The 2011 Riots

[crd]

Dave I am not politically motivated in any way my motto in life is from birth I am walking a long road to death and if I can help somebody along the way it makes my journey brighter
But you seem to have been like the Muslims indoctrinate by misguided Tory values F*** you jack I’m ok not a nice way to go through life

[born2run]

Question time on tonight.... would be nice to have someone that isn't afraid to talk sense, but I would imagine it will be a one way mob, very much like the BNP "special"

Indeed, B2R... When Nick Griffin appeared on Queston Time it was a joke, he was attacked and vilified all night.
Irrespective of whether you like the BNP or not, the guy was never allowed to answer a question and I have no idea how he kept his cool under that degree of provocation.

^^^^ This!!! For once Fester and I agree on something in politics lol ... I hate the BNP but that was a circus! I felt ashamed to think of myself as a fair minded socialist after that one sided brutal attack. No way could that ever be considered fair political contest. They might as well have tarred and feathered him

[born2run]

I was just reading i and looking through the list of people appearing in Court for offences related to the riots in London. They include a Journalism student, Accountancy Student, Civil Engineering student, Estate Agent, Youth Worker, Trainee Youth Worker, Law Student.

I'm wondering if Born2Run would regard these people as 'Have Nots'? 

Yes, very good 

It's very easy to cherry pick anything out of a list to help make your point!

I said the reason it started was because of the social identity and disregard of the "have nots" I didn't say everyone involved was! Opportunists are everywhere... In fact a few people have (good, well educated people) have said to me that burning and violence was completely out of order but they woudn't have hesitated jumping in and nicking some expensive equipment from a big store if they could get away with it

[Micox]

The best debate I've heard and seen was the Richard Bacon Young Persons' Question Time on BBC3 last night.

[DaveR]

Dave I am not politically motivated in any way my motto in life is from birth I am walking a long road to death and if I can help somebody along the way it makes my journey brighter
But you seem to have been like the Muslims indoctrinate by misguided Tory values F*** you jack I’m ok not a nice way to go through life

I seem to be missing your point - what do Muslims have to do with it?

[crd]

Conwy CBC has submitted a tender to central Government to supply accommodation to any rioters who find themselves homeless.
 They stated they had vast experience of dealing with feral scum from all parts of the UK and had been very successful in integrating them into the local communities in Conwy; statistics from the North Wales police showed that Conwy had the lowest crime rate in the UK proving this earlier venture had been a total success.
It was also concerned about the vast amount of money the government would spend bringing Bill Bratton to the UK to advise on the riots so Mr Ken Finch has offered his services  to advise the Government how he has achieved this, making Conwy a model for the rest of society

[crd]

Dave I am not politically motivated in any way my motto in life is from birth I am walking a long road to death and if I can help somebody along the way it makes my journey brighter
But you seem to have been like the Muslims indoctrinate by misguided Tory values F*** you jack I’m ok not a nice way to go through life

I seem to be missing your point - what do Muslims have to do with it?

I apologise if I have offended any of our Muslim Brothers by putting them in the same class as politicians 

[Hugo]

Conwy CBC has submitted a tender to central Government to supply accommodation to any rioters who find themselves homeless.
 They stated they had vast experience of dealing with feral scum from all parts of the UK and had been very successful in integrating them into the local communities in Conwy; statistics from the North Wales police showed that Conwy had the lowest crime rate in the UK proving this earlier venture had been a total success.
It was also concerned about the vast amount of money the government would spend bringing Bill Bratton to the UK to advise on the riots so Mr Ken Finch has offered his services  to advise the Government how he has achieved this, making Conwy a model for the rest of society

Is this supposed to be a joke CRD because I hope it's not serious.    These scum have deliberately made themselves homeless by breaking their tenancy agreement and it is up to them to look for alternative housing not to have CCBC or any one else pampering to their needs.   While I'm at it I've noticed that some of the scum in Court have surnames that don't appear British so I hope that if they were born outside the UK then the Courts will seek deportation orders on the individual after they have served a prison sentance.

[crd]

It is a joke Hugo! But it could be true the amount of problem families that Conwy seem to welcome and find accommodation is out of hand
Colwyn Bay is a dump because of these transients I have been a resident of Rhos for the past 52 years and the community spirit used to be of the highest order, but over the last few years we are seeing an overspill from the Bay all these people bring to the community is aggression and drugs they have no morals or respect the type that would mug their Granny’s for their pension.
 Unless Wales takes a stand and stops the rot we could end up like England

[DaveR]

Absolutely right, CRD!

[Merddin Emrys]

I don't believe it, but I'm agreeing with CRD     

[Pendragon]

Here here Crd.  I'd love to know the ratio of people who are Welsh to those who have moved to the area attending our courts. 

[Hugo]

It is a joke Hugo! But it could be true the amount of problem families that Conwy seem to welcome and find accommodation is out of hand
Colwyn Bay is a dump because of these transients I have been a resident of Rhos for the past 52 years and the community spirit used to be of the highest order, but over the last few years we are seeing an overspill from the Bay all these people bring to the community is aggression and drugs they have no morals or respect the type that would mug their Granny’s for their pension.
 Unless Wales takes a stand and stops the rot we could end up like England

You had me going there Crd because the area has become a magnet for the dross of society and nothing surprises me nowadays.  Angie has a valid question there regarding the ratio of people who are local to those who have moved to the area attending our Courts.    Could we find out under the freedom of information act I wonder?

[crd]

Here here Crd.  I'd love to know the ratio of people who are Welsh to those who have moved to the area attending our courts. 

I am guessing from what I read in the paper it would be about 70/30 in favour of the transients 

[Pendragon]

Here here Crd.  I'd love to know the ratio of people who are Welsh to those who have moved to the area attending our courts. 

I am guessing from what I read in the paper it would be about 70/30 in favour of the transients

Yes that's what I was thinking Crd.  Maybe we could find out under the FOI act......Now who do we know who familiar with the process Hmmm