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Offline Ian

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« Reply #495 on: February 22, 2013, 07:32:58 am »
Is the 'interview' the part of the prog where he was ambushed by the Beeb's reporter as he was entering the council offices?
 
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« Reply #496 on: February 22, 2013, 08:16:03 am »
Yes, but only because CCBC had not replied to any of the BBC's requests for an interview over the preceding work.

These people at CCBC need to understand that they work for us and are accountable to us. They are the servants of the people, not the masters, and it does them no harm to be reminded of this from time to time.  $good$


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« Reply #497 on: February 22, 2013, 09:46:47 am »
Right.  Yes - I agree, Dave, and they're altogether too anxious to try to hide what they're up to or their own failings.  However, on the incident of the reporter, I think the CE did the right thing. Having any sort of interview on the spur of the moment when what you said could be edited and replayed endlessly would have been a very bad tactic.

Although, you could argue that applying for the job of CE in a county which is quite widely regarded as a nest of vipers curled around a poisoned chalice he should take the fall...

Edit:  I've edited this post as several things had been changed by auto-correct, which is beginning to annoy me.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2013, 10:00:09 am by Ian »
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« Reply #498 on: March 22, 2013, 11:06:15 am »
I see that the Llandudno Town Council spending will rise from £322,222 to £458,079 this coming year. This is a significant rise!

At a time when so many people are struggling to pay basic bills, can such a large rise be justified and what is it intended that the extra money raised will be spent on?

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Re: Local Politics
« Reply #499 on: March 22, 2013, 12:11:50 pm »
Wonder if it is worth it.  Looking at the press it seems just a playground for some County Cllrs to have a pop at Conwy for publicity.

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« Reply #500 on: June 26, 2013, 10:20:17 am »
Resignation letter of former County Councillor, Paul Roberts, taken from Oscar's blog. It's hard to disagree with a lot of what he says - some Councillors may be very nice people but are in completely over their head, just not up to the job:


Dear All,

Firstly I would like the thank the residents of Caerhun who gave me the opportunity to represent them at Council and offer my apologies that I do not feel I can continue in this role for the full term.

It was with a great deal of thought and sadness that I felt compelled to resign as a Conwy County Councillor. I felt I could make a positive contribution and so worked incredibly hard to win my seat with one of the biggest upsets during the election in Wales beating Goronwy Edwards the ex-leader of the council (one of the 'old guard' councillors) at my very first attempt. That, to me anyway, said a lot about how hard I worked to win the seat and also worryingly for Goronwy Edwards I also think it said a lot about how many people locally felt towards his approach to being a councillor representing them for nearly two decades. I trust he has learnt from the experience of being beaten by a 'novice' not only once but twice in a year as he also lost in Deganwy some months later. That lesson could be used wisely to contribute more thoughtfully to Conwy residents in the future. One earns a seat, it is not a right.

I genuinely wanted to make a postive difference and believed I could. I wanted to fulfil my obligations to those who live in Caerhun first and foremost, however having spent a year in council I simply cannot continue in the role within an organisation that I do not believe has a real appetite for change and one where keeping the status quo seems to be more of a priority. I still believe our council wastes money hand over fist, lacks full accountability and transparency, engages in closed door back-slapping diplomacy and lacks any 'real' conviction to become a dynamic inspiring authority that could set the highest of standards for others councils in Wales to follow. We are still a relatively poor county compared to the rest of the UK and on that basis the status quo simply isn't working. We can thank years of Labour and Plaid for that and they are still holding the power base. Wales simply isn't performing to support its residents and more radical openness, co-operation and change is needed to improve the lives of its citizens. This is unlikely to happen given the Labour/Plaid stranglehold on power which is consigning our country to low standards of living, health and education. But still they hold power. I am a councillor…get me out of here..!!

I am proud of the contribution I have made to my local community with efforts to try to raise awareness from rural road safety, being a school governor, supporting local residents in problems with housing associations and police co-ordination, supporting local farm diversification, supporting the red lion pub project and also helping facilitate the Rowen Community Group to garnish the support of the whole of its community to work more effectively are a number that spring to mind. Also as one of the more vocal members of the Principle Scrutiny Committee, I leave knowing I have contributed to the residents through my detailed and often outspoken questioning of officers. Whilst respecting the protocols and work of the officers, it is a councillors duty to challenge them and their ideas more thoroughly than at times I saw witnessed.

