder!
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Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2012, 07:40:32 PM
If you go there in May, do the short walk to Cadair Ifan Goch and you'll see a fine display of Bluebells  there and then you can  finish the walk by going for a nice coffee at Plas Maenan.        $cofffee$
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Post by: Cat Stevens on April 01, 2012, 09:55:35 PM
Saw something odd on Friday, The Clarence hotel development has gone quiet there was nobody there no builders it was deserted and the divertion signs have been removed. Now I know travel lodge have problems.....I wonder....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 02, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
Something to do with rules and regulations, unsigned papers, CCBC, Fire service, you name it, it is all whizzing round the district-- someone must know the proper story.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2012, 08:52:24 AM
The fact they went to the trouble of boarding up the front of the building indicates they don't plan to be back for a while...?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 03, 2012, 05:57:58 PM
A rare event took place in Deganwy today. Mr and Mrs Hollins had lunch together in the Quay Hotel, Deganwy.
Husband was dragged kicking and screaming from the garden but he enjoyed it when he got there.
It is such a splendid view from there. the service was good and the food freshly prepared.
Here is a photo of his fish platter.
Have I inspired any non posting members to write a local restaurant review I wonder!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
I've not eaten in the Deganwy Quay Hotel (yet) but its certainly a great place to sit out on the Terrace on a warm evening and watch the sun go down.  $good$
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Post by: hollins on May 03, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
I used to prefer it when the restaurant was open upstairs. They used to do a really good value set lunch menu. I think from memory it was £11.50 for 2 courses. It was a superb room with lovely tables by the windows.
Still good food but not the same bargain now.
Unfortunately it wasn't warm enough to sit out today.
The sunsets must be fabulous from there.
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6140/6198258111_b72970f599_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6198258111/)
Sunset at Deganwy Quay (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6198258111/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Karen and Derek on May 07, 2012, 08:44:44 AM
Beautiful photograph Dave!  :)

Karen.
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2012, 04:13:37 PM
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Beautiful photograph Dave!  :)

Karen.
Thank you.  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2012, 04:16:16 PM
I see St. Davids are now marketing the old Burger King as a potential Coffee Lounge. £39,000 pax rent if you're interested...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on May 13, 2012, 06:30:40 PM
I am very pleased to say I had a first class meal upstairs at the Queen Vic last night. Steak pud was wow. Well done Carol and team.
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Post by: dwsi on May 14, 2012, 09:38:11 PM
Just been published on Washington Nights Facebook page :-

It's with deep regret that we have to inform you that The Washington Nights has ceased Trading as of Today; The building has recently been sold and we were going to continue to trade with a Lease in tact, however the new owners have proven extremely difficult to work with, cutting power illegally as well as other things, making our working lives unrealistic; Therefore we have had to make the sad and very hard decision of closing and leaving staff without a job last minute; This is not how we like to do business but have been left with no other options; We wanted all our loyal customers to hear the truth directly from us - and would like to say a BIG THANK YOU for you custom over the years; WE WILL MISS YOU!!!
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Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
Wow, that's a bit of a shocker but i did think it was odd the other day when they were having a lot of problems with their electricity supply.

Just had a new website done, too:
http://washingtonnightclub.co.uk/ (http://washingtonnightclub.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 10:49:50 PM
Tough time for the Washington's staff, as well, to lose their jobs at such short notice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
I'm told that the Washington building was recently sold lately, with the Leaseholders continuing to run the bar and nightclub. Last Friday, the Leaseholders turned up to find that the building's doors had been barred from the inside and the main electricity supply had been removed. Despite their best efforts, the Leaseholders were unable to reopen and so have vacated the premises. The new owners of the building wish to install an Indian Restaurant, apparently.
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Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
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Tough time for the Washington's staff, as well, to lose their jobs at such short notice.

It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 07:34:36 PM
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It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
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Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2012, 07:39:39 PM
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It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o

I'll have to take your word for it Dave as I've never been that lucky.       :(
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Post by: Pendragon on May 15, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
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It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
Yeah whatever Dave  :roll:  :-*
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
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It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
Yeah whatever Dave  :roll:  :-*
:laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2012, 10:46:59 AM
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I'm told that the Washington building was recently sold lately, with the Leaseholders continuing to run the bar and nightclub. Last Friday, the Leaseholders turned up to find that the building's doors had been barred from the inside and the main electricity supply had been removed. Despite their best efforts, the Leaseholders were unable to reopen and so have vacated the premises. The new owners of the building wish to install an Indian Restaurant, apparently.
I've since been told that the building's owners allegedly repossessed it due to non-payment of rent. That does make sense, as you cant just evict someone if they have a valid lease on a property and non-payment of rent is usually the only real reason a lease would be terminated.
Title: Indian Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on May 16, 2012, 04:15:50 PM
Does anyone know of a good Indian takeaway that will deliver in or around Llandudno?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 17, 2012, 09:32:53 AM
ONE of Llandudno’s best known nightspots has closed suddenly with the loss of more than 20 jobs.

The Washington Nights on East Parade has been bought from Punch Taverns by Fu Lee, owner of Fu’s Cantonese Restaurant in Caernarfon.

It’s unclear what the future of one of the town’s oldest and best known nightspots will be, as the current leaseholder Bijan Sharifian is seeking legal advice after claiming he was forced to cease trading last Friday night.

Mr Sharifian says the electricity was cut off, making it impossible to open. Up to £1,000 worth of food stored in the bar’s freezers was ruined because of the loss of power.

Mr Sharifian said: “We knew The Washington had been sold and we were negotiating with the new owner as we want to continue to run the venue as a nightspot.

“However, we are now having to get legal advice as the electricity was cut off making it impossible for us to trade.

“The building has been partly boarded up and we are being denied access, so at present I just don’t know how feasible it is for us to reopen.

He added: “If we don’t manage it then I’d like to say a big thank you to all the staff, and to all the people who have supported us over the years.”

Some observers believe that the closure of the nightclub will hit the local economy in the near future.

The general manager of the venue, Nicky Jones, said: “We are all really gutted as we’ve all lost our jobs, and it’s going to have a real knock-on effect for the town.

“Local suppliers, doormen, taxi drivers and DJs are all going to feel this, as well as our 20 staff, two of whom were disabled.

“We are still trying to find a way to pay the staff wages as we have lost so much money not being able to trade last weekend.

“We’ve had so many messages of support on Facebook because people are so upset at us having to close.”

David Harris, who worked at The Washington and who has special needs, said: “I waited outside The Washington all alone, it seemed like hours and I got upset and sad.

“I started crying and thought of the years I had been there, I loved working there.”

On Facebook there were dozens of comments. Holly Augood wrote: “Such a shame, The Wash will be missed by many.”

Christine Hughes said: “Gutted! Some amazing memories have been made at the Wash!

“Good luck to everyone for the future!”

Despite numerous attempts to contact Mr Fu Lee, he was unavailable for comment.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/05/17/llandudno-nightspot-the-washington-nights-closes-55578-30986406/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/05/17/llandudno-nightspot-the-washington-nights-closes-55578-30986406/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 26, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
We had lunch today at Tyddyn Llan in Llandrillo. For me this place serves the best food in Wales.
We have had many meals there in the past and not a single course has ever disappointed.
We prefer eating at lunch time which is lucky because on Friday and Saturday the set lunch is £19.50 for two courses and £25.50 for three. This is remarkable when you taste the food and the portions are quite hearty!
It is also a beautiful drive over there especially on a day like today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 10:23:57 AM
Sat outside Lillys yesterday afternoon for a couple,the place was heaving,very nice to see but it is in a brilliant position.One thing baffles me,they have had damage to the right hand side of the roof for over 12 months yet they have had the left hand side re-roofed and seem to have left the damaged side,bamboozled.
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Post by: Trojan on May 27, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
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Sat outside Lillys yesterday afternoon for a couple,the place was heaving,very nice to see but it is in a brilliant position.One thing baffles me,they have had damage to the right hand side of the roof for over 12 months yet they have had the left hand side re-roofed and seem to have left the damaged side,bamboozled.

Yes, I was baffled also. The lower section of roof is covered with black plastic sheeting, but higher up where the tiles are missing there's a visible hole in the roof. I don't know what they do when it rains. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 02, 2012, 03:28:09 PM
What's happening with the Ship at Rhos on Sea? Having pre-booked a table for 1pm today (Saturday) for 3, there was not another customer in the place, no one in the bar and only the 3 of us in the restaurant part. It was said there is a make-over going on but slowly. This place used to be heaving for its carvery especially at weekends.

The carvery meal was however very enjoyable
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 11, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
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Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
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I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
It's rubbish. You can't apply for a Casino licence as new ones are only permitted in certain areas (none in North Wales).

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx (http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 11, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
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I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
It's rubbish. You can't apply for a Casino licence as new ones are only permitted in certain areas (none in North Wales).

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx (http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx)

That's a bit disappointing, I was looking forward to some live poker!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2012, 08:08:31 AM
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That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.

With a new coffee shop now opened in C-y-D and another new coffee shop recently opened in Llwynon Road then the number of establishments in Llandudno where a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it rises to 86.

(I am sorry but I do not know the names of the two new cafes.)

Unless, of course, you know of any cafes that have closed down or any more new ones that have opened up since Caffe Nero.

86
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Post by: Jack on June 13, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
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That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.

With a new coffee shop now opened in C-y-D and another new coffee shop recently opened in Llwynon Road then the number of establishments in Llandudno where a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it rises to 86.

(I am sorry but I do not know the names of the two new cafes.)

Unless, of course, you know of any cafes that have closed down or any more new ones that have opened up since Caffe Nero.

86

Plus the new one on Llewellyn Avenue called Character's Tea House and there is also a cafe under Bonker's Play Centre in the church with no spire at the top of Llewellyn Avenue!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2012, 11:26:12 AM
Jack, my apologies I got confused over Character’s Tea House.

I meant Llewelyn Avenue but I was unaware of a new café at Bonkers Fun Centre so that increases the total to 87.


87
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
Went into the new Caffe V in Craig Y Don yesterday - what an funny little place! We went in, sat down, only about 6 tables inside.  Standard of decoration as a bit ropey, as though it had been done in a rush.Two lads behind the counter. We asked for a menu and was told that everything was 'on the board'. So, we had to get up and go over to look at the board. That didn't take long - the food offer consisted of a few cakes and 3 types of sandwich. So much for my vision of a nice hot lunch!

We ordered coffee & cakes. Coffee arrived, the cakes were deposited still in their cellophane wrapper on the table, no plate or serviette! To be fair, coffee was very good indeed. It would be a good place to sit and look out of the window, but large vinyl stickers block the view at head height - oh dear!

So, we left a touch bemused! I can't help but think they will struggle unless they have a proper food offer.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 14, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
OMG doesn't sound good-- hope the crumbs are cleared between customers. Any plates if you order a sandwich?
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 01:33:14 PM
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OMG doesn't sound good-- hope the crumbs are cleared between customers. Any plates if you order a sandwich?
I think you do get a plate if you buy a sandwich.  :)
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Post by: SDQ on June 14, 2012, 01:57:33 PM
Maybe they're just struggling to get the business started and it could get better as they learn the ropes. Could our roving reporter/reviewer possibly do a follow up visit at a later date?
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Post by: snowcap on June 15, 2012, 12:13:45 AM
how about telling them were they are going wrong, or should we wait until they go under and then tell them?
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Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
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how about telling them were they are going wrong, or should we wait until they go under and then tell them?
Good idea, let me know how you get on.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on June 17, 2012, 07:16:11 AM
Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2012, 08:33:38 AM
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Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
No way! Now that Hoosons Corner is shown as 'To Let' again, could that become another cafe as was originally mooted?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 17, 2012, 08:34:28 AM
Surely not so close to all the others?
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Post by: Paddy on June 17, 2012, 12:56:31 PM
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Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
No way! Now that Hoosons Corner is shown as 'To Let' again, could that become another cafe as was originally mooted?

Looks like our "cafe critics" are going to have to pack in their jobs to get round them all!

I was in Cardiff recently and was amazed by the number of coffee shops on the main streets. It got me wondering if maybe this is the new way to go for high streets around the country? It is surely better than lines of empty shops.
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
It's not sustainable though, is it? More and more coffee shops mean that less will be spent in each, making some unviable as businesses.
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Post by: wrex on June 17, 2012, 06:27:03 PM
It just means the weak will have to up their game or disappear.
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Post by: Llechwedd on June 18, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Wht are there so many tattoo shops suddenly appearing?  There's even one in Deganwy now.  I can understand betting shops as people are desparete to get some more money but tattoos?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
To be frank, I did not think the one in Mostyn Street would survive but it has and there is now one in Madoc Street and another C-y-D.

Obviously, there must be a demand.

I guess from the younger ago group or am I mistaken?
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Post by: FatAndy on June 18, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
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Wht are there so many tattoo shops suddenly appearing?  There's even one in Deganwy now.  I can understand betting shops as people are desparete to get some more money but tattoos?

The tattoo place in Deganwy has been there at least 15 months based on this bit of free publicity (dated 18/02/11) - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/18/north-wales-man-has-ann-robinson-tattoo-55578-28193290/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/18/north-wales-man-has-ann-robinson-tattoo-55578-28193290/)
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Post by: Paddy on June 18, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
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It's not sustainable though, is it? More and more coffee shops mean that less will be spent in each, making some unviable as businesses.

Clearly shops aren't viable either!
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Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
I'm told the former Burger King premises in Mostyn Street has now been let. Piccolinos Italian restaurant in the rumoured tenant.
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Post by: Ian48 on June 25, 2012, 11:12:38 AM
If that's true, that will be great news! Piccolino's food is excellent and they have a great reputation around the Manchester/Chester area.

I do hope it's true, but am not sure there would be enough of a demographic around Llandudno for them. They tend to be found in very wealthy suburbs around Manchester (Hale, Didsbury etc.), so moving to a location in Mostyn Street would be new for them I suspect.

But saying that I suppose there is money around the area and with visitors perhaps they think there is enough.

Still if it happens it'll be a serious shot in the arm for that area as their restaurants are beautiful and just the kind of private investment the town needs. Doubtless we'll get a lot of naysayers saying it's too expensive for Llandudno and locals won't be able to afford it etc. ad infinitum. But I think we already have a lot of mediocre 'Italian' restaurants in town, that charge too much, so to have a really decent Italian eatery would be hugely positive.

But who knows, maybe this is jumping the gun anyway.
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2012, 09:13:45 PM
Lots of activity in the former Burger King in Mostyn Street today.
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Post by: hollins on July 04, 2012, 03:12:11 PM
A bit out of the Three Towns area I know, but a nice run out is the Black Lion in Llanfair TH. Last time we were there they were coping with a flood but all was well today and we had a delicious lunch of chicken and bacon with a mozzarella cheese sauce.
Hope you are not feeling hungry!
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Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 05:26:03 PM
That meal looks yummy!  $dins$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 04, 2012, 05:52:45 PM
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I'm told the former Burger King premises in Mostyn Street has now been let. Piccolinos Italian restaurant in the rumoured tenant.

A couple of tweets earlier today from a certain Mr Flannigan suggest otherwise:

Happy Independence day fellows is it true about who is coming to 72 MostynSt ,watch this space

Begins with C thats all i will say


That is if the former Burger King is number 72.
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Post by: wrex on July 04, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
Costa,hot or cold Bri.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 04, 2012, 09:19:41 PM
By coincidence, Mr Flannigan has already been tweeted:

Did the lease costa lot?  :-D
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Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
Colin says its not Costa.
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Post by: wrex on July 05, 2012, 06:59:33 AM
Its not a large firm doing the work so it seems to me to be a local or small concern.
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Post by: wrex on July 06, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
Bri any updates on the restaurant name.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 06, 2012, 01:49:26 PM
Is it definitely going to be a restaurant, wrex?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 17, 2012, 04:43:55 PM
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Bri any updates on the restaurant name.

Has anybody heard of The Great American Disaster Restaurant?
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Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 04:57:09 PM
Well we have now,looks like something from Happy Days,The Fonz would like it.So we have gone from a classy Italian too a Burger bar,oh well its jobs and one less empty shop.
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
This is the guy behind the new 'American Disaster Bar & Grill' in the former Burger King, Craig Holmes:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/914974451 (http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/914974451)
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Post by: Yorkie on July 17, 2012, 06:21:34 PM
Velly Interlesting!    D)

Don't recall seeing any of the other companies around.   Hope it goes well. $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
I thought it was being done up by a group of locals and not a big firm.There seems to be no website for this company.
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Post by: SDQ on July 17, 2012, 06:41:29 PM
Is it a franchise?
The Great American Disaster Restaurant Group is an American company who owned amongst other things the Hard Rock Cafe before they sold out to the Rank Organisation.
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
I assume it's some sort of tribute, as the original chain doesnt appear to exist any more.

Looking forward to giving it a whirl. Burgers on you, Wrex?  ;)
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Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Why me?.
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
Why not?  ;)  ;D
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Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 10:07:31 PM
Might not be up to Fat Cat standard.
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 10:31:28 PM
It shall be tried, it shall be reviewed...
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Post by: Fester on July 18, 2012, 12:04:44 AM
I look forward immensely to huge portions of RIBS..... and CHICKEN WINGS!!!!   $dins$ $dins$ $elvis$
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Post by: suepp on July 18, 2012, 02:09:04 AM
There was a Great American Disaster restaurant in Chester years ago,  very good burgers in nice surroundings  in the days before McDonalds took over.
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Post by: Ludo on July 18, 2012, 06:37:03 AM
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There was a Great American Disaster restaurant in Chester years ago,  very good burgers in nice surroundings  in the days before McDonalds took over.

I remember it too - way back in my time at Crane Wharf. I had quite a few pleasant experiences in there back in the 80s. I seem to remember it was down Lower Bridge Street just before the Bear and Billet on the same side of the street. It was good food and a really good atmosphere - and the prices were very reasonable...
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Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 08:42:04 AM
Remember, this is the 'American Disaster', not the 'Great American Disaster'.  ;)
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Post by: suepp on July 18, 2012, 09:03:34 AM
It was definitely called the Great American Disaster, and was  in the area Ludo describes. It had  blown up photos of the Kennedys and the  Speakeasy  days on the walls and blown up newspaper cuttings. I was always impressed by the four different types of relish you would get  with your food (it was the 1970's!) and the prices were reasonable!

Would an "American Disaster"  restaurant be considered appropriate these days?
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Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 09:07:07 AM
Plenty of America Presidents and Politicians one could name the Burgers after!     _))*
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Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 09:47:29 AM
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It was definitely called the Great American Disaster, and was  in the area Ludo describes. It had  blown up photos of the Kennedys and the  Speakeasy  days on the walls and blown up newspaper cuttings. I was always impressed by the four different types of relish you would get  with your food (it was the 1970's!) and the prices were reasonable!

Would an "American Disaster"  restaurant be considered appropriate these days?
My point was this isn't the same business as in Chester, just someone 'borrowing' the name and changing it slightly.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 10:17:55 AM
That is interesting, DaveR, because I spoke to someone at the site yesterday afternoon and he told me the name of the business.

I then asked if the business a one-off or was it part of a national chain and he informed me it was everywhere in the UK and abroad.
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Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
I suspect he's talking nonsense. Do a Google search on the name in the UK and you will only find memories of restaurants that closed 30 years ago.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 10:55:37 AM
I won't disagree but he is not going to help the new business venture with than kind of spin.  :-}}}
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Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 11:24:56 AM
Agreed!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Seems strange wanting to call any business 'Disaster' what's the point?
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Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 01:48:44 PM
Just look at the interest the Titanic has had since 1912!!!!    ;)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
I wonder how many have used the Titanic restaurant  in the last hundred years? I always think a business name should sound positive, or is it like when bad means good etc?  ???
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Post by: SDQ on July 18, 2012, 03:12:16 PM
The original Great American Disaster restaurants had the walls covered in New York Times front pages covering things such as the Wall Street Crash, the Hindenburg disaster & the assassination of JFK amongst others.  ???
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Post by: wrex on July 18, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
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Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.

