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Re: CCBC: Cuts and cutting
« Reply #150 on: October 05, 2014, 04:52:57 pm »
Committee meetings are generally a sham, in my view. The real decisions are taken by Council staff, who may have their own agendas to propogate and who, of course, are not accountable in any way to the electorate.  &shake&

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« Reply #151 on: October 05, 2014, 05:19:34 pm »
Committee meetings are generally a sham, in my view. The real decisions are taken by Council staff, who may have their own agendas to propogate and who, of course, are not accountable in any way to the electorate.  &shake&
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Re: CCBC: Cuts and cutting
« Reply #152 on: October 08, 2014, 06:24:59 pm »
£146m axed from council budgets in Wales

Councils in Wales have been told they will get £146m less in 2015-16 from the Welsh government.

Public Services Minister Leighton Andrews said local authorities will get £4.12bn in their block grants - an overall cut of 3.4% on this year.
Ministers insist none of Wales' 22 councils will see an individual cut of more than 4.5%.

Conservative shadow local government minister Janet Finch-Saunders described Mr Andrews' announcement as a "tough Labour settlement", arguing Labour ministers should have frozen council taxes, a policy followed in England and Scotland.
"This would have eased the pressure on hardworking families and facilitated the prevention of huge hikes in bills," she added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-29539935

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« Reply #153 on: October 08, 2014, 09:08:19 pm »
North Wales council tax payers warned to expect bigger bills as services face cuts

Council tax payers in North Wales were warned to expect bigger bills as services are axed under a tough financial squeeze.
Leaders of local authorities warned ‘a tipping point’ had been reached in finances that could result in the ‘disappearance of key services’.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-council-tax-payers-7906036

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« Reply #154 on: October 09, 2014, 08:28:12 am »
While I think some councils/councillors across Wales have been at least a smidgen guilty of wanting to protect their positions when opposing mergers, many have voiced a reasonable set of grievances with the proposed plans. Calling the proposals set out in the White Paper "options" was something of a contradiction in terms (it was option one and er...that's it!), and the WG hasn't set out much in the way of guidance on how much the whole thing is going to cost.

I'm all for a "spend to save" mentality and if, in the long run, that's what the Welsh Government wants to do then bully for them - but bringing in a bureaucratic reshuffle at a time widely touted as one of public sector austerity is an own goal on the government's part.

There needs to be far more discussion over a wider set of options (redrawing the maps and boundaries altogether would be a good start - the example of Llangollen cited earlier on hits the nail on the head; I've friends there and they've always said their links are strongest with Wrexham, and they'd be out on a limb if they were incorporated in to a new Conbighshire/Dinwy authority).

While it might be regressive, I'd think we couldn't go far wrong in bringing back something a bit like the old Gwynedd and Clwyd authorities. The major obstacle they'd have to avoid is forcing people to drive dozens of miles if they had any problems with their civic services (that said, people in Ysbyty Ifan, which falls under Conwy Borough, already have to drive 20-odd miles if they want to get to Bodlondeb).

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« Reply #155 on: October 09, 2014, 10:18:42 am »
BBC WALES NEWS VIDEO

Council cuts and senior managers' pay
8 October 2014 Last updated at 21:51 BST
As councils have been told their budgets will be slashed by £146m next year, BBC Wales economics correspondent Sarah Dickins considers whether savings could be made by cutting the wage bill for senior managers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29546626

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Re: CCBC: Cuts and cutting BUDGET CUTS
« Reply #156 on: October 09, 2014, 02:55:03 pm »
North Wales council budgets slashed by up to 4.3 per cent

Conwy County Council is the region's hardest hit authority in the Welsh Government's Budget settlement for the 2015-2016 financial year, with a drop from £158 million down to £151.2 million.