Councillors scrutinise and at times often bemoan the skills of some officers whilst at the same time many of those same councillors are woefully under skilled themselves for the portfolios they are often are in charge of. This makes no sense to me and is purely political nonsense from the political leadership of the council. How else could you have people like Dilwyn Roberts (Plaid) be leader of Conwy Council with Ronnie Hughes (Labour), Dave Cowans (Labour) and Chris Hughes (Labour) in such positions of authority and responsibility. How are they qualified for this…? Cllr Joan Vaughan said it recently at the last principle scrutiny committee I attended. She was the portfolio holder that oversaw the Maesdu Bridge mismanagement and over spend. When I challenged her about her accountability as holder she said she was not an engineer and she cannot be held accountable? I like Joan personally but this sort of response, that is not uncommon amongst councillors, leaves me dumbfounded. A portfolio holder paid by the tax payer should be responsible for their portfolio and be skilled enough to undertake the role. It if goes wrong they should go. It is just this lack of accountability and transparency and jobs for the boys mentality that has made me want to end my association with the council.

One of the reasons why this happens is that I feel some forget why they become councillors in the first place. Whilst a very time consuming role indeed it is an honourable role of public service and duty, not a career or a job. In my own opinion the quality and calibre of some of the councillors is below par and some have such a lacklustre attitude to their roles that they may as well not bother wasting tax payers money by being there. The cynical approach to remuneration of councillors sickens me and means I am simply pushing at a closed door when I call for councillor's allowances to be reduced and pension rights given up and donated back to the coffers. Pensions alone are budgeted to cost somewhere in the region of £150,000 this year so rather than some councillors pocketing that money it could be spent on local community projects instead.

Having been a vocal representative of the residents of Caerhun and Conwy to reduce the costs of councillors I was a lone voice. Councillors have been voting for cuts across the board in so many areas that affects so many peoples lives and bizarrely they will not vote to opt out of councillors receiving pensions and also will not vote to cut the allowances and expenses that councillors receive for their duties. All sorts of excuses will be provided why that is the case from the council leader Dilwyn Roberts and others (i.e. it is in line with national policy and all that nonsense) but councillors can choose to change allowances but simply will not choose to be less of a financial burden on the council. A right is a right but it does not have to be exercised..! Turkeys should vote for christmas and costs to the council should be slashed. Can you see Dilwyn Roberts the leader(Plaid), Dave Cowans (Labour), Ronnie Hughes (Labour), Mike Priestly (Lib Dems) trying to push that through council….?

There are 59 councillors in Conwy which in my opinion is far too many when we have MEP's, MP's, AM's also and I would like to see a dramatic reduction in the number of county councillors, the empowerment of and more training for the community councils (which are generally inefficient at the moment), a continued strengthening of the specialist skills of the officers (which will also help to compensate for councillors with low skills and experience) and furthermore I question some councillors motivation for the role the undertake entirely.

For some I feel that the remuneration they received for their public duty becomes too important an income stream for them which then I feel must make it difficult to want to lose that remuneration and therefore easier to fall in line with 'status quo decision making'. This has the potential to influence councillors to not rock the boat as much as they ought. The remuneration is a very nice top up to anyones retirement or other income streams and when you look at the age and composition of the councillors one wonders how much influence this has on decision making.

When is an independent not a independent…when they are a councillor..??

I feel that those standing as independents and those voting independent creates a real problem for councils. Independents councillors vote for and often canvass for the main parties at general elections as they believe in the policies and values of those parties, but choose not to stand by their beliefs during local elections or tell the electorate who they vote for. Why not and on that basis how can anyone be truly independent? I find this unusual and I believe damages local democracy and also councils across wales. It is their right to do so, yet I feel it is cowardly in terms of how one feels politically and so adversely affects the make up and power of councils.

Why are independents allowed to form a group when they get to council and appoint a leader (Phil Evans in Conwy) where in many councils across wales they hold the balance of power and pulls the strings when forming the political makeup and influence of the council. If you are independent don't form a group, stay independent as the way it looks feels and acts, the "Independent Group" is a quasi-political party and as such they should abide by the same rules as other parties to level the playing field. I call for this anomaly in British Politics to be scrutinised more thoroughly and the legality of the independent group process and their perverse influence on politics to be taken in hand.

Also if we want better local democracy then voters need to wake up to what they are voting for and how council works more so that means getting more involved and making more of a noise. In Conwy voting Independent means voting for Labour, Plaid and the Lib Dems to run the council. I do not think that is what people want from an independent vote yet most do not realise that is what happens with their 'supposed' independent vote.

So the status quo continues and nothing really changes. How else would people like Dilwyn Roberts(Plaid), Ronnie Hughes(Labour) and Dave Cowans(Labour) have such levels of responsibility in the real world…? Hundreds of millions of pounds worth of budget responsibility in the hands of local councillors. Scary…!!!

I will focus more on creating jobs and tax revenues for the treasury through business and aim to make a difference to public life in other ways so I will continue to be a net contributor to Conwy rather than be a net burden as so many councillors in Conwy are.

Residents will be please to know I did not put in one expense to council whilst a councillor…!

Goodbye for now and thanks.

Kind Regards,

Paul Roberts
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Offline DaveR

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Re: Local Politics
« Reply #501 on: July 04, 2013, 10:41:39 am »
Interesting little document, which shows all the things CCBC are spending money on:
http://tinyurl.com/nahfl8z

I see £280,000 has been spent to 'coast protection -  private frontages at Penrhyn Bay'. Why can the property owners not pay for their own sea defences, they presumably realised before they bought the property that they had a sea wall that would need to be maintained?