 _))* good point Wrex!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
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A couple of tweets earlier today from a certain Mr Flannigan suggest otherwise:

Happy Independence day fellows is it true about who is coming to 72 MostynSt ,watch this space

Begins with C thats all i will say


The licensee is Mr Craig William Holmes
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Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 06:05:05 PM
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Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.
You're too much, Wrex!  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 07:56:41 PM
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I wonder how many have used the Titanic restaurant  in the last hundred years? I always think a business name should sound positive, or is it like when bad means good etc?  ???

There is a fantastic restaurant named the Titanic in Praia da Rocha, Algarve that we have been using for over 30 years.   Fabulous food and at reasonable prices.    ZXZ

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g652081-d1074077-Reviews-Titanic_Restaurant-Praia_da_Rocha_Portimao_Algarve.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g652081-d1074077-Reviews-Titanic_Restaurant-Praia_da_Rocha_Portimao_Algarve.html)
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Post by: wrex on July 19, 2012, 08:01:30 AM
Dave you know me,it might take another decade to get some decent xmas lights or to clean the beach,but i will keep trying.Town and county councillors beware i ain;t dying yet.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 19, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
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Remember, this is the 'American Disaster', not the 'Great American Disaster'.  ;)

The full title will be American Disaster Bar and Grill
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Post by: wrex on July 20, 2012, 07:14:58 AM
What has happened here is that a local has invested in the buiding, so the rent has been halved making viable for the Rhyl buisnessman to come into Llandudno and open up,he must be related too Holmes plaice next to the Carlton.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 20, 2012, 07:27:59 AM
Elementary my dear wrex.
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Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
I had a lovely afternoon tea at Bodysgallen Hall yesterday and a walk around the grounds afterwards.  It was a nice experience and the weather was good too and it didn't break the bank either.
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Post by: hollins on July 25, 2012, 09:23:40 PM
Glad you enjoyed your tea Hugo.

We have had drinks in two very different establishments on Lower Bridge Street in Chester today.
The first photo is a list of the beers above the fireplace in The Tap. I'm not certain but I think this could have been the old location for the Great American Disaster restaurant that was being discussed here recently. It is now a place specialising in unusual beers.

Then we went further up the street to Oddfellows Hall. This is a hotel now and it has a lovely garden restaurant at the back.
It's a place to go especially if you have an interest in interior design. It is really quirky.
Lovely place to sit out on a nice day (see second photo).
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Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2012, 08:55:29 AM
A second branch of Llandudno coffee shop Cafe Culture will be opening on the Square in Conwy this weekend. Photo courtesy of Colin Flannigan:
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Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
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I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.
I saw that the former 55 Diner is now up for rent, nil premium, offers invited! Previously, it was offered at £30k a year. I see no reason why it can't be operated very profitably at a lower rent.  ;)

http://www.christie.com/search/property/47/restaurant_unit_llanddulas_for_sale_42816 (http://www.christie.com/search/property/47/restaurant_unit_llanddulas_for_sale_42816)
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2012, 08:42:02 PM
The new Conwy branch of Cafe Culture:
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Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 07:58:48 AM
Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2012, 09:17:47 AM
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Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

What do you want (or need) a Burger Bar for?   Get some real food!    Z**
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Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 05:27:24 PM
Just being nosey,i won;t be eating there.
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Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2012, 07:13:27 PM
Work seems to have ground to a halt there in the last week.
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Post by: Fester on August 08, 2012, 12:26:06 AM
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Just being nosey,i won;t be eating there.

I most certainly WILL be eating there..... RIBS.... CHICKEN..... BURGERS!!!!   Mmmmmmm    $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 08, 2012, 07:42:55 AM
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Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

There is an application for an alcohol licence displayed in the window with a date of 16 July 2012.

I wonder if the applicant been slow in applying for a licence?
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Post by: Ian on August 08, 2012, 08:19:10 AM
Quote
Work seems to have ground to a halt there in the last week

Suppose that's appropriate for a burger bar... WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2012, 08:32:17 AM
Very good, Ian.  :laugh:

Whatever the reason, they will almost certainly not be open before the end of August and thus miss out on peak trading weeks.  &shake&
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Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2012, 09:00:53 AM
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I most certainly WILL be eating there..... RIBS.... CHICKEN..... BURGERS!!!!   Mmmmmmm    $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

Cholesterol, calories, pounds, NHS!!!!!     ££$
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Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2012, 09:51:18 AM
Indigestion !! ;D
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Post by: majormellons on August 13, 2012, 09:03:02 AM
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Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

I know, and you are going to love this.........

.....as most will know, the premises were previously a Burger King, National Milk Bar, Etc, so, obviously, had planning permission to sell food.
Unfortunately, the last people to rent it, were the people who did about 6 weeks of selling Christmas stuff, so the council have made the new owners apply for 'change of consent', so they can sell food.

Rules is rules, I hear you say, but the Christmas shop owners NEVER changed any permissions/regulations or applied for any 'change of use', so why the need for a re-application?

The owners are not happy, nor the 20 staff that they have had to lay off, while they await their application 'to sell food' to come through.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 13, 2012, 10:19:07 AM
Typical bureaucratic nonsense! Utter madness! Aren't these councils meant to be servants of the people, seems to be the other way round!  &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 10:25:24 AM
I cant see any Planning Application for Change of Use? Is it very recent?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 08:08:36 PM
I see the corner of the canopy at Cafe Culture is propped up with an acroprop - has it been hit by something?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2012, 08:48:31 PM
It was only 7 aug that i asked the question have CCBC held this up and less than a week later we hear they may have ,yet nobody bats an eyelid,what is wrong with this town,nobody seems to give a damn that we are governed by a bunch of idiots from the councillors too the council officials. Cock up after cock up,from Travelodge,to grass cutting,from clearing the main beach too building works on the prom at the hight of the season ,now to holding up a buisness that is trying to open in Llandudno,it goes on and on,CCBC have let Network rail and the Assembly take the mick out off our station project for 12 years while,Newport was rushed through for the Ryder cup,Swansea a brand new station,we let everybody walk all over us without a word,i suppose we get what we deserve.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
No information or lack of contact between people happens in all areas of life,  Wrex!   After all we are all human.    :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
Just spent the weekend in York and very nice too,every concievable chain there,some with two outlets,now im not comparing us with them but the fact that we can;t interest one restaurant too commit too Llandudno makes me wonder if CCBC have something to do with it,we know they have damaged a lot of projects in town so it just makes me wonder why not one seems to think we are worthy off their buisness.In York they encourage coaches and mobile homes too stay for the day by supplying special parking facilities,why make coaches leave brodway at the weekend whan we only get about 10 a day coming ,crazy but who  gives a fig what CCBC do to this town
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on August 13, 2012, 09:39:36 PM
I know naff all about politics but I do find myself gobsmacked sometimes by by the totally A*** upwards approach of Cbeebies.  It just seems that no matter who you vote for locally once voted in it's a case of "right...blankets over heads...let's go get a free lunch."
There's a comment over on Oscars that made me think earlier:

"Conwy IS the "Sick Man of Wales "
Is Conwy Council absolutely "Not fit for purpose"

The setting up of Conwy Council is proving to have been a Political
"Con Job"
Can we have our money back or a least an apology
The people of Conwy deserve better!
A damn sight better


How can we change it though? If Conwy is just a nice building full of muppets then the orders will invariably come from way over our heads....which is why things have got worse maybe?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
After talking with a local businessman earlier, we both came to the conclusion that the planning issues problem with the American Disaster Restaurant sounds a bit fishy. If a precedent was previously set with it having restaurant use, then there is pretty much no way it can be refused even if a new planning application was required, therefore no reason not to open business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 14, 2012, 11:27:18 AM
We discussed this issue and our thoughts were the same. Planning surely wasn't needed??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 14, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
There are, of course, many other reasons why a business fails to get under-way, apart from Planning Approval.    :D

Such could be the case here.    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2012, 10:42:48 AM
Latest set of Planning Applications are available. No mention of the American Disaster?

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/514/appswk19.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/514/appswk19.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on August 16, 2012, 03:50:29 PM
Could there have been an objection to an alcohol license being issued?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on August 16, 2012, 04:06:11 PM
Just checked the licensing section of the website - last date for representations was on Tuesday, 14 August.

Hours of operation shown as:

Opening: Mon - Sun: 08.00 – 00.00
Alcohol: Mon - Sun: 11.00 – 00.00
Recorded Music: Mon - Sun: 09.00 – 00.00
Late Night Refreshments: Mon - Sun 23.00 – 00.00

I can imagine at least one objection purely on the grounds that to be honest Llandudno has enough establishments with alcohol licences already.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on August 16, 2012, 04:38:59 PM
I think any objection has to be specifically related to one of the four licensing objectives.  If there's no objection then the licence is granted in the terms applied for.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
I see the American Disaster Restaurant is still nowhere near opening - they have missed the entire Summer season. Why didn't they just open without the alcohol licence and get the benefit of the Summer trade? Interestingly, I believe the American Disaster's owner also owns Cafe Express in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on August 31, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
In that case i won`t be going there, took my grandson for lunch to Cafe Express a couple of weeks ago it was terrible, everything was either frozen or microwaved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
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Publishers Book Clearance have started an End of Lease sale. Does this mean that someone else has taken a proper lease on that shop? 8)

Staff were informed on Saturday they are now closing down.

All stock is reduced to £1 with a few items at 50p.

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Must pop in there this afternoon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2012, 03:45:14 PM
No Dave, they are selling BOOKS for £1, .... not coffee!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 12, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
Someone may have to remind me of the LAW on this subject, but I have to make a point on the subject of children in pubs.

Basically, tonight in one of Llandudno's best venues, Dave R and I were trying to enjoy a meal.

The venue we were in is in the upper-bracket when it comes to charging, so in effect you are also paying for the atmosphere.

However, even up to 9.15pm, there was a large family with children and a very tiny new baby, getting served on an adjacent table.  Admittedly the family had been there since before 6pm, (which to me is an issue in itself)  &shake&
The baby was restless, and basically screamed the place down throughout the time we were eating our meal.

Call me an old misery if you like, but I just don't think its right that children, never mind babies, should be in pubs at those times.
The meal, despite the incessant wailing, was excellent by the way!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
I do agree with Fester on this one, I don't want to pay top dollar for food/drink and have to listen to a baby screaming whilst I'm eating. Why would anyone bring a tiny baby into a pub or bar and keep them there until that time of evening anyway? I was in Caffe Nero earlier and there was a kid screaming the place down there too - it's supposed be an upmarket coffee shop where people go to relax.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 13, 2012, 07:33:53 AM
I'm not at all sure pubs are the right place for young children, and a continuously screaming baby suggests that some action needed to be taken by the mother, or whoever was caring for the child. Most parents of very young children and babies are aware of the effect of screaming and shouting offspring on other people. and usually take steps to minimise the problem.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 13, 2012, 08:37:17 AM
I agree with you there Ian, the trouble today ( sounding old!) is that some mothers think that their children can do no wrong. This is well illustrated by their attitude to their offspring in shops. They are either riffling through the goods or talking on their phones whilst the kids run riot.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 14, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
This topic reminds me of a trip we took to York 26 years ago. In the evening I went to a very nice restaurant for a meal with my wife and very young son who woke up just as the meal arrived. We spent the next hour taking it in turn to stand outside the restaurant so as not to spoil other diners evening. Then came the realisation that things had changed and with young children you have to amend your lifestyle.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 15, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
Firstly Children of any age are allowed in pubs up until the time imposed in the way of a restriction on their license by the local licensing Authority.
Children can also drink Ale Cider and Porter on the condition that they have not been served it themselves and that it is consumed with a bone fide meal. Normally consumed via an implement IE Knife and Fork. Or maybe chop sticks depending on their culture.
Some local licensing authorities may differ from others depending upon their social attitudes. But in this area the authority may prefer children to be in a pub up until a certain time as long as they are accompanied by a parent or responsible person.
One of the 4 licensing objectives is the safety of children and keeping children from harm.
Children must not purchase alcohol nor are you allowed to purchase alcohol for a child in a pub unless to be included with a genuine meal and then the type of drink is restricted. nor are you allowed to sell alcohol to someone who is knowingly going to pass the alcohol. (to a person under 18)
Basically the licence  must operate their business within the parameters of the Licensing act and also within the restrictions imposed by the local Licensing Authority.
But if the children are noisy, screaming or upset then they should consider that the child is disturbing others  which is not good for business.
The final argument is this. if a child is noisy through enjoyment , that is one thing. but if a child is making a noisy as a result of their objection to being subjected to an alcohol environment then does that break the law. don't forget the 4 licensing objectives one of which is the safety and welfare of children.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 15, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
It is quite common to see a "Father and son" in a pub  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2012, 05:52:38 PM
Good info, Cat, you know your stuff.  $good$  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
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I see the American Disaster Restaurant is still nowhere near opening - they have missed the entire Summer season. Why didn't they just open without the alcohol licence and get the benefit of the Summer trade? Interestingly, I believe the American Disaster's owner also owns Cafe Express in Llandudno.

There is finally a notice on a pole on the pavement near to the restaurant referring to planning permission.

No doubt, DaveR, will know how to find the application reference number 0/39194.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2012, 11:03:58 PM
I poked my nose into the American Diner doorway today.
It looks like its only a few days away from being ready to open.
But, at this time of year, will it be busy enough to get through to next years peak season?

I'll be giving it a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 20, 2012, 08:31:40 PM
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I'll be giving it a try.

I'm with you on this one Fester, I'll try it first and then decide if it was worth the effort.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
I do hope somebody invests in a new young pub soon,the town is looseing its appeal for youngsters who are turning to Bangor for their nites out,we know its a university city and its easier to attract your Yates winebars but if nobody invests in Llandudno  soon i thinks the days of people coming in for a nite out at the weekend could be numbered.The old folk on the council will not have a clue what i am on about,are only hope is for the Clarence or the Tudno Castle to incorperate one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 23, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
I was in the rugby club last night and there were five young ladies on the next table and they where all off to Bangor for the night ,to a new bar that was opening,as i said in my last post Llandudno has now lost out to the younger people of the town as nobody wants to invest in the nitelife of Llandudno,i know there will be a lot of people saying thank god but this is not good for the economy of our town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
Wrex, I was in The Gresham last night, it was very busy as it now serves tapas of the highest quality, accompanied by live Spanish music.  The FatCat an Fountains were busy too, but at different times.
There was a band on in The Townhouse, and that was packed around midnight.

I understand that a Tapas restuarant is not for the younger clientele as you say, and I agree that there are few vibrant places for nightlife for the 'younger end' in Llandudno.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 24, 2012, 08:30:50 AM
I was in the Cross Keys friday nite,heaving as a local band where on,all im bothered about is we are driving our youngsters away,nothing we can do about it,Bangor is now the place to go all im hopeing is we manage to attract a buisnesses dealing with the young,remember even if they showed an interest they haet passed our council first.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 24, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
Bangor is a University Town Wrex, we will never be able to compete with them, but just think what Llandudno had to offer 10 years ago and then consider what Upper Mostyn Street offers now. A huge change mainly directed at our younger generation  Z**  WWW  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 27, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
One of the problems that has contributed to the exodus of the younger element is the fact that the local Licensing Authority have been wielding their ever ending campaign of trying to catch out the licensees by sending in a youngster into a venue in the hope that they get served then they issue an £80 fine and possibly a criminal record to the poor unsuspecting bar person.
If a venue is caught twice in three months they then enforce a 48 hour closure period which is enforced on a weekend of their choice. (Licensing Authority Choice)
About 2 years ago they closed three pubs in Abergele on the same weekend.
This action in turn makes the licensee very defensive and as a result they choose to exercise the 25 rule, whereupon any person trying to enter a particular venue has to if they look under 25 prove that they are over 18.. which in some sense is all well and good and if you wish to have a good night out then you must carry identification which incidentally can only be 1. A Driving Licence. 2. A Passport. 3 A PASS card which is issued by the home office. NO OTHER IDENTIFICATION WILL SUFFICE..
Nowthen picture the situation . 10 youngsters plan on going out on the town for the night but only eight of then have the relevant Identification then you will have to change your plans or leave your mates (not the rubber kind) at home or you have the option of going to Bangor which is controlled by a different Licensing Authority with different ethics .
I maintain that the evening economy in LLandudno has been damaged a result of the Gestapo style tactics of the Local Licensing enforcement team.  Yes you are quite right 10 years ago there were more youngsters out in the pubs which in turn added to the numbers and made Mostyn very vibrant place to be. but over The last 7 years the Local Licensing Authority have treated the younger element with contempt, and driven them away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 27, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
Good point - I'm almost 30 and I often get asked for ID - but (as recently as last week in a supermarket) I don't carry my passport around with me and don't drive so if I get asked then  I don't get served, very annoying  $angry$

Incidentally though, I'm sure I read that these young people sent in by the licencing authority have to tell the truth about their age if they're just asked - so if the person behind the bar says "Are you 18?" They would have to say no. So no need to ask for ID they can just ask for the age.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 27, 2012, 11:07:24 PM
Also to further back up Yusuf's point, I get asked for ID more often now than I did when I was 18 and 19.
Now I know I have maintained my youthful good looks  ;) But I'd be surprised if I look younger now than I did over ten years ago  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 27, 2012, 11:57:09 PM
I have to take up that point regarding the licensing authority.

I frequent many of the pubs in Llandudno..  ZXZ  and I have seen what I consider to be an injustice several occasions.
In my experience, The Fat Cat and The Fountains Bar are both very well managed, very considerate to the local residents and extremely compliant in terms of regulations.
However I notice that they are targeted by the police and licensing authorities on an inordinate amount of occasions.
This creates upheaval and inconvenience for the managers, plus a feeling of unease for the customer.

However, several other pubs in Llandudno are appallingly run, noisy and obviously flout many regulations.
To date, I have NEVER seen the police or licensing authorities ever enter those premises.

I wonder why?   ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 28, 2012, 09:04:58 AM
Since the introduction of the licensing regulations in 2005 the drinking culture of Britain has changed dramatically.
I remember when I was 16ish i was able to buy a pint in several pubs with friends who were older than myself. however I did look 18 years of age.
No ID was ever asked for and most young people from the age of 18 would frequent the pub at least twice a week. I am talking about the 70's when you would not find large gangs of kids gathering in the park drinking cheep alcohol. In the 70's  it would take 4 kids to club together to buy a 24 pack of lager, now however a youngster on his own can buy then with their pocket money.
In the 70's to gain a license all you had to do was stand up in-front the licensing committee at one of 12 Brewster sessions at the local magistrates court, and as long as you were a fit and proper person they would grant you a license.
Now however you have to sit a test hosted by a home office recognised body and prove that you have a good understanding of the licensing law together with its main objectives. Then you have to produce a clean criminal Record Check. Apply to the council for a licence who inturn also have the power to revoke it if you break any of the licensing objectives..
I say this.
Licensees now are more qualified and much more responsible in their workplace to look after the customers who frequent their businesses.
So why is it that the local council and the licensing authority are almost forcing the youngsters out into the parks to drink cheep supermarket booze in an unsupervised location
I'm not saying that kids under the age of 18 should drink alcohol. But the pub is a supervised drinking establishment policed by the Licensee and their staff. and wouldn't that be a safer environment.
Remember the days when the last bell rang at closing time. that was it. It was off for a kebab and home you went.
Not so now you can sit up the local park and the only thing that finishes the night is when you run out of booze.
Or when you sit in your arm chair at home their is no bell to signal last orders so no one to say stop you have had enough.
If you go to Bangor you will find a much more relaxed approach to alcohol. there are no underagers in the pubs but their are pleaty of youngsters learning how to be adults. I say the problem here in LLandudno is a result of local authority influence.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 28, 2012, 09:53:54 AM
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So why is it that the local council and the licensing authority are almost forcing the youngsters out into the parks to drink cheep supermarket booze in an unsupervised location

You make some interesting points, Cat. What's worth considering is why culture has changed.  And I'm not sure it's changed as recently as you suggest.

