Well, thats what I thought---but I was'ent sure. Nice to have expert advice confirming my guess. I'm not too sure whether or not this is the correct place to ask this, but here goes. You say the flowers on the orme are pretty tough. But, so are a lot of the human residents. Do you know a lady who lives on Tyn y Coed Road, I believe works for Social Services and knows a lot about the Ormes wild flower life---I believe she even takes groups of interested people on informal walks around. The reason I ask is that she frequently walks down to town through the golf course and always has a medium size dog (dont ask me what breed, at a guess Heinz 57, ). I havent seen her for about five or six weeks, very unusual. Anyway yesterday the dog arrived, by itself. I gave it a bit of biscuit and tried to get it on a bit of old rope I had, it wears a collar, but it wasent having any of that. It took off towards Tyn y Coed, I followed, it went into a garden, the gate was open, so I ran behind, shut the gate, and knocked on the door. No answer. So I left the dog in the garden, it obviously knew the place, its tail was wagging when I knocked on the door. Any ideas? Its just a worrying niggle in my mind!!