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« Reply #502 on: July 04, 2013, 01:31:36 pm »
I had a chance of buying a plot of land there and building my own property many years ago but turned it down for two reasons.  The problem with erosion and also the high cost of installing a suitable sea defence.
Like you say the property owners would have been made aware of the problems when purchasing their properties and should at least contribute something towards the cost.
Something similar was done on the other side of the Little Orme in Craigside and I can't remember whether the owners there had to contribute anything to the sea defences that were put in place.

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« Reply #503 on: July 06, 2013, 10:53:48 pm »
Something similar was done on the other side of the Little Orme in Craigside and I can't remember whether the owners there had to contribute anything to the sea defences that were put in place.

I understand some sea defences at Craigside were put in place as a condition of the planning permission for new build properties in the late 1980s by the developer (my father-in-law who has long since retired). It was only a small development that covered a section of the coastline so unsure if further works have been undertaken since by neighbouring properties.


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« Reply #504 on: July 16, 2013, 09:56:33 am »
Whilst having a read of Oscar's Blog, I noticed yet more comments alluding to a forthcoming local govt reorganisation that will see Conwy Council disappear completely. What is now Conwy County will be apportioned between Gwynedd & Denbighire. Will this be a positive move?

On another note, I see that the Llandudno Town Council website has still not reappeared, several months after the hosting company apparently ceased trading. Why is it taking so long? A basic website could be up and running in less than one day. Perhaps I should provide some consultancy to the Town Council - is the going rate still £5k?  :laugh:

Offline Ian48

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« Reply #505 on: July 16, 2013, 10:20:58 am »
I am not sure if they would split the county again.  If anything they might just put the whole lot with Denbighshire.

That aside, I think it would be disastrous for Llandudno and Conwy to go back to being the poor relation of Bangor and Caernarfon, we were always pretty much the casho cow to fund their hare-brained Welsh language policies (and I say that as a proud Welshman, with no malice to the promotion of the language).

It was always daft that there was no boundary change in 1974 as there was in 1995 as Llandudno, Colwyn Bay and Conwy have been essentially one conurbation for decades now and the three towns make a pretty homogeneous unit socially, economically and linguistically.  To split a natural unit up would be really silly in my view.

I would even say that Llandudno probably has more in common with Rhyl than Caernarfon in some respects, certainly I reckon folk from Llandudno probably go there more often and the ties that way towards the east are stronger than to the west.   

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« Reply #506 on: July 17, 2013, 12:10:25 pm »
Historically the dividing line between Gwynedd and Denbighshire was the Afon Ganol which runs over Rhos golf course.  I would much rather be a part of Gwynedd and many computer data lists still put us there and don't recognise Conwy.

Lump us in with Rhyl?  Ugh give me a break why should we subsidise a town with a drug problem and ober 60% on benefits. Which reminds me. Do people living almost permanently have to pay Council Tax?  I know it was mooted but don't remember if it became law.  We are north west Wales not north east.

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« Reply #507 on: July 17, 2013, 12:11:46 pm »
Oh dear I meant almost permanently in caravans!!! Ha :-X

Offline Ian48

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« Reply #508 on: July 17, 2013, 12:36:00 pm »
I didn't say that we 'should' go in with Rhyl, I was just stating that we probably have more links with Rhyl that we do with Caernarfon.

I am aware that the Afon Ganol was historically the boundary between Caernarvonshire and Denbighshire, but in my opinion, a dividing line of hundreds of years ago that is today little more than a ditch should have no bearing on whether we are reunited with Caernarfon and Bangor etc.  That boundary was an anachronism from the end of the 19th century onwards and it was high time that it was abandoned in 1995.

I would rather we stayed as we are, but I can envisage a scenario where Gwynedd and Ynys Mon become one county, Conwy and Denbighshire another and Wrexham and Flints another perhaps.  It's not ideal, but it would be better than being back in a county that would stretch down to the Aberdaron and Aberdyfi and with which we would have very little in common economically or socially. 

Rhyl is a dive and we all know it, but that's more West Rhyl to be honest, other parts of the town are fairly similar to parts of Llandudno and Colwyn Bay in some respects.  If it had to be so, then I'd rather go west than east.

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« Reply #509 on: July 17, 2013, 12:46:54 pm »
In fact you could say that Llandudno is already in some respects in the same county as Rhyl already.  Certainly Llandudno is part of the preserved county of Clwyd as they changed the boundaries and removed us from the preserved county of Gwynedd back around 2006.  This is for purposes such as the Lord Lieutenancy etc and is also the reason why for parliament we became part of the Aberconwy Constituency.  The boundary commissioners back then were firmly of the belief that we belonged as part of North East Wales.