To deal with your quoted (above) point first: councils - and all politicians - are fuelled mainly by fear; primarily  of losing their jobs come the next election, but also from a deep seated fear that they don't have all the answers they suggested they might when standing for the last one.  In a way, that's perfectly understandable, but the consequence for voters is they have to suffer the knee jerk' response to events. Since the mid 2000s several TV companies have been making a series of 'fly-on-the-wall' documentaries in which they've focussed on policing inner city streets at night.  Naturally, quiet streets where little happens after dark don't make for good audience figures, whereas scenes of screaming, abusive, physically violent and utterly inebriated denizens of the night, do - in spades - and thus the advertisers pay more to fill the programme slots. Unfortunately, some of the national media - the DFM leading the charge - print absurd claims and stories, attempting to insinuate that such scenes are totally typical of the decline of modern youth and the degeneration of the country under (fill in appropriate party here) is all but unstoppable. I've never worked out why, but politicians actually take notice of some newspapers, and thus the reactions are born.

What we're seeing in Conwy with regard to the licensing situation can be traced back - I think - to a series of 'exposés' regarding under-age drinking in the area by the local press. Local councils reacted and we have the current situation.

But I also think you make a salient point when you say
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In the 70's  it would take 4 kids to club together to buy a 24 pack of lager, now however a youngster on his own can buy then with their pocket money.

There's little doubt in my mind that the supermarket pricing strategies have allowed youngsters to get alcohol very cheaply compared with the past and - regrettably - there are plenty of adults willing to help them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 28, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
Is there a OAP NIMBY-ism going on in the area?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on September 28, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I hate to state the obvious and run counter to your arguements, but isn't the council simply enforcing the law of the land, which states that it is an offence to sell alcohol to under 18s. You seem to be saying that if only they were allowed to serve who they want, when they want, at whatever age they want, that all would be hunky-dory. I think it's right that licensees who are breaking the law, should be held to account for doing so. That is the law, like we all have to follow. 

Llandudno is not a great night out it has to be said, but that is mainly because we have far fewer 20-35 year olds than other areas as they escape to areas where there are jobs and a bit of life. Bangor has a university and favourable demographics.

It was a problem when Bartons/Annabelles closed as that kept people in the town centre, but that closed due to structural problems in the building so could not really be helped.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 28, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
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I hate to state the obvious and run counter to your arguements,

Whose arguments?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 28, 2012, 04:22:49 PM
Today the OH and I had a run out and finished for a coffee at the Welsh Food Centre at Bodnant.  Place still has workmen doing things and it was very quiet.  I would suspect that most of the cars present belonged to the staff.   Had two cappuccinos at the extortionate price of £4.90 which included queuing at the counter (by oneself) and waiting for what seemed an eternity.  No small biscuit or similar offered.  The cappuccinos were not the best available locally.  Two other people having a snack and about 6 people having ice creams.

Went into the shop and disgusted at the quality of the "fresh produce" - Cauliflowers soft and blown, Carrots soft and old, much a similar story with other items.

All pre-packed stuff too expensive for me and the bit of Welsh Black Fillet I fancied was over £41.00 a kilo!   Needless to say if I had to shop there I would soon become a vegetarian - except for their veggies, of course!   It is going to be a long time before we venture up their path again.   What a sad situation.
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 28, 2012, 07:53:48 PM
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Today the OH and I had a run out and finished for a coffee at the Welsh Food Centre at Bodnant. Two other people having a snack and about 6 people having ice creams.

Went into the shop and disgusted at the quality of the "fresh produce" - Cauliflowers soft and blown, Carrots soft and old, much a similar story with other items.

All pre-packed stuff too expensive

I'm with you on this one Yorkie, I threw my ice cream away as it was nothing but grease. Everything in the shop was way overpriced.  :o  I think it’s been built to cater for the Cruise ship market and most certainly not for locals on a budget. I've been once and wo'nt waist my time going back a second time. However I do love going around the Gardens and think what has been achieved there is a credit to the National Trust
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2012, 07:19:33 AM
There ain't gonna be any cruise ship market in this area, and old aged pensioners on coach trips won't be buying much.  I think they have about 6 or 8 bays allocated for coaches.  Time will tell.    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2012, 10:41:22 AM
Haven't been there for a look yet-- but you are certainly putting me in doubt !
I can't be doing with anything which isn't fresh and/or good value. Blongb-- your ice cream sounds disgusting-- think I'll stick to Asda ! ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
The best Ice Cream is at ALDI.  Stop there and buy some!    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 29, 2012, 05:37:07 PM
Give the place 6 months and there will be a change of manager
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2012, 11:05:17 AM
Have been into Coffee V in Craig Y Don a few more times since it opened. Its improved a lot, they now have a range of paninis/sandwiches etc. Well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2012, 12:48:52 PM
The American Disaster Restaurant is now recruiting staff, so opening cannot be too far away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on October 16, 2012, 04:22:59 PM
I notice that the Pebbles Restaurant is for sale on a new lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 21, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
Harvey;s the American restaurant should be open by the end of the week,then there is nothing left to look forward too.Oh the xmas lights of course.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 23, 2012, 12:53:51 PM
It looks very nice from outside in the street.

The owners appear to have dropped the original name and are now calling it Harvey's - New York Bar and Grill.

We shall give it a try over the coming days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 23, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
6 of us went to East on Augusta Street last night to celebrate a friend’s birthday.  The food was fantastic and very reasonably priced.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2012, 04:06:46 PM
Last week our retirement group had their Autumn lunch at the Royal Oak in Betws Y Coed and it was delicious.  The meal and everything was faultless and this was the third Autumn running that we have had our lunch there but I'm certain that we'll be back again next October.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
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It looks very nice from outside in the street.

The owners appear to have dropped the original name and are now calling it Harvey's - New York Bar and Grill.

We shall give it a try over the coming days.
I was looking at it with Fester earlier. Signage looks very good indeed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 25, 2012, 07:04:07 PM
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 25, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
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Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update
Tomorrow or Saturday, I hear.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 26, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
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Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 29, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Might pop in later and give it a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 04:58:20 PM
Harvey's seems to be doing really well, was full when I went past just now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 29, 2012, 05:19:31 PM
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Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.

Do they sell vegetarian food in this Harveys?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on October 29, 2012, 06:22:52 PM
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Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.

Do they sell vegetarian food in this Harveys?


I'm sure you'll get lettuce & tomato with your burger!   :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 29, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
I went past Harvey's at 6.30, it was quite busy... I am very pleased for them.

Born to Run.... in answer to your question about 'do they serve vegetarian food' ... well I expect the answer will be yes, but I hope they do not.
After all, I think that cows and sheep should have to take their chances just like cabbages and onions do!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 29, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Went there tonight at 8,we had to wait for a table,it was fine ,obviously a few teething problems but we all enjoyed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 04:06:42 PM
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Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.

Went in with the Mrs just before 3 this afternoon, for a coffee.  Greeted with "We're busy and only do food when we're busy".  Decided to leave but then told we could have just coffee if we wished.  Sat down and the Greeter asked was I local, where from?   As is my normal wont I said Holland.    He was from Stoke-on-Trent.     So we sat down, and waited - and waited - and waited some more.   Then being fed up we left.   I wonder if we would have been served, or even had an order taken, more quickly had I been a local (which, of course, we all know, I am)?

I will go again and give them another try!  ZXZ

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 05:07:16 PM
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Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.

Went in with the Mrs just before 3 this afternoon, for a coffee.  Greeted with "We're busy and only do food when we're busy".  Decided to leave but then told we could have just coffee if we wished.  Sat down and the Greeter asked was I local, where from?   As is my normal wont I said Holland.    He was from Stoke-on-Trent.     So we sat down, and waited - and waited - and waited some more.   Then being fed up we left.   I wonder if we would have been served, or even had an order taken, more quickly had I been a local (which, of course, we all know, I am)?

I will go again and give them another try!  ZXZ

I wouldn't.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
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I wouldn't.  &shake&

Oh!  So I take it that we will not be having the Three Towns Christmas Party there?   ZXZ  ZXZ
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 07:42:24 PM
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I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Hope he doesn't have all the hassle he had with the Conwy shop!    ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 11:45:44 PM
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I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Oh Aye?   Whats going on there then?  *&( $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
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I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Oh Aye?   Whats going on there then?  *&( $dins$
Nothing to worry about.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
A3 planning has been applied for, not A5.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2012, 09:18:20 AM
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A3 planning has been applied for, not A5.
There's no A5 category, just A1, A2, A3.

Class A1. Shops
Use for all or any of the following purposes—
 (a) for the retail sale of goods other than hot food,
 (b) as a post office,
 (c) for the sale of tickets or as a travel agency,
 (d) for the sale of sandwiches or other cold food for consumption off the premises,
 (e) for hairdressing,
 (f) for the direction of funerals,
 (g) for the display of goods for sale,
 (h) for the hiring out of domestic or personal goods or articles,
 (i) for the reception of goods to be washed, cleaned or repaired,
where the sale, display or service is to visiting members of the public.

Class A2. Financial and professional services
Use for the provision of —
 (a) financial services, or
 (b) professional services (other than health or medical services), or
 (c) any other services (including use as a betting office) which it is appropriate to provide in a shopping area,
where the services are provided principally to visiting members of the public.

Class A3. Food and drink
Use for the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 02, 2012, 09:58:12 AM
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Class A3. Food and drink
Use for the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises.

Not another bl***y cafe surely!   No wonder there is a lot of obesity in this country!    :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2012, 10:04:21 AM
I read there is no A5 category in Wales, so does this fact lump together all sales of food-- eat in, eat out or whatever?
If it is going to be food and not news this will be good for Vollams---- unless???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 06, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
I've just been reading Harvey's first ever review on TripAdvisor and it doesn't make pleasant reading.  According to whoever wrote it when they complained about the food the manager's response was that they could f... off  :o.

They also got a good review as well so maybe it's improving.....

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d3601190-r144578414-Harveys_New_York_Bar_and_Grill-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d3601190-r144578414-Harveys_New_York_Bar_and_Grill-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2012, 08:16:06 PM
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I read there is no A5 category in Wales, so does this fact lump together all sales of food-- eat in, eat out or whatever?
If it is going to be food and not news this will be good for Vollams---- unless???
There are no plans to close the Newsagents, it is just a potential option for the future.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 06, 2012, 08:56:28 PM
I've heard Vollams has just changed hands.  It's been bought by someone from Bangor who owns some newsagent shops over there.  The previous owner (Graham?) has been asked to stay on by the new owner to run the shop for him.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2012, 07:08:45 PM
Mr Fester and I visited Harveys this afternoon. I'll leave Fester to post his own review but I found it ok at best and somewhat overpriced for the quality of the food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 07:28:23 PM
As Dave says, we have been looking to sample the wares at Harvey's New York Bar and Grill for a week or two now.
So tonight. we went for it!

On the plus side, the menu selection was very impressive.
It draws upon such places as Hard Rock Cafe for its inspiration, and considering they are a 'stand-alone' business and not a franchise, the variety is very good.
The decor is also quite impressive, and would not look out of place in a national chain of restaurants.
However, thats where the positives end.

I had the dozen chicken wings as a starter, (£4.99) and it was OK... just OK.
I suspect they had been fried a good while ago, and re-heated.   so a little less tasty than I would have hoped, but hey ho.

My main course was the 'Pulled Pork', .......the menu had 'recommended' marked by this dish. It costs £10.99
Well, they may recommend it, but I am afraid that I won't be.
Pulled Pork is a dish which Hard Rock Cafe specialise in, and its a big favourite of mine.
It looked fine on arrival, but I soon realised that it was tasteless and strangely watery.

Unlike me, I actually left some of it, I tried very hard to like it, but I just couldn't.

So, overall, I wish them well, and I think they will be packed out next holiday season... but if they are relying on repeat customers, then I think they might have to add a little more quality to the food itself.




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 08, 2012, 07:34:20 PM
Trip Advisor is filling up with third rate praise for the place.    :puke2:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
Sounds very expensive prices with very low quality food, we won't be trying it!  :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
Reading the Trip Advisor comments, Harvey's sounds like Fawlty Towers!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 09:02:26 PM
I would hasten to advise caution when looking at Trip Advisor reviews.. especially emotive ones like that.

I have been actually present (in Llandudno) when the proprietor of a local restuarant went out of his way to accomodate and placate a 'disgruntled customer'
The very next day a very spiteful and unfair review appeared on Trip Advisor...'Fawlty Towers' was mentioned there too!
It was discovered that this disruptive person was actually a local competitor of this restaurant, who was hell bent on ruining the reputation of the local restaurant.

I think that anyone posting on threads such as this, or the 'recommend a local trader' one should refrain from commenting or simply agreeing with the previous poster... or WORSE, agreeing with an anonymous Trip Advisor review.

I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.
I always look at a large sample of reviews before booking, say, a hotel.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 08, 2012, 09:12:50 PM
There's a couple of reviews of Harvey's now on Qype, one awarding them five out of five and other one out of five.  Whatever else the place clearly manages to divide opinion.  I hope they manage to sort things out because I'd be surprised if they have anything on the menu that I wouldn't like (assuming it was cooked properly) but I don't feel I can justify the outlay based on what I've heard at the moment.  Hopefully it's just teething problems and they'll get things sorted in due course.

http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno (http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
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I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.


 :o spend money on eating out!! Me?  _))*  We had a quick look in there last Saturday, a quick look at the menu and we could see no obvious vegetarian options that appealed and the prices were far too high for us anyway!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
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I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.


 :o spend money on eating out!! Me?  _))*  We had a quick look in there last Saturday, a quick look at the menu and we could see no obvious vegetarian options that appealed and the prices were far too high for us anyway!

Thats another good point which I forgot, there were no menu boards outside, or in the window.
So you must have gone inside.
Whilst Dave and I were in, several people appeared outside and looked in, but they didn't enter as they didn't want to look foolish or be embarrassed by asking prices.  It is vital to have a menu, complete with prices, facing outwards.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
A few places seem to do that for some reason, I'm perfectly happy to go in and check it out, if I don't like the look of it, or the prices I'm out of there!  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 09, 2012, 07:33:37 AM
Quote
It is vital to have a menu, complete with prices, facing outwards.

It's actually the law, if the place has table service. If you go to a counter, however, they're not obliged to do so.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Some more Restaurant legalese here:
http://www.nelsonsonline.co.uk/nelsons/index.cfm?event=base:article&node=A76053D76913 (http://www.nelsonsonline.co.uk/nelsons/index.cfm?event=base:article&node=A76053D76913)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on November 18, 2012, 08:45:46 PM
   Harveys New York Bar. Took my 25 year old daughter and my 2months old grandson there. Didnt last long, all of 5 minutes. No baby changing facilities (actually my daughter says there are no disabled toilets either --- but I cannot confirm that.)
  And, remarkably, the 25 year old mother, well used to nightclub noise, didnt like the loud music!!! That did surprise me.   Mike   P.S.Noise didnt bother me,my hearing aid battery had gone flat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 18, 2012, 09:19:15 PM
It does seem the owner has just gone for tourist traffic and no real regard for local turnover,not sure if they have a card facility yet or signs on the toilet,the toilet is just one cubicle for the mens which is not good enougth,not sure what they have done with the upstairs.So overall it seems to be overpriced and lacking in customer care so not sure how long its going to last.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2012, 10:05:36 PM
I'm still trying to work out what is remotely 'New York' about it. I was hoping for a lot more, if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2012, 10:07:53 PM
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There's a couple of reviews of Harvey's now on Qype, one awarding them five out of five and other one out of five.  Whatever else the place clearly manages to divide opinion.  I hope they manage to sort things out because I'd be surprised if they have anything on the menu that I wouldn't like (assuming it was cooked properly) but I don't feel I can justify the outlay based on what I've heard at the moment.  Hopefully it's just teething problems and they'll get things sorted in due course.

http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno (http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno)
Who thinks this review is genuine...? Not me!!!

"Love this place so much i have been twice since it opened!!!! amazing atmosphere and lovely food!! about time Llandudno had somewhere like this that you can go and sit in nice surroundings and enjoy great tasting and nicely presented food. Love the fact that you can see the chefs cooking in the kitchen. Totally disagree with the above comment that states it has been done to a budget?? were you in the same place? yes it is frustrating about only being able to pay by cash but from what i can gather its the card machine company that is at fault and not the owners. Great place, will certainly be returning!!"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 18, 2012, 10:20:56 PM
The latest three reviews on Tripadvisor sound very similar to that, I don't believe them either!  Perhaps they should have kept the 'Disaster' name!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 18, 2012, 10:29:05 PM
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the toilet is just one cubicle for the mens which is not good enougth,

I am not going to comment if it is right or wrong by having only the one toilet for men but isn't it just the same with Caffe Nero and they trade over two floors and not just the one?

On the subject of Caffe Nero, can someone please explain why they have now placed tables and chairs outside in front of where customers inside are looking out instead of positioning them around the corner in St Georges Place where the impact would be minimal?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2012, 07:17:51 AM
There is a unisex/disabled toilet on the ground floor, as well as the toilet upstairs.

Caffe Nero only have permission to put outside seating outside the Mostyn St frontage, I believe it will be extended outside the St Georges Place frontage by next Summer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2012, 07:20:37 AM
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Caffeine Nero only have permission to put outside seating outside the Mostyn St frontage, I believe it will be extended outside the St Georges Place frontage by next Summer.

The British weather permitting!    Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 19, 2012, 07:33:41 AM
Thank you, DaveR.

Yorkie, there are external awnings outside Caffe Nero on both sides for what they are worth.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2012, 10:40:30 AM
'Tis the wind, Bri, that is the main problem.  It's either North East from the Prom or South West up Lloyd Street.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 19, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
Wind and DaveR and Caffe Nero what a picture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Welshmunchkin on November 19, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
I was in Llandudno last week and called in the Inglenook cafe restaurant, which is in Vaughn Street, opposite the railway station. I think it was previously called Cafe Monet. I only wanted a snack so had home made soup with warm bread rolls which was excellent! Had a peak at their menu and it looked   really interesting with breakfast,paninis, sandwiches,etc through to main meals and even a couple of Polish meals which sound interesting.They also do traditional afternoon teas.A Very good selection and I think well worth a look. Friendly people too and I wish them well, can be harder to make business when you're not in the main streets.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on November 19, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
I too went into the Inglenook cafe last week and had one of the Polish dishes on the menu and it was fantastic, one of the tastiest meals i've had for ages and good value too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 20, 2012, 08:27:51 AM
I always wondered when this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/restaurateur_profile_revenge_plan/) would happen...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: romanjohn on November 22, 2012, 01:24:05 AM
me again  looking through the paper on the web  headline may 11 washington nights to close it looks like it will be the biggest chinese restraunt on the the north coast
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2012, 09:07:58 AM
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me again  looking through the paper on the web  headline may 11 washington nights to close it looks like it will be the biggest chinese restraunt on the the north coast
Its certainly gone very quiet at the Washington. No sign of any work whatsoever taking place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 02, 2012, 12:12:26 AM
Never let it be said that Yorkshiremen are miserly.

Tonight Mrs Fester and I walked past the Mediterranean Restaurant in Upper Mostyn St, and she said to me that the smells that were wafting out of there were heavenly.

So, being the big softy that I am, I gave in... and I let her walk past it again!



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Post by: Tosh on December 02, 2012, 08:50:57 AM
 _))*   _))*    L0L   L0L 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2012, 09:38:38 AM
I went into the cafe in Waterstones the other day and was surprised to see that it had been completely changed around and rebranded as Cafe W, not a vestige of the former Cafe Culture remained:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 13, 2012, 08:31:47 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 13, 2012, 09:27:02 AM
Cadwaladers were asked on Facebook about the closure of their Llandudno cafe and said: "We hope to re-open in Llandudno sometime in 2013, we will post all developments and news on our Facebook page. Thank you."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 13, 2012, 03:33:56 PM
DaveR has been spotted heading towards Caffe Nero or Fat Cats beware. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2012, 04:03:38 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.

Are you sure you mean The Mediterranean?   I just walked past Pars Restaurant, (a couple of doors down, just below Fat Cat) .. and Pars has closed down.  In fact there is a notice which infers that the Landlord has repossessed the property!

I sincerely hope that it is not BOTH of them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 13, 2012, 04:48:43 PM
This may help to explain the position with Cadwaladers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on December 13, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
     All this talk about High Street businesses closing down, or being closed down ---- comes as no surprise to me. Actually I'm surprised its taken so long. The main reason, the rentals for these properties. Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 13, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
Also the very high business rates!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2012, 11:24:10 PM
The Mediterranean was open and quite busy tonight.

