Early Hotels - Questions & Memories

[emma p]

This advert is  the Four Oaks in 1934, note the comment "Back  entirely Open to Mountains"!

[Nemesis]

Mrs.Jones also said it would be worth giving Mostyn Estates a ring.......

Quite a few years ago, when I first started researching the history of our house (it being one of the oldest in the town) I found Mostyn's helpful. A lady called Sue ( if she is still there) furnished me with copies of old letters and alot of other info. I actually wrote to them rather than ringing up.

[Yorkie]

Sue is still there and is most helpful.   

[emma p]

I rang Mostyn Estates today.......waiting for someone to ring back.

[Hugo]

Are you still waiting Emma?   

[emma p]

Yes Hugo, as predicted ! I rang on the 25th August !!!!

[Hugo]

It doesn't surprise me Emma, I'm still waiting after a year!       

[SCMP]

>It was Cae Mor, then Kiddies Funland, then Gwynedd Road, then the Arcadia...I think!

The older GPS you have in cars points the car park as Abergeveny road? A very busy history!! ~ Just looked back at the messages and that was already pointed out. When cas the Cae Mor built as it was 2 different hotels at one point?

[Yorkie]

Abergavenny Road ran alonside the Cae Mor and what is now the Theatre.   

[Cambrian]

For SCMP

There were originally 6 separate properties in what is Penrhyn Crescent.  The Cae Mor comprises numbers 5 and 6.  Number 5 has been known by a number of names over the years, such as "East Lynne" and "Blackfriars".  Number 6 was known as "Sefton Gate" - its main entrance was off Abergavenny Road rather than the Parade. When they were merged they presumably became "Cae Mor".  The name "Sefton Gate" persisted as the name for a cottage (once two) off the side road (Abergavenny Road).  I think the cottage was demolished as part of the development of the new swimming pool.

The trend since the second World War of merging boarding houses and hotels has led to the loss of many of the old names but these can be researched in the Llandudno Directories held in the reference section at Llandudno Library.

[Bri Roberts]

Cambrian, are you sure East Lynne was number 5 and not number 4 (the end of the Four Oaks Hotel) ?

[SCMP]

To Cambrian:

Many thanks for the history of those two buildings, a lot of the information on the internet is about the fouroaks 'side' of the terraces.
I am sure that your right that number 6 was Sefton Gate as there is a pillar in the corner which has the word sefton engraved in it and there is another (which may have been moved when it was redeveloped) that has the word east engraved into it.

Thanks again
SCMP

[dwsi]

According to Slater's Directory of North & Mid Wales, 1895

Penrhyn Crescent was occupied by :-
1 - Tudor-Owen Rev. Edward M.A.
2 - Chorlton George
3 - Williams Richard, apartments, Claremont
4 - Dickinson L. & E. apartments, St. Bernards
5 - Penny Wm, aparts. East Lynne
     Parker George, Sefton Gate
     Riviere's Victoria Palace

[Bri Roberts]

 

[Cambrian]

Brian - No 4 was St Bernards, (see dwsi's post) then it was called Plas Pabo and eventually ended up as Penrhyn before being absorbed into the extended Four Oaks.