I am trying to absorb where we are up to with this, having been busy for a while recently. One thing that has struck me is that the inscriptions on the graves of John and Elizabeth Jones show they were born c1810. John died in 1861, age 50, so he was born c1810. Elizabeth died in 1895, age 85, so she was also born c1810.
The census we have shows ages which don't agree with these dates, so which ones are right? The grave inscriptions would be presumed to be factual, so what has happened on the census returns?
I have found them on the 1861 census, this is for sure as they are living in Tan y Wal. This would have been taken shortly before John Jones died. The household is as follows:
John Jones, Head, age 47, Stone Mason, married, born Eglwys Rhos
Elizabeth Jones, wife, age 49, born Caerhun.
Ann Jones, daughter, unmarried, age 15, born Eglwys Rhos
William Jones, son, age 8, born Eglwys Rhos.
John Jones, son, age 4, born Eglwys Rhos.
I found Elizabeth Jones and family in the 1871, still living at Tan y Wal. This shows:
Elizabeth Jones, Head, widow, age 59, Labourer's widow, born Caerhun.
Pierce Jones, son, unmarried, age 20, Labourer, born Eglwys Rhos.
John Jones, son, age 13, born Eglwys Rhos
Anne Jones, age 24, daughter, Dressmaker, born Eglwys Rhos.
In the 1881 census, Elizabeth Jones is living in Tan y Wal and the household is as follows:
Elizabeth Jones, Head, widow, age 68, Quarryman's widow (crossed out), born Caerhun.
Richard Hughes, son in law, married, age 34, Journeyman Stonemason, born Gyffin.
Anne Hughes, daughter, age 35, born Eglwys Rhos.
John Hughes, grandson, age 4, born Eglwys Rhos.
Hugh Hughes, grandson, age 2, born Eglwys Rhos.
The 1891 census shows Elizabeth Jones living in the household of Richard Hughes, they are in Tan y Wal. The household is as follows:
Richard Hughes, Head, married, age 44, Stone Mason, born Gyffin.
Ann Hughes, wife, age 44, Cook (crossed out)born Eglwys Rhos.
John Hughes, son, age 13, scholar, born Eglwys Rhos.
Hugh Hughes, son, age 11, scholar, born Eglwys Rhos.
Elizabeth Anne Jones, Mother in Law, widow, age 79, Knitting Hose, born Caerhun.
The ages vary a bit but the 1861 census gives a year of birth for John Jones as c1814. For Elizabeth Jones it is c1812. Elizabeth's age in subsequent census returns indicate a year of birth as c1812-13.
I wonder if Hugo could look in the archives to see if he can find their baptisms in these years?
There is a Family Tree on Ancestry which has this line and it shows John Jones born 1814, Llangystenin, father Evan Jones. There are some details on this which are incorrect so it cannot be relied on as being accurate.
I know Mull wanted to know how Hugh Hughes fitted in with his family. The census details indicate that Hugh Hughes was a nephew of Pierce Jones. Pierce's sister Anne married Richard Hughes and Hugh was their son. Hugh was born 1879.
I hope this fits another piece of the jigsaw into place but we are still seeking the years and birth and baptisms for John and Elizabeth Jones, nee Williams.
Helig.