It's Pars Restaurant that has been closed down, and repossessed by the Landlord.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2012, 08:23:49 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.

Are you sure you mean The Mediterranean?   I just walked past Pars Restaurant, (a couple of doors down, just below Fat Cat) .. and Pars has closed down.  In fact there is a notice which infers that the Landlord has repossessed the property!

I sincerely hope that it is not BOTH of them!

'Twas someone outside Coony's who was talking to my OH. Someone must have got the wrong information. Glad you spotted that Fester.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2012, 01:07:52 PM
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DaveR has been spotted heading towards Caffe Nero or Fat Cats beware. :laugh:
:P  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
We had a walk around Penmaenmawr yesterday and I was amazed to find an American Diner straight from the Fifties! the place was spotless and stunning to look at  8) It is called 'The Lazy Dollar' and it's part of the Antique shop next door, also very good to look around!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0169.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0165.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0166.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0168.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on January 06, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
The Lazy Dollar in Pen opened almost two years ago.  Not that I've been (to Pen at any time in the last two years).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 06, 2013, 09:41:56 PM
I called in there today, it was pretty good, not to mention apparently the only cafe in Penmaenmawr that was open!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on January 06, 2013, 10:35:04 PM
I went about a year ago and really enjoyed it. Does it still only do vegetarian meals?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
We plan to revisit and we are veggies, I'll report back! It has a 5 star food hygiene rating in the window and was the most spotless cafe that I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 08, 2013, 08:57:23 AM
Just been watching BBC buisness and they where in Devon,in a little town where the small retailers are thriveing,cake shops ,butchers etc etc not many shops empty,i think there are many local people who would love to have there own buisness but there is noway independants can afford the crazy rents,rates,etc so it will take Llandudno a few more empty shops before somebody actualy tries to do something.If these conglomerates where fined for having empty premises then maybe they would try a bit harder to fill the shops.I think the whole of Mostyn st has about 11 empty shops,Victoria center about 7 empty units,Mostyn Champneys has 1 empty unit so i suppose at the moment that ain;t to bad,but i have a feeling things are about to get a little worse.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 09, 2013, 10:23:12 AM
Just strolled round with the dog for 1/4 hour and noticed that NO1 Bistro is " Closed till Further notice". Haven't been past for a while. Is this something new? Some of my guests will be sickened as they used to go regularly. :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 09, 2013, 06:46:21 PM
Sadly, Jessops has gone into administration.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
Annie and Howard in No1 Bistro have given up the ghost, at least for the time-being, after battling against poor levels of custom for the last couple of years.
However, they may not be closed permanently. Lets see what the new season brings.

Jessops is another matter.
I have often sat in Caffe Nero, looked across to Jessops and said to Dave R that it was a business on borrowed time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 09, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
Strange as Jessops always seemed busy when we went in and I bought two cameras there last year!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on January 10, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
A lot of these high street chains that go into administration not because a lack of sales but because of severely bad management in the HQ. It's a trait of British business that is sadly very common. Senior management are arrogant and too distantly removed from the coal face of the business.
I once worked for a company as part of a team working on an IT project worth £30m which was scrapped in favour of a more paper based system which required 3 more office staff to administrate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on January 10, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
The Parade in Church Walks has closed. It appears Enterprise, who are the owners, tried to put the rent up. The tenants said no, packed up and moved out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2013, 07:36:57 PM
    In reply to dwsi in his thread. I am not too sure of my facts here because I only skimmed through reading it in some paper. Basically though it is correct.
   Some big company in retailing, maybe Comet, had a new managing director around twelve months ago. He had previously been high up in Jessops.
  At the time I read this, around three weeks or so ago, I was tempted to write somewhere to point out that (tounge in cheek) he had plenty going for him in the job. He left one well paid job in a firm struggling with its finances and he moves to take over another firm just as bad if not worse. Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2013, 07:47:59 PM
I think he went to HMV, which is also struggling badly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2013, 07:51:59 PM
   Yes, thats it Dave. But imagine. HMV says "We are struggling for cash. So, lets get that man from Jessops." Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2013, 04:30:34 PM
I noticed that the Haulfre Gardens cafe is being refurbished over the Winter.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
Went to the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay for lunch on Friday. Its always a very welcoming pub, I think, with such friendly staff. We sat in the side bit by a big open fire and watched the snow falling outside. Lunch was an open Steak sandwich, a decent sized portion and very filling for a 'light bite'. Recommended.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
I can endorse what you say Dave.

Bit of a coincidence though - I was there on Friday (about 12.15 to 1.30pm) with my wife and a friend. We were sitting on the right just through the door near that fire, also watching it snow!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 07:56:51 PM
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I can endorse what you say Dave.

Bit of a coincidence though - I was there on Friday (about 12.15 to 1.30pm) with my wife and a friend. We were sitting on the right just through the door near that fire, also watching it snow!
Well, what a concidence! I did notice quite a few people sitting in that area; we arrived at 12.40 according to my camera:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 08:00:35 PM
Guess whose vehicle that is?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
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Guess whose vehicle that is?
Well I never! I've edited the photo to hide your reg plate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
Thanks Dave. I was sat with my back to people coming in and out so was not aware of anyone I might have known.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 21, 2013, 07:50:18 AM
Good to hear from you, Stan.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 21, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
Thanks Ian, yes I am still alive and kicking!
I have been a bit pre-occupied in recent times as we have had a major health issue in the family but things are now improving.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 21, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Glad to hear it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2013, 12:26:57 PM
I'm in Coffee V in Craig Y Don having lunch and I see that they have a weekend offer, whereby you can save 25% on all coffees, sandwiches etc. Being as their prices are already very reasonable, this seems a great offer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
I had Sunday lunch this week at the Signatures Restaurant in Conwy Morfa and it was absolutely delicious, it's a shame that Hollins wasn't there to take her usual photos of the food.    $good$
It may be slightly dearer than some others but the standard of food and service were excellent and we were able to manage the 3 courses, but only just!    :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 29, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
Hugo, have you not signed up yet for three courses for the price of two after 3pm on Sundays?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 29, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
Cadwaladers where stripping all their stuff out last nite.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
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Cadwaladers where stripping all their stuff out last nite.
I saw the van parked on the pavement and them carrying out a freezer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2013, 10:18:51 PM
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Hugo, have you not signed up yet for three courses for the price of two after 3pm on Sundays?  ;)

I was so hungry Bri that I couldn't wait until 3.00pm.  Absolutely delicious and worth every penny as my clean plate proved.      $good$      $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2013, 07:39:02 PM
I noticed today that the Carlton had scaffolding up in order to carry out some work on the building. What was funny was that workmen had just smashed the glass panels in the canopy to stick the poles through, instead of lifting them out.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 02, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
I have just paid the most that I have ever paid for a pint of bitter. £3.65. Where, Chester? Liverpool? London? In a club or fancy bar?

No.

The Castle View, Deganwy.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 02, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
and they wonder why the pubs are empty  :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 02, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
   Where is the Castle View?  Is it the old Maggie Murphys? or part of the Quay complex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 02, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
It's Maggie Murphy's Mike.       Z** Z** $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 03, 2013, 01:15:41 PM
Not bad price. You will Struggle to buy a decent pint for under £4.25 in London. And under £4.00 in Manchester.
Depending what you drink. Good beer in good surroundings normally costs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 03, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
I am a beer, not lager, drinker, and I have recently been to Bath, Liverpool, Manchester, London and Norwich in the past few months, and whilst trendy bars do charge a premium, in pubs I have never paid £3.65 before for Courage Directors or similar. The most was £3.40 in Norwich for London Pride.

I don't mind paying a little extra for a good pint in nice surroundings, but £3.65, that's taking the.....

In one suburban pub in London, it was £2.95. In the Albion, which is by far the busiest pub in Conwy it is £3.00 or, dependant on the strength, above 4%, £3.10.

Then there's always Witherspoons..............
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 03:59:31 PM
Even Weatherspoons prices have been edging up to nearer that of other pubs.

Special promotions aside, there is maybe a 10% advantage in JDW compared to other local pubs these days.

However, I now find that the average price for a pint of lager in a 'regular' bar is around £3.70

So.... we are racing suicidally toward the £4 pint.   With earnings increasing hardly at all, is it any wonder that the social life of our pubs is becoming a thing of the past.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 04:17:57 PM
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With earnings increasing hardly at all, is it any wonder that the social life of our pubs is becoming a thing of the past.  &shake&
...yet certain pubs always seem to be busy. How do you account for that?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 03, 2013, 05:01:52 PM
Last night, Saturday, the Albion was full, standing room only, very busy. Checking the other pubs in Conwy there were two or three people in them at best.

The other difference is that the Albion is clean and tidy, the beer is perfectly kept and there is no muszac, juke box or TV.

Hmmm, it'll take Sherlock to work this out...........
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
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Not bad price. You will Struggle to buy a decent pint for under £4.25 in London. And under £4.00 in Manchester.
Depending what you drink. Good beer in good surroundings normally costs.
Nice to see you back, Cat. Been busy?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 07:27:37 PM
In the past I have posted many reviews on eateries in three towns area.
We are blessed with many great places to go for a meal in this area, even though some of them struggle to survive and some have closed down in the last couple of years.
The reviews I have written have been overwhelmingly positive.

Mrs Fester and I had heard many people recommend Nikki Ip's in Deganwy, but we had never ventured there ourselves.  Sadly we cannot write a positive review on this occasion.  Nikki Ip's was very disappointing in many respects.

On arrival, despite having a table booked, we were left waiting in the bar area, without any service for what seemed an eternity.
Then we were told a table had just become free, which was strange because when we were shown to it, there were lots of empty ones.  Sadly, we were then seated in a pokey little corner, against a wall, with precious little elbow room.
A funny thing is, when you are 'shown' to your table, you must leave the bar via the door to the chilly street outside, and walk three-doors down to the restaurant 'proper'

I was expecting a large choice of quite different and exotic cuisine, given the reputation, but the appetisers and main course choice is not that extensive.
Certainly nothing you wouldn't find in a standard Chinese restaurant, but  the prices here are much higher. An average £7 for a starter, and approx £13.50 for a main course.
When I go for a meal, I like to be able to fancy quite a few dishes on the menu, and have to rule some out.
In the case of Nikki Ip's we both struggled to find anything that we couldn't resist ordering.  So rather than leave, we settled for something and ordered.

When our food arrived, two teenage waitresses placed it down on the next table and had a good giggle whilst they tried to figure out what it was.  They failed, and it all seemed very amateurish.
At this point, it became clear that you don't get rice or noodles with the basic dish, you have to order them seperately on top.  So, I had to spend extra to get some noodles, otherwise I would have had a plate of just slices of duck in soy sauce!
To be fair, the quality of the food was above average, In fact it was good. But certainly not THAT much above given the disparity in price versus comparable eateries.
Yes, food verdict GOOD... but certainly not special.

The decor in the upstairs restaurant is a mish-mash of different coloured chairs, around those little square aluminium tables.  All in all it is very reminiscent of the kids play area in McDonalds.
Toilets, reasonable, if you don't mind wading past plastic chairs stored haphazardly, and avoiding the kids high chairs propped up adjacent to them.

So, having waited many years to try Nikki Ip's, (supposedly saving the best until last) we were pretty disappointed.

There are many local eateries which deserve our custom more, and at a substantial discount to the prices at Nikki Ip's.

If anyone has a different experience of this restaurant, please make your comments heard here, because it is very important that reviews are balanced.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 07:35:55 PM
Stick to the Seahorse and the Empire, mate, can't go wrong.   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 03, 2013, 07:46:55 PM
fester like yourself having heard loads of folks say how nikki ipps was the bees knees our son treated us a few weeks ago ,what a let down all what you say happened to us ,1st and last time i go there ,the empire and east for me always good food
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 07:51:05 PM
Reviews on Trip Advisor are mainly favourable:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 03, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
For a good Chinese at a reasonable price try Yeung Sing in Penrhyn Bay at the bottom of Penrhyn Hill.  We have used it many times and Kev, Ric and the Staff look after you well.  It has all the usual Chinese dishes and a few English for those who want it.  The surroundings are not resplendent but the place is always clean and tidy and the food enjoyable.  Our meal for two including beverages is normally around £25 to £30.
I don't know what Trip Advisor says about it.
 :D :D :D
They also have a place in Rhyl.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:26:26 PM
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Reviews on Trip Advisor are mainly favourable:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html)

This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.

The Emperor buffet in Llandudno was much better value for money when you and I tried it Dave, despite being very basic in its approach.  I would rather eat there.

Yeung Sing and East are also very good eateries.
We have not yet tried The Jasmine House.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 08:37:44 PM
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This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. I've found it to be pretty accurate.

Did you make your complaints known to the management?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:42:12 PM
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This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. I've found it to be pretty accurate.

Did you make your complaints known to the management?

If the food was poor I wouldn't have hesitated to complain, but it was good.
It was the overall eating experience, service and decor that were poor....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 08:55:51 PM
 &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:58:13 PM
 &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2013, 08:51:18 AM
Have a look at the food hygiene ratings. Just type in "Scores on the doors" and you might get a shock !
(Don't bother looking for us-- We were only done 10 days ago-- and got 5- the maximum !)
I was horrified to see what some of the bigger establishments had been given !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2013, 09:07:15 AM
http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/search.php?name=&address=llandudno&x=119&y=20 (http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/search.php?name=&address=llandudno&x=119&y=20)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 04, 2013, 09:52:04 AM
It should be compulsory for very establishment to place the green sticker in their front window.

Every one I have seen so far in town has always been showing a 5.  &shake&

P.S. - Well done Nem on your 5.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on February 04, 2013, 11:14:55 AM
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Have a look at the food hygiene ratings. Just type in "Scores on the doors" and you might get a shock !
(Don't bother looking for us-- We were only done 10 days ago-- and got 5- the maximum !)
I was horrified to see what some of the bigger establishments had been given !
It seems to me that almost without exception, it is the establishments who have attained the highest rating, (5 stars), who actually post them on their doors.  In the past I have looked at the ratings for all of the three towns, but it is only the poor performers that you tend remember, the 3's and 4's less so.   How much better the scheme would be if it were mandatory to display their score, not only would this inform the public, but it would also be a big incentive to the particular business receiving a low to score take steps to improve it.  However, I suppose like all systems, the methods applied to arrive at the ratings, will be rather rigid and some types of business may, try as they might, be unable to improve their score. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2013, 11:28:55 AM
I think one must bear in mind that the rating is generally based on just one or two inspections and between the annual visits anything could be happening.  Only a complaint will occasion a non scheduled visit.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 04, 2013, 04:43:54 PM
Yorkie, are you suggesting the inspectors telephone in advance to say they will be making a visit, which is a bit like the way our state schools are inspected?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
No!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2013, 06:18:44 PM
To display the rating is not at the moment compulsory. From what we were told it soon will be. And no-- there is no warning, just a knock at the door.
Thanks Bri. ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 04, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
What do they do when they come Nemesis?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
With this new system it's possible to have the cleanest Kitchen in the world with the best hygiene practices in place and still get a 1 or 2 rating, because you don't have the necessary paperwork in order. It's now a system devised and run by bureaucrats for bureaucrats and common sense has gone out the window. Luckily for me she who must be obeyed has got all our paperwork in place after many hours of hard work. Understanding and implementing H.A.C.C.P. (Hazard Analyses Critical Control Point) procedures is also now an absolute necessity if you’re in an form of control in the food business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2013, 08:57:04 PM
As a self-confessed food phobic..... I am still reeling from the shock of seeing some of the places I eat very regularly getting only 1 or 2 out of five in the food hygiene inspections.  :puke2:

Some of our most respected (and expensive!!) hotels are getting only 1 or 2 out of five.   Its outrageous.  &shake&

What I want to know is, what are they doing about it?
When I have seen places get inspected in this way on TV recently, they get shut down for 28 days pending a new inspection.

I haven't noticed The Grand or St Georges getting closed down??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
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I haven't noticed The Grand...getting closed down??
Who would notice the difference?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 05, 2013, 07:29:39 AM
Quote
it's possible to have the cleanest Kitchen in the world with the best hygiene practices in place and still get a 1 or 2 rating, because you don't have the necessary paperwork in order

Sadly, this is totally true. Of course, they would pick up on subtle things, like a week-old carcass of a dead ferret lying across the worktop, but in the main it's all about how well the records are being kept. The big question, then, is whether scrupulously well-kept records will reduce the risk of food poisoning events.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2013, 09:05:53 AM
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What do they do when they come Nemesis?

Hollins -- As Blongbob says they are more interested in the huge book which has to be filled in daily. (--without being silly you could really write anything in it !.)
They ask where you obtain your food, check the fridge and freezer temps, check that you know what they should be and where different things are stored and ask you what temps. your sausages should be when prodded with a probe.
I think that the general impression as they enter your property counts-- ours sat at the kitchen table and had a coffee. He was pleased that the dog is excluded from the kitchen, I didn't mention Alice the tortoise, as she isn't in there either-- thought that might be asking for enquiry ! ;D
No, no dead ferrets lying around Ian-- not this week anyway ! :twoface:
The inspections were far more rigorous when we served evening meals, but you can understand why with  the meat and such passing through our hands. Now it is only breakfast food there isn't as much chance of cross contamination. He was keen on where our eggs came from though.
Oh and he also asked if we had food hygiene certificates-- which we have.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 05, 2013, 09:34:44 AM
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He was keen on where our eggs came from though.


Not much intelligence then if he had to ask that!!   I hope you told him!   _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 05, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Thanks for taking the trouble to write that answer Nemesis.  I think you, Blongb and Ian have only confirmed my suspicions that the test is more a bureaucratic one rather than a common sense one.
I had my doubts when you see the flawed system they use for star ratings on hotels where they use the amount of facilities establishments have got to grade them rather than how good they are.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on February 05, 2013, 11:12:19 AM
following the posts on the subject of "Scores On The Doors"was looking at the Llandudno page and was really surprised that Caffe Nero had achieved a rather poor 3, additionally the number of retirement homes in the area that had scored a very lowly 2, must be a cause for concern.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 05, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
   When I had a shop on the crossroads in Towyn---in the days before Asda was invented and plenty. of visitors didnt have cars. Mega busy.
   I had a soft icecream machine positioned outside on the forecourt. The health people were on a routine visit and asked to see the nearest toilet to the m/c. So I took them through the shop, up the stairs and into the toilet on the landing.
   They were not particularly happy, mainly because of the distance between icecream m/c and toilet. So, I did mention, a bit tonge in cheek, that actually the nearest toilets were the public ones right opposite, only a matter of yards away. Their answer was "Oh, no, they are definitely not up to the standard you need." Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 05, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
Since being mortified by what the weighing scales told me on New Years Day, I have been eating less, eating healthier.....
Getting down the gym more often too.
Also, thanks to Forum member JACK, I have been out cycling.  Yes, he lent my a bike and I have been terrorising the roads of the Three Towns over the last 2 weeks.  $00$
Anyway, to celebrate getting half a stone off, last night I decided I deserved a treat.

That smoothly brings me back onto topic, as we set off excitedly for Fish and Chips to the excellent Archway fisheries in Bangor Road,Conwy.
The place is utterly spotless, and the menu quite extensive.... the service is very attentive too, as you can choose to eat in the restaurant area.

Haddock, chips, mushy peas....curry sauce of the chinese variety.... tea, bread and butter.  £7.75 the lot.
The quality on offer is really very good. It is no surprise that it was relatively busy at 6pm on a Monday evening.

