I don;t know what a county councillor does for their 15,000 pound or 30 if in cabinet,but if i ask one of them why the Llandudno town beach is a filthy disgrace i would expect them to find out and explain to me,not phobe me off to some council employee.We all can see that there is no pride in the town beach or the gardens,obviously the dept does not have enought staff to look after Llandudno;s flower beds and lawns so they are left to become weedbeds,if you take a look at any of the beds they are full of weeds and the borders are never cut and who cares,nobody,not the town,not the county ,not the hospitality.As i have said before i will not be going back to Southport again as i thought it had really gone down,i should imagine thousands have done this with Rhyl and unless we start getting the basics right the same will happen here.