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« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2014, 12:39:50 pm »
It will certainly be a very interesting time when all these cases start.  ZXZ

I can recall myself quite a few other blogs besides Oscars that defamed local people, not to mention twitter accounts. I can even recall one twitter account a couple of years back where someone had posted photos of me on it stolen from another website for some bizarre reason!

One has to wonder at the mental health of people who do such things....  &shake&


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« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2014, 01:33:11 pm »
An interesting read, first published Feb, 2013.  Scroll down for part one.

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« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2014, 03:11:46 pm »
Looks like Mr Bebb may have cause to regret his rash behaviour. Will he take up Mr Moore's challenge, I wonder? Somehow I think not....


David Jones and Dylan Moore deny penning 'Oscar' blog

David Cornock Parliamentary correspondent, Wales

The fall-out from last night's adjournment debate continues with the arrival of statements from two of those linked to the late Thoughts of Oscar blog.

One of them - solicitor Dylan Moore - has challenged Guto Bebb to repeat his allegations outside parliament.

Former Welsh Secretary David Jones said: "Yesterday evening, under conditions of Parliamentary privilege, Guto Bebb MP made allegations as to the authorship of an internet blog known as "Thoughts of Oscar".

"To address any perceived ambiguity in Mr Bebb's address to the House, I wish to make it clear that I was not involved in the authorship of the blog. I understand that the blog's true author had already admitted, prior to Mr Bebb's appearance in the House, that he had acted alone."

Mr Moore said in his statement: "I wish to reply to allegations made by Mr Guto Bebb MP in Parliament on 9th September under the cover of parliamentary privilege.

Mr Bebb's allegation that I am in any way, or have ever been, involved in the Thoughts of Oscar blog or, indeed, any other blog is completely untrue.

"I invite Mr Bebb to make the same allegation outside Parliament.


"The author of the blog (Mr Nigel Roberts) issued a statement (prior to Mr Bebb's speech) making it clear he was its sole author. I note Mr Bebb made no reference to that matter in his speech.

"Those who know me - family, friends and clients - know full well that the allegation is nonsensical. It is well known locally that I do not tweet, text or use a mobile phone.

"I have no interest whatsoever in local politics or the bitchy backbiting that appeared to take place on this blog.

"When I became aware of the allegations I immediately tried to speak to Mr Bebb. I left messages inviting him to discuss the matter with me. He did not respond. Had he done so I would have told him that I myself was the victim of harassment from this blog some years ago.

"I know therefore from my own experience the effect such anonymous comments can have on innocent individuals. I am delighted that this blog has closed.

"I am appalled that any Member of Parliament, let alone my own MP, should throw an innocent constituent to the wolves in this way and hide under the cloak of parliamentary privilege."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-29141805

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« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2014, 11:49:26 pm »
Listening to the BBC Wales News tonight, when this story was mentioned, very near to the top of the news, I noticedk (and was amused by) by several things.

1, The vast majority of Welsh viewers are from South Wales, and they must have been wondering what the hell this article was about, and why it was worthy of such high billing on the 'national' news.

2, How could Guto Bebb claim Police collusion, when the Oscar blog was such a savage critic of the N Wales Police?

3, The only names mentioned in connection with the Oscar Blog story were the 2 guys who claim to have NOTHING to do with it,  whilst the guy who has admitted to doing EVERYTHING, was not deemed worthy of a mention.  Why is that?

What a strange old world we live in.

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« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2014, 07:18:42 am »
It's very odd. Somehow I doubt we've heard it all, by a long way.
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

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« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2014, 08:39:57 am »
Will Guto Bebb dare to repeat the allegations in public? The ball is most certainly in his court.  >>>

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« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2014, 08:53:19 am »
It's very odd. Somehow I doubt we've heard it all, by a long way.

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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2014, 09:17:38 am »
Will Guto Bebb dare to repeat the allegations in public? The ball is most certainly in his court.  >>>

I'm no law expert. But didn't Michael Creamer already make these allegations in public? Therefore shouldn't it be him that gets into any civil libel trouble not Guto Plebb who is merely repeating, albeit for his own means, what Creamer has said.

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« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2014, 09:21:55 am »
Will Guto Bebb dare to repeat the allegations in public? The ball is most certainly in his court.  >>>

I'm no law expert. But didn't Michael Creamer already make these allegations in public? Therefore shouldn't it be him that gets into any civil libel trouble not Guto Plebb who is merely repeating, albeit for his own means, what Creamer has said.
I think it comes down to how widely the allegation was disseminated and the stature of the person making the allegations. As an MP, Guto's allegations have been widely reported in the press, so would be seen to be far more damaging to the reputation of the injured party than the ramblings of some random person from Conwy.

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« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2014, 12:08:46 pm »
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!

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« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2014, 12:21:39 pm »
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!


Or on the contrary he knew exactly what he was doing by using Parliamentary Privilege to release the names into the public domain.
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« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2014, 12:27:20 pm »
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!


Or on the contrary he knew exactly what he was doing by using Parliamentary Privilege to release the names into the public domain.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But from what I saw he didn't release all three names - he left out **********?

No names, please! DaveR
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« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2014, 01:57:41 pm »
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!


Or on the contrary he knew exactly what he was doing by using Parliamentary Privilege to release the names into the public domain.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But from what I saw he didn't release all three names - he left out **********?

No names, please! DaveR


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