Just perfect, and you know what?   I don't even feel guilty!  $dins$

Also, as we walked through Conwy, we encountered the delightful Pendragon...(Hi Angie X)
In fact, come to think of it, I have never been to Conwy without bumping in to Pendragon!  $walesflag$

Anyway,  Archway Fish and Chips,  hard to beat..... and I'll be back when I reach another weight-loss milestone.
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Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 05:30:03 PM
I'll second that Fester, lovely food in nice surroundings and pleasant staff what more could you ask for and to top it all I get OAP rates,  D)

If you keep going there you're going to have to peddle faster to keep that tum from returning!     *cycle*
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Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 05:42:14 PM
I had a nice lunch in the Orient Express in Llandudno today and have always had an enjoyable meal there.   My cousin Pat was there and I've seen her there a few times so we've both got good taste.
I was a bit shocked though when she said that her brother Norman08 was an Everton supporter :o  but still nobody's perfect!    &shake&
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Post by: norman08 on February 05, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
ha ha we are perfect ,i was leaving work today and also chatted to a cousin  doreen she was saying barry has done a family tree very interesting as well .looks like livrpool only won 4 european cups lol
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Post by: snowcap on February 05, 2013, 10:03:12 PM
now then Norman, they have 5 to their credit and with an old ball for three of them
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Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 10:58:42 PM
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ha ha we are perfect ,i was leaving work today and also chatted to a cousin  doreen she was saying barry has done a family tree very interesting as well .looks like livrpool only won 4 european cups lol

Barry has done a family tree and there's some good news and some bad news.   Nain Hughes' father was Edward Burton and he was a Welsh speaking Englishman and was born in Liverpool.
The good news is that he was an intelligent man  so we know that he must have been a Liverpool FC supporter.     $good$
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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2013, 07:05:49 PM
Tweet from Badgers Tearooms @BadgersTearooms

Just heard a nasty rumour that yet another shop in Llandudno is due to be leased to a major coffee brand chain. Yes another cafe!!!! :-(

Is it the long heralded arrival of Starbucks?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on February 08, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
Who knows? Where would it go I wonder, U. Mostyn St.? Whatever happens, these places generally do a good job of fitting their coffee shops. I find it rather rich that Badgers would complain, as they hardly covered themselves in glory a couple of years ago when they had that environmental health trouble, maybe they rested on their laurels a bit (if my memory serves me right)? Ultimately, it's all different horses for different courses. Younger people like going for a coffee in places like Starbucks, Costa and Nero because it's good quality and has a nice atmosphere. Some people (generally more mature) like going to take afternoon tea in Badgers, it wouldn't be my thing but there we go..Just like decades ago some people would go to coffee bars rather than places like Sumners.

If you think about it, in the 90s we had very poor provision of cafes and other such places. there was Badgers, the Coffee Centre (which I've never been to and doubt I would to be honest), the Milk Bar, Habit, Upstairs at Clare's, Fortes, Sandbach and that was about it (I know there were more but they're the main ones I recall). They were all pretty old-fashioned (but Forte's was always quite nice in my book) and a couple were very much 'pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap' type places. Today, refreshment provision, range and quality is much better.

It's good to have range and competition in my book and the fact that they all do reasonably well demonstrates that there is a market for different types of places catering to different customers.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 08, 2013, 11:08:46 PM
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Went to the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay for lunch on Friday. Its always a very welcoming pub, I think, with such friendly staff. We sat in the side bit by a big open fire and watched the snow falling outside. Lunch was an open Steak sandwich, a decent sized portion and very filling for a 'light bite'. Recommended.

As it's my birthday, we we there today at lunchtime for the first time. It was very good, we don't eat out very often, but we were very impressed with everything!  D)
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Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
Happy Birthday for yesterday ME,              +}}{-- +}}{--
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 10:53:33 AM
Thanks Hugo!  $thanx$
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Post by: Ian on February 09, 2013, 11:07:57 AM
Many hippy returns, too, ME!  Z** Z** Z** Z**
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 11:09:45 AM
Cheers Ian!  ZXZ
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Post by: Yorkie on February 09, 2013, 04:06:42 PM
Wishing you many more miles to your gallon!   ^*^0
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
Thanks, we went out in the Jag yesterday!  D)
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Post by: Nemesis on February 11, 2013, 10:25:04 AM
Just had 2 guests go home today who, before coming to us spent one night at the Kinmel Arms. They had spent over £80.00 on dinner, fair enough, if that's what you want, but breakfast was delivered the night before, to your room, into a fridge and a table set in your bedroom. Obviously a continental type and ( Note you people with coffee fetishes )a coffee machine. Cornflakes with lump sugar to put on them !!! Ah well !
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Post by: Cat Stevens on February 14, 2013, 11:56:33 AM
I see Mr M Cooney is applying for a license on 129 mostyn street the old Gimberts Shop as if there weren't enough bars in the area. Cant quite understand why as he has a bar further up the street.

Rumours are rife regarding china cave becoming Costa coffee. How much coffee can we drink

And another rumour is that Yates bars are moving into the tudno Castle hotel
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on February 14, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
Has China Cave closed down? I hadn't noticed. It would be better I think if they took over the old Moss Chemists across the road. It's a better location I think, with space to sit outside too, which China Cave doesn't have.

I am not sure what sort of place Gimberts would be if it became a pub. I would prefer somewhere like Speakers Corner was in Colwyn Bay, a bit more arty and interesting with a continental/real ale beer selection rather than a sports bar or an Irish bar selling rubbish, flavourless beer (as good as though those places can be occasionally...). 

I don't know about Yates. It would not be viable for that to happen on its own (what would you do with the upper floors?). Unless they went into partnership with an hotel chain, or apartments- unlikely above a potential pub- then I can't see it happening really.

Anyone else's thoughts?
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Post by: DaveR on February 14, 2013, 05:53:48 PM
Interesting rumours, Cat. You certainly seem to have your ear to the ground.  $good$

China Cave (or rather Gimberts as it is now) - I believe the rent is around £50k a year on that, whereas the rent on the old Hoosons is only £35k for what is (in my opinion) a bigger and better location. Still, corporates don't always think logically or cost effectively. Costa were originally mooted for the ground floor of the revamped Clarence Hotel, maybe these chaps are coming instead, they have an aggressive expansion policy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16752929 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16752929)

Cooneys - maybe the rent is significantly lower on Gimberts, so he is moving the whole lot a few doors down? Can't think of many other reasons for doing it.

Yates - certainly a possibility, with a Premier Inn on the upper floors. Premier Inn had agreed in principle to take the upper floors last year. Coincidentally, there were surveyors at the Tudno Castle on Monday afternoon taking a good look at the facade.
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Post by: born2run on February 14, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
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I see Mr M Cooney is applying for a license on 129 mostyn street the old Gimberts Shop as if there weren't enough bars in the area. Cant quite understand why as he has a bar further up the street.

Rumours are rife regarding china cave becoming Costa coffee. How much coffee can we drink

And another rumour is that Yates bars are moving into the tudno Castle hotel

Enough bars in the area? ???

Llandudno has about 15 pubs - hardly a large amount for a town of its size and one that is very busy with tourists in the summer.

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Post by: norman08 on February 14, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
and you see them any night and they will be empty
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Post by: Fester on February 14, 2013, 11:55:38 PM
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and you see them any night and they will be empty

Correct Norm!

Mrs Fester and I went out for a few drinks early on Valentine's night.
At 8.30pm, The London, The Fountains, and Cooneys had a total of ZERO customers.

Even the famous Home Cooking Restaurant had only one table occupied.

Born to Run.... in the face of so many closures, would you open a bar in these impossible times?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2013, 08:40:33 AM
Surely Valentines is a night more for restaurants rather than pubs & bars?
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Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2013, 08:48:19 AM
After a very pleasant morning at the Quay Hotel Spa yesterday, we decided to go for food at the Olive Grove in Deganwy (opposite the junction with Marine Crescent).

Run by two lovely ladies, who I believe are sisters, they offer a selection of light meals (paninis/sandwiches etc), cakes, together with the usual hot & cold drinks. All the produce used/sold is locally sourced. There's also a Deli which offers takeaway food. Anyway, I had a Stilton & Bacon Panini, which was gorgeous.

The only slight drawback might be that table space is limited, so it will get busy very quickly. But it's very much worth a visit, I strongly recommend it!  $good$
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Post by: born2run on February 15, 2013, 12:21:23 PM
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and you see them any night and they will be empty

Correct Norm!

Mrs Fester and I went out for a few drinks early on Valentine's night.
At 8.30pm, The London, The Fountains, and Cooneys had a total of ZERO customers.

Even the famous Home Cooking Restaurant had only one table occupied.

Born to Run.... in the face of so many closures, would you open a bar in these impossible times?

Bars in Llandudno are in the main over priced, badly serviced and boring - no wonder they have no customers
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 08:59:41 AM
Like Born2run i think the quality of our pubs is crap and overpriced,i think the Albert,Kings Head,Queen Vic,Cottage Loaf,Lillys,Links,Fat Cat,Fountains are ok,only ok ,as for the rest i would never go near only on a pub crawl at a push.We can;t force anybody to spend money on their buisnesses,as we can;t force anybody to invest in a Betty;s style cafe,the town seems to be a grab the money and run place,no real investment in cafe;s or bars.Lots of these places are run by Rhyl folk and we have seen what happened there.Obviously by the time you pay rent,rates,wages i don;t suppose there is much left for decent pubs or cafes.
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Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2013, 09:09:27 AM
Have to agree with you both!

I think the Carlton would be an ideal site/building for a Bettys style cafe.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
Betty's style ---Yes-- Betty's prices-- I'm not sure about. They have always been top whack .
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Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
People que to get in so i think the price does'nt matter if the quality and service,premesis etc are good people will pay as M&S,Waitrose prove.
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Post by: Michael on February 17, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
  Hey, Wrex, whats this about Rhyl folk getting in on Llandudnos pubs and cafes. Better put your fists up!!!  (EErrr, how old are you?) Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 20, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
Mr Nicholas White has applied to CCBC for grant of a premises licence for Dr Jones Bar & Grill at 129 Mostyn Street, Llandudno LL30 2PE.

Is that the empty Gimberts shop?
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Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 05:28:33 PM
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Mr Nicholas White has applied to CCBC for grant of a premises licence for Dr Jones Bar & Grill at 129 Mostyn Street, Llandudno LL30 2PE.

Is that the empty Gimberts shop?
Yes.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 20, 2013, 05:50:22 PM
Thank you, DaveR.

I hope Mr White remembers the apostrophe after the 's'.
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Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Licence Application:

Notice of an application received under the Licensing Act 2003

Nicholas White
Dr Jones's Bar and Grill
129 Mostyn Street
Llandudno
Conwy
LL30 2PE

To Supply Alcohol I Mon to Sat 10.00-00.00 & Sun 10.00- 23.00
Recorded Music Mon-Sat 10.00-00.00 & Sun 10.00-23.00
Late Night Refreshments Mon-Sat 10.00 - 00.00 & Sun 10.00 - 23.00
Opening Hours Mon- Sat 10.00-01.00 & Sun 10.00-00.00
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Post by: wrex on February 20, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
What is the score with theBaytree hotel,scaffold up,loads going on inside,slipped through the net this one.
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Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
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What is the score with theBaytree hotel,scaffold up,loads going on inside,slipped through the net this one.
It was noted by myself & Fester yesterday. I think it's been sold and will be reopening shortly.
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Post by: wrex on February 20, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Just heard it maybe the Chatsworth
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Post by: Ian48 on February 20, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
Who's Nicholas White then? I thought the word was that Mr. Cooney was taking over Gimberts?

A bar and grill then. Sounds good really as there is obviously a market for it. Similar to Harvey's I imagine, but perhaps hopefully with fewer of the problems you read about them on Tripadvisor. Nice location, with big picture windows, I reckon it could do well, if they get the feel right!
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Post by: Cat Stevens on February 21, 2013, 10:07:15 PM
According to official source Mr Nick White is a front man for Mr Cooney and the idea is to open it on the pretence of it being a steak bar restaurant but in truth their intention is to run a fully fledged bar bar.
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Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2013, 10:36:45 PM
Great, another empty bar on Upper Mostyn St.  &shake&
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Post by: hollins on February 25, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Another  $good$ from me for the Archway fish and chip restaurant in Conwy. Thanks for the recommendation Fester and Hugo.
You are right spotlessly clean, a nice smiling waitress and good freshly cooked fish.
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Post by: suepp on February 25, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Looks lovely, the first time I went there was because it was the only place open - we had a lovely meal and will be returning.
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Post by: Hugo on February 26, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
I've got to go back there soon, Hollins photo has reminded me how much I enjoyed it last time.      $good$ $dins$
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Post by: Linda on February 28, 2013, 12:12:08 AM
Just to let everyone know that the Kiosks on the Promenade at Rhos on Sea have got a reprieve. A letter to the leaseholders this week
withdrawing the notice to close March.  This means they should be able to carry on trading until the sea defence work begins by the Cayley which isnt yet happening. Thanks to Councillor Phil Edwards and public support means the  little Kiosks will remain for now $bounce$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 05, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
I use The Archway at least once a week. Never a bad meal and always good quality food. The only other fish & Chip shop which I find compares to the Archway is in Denbeigh.
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Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 04:23:32 PM
I do like the Galleon chip shop in Conwy, it's great to sit out on the Quay with a bag of chips on a Summer's day.
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Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
Anyone interested in running the refreshment kiosk on Deganwy Prom? Yours for £12k and 10 years rent free from CCBC:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=954&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=954&o=1)
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Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
...or you could have the coffee shop at the lower Tram Station for just £8k, and £2.7k a year rent.
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=907&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=907&o=13)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 12, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
We had another look around llanfairfechan this afternoon and found a very pleasent little cafe called the Riverside Pantry, it is rated 5 on hygiene, we had cake, tea and a cappuccino, very good it was too, we will return soon to try lunch. At the moment it is open Mon to Friday, worth a try if you are in the area!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1010937_zps8e27d96c.jpg)
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Post by: Linda on March 19, 2013, 11:39:53 PM
Anyone been in Afon Conwy recently.  I was surprised they had removed the soft play and climbing frames and filled the area with more
tables, when I asked the waiter that served us ,he said they needed more covers. Fare enough! although  in the past we have taken our grandchildren as after their meal they have played in the play area and we have all been able to eat a meal in peace. The food is quick and easy if your hungry, and when they had the playcentre if you had kids with you you overlooked the fact that the menu could be better.
Having said that on Friday we went for the chip shop buffet as was recommended by a friend, it was all ok and fish was really nice. Just noted though the place was nearly empty when we arrived at 7.30. I have never walked in straight to a table before, always had to wait.
I don't know where everyone was as Friday has been a busy night . I did like the fact we were hungry and got food right away but something wasn't right. If they wanted to go more upmarket ok! fine but the food was all the same, not even up to the standards of good pub food.
Does anyone else feel that Afon Conwy haven't done themselves any favours by removing the Playcentre. ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 20, 2013, 07:31:29 AM
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. . . . . . .needed more covers. Fare enough! although  in the past we . . . . . .

Now was that a minor spelling error. or a clever pun?   :D
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Post by: Linda on March 20, 2013, 10:51:19 AM
 Spelling error whoops! I cant take the credit for a pun . I blame the spell check  ;D
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Post by: hollins on March 20, 2013, 01:33:10 PM
Department stores can be sorry places to eat these days but I have always been fond of having a good lunch while out shopping. I have good memories of my great aunt taking me to Browns of Chester years ago for a real treat.
Most these days are self service but here are two of my favourites which still cook the food to order with the kitchens visible and best of all waiter/ waitress service.
The first two photos are Aubaine in Selfridges in Manchester.
It has a great view and was originally the M&S coffee shop in the brand new store that they built after the bomb. Later on they sold the back half of the store to Selfridges which it still is.
The third photo is The Kitchen at John Lewis, Cheadle Royal. The food is excellent and on some of the dishes you can choose between a small or larger portion which I like. The service is good and you can see the chefs cooking your meal.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2013, 03:50:37 PM
If you want a memory of times past---- I can remember being taken to Kendal Milnes in Manchester whilst shopping with my Mother. As we ate mannequins paraded between the tables showing dresses which were obtainable in the store.
My treat was their sherry trifle served in a noisy silver dish! OMG I feel like a dinosaur. !! :o
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Post by: wrex on March 20, 2013, 04:37:04 PM
What about this chinese at 43 Mostyn ave DaveR,what do we know.
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Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2013, 05:43:59 PM
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What about this chinese at 43 Mostyn ave DaveR,what do we know.
In the old Fortes factory? It has consent for restaurant use but rent is pretty steep, £26k a year. What's happened to the Chinese that was supposed to be going into the Washington?
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Post by: wrex on March 20, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
Seems a waste,but nice if we get a nice chinese in c-y-d
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Post by: romanjohn on March 20, 2013, 10:45:06 PM
FU,S Restaurant   Bar    Victoria Docks Caernafon  LL 55  ITH                                                                 this is the new owner of the washington. the name FU  rang some bells i remember the      namein one of the local papers when the wash shut down  Romanjohn
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 21, 2013, 07:20:11 AM
Had a meal in the re-furbished Cottage Loaf ,very nice,i think they have gone for the Pen-y-Bryn look.
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Post by: Gwynant on March 25, 2013, 03:19:36 PM
                 I had to go to Conwy this morning and I remembered the commendations from Hugo, Fester and Hollins for the Archway Chippy. As it was getting near lunchtime Mrs. Gwynant and I had the (Pensioner's) Special, Cod and chips, mushy peas and tea and bread and butter for £6.75p each and we can both thoroughly recommend it! As Hollins said, the place was spotless, the food excellent and the service and toilet facilities first class. I have passed the place many times in the past without knowing that it was there, but it will be hard to do so in the future!    $thanx$
                 Couple of cracking jokes this morning,Ian.
                                                                                    $good$                                                               
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Post by: Ian on March 25, 2013, 04:49:03 PM
:-))))
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Post by: wrex on March 27, 2013, 10:17:50 AM
Saw some scaffolders out side thee Washington,i think they where about to put something up,of course it could just be some eccental work like a hole in the roof or something but it would be nice to think it was progress on the eyesore.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2013, 10:31:24 AM
The Wash is starting to look very tatty now. Still think it's far too large for a Chinese Restaurant.

Lots of work going on at the old Fortes ice cream factory in Craig y Don now.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 28, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!
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Post by: SDQ on March 28, 2013, 11:25:40 AM
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I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!


Or the Border Agency!
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Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
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I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!


Or the Border Agency!

I don't think that the agency can catch a cold let alone an illegal immigrant.  No wonder they were broken up as a unit as they were completely ineffective
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2013, 02:24:33 PM
They found that Chinese bloke living in a chest freezer at the old Clarence Hotel.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
Whilst in Conwy this lunchtime, we found ourselves looking for somewhere to have a bite of lunch. After ruling out the usual options, we decided to try Amelies, which is on the first floor above the former Palace Bingo/Cinema.

It's very pleasantly decorated in a French style and offers a good lunchtime menu, with prices ranging from a fiver to just under £10. I had the steak burger with side salad and a few chips (£8.95) and it was really superb, very tasty indeed.

Do give it a try if you're in Conwy.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
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They found that Chinese bloke living in a chest freezer at the old Clarence Hotel.  :laugh:

There are a lot more of them about and they don't all live in China.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 30, 2013, 04:57:47 PM
The Boss and I went out for a run in the car today and finished up in Pentrefoelas at The Chocolate Shop Cafe.  This is just South of the A5 where the B5113 crosses it.   Apart from the excellent cappuccino they have a fantastic assortment of hand made chocolates and the chocolate drink is made from real chocolate and not the powdered rubbish.

Well worth a visit if you're in the area! :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Rosie on March 30, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
Always good to have a recommendation. Thanks Yorkie $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
The new Chinese Restaurant in the old Fortes factory in Craig Y Don is to be called 'Tops Chinese Restaurant' and is being opened by Mr Pui Lee Lau.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 05, 2013, 04:25:45 PM
Scaffolding is going up outside the Wash so that is a good sign.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 07, 2013, 10:53:50 AM
Can anyone give an opinion of the food at The Albert recently? Thanks
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
how is the influx of chineses in Craig-y-don coming on.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 07, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
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Can anyone give an opinion of the food at The Albert recently? Thanks

Haven't been to the Albert recently but can recommend the Cottage Loaf, food is excellent and similarly priced to The Albert.  More 'intimate' too since the makeover!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
Cambridge Restaurant on Mostyn St has finally been sold and has been renamed the 'Cambridge Mostyn' Restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
I see the Carlton are intent on repeating their faux pas of last year:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 14, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
Shouldn't that sign be bilingual?  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2013, 05:03:26 PM
Does that mean that all 16 ounce steaks are now only 8 ounce?   Or does it refer to the degree of putrefaction?     Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Colin Flannigan (St. Davids Commercial) says that the Cafe at the Paddling Pool by Craig Y Don is up for sale - £85k.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 21, 2013, 03:15:17 PM
Now that the Albion in Conwy has proved that a decent, clean pub serving good beer (and no food) can be a roaring success, maybe the other licensees in Conwy will realise that there is no shortage of customers, it's just that their pubs are smelly, dirty and they cannot keep a decent pint of beer. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
The ownership of the Cambridge Restaurant appears to have changed hands.

