William Herbert Hughes abt 1896 to ?

[Hugo]

PhilMick,  I was in the Archives today and there's a lot of info to look at but unfortunately didn't get anything about William Herbert,
Those Street Indexes I have referred to only list one  person living at an address and in the one I looked at J H Hodson  a baker was living at 7 Alexandra Road.
What I was really after was the Register of Electors for any year from 1939 to 1955 as there was a William Herbert Hughes living in Endsleigh Road Old Colwyn during those years and if there was an Ellen Elizabeth living there too then there would be a good chance that they are your relatives.
Unfortunately the Archives do not have the records for that area and couldn't tell me where I could find them.
The National Library in Aberystwyth may have the records but before any contact is made it would be better to find out exactly which ward Endsleigh Road would be in.
I tried the computers but drew a blank there too

[Cambrian]

Hugo - I suspect the Electoral Registers for Colwyn Bay post war will be at the Denbighshire Archives in Ruthin.  As there was no Archive in what became Conwy CBC in 1996, Colwyn Borough sent much material there including pre-1974 records of predecessor authorities.  Incidentally, as you will probably know, there is a great deal of Conwy's material in Ruthin, Denbigh and Caernarfon archives. I think they have been persuaded to transfer some to Conwy but by no means all.

[Hugo]

Cambrian,  you are probably right with that.   A lot of stuff relating to Colwyn Bay in particular went there and it's a shame because the Burial Indexes are a useful means of research and the only one in the Conwy Archives for the Colwyn Bay area is a Burial Index for St Catherine's in Old Colwyn.
Those Register of Electors I was looking for could also have been helpful here.

[karenjadejoy]

HI Folks,

You're right Meleri, it appears that it's no more than a coincidence.   It's a shame really because it's nice to link up families on the forum.
I don't subscribe to Ancestry or FMP  so I use the computer in the Archives if I'm looking for someone but haven't done so for William Herbert yet.
It's still a mystery for him after 1922 but I'm sure something will come to light in the future.

i have no info on ms Byatt, or william herbert Hughes in my tree, it does seem a co incidence at this time......  and my william Hughes son of robert is also on a memorial at glodaeth st. (cant work out if he died or lived!) He was living at baron hill in 1914.   watching this topic with interest. 

[PhilMick]

Karen - where is the memorial?

Phil

[Hugo]

Is he the same William Hughes of Spencer Cottage whose name is on the Cenotaph on Llandudno Promenade? 

[PhilMick]

No - he's different.

[karenjadejoy]

 

Karen - where is the memorial?

Phil

Phil,
 i found it online,  see link below.  my william hughes  of Baron Hill, and there is also a WH hughes  15 madoc street,  where the actual memorial is i believe is Glodaeth Street. Llandudno.   (my welsh is not so good as to what it actually says,lol) . 
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drwardetl.asp?cat=2435&doc=2710&mid=23&mid1=23

[mull]

Are these the names of men who died or those that survived ?

[Cambrian]

I think this is a memorial at Seilo Chapel.  It only records members of the Welsh Presbyterian chapels in Llandudno and so is not an exhaustive list of everyone who served in WW1 from Llandudno.

[Helig]

I have just come across this thread and thought I would look to see if I could find any information on William Herbert Hughes after 1922.


There is a Family Tree on Ancestry for William Herbert Hughes born 29 April 1896, Liverpool, plus for his wife, Ellen Elizabeth Byatt, born 1900, Godley Brook, Dilhorne, Staffs. This ends in 1922 on his marriage.

There is no further information after this date, same for his wife. It shows "death unknown". I cannot find a death for his wife either. I tried a search to see if there were any births registered for children, surname Hughes, mother's maiden name Byatt, nothing came up on FreeBMD.

It looks likely that they emigrated, or left the Llandudno area at least. The Llandudno Street Directories, or Commercial, directories may reveal where the family members lived over the years. These are held in Llandudno library as well as the archives.

The Family Tree shows William Herbert Hughes had siblings as follows:

John Howard Jones Hughes 1885-1937
Margaret Ann Hughes 1887-1956
Gwladys Hughes 1890-1959
Jane Hughes 1894-1928
Robert Edward Hughes 1899-1937
Gwenneth Myfanwy Hughes 1904-1981
Alun Aled Hughes 1905-1954

The siblings all died in North Wales, Jane in Llandudno, John in Conwy, Robert in Llandudno, Alun in Caernarfon, Margaret in Llandudno (shown as having died at 15 Alexandra Road, Llandudno)Gwladys in Conwy, Gwenneth in Llandudno.

I don't know if you have tried to trace the descendants of the siblings to see if they can help with information on William Herbert Hughes.

It occurred to me that you may be the person with the tree on Ancestry, so apologies if I have provided information you have already.

Helig.

[Hugo]

Helig,  that's a lot of info that you have provided but William Herbert Hughes is still elusive after 1922.     It isn't a common name for this area but I did find a William Herbert Hughes in the Street Indexes who lived in Old Colwyn from 1939 to 1955. Unfortunately I can't see  the Register of  Electors for those periods.  I think that they are in Denbigh Archives but I never go there. 
You mentioned emigration, and I did see two William Herbert Hughes' who emigrated soon after 1922 but couldn't follow them up as they were on Ancestry and I don't subscribe to that.
So for the time being it still remains a mystery.

[PhilMick]

It's my wife's family tree. Jane Hughes is her maternal grandmother. Her ggm, Mary Grace (Jones), is the daughter of a Llandudno family - born at Ty Newydd during 1864. She married an Yasceifiog man, John William, in 1884 at Holywell. Some of the children were born in Holywell, and some in Toxteth Liverpool.  The family moved from Toxteth to Llandudno, 7 Alexander Road, around 1906/07.

Finding anything about William and  Ellen after their marriage in 1922 has proved unsuccessful. No children registered and no deaths registerd - that I and others can find.

The positive side is that I have lots more information now after asking the forum.

[PhilMick]

We are inteested in finding more about William's 1WW military history and also his brothers: John Howard Jones Hughes; and Robert Edward Hughes. Aled, would have been too young.

If anyone can help I'll post what we have so far.

Phil

[PhilMick]

Post above should read 15 Alexander Road