“These cuts will inevitably lead to further cuts in services and I am concerned that households in both Conwy and Denbighshire will see yet another increase in their council tax as a result. “

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139231/north-wales-council-budgets-slashed-by-up-to-4-3-per-cent.aspx

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« Reply #157 on: October 10, 2014, 01:11:01 pm »
GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS
Best thread I could think of for this.....Over the weekend, our low level street sign broke all but one of it's rivets, the result a clanging, dangerous obstacle especially for children, I did a quick fix with some wire, and yesterday phoned the council and reported the fault, and as I type, I can hear the drilling and replacement rivets being fitted, job finished in 10 minutes, now you cannot complain over that can you,all done in 24 hours, makes a change from what you usually hear on here..... $good$

Now then yesterdays phone call, approx 30 minutes, I am not complaining about the delays or being shuttled from one dept. to another, but,.... it took me 20 min's. to convince them we did not need a new sign...without question they were going to have a new sign made, I said the sign was in perfect condition and if they were quick, it only needed a few rivets, and would save money, It got through when I said tax payers money... $angry$

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« Reply #158 on: October 10, 2014, 07:48:07 pm »
  Very good SteveH. But how many of us have the time and the patience to do what you did. I'm afraid I hav'ent. If I hadn't hung up the phone in desperation, I would have said "please yourself if you want to stick a new sign up." There we are, you are to be admired but my slightly volatile patience wouldn't have let me do it.
  Whilst in this thread Jonty Hammers stated he thought it might be a bit regressive to bring back something like the old giant Gwynedd and Clwyd county councils.
   Yes, you could be right. But don't forget it was'ent just these two super councils and they were broken up and the new boundaries.
   Its a good while ago, over 25 years, but I am reasonably sure a whole tier of local government was wiped out at the same time. I think it was the big two, then smaller councils like Rhyl, Llandudno, then very small parish councils, town councils call them what you like.
   So you could have three councils operating in the same patch. As an example the big councils were responsible for the main transport road links, the A55 as an example. But smaller roads, maybe Mostyn Street, would be Llandudnos responsibility. I do know that this led to friction between councils. I remember some village council laying in to Clwyd in the enormous Shire Hall in Mold because one of their lorries was being parked at night and they claimed in was damaging their village green.

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« Reply #159 on: October 11, 2014, 12:27:42 am »
Conwy Council and others are stating very clearly that the new level of funding will lead to both increased Council Tax bills, and some reduction in essential services.

Well, I am sick of such talk when we are being taxed to death, yet there are armies of managers on SIX figures salaries.
I would say that some some essential services have been been reducing already.

When you gave someone the title 'Manager', and incidentally pay them an enormous sum, is it unreasonable to expect them to 'Manage'?   $angry$ $angry$

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« Reply #160 on: October 11, 2014, 08:15:08 am »
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there are armies of managers on SIX figures salaries.

How many in CCBC enjoy that level of remuneration?
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« Reply #161 on: October 11, 2014, 08:59:07 am »
When we had Gwynedd and Clwyd, we also had District or Borough Councils which provided most of the traditional local government services - waste, housing, public health, planning, leisure facilities and so on.  The two Counties dealt principally with education, social services, highways, fire service and strategic planning.



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« Reply #162 on: October 11, 2014, 09:05:24 am »
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there are armies of managers on SIX figures salaries.
How many in CCBC enjoy that level of remuneration?
Slightly related to the above, I still would like to see a breakdown of the Venue Cymru yearly salary amount of £1.700,000.... >>>

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« Reply #163 on: October 11, 2014, 07:23:59 pm »
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there are armies of managers on SIX figures salaries.

How many in CCBC enjoy that level of remuneration?

I hoped you wouldn't ask me that, but.... from memory recall that over 200 CCBC officials earn more than £60k per year.
Something like 60 employees earn more than £100k per year.   I believe that the CEO gets approx £200k (or did)
I think I saw the exact figures quoted on here a couple of years ago, but it might have been Oscar, or it might have been the Weekly News.
I remember being astounded at the time.
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« Reply #164 on: October 14, 2014, 02:05:41 pm »
Conwy County Council facing 'worst case scenario' budget cuts

CONWY County Council is facing a “worst case scenario” with its funding slashed 4.3 by the Welsh Government.
The county is the hardest hit in the region in last week’s Welsh Government Budget settlement for 2015-2016, with the biggest funding drop from £158 million down to £151.2 million.
The council’s finance bosses are looking at “additional income from Council Tax” as a result.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139414/conwy-county-council-facing-worst-case-scenario-budget-cuts.aspx