It is now called the Cambridge Mostyn and has had a facelift.

For those not quite sure where it is situated then it is across the road from Barclays Bank.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2013, 11:38:43 PM
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Now that the Albion in Conwy has proved that a decent, clean pub serving good beer (and no food) can be a roaring success, maybe the other licensees in Conwy will realise that there is no shortage of customers, it's just that their pubs are smelly, dirty and they cannot keep a decent pint of beer.

The Albion?  When I went in on to occasions I thought it was crap to be honest.

Brighty lit, boring and soul less.  I prefer the Liverpool Arms on the quayside, a great atmosphere.
However, my Father in law liked The Albion as it had weird and wonderful real-ales which he likes.
To me, it was like being sat in my Grandma's back room in 1972.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 22, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
OMG Fester a certain forum member will have your guts for garters !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cordyline on April 22, 2013, 09:44:29 AM
Last week we had lunch at The Tea Station Cafe  Deganwy
Directly across from the car park

Excellent food and drinks; reasonable price too
The old pay and display car park is now free; the pay machine is rusted over
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 22, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
Fester, well done, that's answered one question.

I wondered who it was who likes smelly pubs with dirty toilets and sour beer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 12:05:24 PM
Another one bites the dust......Fat Cat Gone into administration
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Company-City-News/Six-Fat-Cat-bars-up-for-sale (http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Company-City-News/Six-Fat-Cat-bars-up-for-sale)

Property News - Colliers International to sell Fat Cat Bar chain

19.04.2013
Fat Cat Café Bars has instructed Colliers International to dispose of six city and town centre bars around the country.

The venues are located in Nottingham, Leicester, Derby, Bow (East London), Bangor and Frodsham in Cheshire and includes one freehold and four free-of-tie leasehold properties.

The Derby-based pub company, led by Matt Saunders, is currently trading ten units within the Fat Cat Café Bars brand, including eight high street bars and two gastropubs.

Ross Kirton, Director of Colliers commented “The Fat Cat brand has been established since the early 1990s and the sale offers the opportunity for either a roll out of the brand or possibly conversion to other mid-market food and drink concepts.”

http://www.colliers.com/en-gb/uk/insights/property-news/2013/0419-fat-cat-cafe-bar-instruction (http://www.colliers.com/en-gb/uk/insights/property-news/2013/0419-fat-cat-cafe-bar-instruction)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 02:10:03 PM
The Llandudno branch of Fat Cat has closed, with immediate effect.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/23/fat-cat-pubs-close-after-going-into-administration-55578-33223016/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/23/fat-cat-pubs-close-after-going-into-administration-55578-33223016/)

One more reason to stay at home.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 02:15:20 PM
No I don't read the morning advertiser all I know is what I read in the window today which was the statutory notice from administrators which stated the normal contact bumf. the property was also taken by means of a possession order.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 02:22:14 PM
I see. Not good news for Upper Mostyn St.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
Jungle drums are busy today:- stronge rumours of coffee shop going into Merrymoon shop on corner of Upper Mostyn street.
Must be insane
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 06:42:03 PM
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Jungle drums are busy today:- stronge rumours of coffee shop going into Merrymoon shop on corner of Upper Mostyn street.
Must be insane
Mostyn Estates won't permit that usage, I believe? That's what the estate agent told me.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 06:58:09 PM
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No I don't read the morning advertiser all I know is what I read in the window today which was the statutory notice from administrators which stated the normal contact bumf. the property was also taken by means of a possession order.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 07:11:50 PM
Fat Cat Café Bars Limited
Fat Cat Restaurants Limited
Both in Administration


Tyrone Courtman and Nicholas Edwards of business advisory firm, Cooper Parry have been appointed Joint Administrators of the above companies today the 23 April 2013.

The companies, whose head office is in Derby, operates a chain of 11 high quality Bars and gastropubs across the country. These include outlets in Leicester Nottingham Derby and Stoke, as well as the Bow Wharf Pub and Dining Room in London.

The companies currently employ around 200 staff, and whilst a number of the bars are expected to trade on, sadly some redundancies will be inevitable.

Tyrone Courtman, Head of Restructuring at Cooper Parry, said “The companies have been adversely affected by poor trading at a few of their outlets. The Administration affords the companies the opportunity of restructuring its business whilst continuing to trade. We are keen to explore all options and shall continue to trade those operations for the foreseeable future. We believe that those bars continuing are successful performers and we already have significant interest in them continuing as a going concern. I would urge anyone who has any interest in the businesses as a whole or in part to contact me as soon as possible”.

Any party interested in receiving further information should contact the Joint Administrator’s office on (0116) 2629922 or email at tyronec@cooperparry.com
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
I have read the same quotes today as they intend to keep the company operative with the exception of Chester, Stoke, and Landon.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Merrymoon sight especially in view of your comments regarding Mostyn Estates attitude to another Cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
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I have read the same quotes today as they intend to keep the company operative with the exception of Chester, Stoke, and Landon.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Merrymoon sight especially in view of your comments regarding Mostyn Estates attitude to another Cafe.
Maybe Mostyn are now prepared to relax their restrictions, in view of the lack of interest in the site for retail use?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
I was out and about in Llandudno tonight, and the entire staff of the FatCat Bar were out drowning their sorrows in several local bars.
I felt really sorry for them, as Fat Cat's has always had a high calibre team in place, and I am sure they will all go on to be successful in whatever comes next for them.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
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I was out and about in Llandudno tonight, and the entire staff of the FatCat Bar were out drowning their sorrows in several local bars.
I felt really sorry for them, as Fat Cat's has always had a high calibre team in place, and I am sure they will all go on to be successful in whatever comes next for them.  ZXZ
Yes, they were a good bunch. I hope that the Fat Cat is sold quickly and they can maybe regain their jobs under a new owner.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 24, 2013, 10:46:04 AM
Tempted to put an offer in Dave? I assume that the local Fat Cat was making money but the group wasn't? Always seems like such a competitive market in that location!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 10:53:29 AM
The Llandudno one was apparently loss making, hence its immediate closure. I was talking to Fester last night, saying that the generic Fat Cat operating style was perhaps not suitable for Llandudno, with its far high proportion of older people. If the concept were tweaked slightly, I imagine it would be a tremendous success.

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6234/6289377123_c9b0d45da5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6289377123/)
Inside the belly of the Fat Cat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6289377123/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 01:13:40 PM
The former Little Deli shop at 133 Mostyn St is currently being fitted out as a fish & chip shop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
I see that Caffe Nero have finally put in a planning application for change of use, a year after opening!!

Location: 81 - 83A Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Change of Use of Ground and First Floors to A1 (Shop) / A3 (Food and Drink) Use (Retrospective Application)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 24, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
I wonder if the success of Caffe Nero affected Fat Cat's takings? There still seems to be far too many cafes and bars to all do well for twelve months of the year!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on April 24, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
Good point Merddin.  There are also the less visible food and drink facilities such as at Clares, Waterstones and Debenhams etc.  All these surely chip away at the market.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 05:44:03 PM
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Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Whereabouts, Nem?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 05:46:39 PM
True story: I was passing the Parade pub on Church Walks earlier. There was a woman unpacking things out of a car outside. A man came out of the open door of the Pub and shouted at the top of his voice to the woman: "I told you to move the f***king car round the side before unloading it". Everyone on the street looks round. Nice, really makes you want to go there for a pint..... &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 24, 2013, 05:56:13 PM
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True story: I was passing the Parade pub on Church Walks earlier. There was a woman unpacking things out of a car outside. A man came out of the open door of the Pub and shouted at the top of his voice to the woman: "I told you to move the f***king car round the side before unloading it". Everyone on the street looks round. Nice, really makes you want to go there for a pint..... &shake&

I know what you mean, if the woman can't even follow a simple instruction like parking the car outside before unloading it, what is she gonna be like pulling pints?  WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 08:14:07 PM
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Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Whereabouts, Nem?

It's our old friend again Dave-- the greengrocer/barber/second hand/general store lady.---------Don't ask ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Whatever next!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on April 24, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
I hope she doesn't upset all the visitors from the Potteries because to me they have always been Staffordshire Oatcakes!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
It is almost like opening a Welsh gift shop............. in Stoke on Trent!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 08:41:51 AM
It could perhaps say Staffordshire--- my short term memory is dreadful. If it does-- my apologies.

Can you imagine bread in wholesale quantities in that small space?

As for the comments about the Parade, it must be catching. This happened outside another business further up a few years back during a politician's visit. The owner stood on the wall hurling abuse as the politician walked past. Not the ideal for promoting business.--Or am I old fashioned?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 08:44:10 AM
I see the Tal- y Cafn has been sold

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-conwy-3000536 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-conwy-3000536)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on April 25, 2013, 10:53:30 AM
If it is Staffordshire oatcakes, you are in for a rare treat.
Served with bacon & cheese they are magnificent, a delicacy to be enjoyed especially Sunday mornings.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on April 25, 2013, 11:44:31 PM
Oh yes lovely with bacon and eggs and as a sweet with honey. My childhood was in Stockport there was a market hall called the hen market where my father use to get those staffordshire oat cakes ( like an oat pancake) with the most wonderful cheeses cut from huge
whole cheeses, lancashire cheese so crumbly and creamy and stilton all of which you could try before you bought. I loved going with him, the fresh produce was second to none.Fresh Fish and wonderful hams i can still remember the tastes,lovely wholesome quality food. Now I'm hungry.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 26, 2013, 08:40:35 AM
On a recent visit to the north the sight of the fruit and veg piled up and selling like hot cakes made me realise how the markets are still flourishing.  People were queuing up to buy the produce. I used to try to go most weeks for my fruit and veg. trouble was carrying it home !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ajllandudno on April 30, 2013, 12:01:23 AM
Any update on Gimberts corner? Latest was Mr Cooney (and friends) had the go ahead to turn it in to a pub/bar/club?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 30, 2013, 12:45:31 AM
It's not a corner is it?   Gimberts will remain on the corner of Gloddaeth and Mostyn St

The OTHER Gimberts is opposite Poundstretcher on Upper Mostyn Street, and work is currently going on inside.

Whatever it opens as, I shall be giving it a try. (assuming it serves BEER)  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 07:08:30 AM
I think perhaps AJ is referring to Hoosons Corner? Nothing is going on there at the moment. A deal to open a cafe last year fell through.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 09:13:32 AM
I notice all the furniture etc has been removed from the Snug side of the Fat Cat. That side, of course, is under a separate lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 02:07:29 PM
Ombudsman's Report on the Town House/Cllr O'Grady Incident:
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000193/M00003637/AI00041570/Ombudsman.pdf (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000193/M00003637/AI00041570/Ombudsman.pdf)

...which contains the classic quote: "She also referred to him as a short assed little bully".
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 30, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
That's a heightest comment   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 30, 2013, 07:36:56 PM
How could she stoop so low?  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 30, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
  I take it that you think she had to stoop low to look a short assed bully in the eyes
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 01, 2013, 12:26:45 AM
I assume she will now resign, to avoid bringing further ridicule upon herself, and hostility towards her 'profession'  (if such a thing were even possible)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 01, 2013, 07:48:49 AM
Quote
That's a heightest comment

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on May 01, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
Now, I've heard a little rumour (but from a big cheese within CAMRA) that Wetherspoons aren't going to go ahead with the Palace Bingo site but are instead looking at purchasing The Killer in Junction.

Make of that what you will...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 01, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
How's the orchestra coming on?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ajllandudno on May 02, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
Was down west shore last night with the dogs and bumped in to a couple that had been to the lillys & they heard that the owners had agreed to sell the land to anwyl, could it be another west shore business selling up?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
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Was down west shore last night with the dogs and bumped in to a couple that had been to the lillys & they heard that the owners had agreed to sell the land to anwyl, could it be another west shore business selling up?
Hope not, that should be a fantastic business if done properly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
Bit of activity in the Fat Cat yesterday, I'm told, a local businessman viewing the premises.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 02, 2013, 11:35:47 PM
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Bit of activity in the Fat Cat yesterday, I'm told, a local businessman viewing the premises.  ;)

...and I have heard that the owner of The Lilly (West Shore) is most interested in opening the former Fat Cat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 07:04:24 AM
I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 03, 2013, 07:28:47 AM
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I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.

As Fat Cat's had already gone bust I'm pretty sure TUPE won't apply here, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 08:09:18 AM
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I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.

As Fat Cat's had already gone bust I'm pretty sure TUPE won't apply here, which is a shame.
It would depend upon whether the business or just the premises was acquired. Being as the Fat Cat brand is being used elsewhere, I'm sure it is just the premises/fixtures that have been bought. As such, TUPE will not apply, unfortunately for the employees. On the plus side, I'm sure they would be first in line for any jobs at the reopened venue, being as they know it inside out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 08:28:32 AM
Goodbye Fat Cat, welcome the Lilly Bar & Grill:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 02:26:19 PM
I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 04, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
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I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 04, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
You still sound upset DaveR,just remember half a Fat Cats is better than none. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 08:41:49 AM
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I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop
I was talking to a local businessman the other morning and he said the same about it, just not worth the rent, being as it was empty a lot of the time. The main advantage to it is the extra trading space outside it gives you in the Summer months.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
No chance of any oatcakes in Upper Mostyn Street--- shop still not finished. What a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 09:56:44 AM
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No chance of any oatcakes in Upper Mostyn Street--- shop still not finished. What a missed opportunity.
It's probably getting painted...again.  ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 10:25:48 AM
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 04, 2013, 10:33:34 AM
A standard sized glass of dry white wine, £7.25 last night at the Deganwy Quay Hotel.

Even the barman said it was mad, and the tables had not been wiped or the debris of the last customer removed.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 04, 2013, 12:25:02 PM
I can't believe people pay these mad prices!  Makes petrol seem cheap!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Crazy prices!! Your service has to be 5 star to merit that sort of price and the Deganwy Quay Hotel isn't.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 04, 2013, 03:29:10 PM
We just had a mug of tea and a bacon sandwich for £1.99 each at Caffi Cais.

Earlier today for £2 each, we enjoyed a cup of tea and a slice of bara brith at St John's Methodist Church House.

Excellent value-for-money and the service was 5 star in both.

Total outlay = £7.98.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 09:16:26 PM
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I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop
I was talking to a local businessman the other morning and he said the same about it, just not worth the rent, being as it was empty a lot of the time. The main advantage to it is the extra trading space outside it gives you in the Summer months.
I'm told the main Fat Cat premises were let for £30k a year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on May 04, 2013, 09:25:10 PM
Talk about the Emperors suit of clothes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
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Crazy prices!! Your service has to be 5 star to merit that sort of price and the Deganwy Quay Hotel isn't.

I would pay those prices, have paid those prices, and hope to again.... if my income bracket ever reverts to the levels of years gone by. (fat chance)
Because, to be honest, call me a snob, but I don't fancy spending my free time in a church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter.
Fair play to those who do, but its not for me.

Now, isn't it funny how many Forum members bemoan the closure of so called 'quality' eating and drinking establishments, (Fat Cat being mid-range)... yet no one wants to spend more than £1.99?
Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 06:23:10 AM
Most people want value for money and £7.25 for one glass of wine certainly is not good value! What that has to do with seeing shops, eating places closing though I do not know? If these places can't make a profit then they will not survive, as the Fat Cat has proved!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 08:17:34 AM
There's no correlation between the price of something and the quality of something. Perception can be that something is naturally better because it costs more, but that's not always the case.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 05, 2013, 08:34:39 AM
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Because, to be honest, call me a snob, but I don't fancy spending my free time in a church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter.
Fair play to those who do, but its not for me.

You are a snob, Fester.

Those establishments need public support for different reasons and I would hardly call Caffi Cais a drug rehab charity shelter.

In the past, we have also been into Wetherspoons where it is not unusual to see both you and Mrs Fester taking breakfast.

With two breakfasts in Wetherspoons costing around £7.25 in total, in future, you may wish to consider practising what you preach.


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Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 11:33:29 AM
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Most people want value for money and £7.25 for one glass of wine certainly is not good value!

I couldn't agree more.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
I for one prefer charity run cafes, not because I'm parsimonious. I simply prefer my money going towards a worthy cause than the already vast coffers of some multinational corporation. 

I also find the staff to be more pleasant in charity cafes, they are motivated by supporting the charity, or because they enjoy the social aspect, rather than it merely being a 'job' ..

The Caffi Cais mentioned above was already on my list of places to visit after reading Bri's report of his recent visit I will be going next week.

BUFF

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 05, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
I have paid less for a (better) glass of wine served by an attentive waiter on St Mark's Square in Venice, and in Greenwich Village in New York, listening to the resident pianist than at the Deganwy Quay Hotel, who, incidentally had an appalling vocalist murdering well know popular songs.

Whilst it's foolish to consider the cost of everything and forget the ambiance and experience, I was horrified by both the price and the experience at the Quay. Incidentally, I am informed by Mrs B that the local establishment with the best selections of wine at reasonable prices is Witherspoons.

As a real ale drinker, Witherspoons does a good job, but with the best will in the world, the ambiance is rather lacking.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on May 05, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Buff - you should also try Cafe Dewi at St. Davids Hospice - very good value for money, lovelycoffee and cakes and soup and a sandwich for lunch is more than enough for the price.  The volunteers are very friendly and yo meet some vey nice people there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
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Buff - you should also try Cafe Dewi at St. Davids Hospice - very good value for money, lovelycoffee and cakes and soup and a sandwich for lunch is more than enough for the price.  The volunteers are very friendly and yo meet some vey nice people there.

Thanks for that WR. I've actually been in touch with St. Davids recently to inquire about volunteering for them, didn't know about the cafe.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 06, 2013, 01:21:10 AM
Bri / Buff...

I do have breakfast in JD Wetherspoons from time to time, as it is good value and quality. As I said, everyone likes a bargain every now and again.  However I could get it  cheaper elsewhere in the places you mentioned, So I am not sure what your point is?   

By the same token you won't see me moaning and crying if (for example) Kava closes down. It would be disingenuous of me seeing as I don't buy breakfast there very often.

Buff, you say you prefer to spend in charity places?... and thats fine, but please don't moan when the streets are full of nothing but charity shops.   Oh, hang on.... we are pretty much already there!
Maybe you could lobby a charity shop to open a pub, so that you can swig a bottle of £2.99 wine whilst sat on a nice fold up chair beside a formica table?

I have paid over the odds in Deganwy Quay on several occasions with Mrs F, Dave R etc... but I realise that I am benefitting from a view of a medieval castle, an estuary replete with yachts, and a sunset over beautiful Welsh mountains.
I would much rather invest in that 'memory' than a cheap pint in The Carlton.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 07:49:29 AM
Can we just calm down, everyone, please?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 07:59:48 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 06, 2013, 08:41:11 AM
Fester,

I do not eat breakfast in Llandudno when I have a kitchen at home but my point is by you eating breakfast in Wetherspoons you must be eating the cheapest breakfast in Llandudno and going against your own advice.

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Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.

You will not get a cheaper cooked breakfast in the 'church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter' , as you like to call them, because they do not make them as far as I know.

As for Kava, I like the service and I would certainly recommend it to forum members but, unfortunately, I do not like the style of their coffee cups.

On the other hand, for many reasons, I would recommend Clare’s for a pot of tea and a teacake for £2.20 and also Café Express for a pot of tea and a crumpet for £1.99.

It must be my age but I do not like ordering two coffees, handing over a £5 note and getting no change which is what happens in one or two places in Llandudno these days.

Regards

Brian
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
Is it true that Buff was kicked out of Yorkshire for being tooooooo rude?
I have always liked the Yorkies for their direct approach but I think a small apology should be forthcoming to our Fester.
Come on Buff, think before you "Post", once you've hit the button it's too late to take it back.
Tosh
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 09:49:16 AM
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It must be my age but I do not like ordering two coffees, handing over a £5 note and getting no change which is what happens in one or two places in Llandudno these days.
That certainly wouldn't happen in Caffe Nero, you'd have to hand over a fiver and a pound coin to get two large Lattes!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
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Is it true that Buff was kicked out of Yorkshire for being tooooooo rude?
I have always liked the Yorkies for their direct approach but I think a small apology should be forthcoming to our Fester.
Come on Buff, think before you "Post", once you've hit the button it's too late to take it back.
Tosh

I should apologise to Fester??

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Maybe you could lobby a charity shop to open a pub, so that you can swig a bottle of £2.99 wine whilst sat on a nice fold up chair beside a formica table?

NO
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
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I have always liked the Yorkies

PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 06, 2013, 11:33:11 AM
I would love to jump in and defend "our" Fester, but on this one I just can't agree with him.
Being happy to pay 8 quid for a glass of wine doesn't make you a snob it just makes you a bit daft  :roll:
And I'm saying this from someone who spent most of last year's weekends in "that" London, where £8 is nearer the norm than the shocker.

However, I don't see how digging up Fester's posts from another forum has any relevance in this matter whatsoever.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
I am not concerned about how much you pay for a glass of wine or a coffee.
What I am concerned about is the fact that Buff thinks he has the right to abuse people with name calling.
He has only been a member here for a very short time and I think he is overstepping the mark.
I think that he should apologise and refrain from further abusive comments in the future.
I shall say no more on the matter.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2013, 02:32:48 PM
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PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?

Or, on the other hand, could be a rather unpleasant Rottweiler!   ^^^^
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 06, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
I do respectfully disagree with born2run, those posts are relevant; the posts on any other forum by a member of this forum shows how that member is likely to behave on any forum, (as in: misbehave in one pub, and you are likely to be banned from all the pubs in the area) and those posts were disgraceful.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 04:27:05 PM
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I do respectfully disagree with born2run, those posts are relevant; the posts on any other forum by a member of this forum shows how that member is likely to behave on any forum, (as in: misbehave in one pub, and you are likely to be banned from all the pubs in the area) and those posts were disgraceful.

What an excellent post  $good$

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
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PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?

Or, on the other hand, could be a rather unpleasant Rottweiler!   ^^^^

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on May 06, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
Well, here is someone with a chip on their shoulder.

I'll drink to Buff(oon) having a short life on TTF.

 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
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Well, here is someone with a chip on their shoulder.

I'll drink to Buff(oon) having a short life on TTF.

 Z**

Is that supposed to evoke fear in my heart??

Afraid not, I emailed one of the sites Admin hours ago requesting deletion of both my account and posts.

I'm merely waiting until they comply with my request, so drink away.

Great username by the way, you sound a real card.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:14:26 PM
Saying less might be wiser, B. i've also deleted a couple of words you used, as this is is a 'family friendly' forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:17:26 PM
B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:30:36 PM
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Saying less might be wiser, B. i've also deleted a couple of words you used, as this is is a 'family friendly' forum.

But Fester being "in' is allowed to be sarcastic, arrogant, patronizing, argumentative and to endlessly boast about his drinking (read through his post history) unchallenged.

Real "family friendly" Ian.

Double standards it seems.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 06, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
I'm always puzzled why people join a forum and are so controversial immediately? Seems pointless to me?  What members may say on another forum should not matter, all forums are different in what is ok and what is not to be said. Obviously Fester never thought that anyone would go to such lengths to find it and then put it on here, seems totally out of order to me! Buff it's easy to go, you will miss out on much useful knowledge, why not apologise and contribute?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
Quote
But Fester being "in' is allowed to be sarcastic, arrogant, patronizing, argumentative and to endlessly boast about his drinking (read through his post history) unchallenged.


Not really, B.  We do wield a very light hand in editing terms, but what few rules we have we try to enforce without fear or favour.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
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B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.

Will my posts be deleted as well Ian (would be appreciated) ?

May be for the best if I departed from past experience this won't end well and it's not why I came to Llandudno or joined this forum.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Sara on May 06, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Why would someone go to such lengths to find a members posts from another forum? How would they know where to look? Especially someone who has only just joined. I've been a member of this site for years and haven't got a clue what other forums members belong to. Very peculiar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:41:22 PM
I'll delete your posts if you really want, but i'd echo ME's comment.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on May 06, 2013, 05:42:32 PM
It sounds as if Buff could start a fight in an empy room.   $angry$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
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It sounds as if Buff could start a fight in an empy room.   $angry$

Ha Ha Ha .... my sides are splitting


BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 05:48:24 PM
Oh my, this guy is scary.
He moves into the area and seeks friends and acomodation and then starts to abuse people.
Keep a record on the forum of his abuse, do not delete his posts, they may be useful in the future to show how strange he is and definitely keep a record of his e mail details.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
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Why would someone go to such lengths to find a members posts from another forum? How would they know where to look? Especially someone who has only just joined. I've been a member of this site for years and haven't got a clue what other forums members belong to. Very peculiar.

Dead easy, we had another Fester style KNOB on ESB recently (Eastside Boxing) quick search led to the discovery that he was a member of numerous "dating" sites, once exposed he left the forum in disgrace never to return.

Fester also has over 600 posts on here:

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/north-wales-catch-reports-advice/246390-llandudno-again.html (http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/north-wales-catch-reports-advice/246390-llandudno-again.html)

Almost 5000 posts on three forums in a little over two years, what a sad b*stard he must be.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 05:53:04 PM
I know for a fact that Fester has never fished in his life.

It just shows the dangers of assuming a common nickname like that on the Internet is actually the same person.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
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Oh my, this guy is scary.
He moves into the area and seeks friends and acomodation and then starts to abuse people.
Keep a record on the forum of his abuse, do not delete his posts, they may be useful in the future to show how strange he is and definitely keep a record of his e mail details.

Well done I've taken a screencap of that (you wouldn't believe how illegal your statements are ... and that is my area of expertise I'm afraid)

Who registers on a forum with their "real" email address?

BUFF

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
From now on, I would like everyone to be civil, no nonsense or insults please. If anyone doesn't like the Forum, then don't post here - it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 06, 2013, 05:56:08 PM
Having looked back I cannot see where Fester has insulted Buff, a bit of banter at the most! On the other hand Buff keeps insulting Fester with no good reason that I can see? Also why all the research? What is it meant to prove?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:58:59 PM
B:would you like me to delete your membership?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 06:00:12 PM
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I'll delete your posts if you really want, but i'd echo ME's comment.

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B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.

BOTH WITH SOME URGENCY PLEASE IAN ....

Thank you

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
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From now on, I would like everyone to be civil, no nonsense or insults please. If anyone doesn't like the Forum, then don't post here - it's as simple as that.

As I've already asked Ian twice, delete my account, delete my posts.

Goodbye

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 06:09:10 PM
I have deleted Buff's account. Odd how you get people now and again who join a forum, then go out of their way to argue with people? Seems pointless to me, but there you go....  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 06, 2013, 06:24:36 PM
Thank-you Admin for removing that obnoxious oaf. I came on Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways to read about Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways not to read the drivel and vilification of a member put about by an idiot who has just found the Forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
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I came on Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways to read about Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Exactly. I will go through the thread and remove the irrelevant posts in due course.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2013, 09:49:45 PM
   Phew!!! Just looked into the forum at the end of a fairly long day. As usual,straight down to view the list of most recent posts. SHOCK. The whole lot was taken up with posts a bouts cafes etc. Couldn't believe it. WHAT HAS HAPPENED?
   Dave R barred from Cafe Nero?

   So I start reading, page after page.  well thank you to some of the contributors, not all, but some. You have succeeded in wasting around 15 mins of my time and at my age, time is precious.

          Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
    Just gone back again to read through all the messages.

    Yes, I wasent mistaken

    In amongst the insults being thrown from one side and another there is a very short post from an old forum friend, recently departed.

    No, not from this life, just from the forum.
    I, for one, would like to say welcome back. Even if your return is, by your standards, very subdued
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on May 06, 2013, 11:41:34 PM
well spotted mike it takes a plonker to join us to bring him back were he belongs. Just hope this is not a flying visit you old yorkshire pudding
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 07, 2013, 12:26:38 AM
Well, what a tizz some people get themselves into.  All because of a disparity over what constitutes 'fair value' for a glass of wine.  $drink1$

A few points if I may.
Major Mellons, thanks for the kind words, I do recall posting something which inadvertantly offended you, back in the mists of time, (an ill judged joke)...however you have the dignity to see past that and post a most reasoned comment.

Sara, thank you also, I too was baffled by Buff's unhealthy obsession with digging up my posts on other forums.

Merddin, I couldn't help but notice that a certain someone tried to taint you in this matter, but you neatly made your point and stepped away from the absurd discussion.

Tosh, many thanks for your immediate supportive comments. No one needs to apologise to me, because being called a KNOB is one of the milder things that drift my way on a daily basis.  In fact it as tantamount to my annual appraisal!
If Mrs Fester called me that, I would consider it a term of endearment!  :laugh:

Let me see, who else. Ah yes!  Yorkie...
You didn't think I noticed you slip that one liner in... well I did, and I hope it is the sign of an imminent return.

Born To Run,
Not sure what you are on about, in fact I would be worried if we ever did agree on something.
But I am going to kick your butt at darts and quizzes, (although you seem to be 3-2 up at the moment, and you have the advantage Sir!)

Ian / Dave R.... a lot of measured patience shown today by you both, but you were on a hiding to nothing it seems.

Last but not least... Buff Orpington.
I loved that name, it really tickled me, but sadly he embarrassed himself and it seems he no longer exists.
I was looking forward to a few interesting contributions by him, but sadly he went off the rails.
Sorry to inform you that despite loving Motorhead, I abhor Fishing, (and have never appeared in The Addams Family) so you have most likely attacked quite a few 'Festers' across the Internet today, none of which were me.

Furthermore, I would like other Forum members to know that despite pleading to be deleted today, he was actively trying at the same time to set up new 'fictitious memberships', I think that speaks volumes for the mental state of the person we are dealing with.

In closing, I would like to place on record that there was a concerted attempt to damage my business today, at the same time as a certain Mr Orpington was online on this Forum in the wee small hours. (He knows that I know)
A little bit of investigation proved it to be the same individual.
You stepped on my Blue Suede Shoes there pal, and this is a small town..... I look forward to having a friendly chat, very soon. A meeting of minds you might say?

Goodnight all,  and I can't wait to get back to talking about Cafe's and Restaurants real soon!

Fester (The Knob)  :-*







Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2013, 07:14:54 AM
 aaa.gif   So what is a good price for a glass of wine?  ;D



Yorkie, welcome back!  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 07:25:04 AM
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aaa.gif   So what is a good price for a glass of wine?  ;D



Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

This

Johnny Cash - He Turned The Water Into Wine (San Quentin) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQUcCaWN3Ck#)

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 07, 2013, 08:22:48 AM
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Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

I'm not REALLY back, but just couldn't resist joining in the shenanigans of Buff Orpington.  Whoever he was (is), he certainly got the Forum going for a few hours!   

Talking about alcohol, there is a pub called THE BUFF in Orpington in Kent!

And talking about wine, if anyone has visited some of the wine bars around the City of London they will know that a bottle of wine can set you back the equivalent of your monthly mortgage payment.  In fact they probably don't have any glass, of even the cheapest plonk, under a fiver.

 ZXZ
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Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
The hen was the clue-- a Buff Orpington is a type of hen !!!!

Hi Yorkie !!
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Post by: Tosh on May 07, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
Well done everybody.
 &well&
Good on yer Fester.
I see you couldn't leave us completely Yorkie.
Keep popping in occasionally, we'll be waiting.
Tosh                             
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Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
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Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

I'm not REALLY back, but just couldn't resist joining in the shenanigans of Buff Orpington.  Whoever he was (is), he certainly got the Forum going for a few hours!   

Talking about alcohol, there is a pub called THE BUFF in Orpington in Kent!

And talking about wine, if anyone has visited some of the wine bars around the City of London they will know that a bottle of wine can set you back the equivalent of your monthly mortgage payment.  In fact they probably don't have any glass, of even the cheapest plonk, under a fiver.

 ZXZ

I remember the first time I went to a bar in Twickenham with my girlfriend. A homely sort of pub, looked a bit like the Cottage Loaf (old version I'm still to witness the new design) I ordered us a couple of double vodka and lemonades and had my tenner out ready, only to nearly hit the floor when she came out with "That'll be £18 please!" Those sort of prices sober you up rather quickly I find  Z**
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
I see a menu has appeared in the window of the new Dr. Jones Bar & Grill in the old Gimberts shop in Upper Mostyn St. Looks like an ok menu, not a million miles away from Fat Cat, but the proof will be in the eating, of course.  ;D

No sign of the Oatcake shop opening yet, next to the Con Club?  :roll:
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Post by: Nemesis on May 08, 2013, 10:05:13 AM
I guess the oatcake shop missed the boat so to speak-- what a lost opportunity :(
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Post by: DaveR on May 09, 2013, 10:19:26 PM
Lots of of rumours that the Lilly at West Shore is to close and the site sold for flats. Hope it's not true.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 09, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
Haven't they recently spent on extending and renovating the top floors?  Bit of a waste of dosh if its going to be knocked down!  Personally haven't been there since Dave Kavanagh left so don't know what we've missed!    :D
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Post by: Linda on May 09, 2013, 10:45:52 PM
Welcome back Yorkie!  :)
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Post by: snowcap on May 10, 2013, 12:48:14 AM
well said Linda it,s nice to see the man back were he belongs, amongst friends.
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Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
Yorkie you have missed a treat,its very nice,as for itg knocked down,like the Penmorfa,if Anwyl come along and offer you a substantial amount  i suppose you bite their hand off,its up to CCBC NOT TO GRANT planning.
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Post by: Ian48 on May 10, 2013, 10:06:11 AM
If it's true, I am not sure if Conwy could really deny planning permission as I don't believe that area's in a protected hospitality area. If the planning committee were to stand against it, then they might lose on appeal again.

I get the impression from tripadvisor etc that The Lilly was praised for its lovely food, but people weren't too happy with the rooms and accommodation, so maybe they reckon it's best for them to play to their strengths and have a food and beverage offering only.

I haven't been in there for years and it's a fantastic spot, but I remember it being quite up hill, down dale inside. Like many of those hotels, converted from separate smaller villas, they are often not the best suited to modern hotel needs in terms of layout. Perhaps that's why we seen so many of them go over recent years, such as the Branksome, Sunnyside and the one just up from the Lilly towards the Gogarth Abbey (was it The Ravenhurst? that name rings a bell).

I do wonder why Anwyl would redevelop that though, when they've done nothing with the Gogarth Abbey, which is an even better spot, with potentially more lucrative returns on properties. Odd...
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Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 12:31:44 PM
Ijust read somewhere that Cambridge Mostyn did 350 covers on Saturday,now that ain;t bad,as we know they are not all down to the extravaganza,we will never know excactly how many where and if they did the same on the Sunday and Monday that is over a 1,000 covers for the event,im glad the cafes did well.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
I was surprised to notice the Bengal Dynasty was closed on Monday.

On Sunday, they put out their A Board offering their usual Sunday Buffet until 8pm but later brought it in early and cancelled the buffet from 5pm onwards.

I suppose they may have their reasons.


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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
If the rumour is true then I wonder if the Lilly will eventually move into our category of Local Eyesores.
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Post by: Ian48 on May 10, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
I'm very sorry I realise that I didn't mean to write 'Sunnyside Hotel' earlier, that's completely wrong. I've just realised that's the hotel opposite Fountains.  I meant the hotel further down West Parade that's recently been replaced by new housing. I think it was called 'Sunny' something. Apologies for any confusion.
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Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
Sunnymeade,run by a very christian lady.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
The Gresham, in Upper Mostyn St, has recently re-branded itself as a Mediterranean Tapas bar, and is currently having the outside seating area remodelled.
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Post by: Yelboh on May 13, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Not sure the New Mediteranean Restaurant just a few doors up will be thrilled by the Gresham's new name!
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
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Not sure the New Mediteranean Restaurant just a few doors up will be thrilled by the Gresham's new name!
Hmmm...good point!  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 09:49:10 PM
Went past the Town House just now - closed and in darkness? Do they not open on Mondays now?
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Post by: Michael on May 13, 2013, 10:38:25 PM
   Went past just now? Half nine or thereabouts. Really, David, next thing you are going to be out and about at night club times
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2013, 08:49:41 AM
Work is progressing well on the former Fat Cat to transform it into the Lilly Bar & Grill. Shouldn't be too long until it's open.

https://www.facebook.com/thelillybarandgrill (https://www.facebook.com/thelillybarandgrill)
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.
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Post by: hollins on May 15, 2013, 07:48:25 PM
We stayed in Manchester last night but this morning we couldn't stand the thought of the luke warm, expensive buffet breakfast in the hotel so we braved the rain and walked down Deansgate to Katsouris for breakfast.
I had walked past this attractive building many times but had never been in before.
We both had a delicious freshly cooked breakfast, mine the small one which cost £3.50 and the larger one £5.50. Mugs of fresh hot coffee were £1.40 each.
Excellent value, we thought!
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Post by: Fester on May 16, 2013, 12:02:40 AM
I am reliably informed that The Lilly Bar and Grill, (Formerly Fat Cat) is opening on Friday!

Dave R, it would be only fitting if you and I were to patronise this establishment on its opening day, don't you think?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 16, 2013, 04:15:31 AM
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It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.

I think I also know the gentleman, DaveR.

Hasn't he had a business before in Llandudno and has already run a successful cafe in Conwy for a number of years?

In which case, he will definitely make a success with that site.
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 08:15:11 AM
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It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.

I think I also know the gentleman, DaveR.

Hasn't he had a business before in Llandudno and has already run a successful cafe in Conwy for a number of years?

In which case, he will definitely make a success with that site.
That's good news, I look forward to visiting!  $cofffee$
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 08:31:33 AM
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I am reliably informed that The Lilly Bar and Grill, (Formerly Fat Cat) is opening on Friday!

Dave R, it would be only fitting if you and I were to patronise this establishment on its opening day, don't you think?
...only if a VIP area is provided.  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 10:31:22 AM
The company that runs Broadway Boulevard Nightclub has gone into Administration. The club will remain open in the hope of finding a buyer.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4096e080-bcae-11e2-9519-00144feab7de.html (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4096e080-bcae-11e2-9519-00144feab7de.html)
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Post by: wrex on May 18, 2013, 01:44:51 PM
Local youngsters seem to think Broadway Boulavard has been bought already,anyone heard. >>>
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Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2013, 05:10:39 PM
The present lease makes it almost impossible to run BB profitably; to make it pay you need to own the Freehold and run it yourself. Having said that, the building itself is deteriorating rapidly and big bills for repairs are not far away. One to avoid, I suspect.
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Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2013, 05:12:28 PM
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We stayed in Manchester last night
Any hotel recommendations for Manchester, H?
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Post by: hollins on May 18, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
I like the Radisson Blu best. The one in the old Free Trade Hall building.
Good location, friendly staff and well designed rooms.
Have the breakfast up the road though!
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Post by: Fester on May 18, 2013, 08:16:21 PM
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We stayed in Manchester last night
Any hotel recommendations for Manchester, H?

Cheap and Cheerful is The Britannia,  (a sister hotel of Llandudno's Grand Hotel)

I know that you like buildings with architectural splendour, and faded glory, The Britannia certainly ticks those boxes.
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Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
Thanks to both Hollins and Fester for their suggestions.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
I visited the new Lilly Bar & Grill (formerly Fat Cat) with my partner on Friday evening. Fester was already there, in fact, he was the first person through the door when it opened. The decor is much the same as the Fat Cat, the menu is a slimmed down version of the old FC menu with a few more steaks and chicken dishes. I found the food to be fine, and will certainly be visiting again. Whoever idea it was to play Guns N Roses' Greatest Hits through the sound system needs a slap, however.  >>>
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Post by: BMD on May 20, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
Costa coffee to open in Colwyn Bay in mid-June (Bay View Centre): http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx)
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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2013, 01:58:23 PM
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Costa coffee to open in Colwyn Bay in mid-June (Bay View Centre): http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx)
I doubt the cafe that's already in the middle of the Bay View Centre is going to approve!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 20, 2013, 06:38:32 PM
Bet Costa won't sell doorsteps of toast like they do !. Never had ant, but it always looks good !
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Post by: dingo20 on May 24, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
Went to the new Lilly bar Wednesday lunch time and had a really excellent burger. Quite an interesting selection of Czech beers but no Stella or real ales on draft.
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Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2013, 02:56:48 PM
The Lilly are going to have a better selection of bottled beers in a week or so, they told me.
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Post by: dwsi on May 25, 2013, 07:02:19 PM
Will they offer beers from local breweries?  ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2013, 09:58:53 AM
The Bengal Dynasty Restaurant on North Parade was raided by Home Office Immigration Enforcement officers on Thursday and a 25-year-old Bangladeshi man, was found working in breach of his visa conditions. He was arrested and will be deported.
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Post by: wrex on May 31, 2013, 08:00:16 AM
Mick seems to be taking a long time opening Dr Jones;es bar and grill,hope its worth the wait.I see the Parade has gone already.
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Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2013, 08:48:04 AM
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Mick seems to be taking a long time opening Dr Jones;es bar and grill,hope its worth the wait.
Progress seems to be a little slow, but they're getting there.

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I see the Parade has gone already.
Really? I think it may be better off as a pure restaurant, rather than a pub as well.
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Post by: Ian on May 31, 2013, 09:04:55 AM
Bodnant's brand new Welsh Food Restaurant (http://www.bodnant-welshfood.co.uk/) managed only a 2 in its first hygiene inspection.
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Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
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Bodnant's brand new Welsh Food Restaurant (http://www.bodnant-welshfood.co.uk/) managed only a 2 in its first hygiene inspection.
I was there last Sunday. Went to the Tearoom rather than the Restaurant, as it was fully booked. Tearoom seemed very disorganised - why no table service when there is more than enough staff to facilitate it? Expecting all the customers to congregate in a small corner to queue for their food/drink like in a school canteen is ridiculous. Coffee was excellent, though.  $good$
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Post by: FatAndy on June 03, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
The Amber Coffee Shop in Colwyn Bay is up for auction on 20th June.  I suspect the new Costa in town might have an effect on the bidding.
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Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
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The Amber Coffee Shop in Colwyn Bay is up for auction on 20th June.  I suspect the new Costa in town might have an effect on the bidding.
I think the GP is £145-165k and that's for the whole building. It's nicely fitted out and in a good location, so not expensive. No reason why it shouldn't do well with the correct management.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 03, 2013, 06:39:10 PM
looks as though we might be able to have those oatcakes soon !!
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Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2013, 07:58:22 AM
Ambrosia cafe in Rhos has closed down. It had been up for sale for a while.
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Post by: dingo20 on June 08, 2013, 11:45:52 AM
Went to the Medeterain  last week haven't been for a while very disappointed with the food we had kebabs and a Greek salad (very little feta cheese and a lot of lettuce not very Greek) and a bowl of very pale frozen chips. What shame it could be really good to have a restaurant that did Greek / Med food. We have tried the tapas at the Gresham which was very good better than some Spanish restaurant I've been to.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on June 08, 2013, 02:48:41 PM
Dr Jones's Funeral directors is looking close to completion. 
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Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
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Went to the Medeterain  last week haven't been for a while very disappointed with the food we had kebabs and a Greek salad (very little feta cheese and a lot of lettuce not very Greek) and a bowl of very pale frozen chips. What shame it could be really good to have a restaurant that did Greek / Med food. We have tried the tapas at the Gresham which was very good better than some Spanish restaurant I've been to.
We went to the Mediterranean on Friday evening. Service was good, but have to agree about the food. Won't be rushing back, sadly.
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Post by: Hugo on June 09, 2013, 03:17:59 PM
Friends told us last night about the Corner Café in Rhos on Sea and  said they were really pleased with everything there. They also mentioned the Deli across the road where the HSBC was so we'll have a look at them both this week.
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Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
The Corner Cafe is very good. I can also recommend the Harbour Cafe at the foot of Rhos Road. Full Welsh Breakfast with toast and tea/coffee there for £5.95 and very good it was too.
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Post by: BMD on June 10, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
The Corner Cafe (Rhos on Sea) also gets my vote. Excellent food & coffee.
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Post by: BMD on June 14, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
Well, the Costa Coffee has now opened in Colwyn Bay - was busy today, with a lot of teens there after school. A big improvement on having another empty space.
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Post by: FatAndy on June 14, 2013, 07:36:10 PM
Costa in Colwyn Bay was full of schoolkids at 8:30 this morning, no doubt fueling themselves on caffeine to get through double maths.  It was also full of schoolkids at lunchtime as well.  The cafe next door was as busy as ever so it looks like Costa will be relying on parting teens from their pocket money if they want to turn a profit.
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 07:48:55 PM
It will be nice to have a coffee shop thats open on Sunday, Colwyn Bay is like a ghost town on that day normally.
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Post by: wrex on June 15, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
Parrs in Upper Mostyn st looks like it is to be a Hungarian restaurant.
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Post by: Hugo on June 15, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
I've just had a meal of Ham. eggs and chips with a Cappuccino at the Corner Café in Rhos and really enjoyed it.   The meal was delicious, well presented and the staff were very good too.
Next time I go,  I'll arrive before midday and have that tempting breakfast.      $good$        $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
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Parrs in Upper Mostyn st looks like it is to be a Hungarian restaurant.
That has success written all over it then.  :-X
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Post by: wrex on June 15, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Something to do with the geezer who runs the Lindens i thinks
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 16, 2013, 12:09:57 PM
Did anyone go up Upper Mostyn st last nite,just wondered how busy it was with the dimise of Broadway.Dr Jones bar & grill failed to open ,i think they had planned to open.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on June 16, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
Upper Mostyn Street was comparatively quiet last night.
I would have thought a percentage of the shortage in footfall could be attributed the the recent closure of the Boulevard and further footfall was probably lost as a result of the inclement weather.

Noticably there was an increased police presence on the Friday evening. But then they dont have to police the boulevard now.
Do we assume that as the dust settles from the Boulevard closure the winners will be the those who control the local policing budgets.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 16, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
I am going out now..!!

I intend to make Upper Mostyn Street just that little bit busier....  Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2013, 06:01:35 PM
whats the latest with Dr Jones and the hungarian
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Neither are open tonight.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2013, 02:05:54 AM
I met Dave R for a beer at teatime on Tuesday, but as usual it got completely out of hand, and I find myself posting on here at daft-o'clock in the morning,
Tonight we have invested lots of our 'hard-earned' in such salubrious establishments as The Gresh, Fountains and even The Cross Keys on Madoc St.  Z** ZXZ

I find myself asking one very important question. 
'Why has Jeremy Kyle not taped?'   I'm sure I pressed REC before I left this morning.
How can I go to bed without my fix?  I need to see lots of badly dressed unfortunate social misfits being castigated and harangued on national television before I retire for the evening.

Dave, this entire sorry episode is your fault, and I only have yourself to blame.  ZXZ ZXZ
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 19, 2013, 07:19:10 AM
Not a programme that I've ever liked, but you could have tried  iplayer?
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
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Not a programme that I've ever liked, but you could have tried  iplayer?

ME, I think the subtle sarcasm passed you by on this one.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 19, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Far too subtle!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on June 19, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
Has anyone else tried Flames Indian Takeaway in Oxford Road? They have a very comprehensive menu choice which is authentic, freshly cooked to order, portion sizes are generous and a free home delivery service which takes about half an hour to arrive.   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on June 19, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
They get a big thumbs up from me. Really good take away food at reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on June 21, 2013, 11:53:30 AM
I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 21, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
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I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?

Goulash?
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Post by: wrex on June 21, 2013, 04:55:42 PM
Sorry Dingo i got it wrong,hope you are right about the noodle bar.
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Post by: Hugo on June 21, 2013, 06:11:45 PM
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I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?

Goulash?

Many years ago, I had Goulash in a café near the Golden Roof in Innsbruck and must admit that I did enjoy it.     Two years later though I read in the paper that the owners had been prosecuted for using Poodle in their Goulash.      :puke2:
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Post by: Ian on June 21, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
Goulash is a Polish dish, or so I'm told...
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
Does it contain Pledge and Mr Sheen?  :D
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Post by: Ian on June 21, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
For Poolash, perhaps?  WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2013, 11:00:16 PM
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For Poolash, perhaps?  WWW WWW WWW

I dread to think what's in that!  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2013, 11:23:05 PM
I have always associated Goulash with Hungary, and Wikipedia seems to concur with me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash)

In the meantime, the 'Hungry Hungarian' sign has today disappeared from outside The Lindens.
I am glad about this, as it was amateurish and not in keeping with the Conservation area.
However the new 'hand pained' new sign for The Lindens itself, is not much better.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 06:29:52 AM
I remember the Regency Royal hotel having a home made sign above their main entrance,some people have no idea how to run a buisness .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 06:33:17 AM
Will a local buisness man please take on Dreams empty unit on Mostyn Champneys and turn it into a local night club please.It would be an ideal location.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 22, 2013, 07:39:07 AM
How would patrons overcome the time limit on parking?

I wonder would the empty crosville garage in Llandudno Junction be too big?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 22, 2013, 07:45:59 AM
Quote
I have always associated Goulash with Hungary, and Wikipedia seems to concur with me.

I'd always believed it was Hungarian.  It was an elderly Polish friend who told me it was - in fact - Polish, but I suspect he'd got his facts wrong.  I can't find any sources which suggest it originated in Poland. From Brittanica: "The origins of goulash have been traced to the 9th century, to stews eaten by Magyar shepherds. Before setting out with their flocks, they prepared a portable stock of food by slowly cooking cut-up meats with onions and other flavourings until the liquids had been absorbed. The stew was then dried in the sun and packed into bags made of sheep's stomachs. At mealtime, water was added to a portion of the meat to reconstitute it into a soup or stew."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 22, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
Sounds like a relation of Haggis !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 22, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Sounds like something on the menu of some fancy restaurant! Thank goodness we are veggies!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2013, 11:11:20 AM
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Sounds like a relation of Haggis !

Nothing like Haggis!  We have Haggis very regularly.  Used to have it brought down from Scotland by coach drivers but now I've found a very good tinned variety on mail order.  Great with neaps and tatties!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 03:04:22 PM
Llandudno Bri,sorry but we need it in town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2013, 05:07:34 PM
For a quick cuppa today, me and 'er indoors visited the Indulgence Cafe in Clonmel Street?  Tried this place for the first time today whilst waiting for my watch to be fixed at the next door Jewellers.  Me and Mrs had a Capuccino each and shared a toasted tea cake.  The coffee was mediocre, very little froth and certainly not hot, but plenty in the saucer.  The tea cake was over cooked and charred on top, served with two small pats of butter that was barely enough for one half of the tea cake.
But the thing that got me the most was when the "chef" stood behind the small counter scoffing a bowl of what looked like Shreddies and then a mug of some hot (?) drink to wash it down.  The two female staff and another lad were just hanging around and seemed bored to tears.  I wasn't surprised. 

For its position it should be a little gold mine but with service as we saw it, it will never happen!

The time was just after 3.00 pm, the town was busy, but this place had plenty of vacant tables.

Never again!   :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 12:05:14 PM
I always go to Indulgence when in town and have no problem with it or the owner,but unfortunatley Yorkie you had a bad experience,but im sure it was a one off.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 23, 2013, 02:48:09 PM
We agree.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2013, 04:54:31 PM
I've always found it pretty good, to be honest. Maybe you caught them on a bad day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 05:41:57 PM
Rumours going around that Yates are going in the Clarence and Garlands are after Broadway,obviously just rumours but it would be nice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 23, 2013, 06:33:34 PM
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I've always found it pretty good, to be honest. Maybe you caught them on a bad day.

Well, if it is normal for one of the staff who handles food, to nosh Shreddies at the counter in front of customers, then I reckon I found it on the right day!   

My standards are a lot higher than that!   WWW  And there are plenty of other places in Town to choose from.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 07:27:38 AM
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Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.

Better you go to Trip Advisor, there you can view many other opinions alongside mine, some true, some false, and many accurate reflections of the peoples experience "at the time"!  Actually, most are good, but that does not change what I experienced.   :D

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
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Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.

Quite true.  Repeat - my comments reflect MY experience. 
Next time, if there is a next time, may be different!
 $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 24, 2013, 04:55:18 PM
I'm with Yorkie - what's the point in setting up a topic all about establishments of Llandudno and then getting vexed when somebody dares to criticise the ones you like.

I don't know much about resturants myself - not of that much interest to me but I think if Llandudno had a Nandos it would do really, really well. The other eating establishments I've experienced around here in that proce range or nowhere near that quality.

A dominoes pizza and a Primark would also be do very well in their respective fields
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 04:58:05 PM
No-one's getting vexed, I don't think, merely pointing out that they had a substantially better experience than Yorkies in that particular cafe? It's only fair to the business owner to point that out, I think?

Dominos have been looking for suitable premises in Llandudno but nothing has turned up so far.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 07:55:03 PM
B2r - no problems with me, or with Dave's comments.  We have been exchanging views on cafes etc. even before 3towns came on the scene.  I'm sure we respect each others views, on this or any other subject.    $thanx$ for the support anyway.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
No-one knows a toasted teacake better than Yorkie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2013, 08:11:28 PM
Has Mick announced his grand opening of Dr Jonses bar & grill.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on June 24, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
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Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.

Better you go to Trip Advisor, there you can view many other opinions alongside mine, some true, some false, and many accurate reflections of the peoples experience "at the time"!  Actually, most are good, but that does not change what I experienced.   :D

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)

After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 06:36:19 AM
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After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D

If you have been following me for the last few years you will have seen that I do strike a reasonable balance in my critique of eating establishments.  Only a few postsc ago I did make reference to two English fine diners (sic), namely Quaglinos and Le Quatre Saison.  One can also have one of the best Indian meals in the UK at Veeraswamies which has been open for more years than I can remember!  Locally, i have praised, and criticised, many cafes and restaurants, and on each occasion I believe my commefnts have been fair and reflected the experience I had at the time.

If there is any particular place you would like me to try, let me know!
 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 25, 2013, 06:48:40 AM
Top Table in Lloydd st please Yorkie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 08:24:24 AM
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Top Table in Lloydd st please Yorkie.

Now - how much of your money would you like me to invest in the exercise?   I will produce a personalised report for you, a couple of days prior to general release.    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 25, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
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After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D

If you have been following me for the last few years you will have seen that I do strike a reasonable balance in my critique of eating establishments.  Only a few postsc ago I did make reference to two English fine diners (sic), namely Quaglinos and Le Quatre Saison.  One can also have one of the best Indian meals in the UK at Veeraswamies which has been open for more years than I can remember!  Locally, i have praised, and criticised, many cafes and restaurants, and on each occasion I believe my commefnts have been fair and reflected the experience I had at the time.

If there is any particular place you would like me to try, let me know!
 Z**
Just to say many years ago I did have one of the best Indian meals a Veeraswamies in London. Just wish they had been a little generous with the heating in there as it was winter. Perhaps they thought the hot food would warm us up enough  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
We've both walked the walk down Swallow Street then!   The first Japanese restaurant opened in the same street just a few doors away, a place I thoroughly enjoyed going to.

Back to Wrex's request.  We visited Top Table just after 10 a.m. today and seated ourselves on the two leather settees on the left as you enter the place.  We were quickly attended to and served with a very nice cappuccino (for 'er indoors) and a latte for me.  Both were hot, plenty of froth and as good as most we have had in town.  We also ordered a couple of crumpets (a portion) to share.  Two napkins, each with a knife were placed at the opposite end of the table, and eventually the two crumpets arrived on a single plate.  Butter drips through crumpets - fact of life - so as it was known we were sharing, another plate would have been welcome.  However, the crumpets were standard ones that one buys anywhere and were very enjoyable.  My wife's would have been more so had they had any honey.  I enjoy mine with just butter.

The Top Table is very welcoming with comfy seating and a varied menu for general snacking or simple meals.  Prices were also very reasonable for a town centre position.

The only down side was the screwed up and obviously used serviettes lying next to us on the window sill and the untidy mess of assorted business cards, brochures and even a leaflet for the 2013 Xmas Fair, alongside.

All in all apleasant and acceptable establishment.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on June 25, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
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Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.

It's ranked #22 of 135 today.  Seems like the this forum has some influence after all (the latest review has a certain familiarity) :roll:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 09:35:05 PM
Probably mine, as i repeated the above on TA.    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2013, 08:35:22 AM
The Clemence Restaurant in Conwy is up for rent, £19.5k a year. Good opportunity for someone, although needs complete refurb.

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/49/189892743_83a6dbad9c_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/)
Clemence Restaurant, Conwy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 27, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
Lovely day at Rhos on Sea, a little shopping with a dear friend and we decided not to have an indoor lunch but went to the Aristadeli (the old bank building and got salads and takeaway drinks all for 4.40 each. The salads were delicious with everthing pasta cous cous and potato salad as well as usual stuff,  plus choice of meats or tuna given wooden knives and forks and napkins. Great for a healthy picnic! which we had on the front at Rhos. Just wondering though why outside the Coop a security van was at constant alert with his 'Please help I'm under attack, call the police immediately' going off. My pal and i were the only ones to check the driver was ok , everyone else just stood and looked or carried on walking regardless of this warning. Maybe we were a little crazy going to the van if there had been a robbery underway but for heavens sake are we such a nation of ignoring someone who may be in trouble. When we knew all was ok we laughed as whenever over the years she and I have gone out something has cropped up. The stories I could tell ! _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 27, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
The same thing happened to us in mid-Wales whilst we were away. The police came shrieking up-- the driver was laughing his head off!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 27, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
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Lovely day at Rhos on Sea, a little shopping with a dear friend and we decided not to have an indoor lunch but went to the Aristadeli (the old bank building and got salads and takeaway drinks all for 4.40 each.

The Mrs and me dropped into the Deli this afternoon and found it attractively set out, a good variety of produce and an interesting menu, which on this occasion we did not sample.

It is just a pity that similar enthusiasm as must have been put into the organising, was not reflected by the sole person "minding the shop"!   When we entered the shop was empty and the girl behind the counter either did not notice us, or we were invisible or she just didn't have any training in customer service.  We did not receive any greeting or any offer of assistance.   To save the silence deafening us I voluteered, "We've just heard about you being here and have popped along to have a look round."

What a wonderful buying signal - that was totally ignored, as was the opportunity to make a sales pitch about what they sold and encourage a possible new customer.

During our look round I chose some chilli peanuts and proffered these at the counter to make my payment.  "60 pence." - I offered a £2 coin - "£1.40 change."  No please, no thank you, no smile, definitely no training, probably no future!

As we were leaving another person entered and went into the back of the shop, I wonder if she was the person whose money went to set up the business?
 :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 27, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 27, 2013, 06:37:36 PM
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Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:

I think that my "negative" message could yield some "positive" action, providing it is read by the right person!   I have always felt that the Retail Industry has suffered from a lack of appropriate training.  I think the best example of how to "sell" in a Retail environment is to visit a few of the frock and fashion shops in Oxford Street, London, and surrounding area.  If you walk into a shop it is understood that you went in for a purpose, and that purpose was to buy something.  So the Staff will do their best, without being rude or overpowering, to part you with some of your money!

I'm sure you understand Fester as, I believe you had connections with the Rag Trade.    ZXZ

Mazel Tov!    Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 27, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
Fester ,did you work in Burton;s.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 27, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
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Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:

 I think the best example of how to "sell" in a Retail environment is to visit a few of the frock and fashion shops in Oxford Street, London, and surrounding area. 

So how many frocks have you got