great orme cemetery

[Cambrian]

The area between the Golf Club and Glan Conwy Corner has always been the subject of land drainage problems.  Until the 1970s there were two little-known statutory bodies called the Afon Ganol East Internal Drainage Board and the Afon Ganol West Internal Drainage Board.  These Boards managed the Internal Drainage Districts of the same names and comprised representatives of the landowners in the area.  They had a power to levy a drainage rate which met the costs of maintaining the drainage ditches connecting to the designated "Main River" the Afon Ganol. These Boards were abolished in the 1970s and since then any maintenance has been dependent on the EA or its predecessors to have the funds or will to do the work. This is really off topic!

[jane B]

Just to let those who have helped and followed on the forum know that Emma P and I went to our first Roberts reunion last night in the Community Hall Glanwydden. It was a lovely evening putting names to faces from the family and listening to the family stories.

Also my husband and family stayed in a B & B called The Chilterns in Deganwy Ave run by Pat and Stuart Astley. They were a lovely couple and nothing was too much trouble. I can highly recommend it, the rooms were lovely and comfortable, the breakfast great.

Thanks again to all concerned for helping put the pieces together.

[emma p]

Ditto to all of that Jane.......it was a wonderful evening, thoroughly enjoyed by all. The bonus for me were the pictures of Evan Roberts and his wife.
Ive been up the Orme this morning on another 'grave hunt' but to no avail 
Think when its warmer and drier in August ill just stay up there until i find each and every single one !!
 

[Hugo]

Hi Emma, glad that you and Jane had a great time at the reunion and that the weather wasn't too bad for you as I believe that you've had it a lot worse over there in the Midlands.
If you need any help with a "grave hunt" send me a PM and I'll do my best to help.

[emma p]

Thanks Hugo.....ill do that.
We went prepared for the worst, weatherwise, and was very pleasantly suprised at how warm it was !!!
We had layer upon layer on as it had snowed yet again overnight thursday and into friday morning and there had been an extremely hard frost when we set off early on saturday, but as soon as we got onto the A41 it was blue skies, sunshine and no sign of snow anywhere.
We havent been that way and onto the A55 for years, but it is so much quicker.
It was raining and quite cold up on the orme this morning but when we got down to the west shore it was lovely again.
Geraint did a super job.....he'd had our 'family tree' professionally printed and blown up....its huge ! as well as all the photographs and a slide show on the computer too.
Its done us the world of good to blow a few cobwebs, as it always does, so looking forward to our fortnight in the summer now as i dont think we'll get up again till then. 

[Blodyn]

So glad to hear the reunion went well - I've enjoyed following your stories. 

[jane B]

Thanks Blodyn. I like your contributions to the forum too!

[Hugo]

Emma and Jane, that large family tree that Geraint kindly did for you, did it by any chance have a Thomas Roberts on it?
He was born about 1815 in Llangystennin

[jane B]

Hi Hugo,
I have looked at my tree but no recortd of Thomas Roberts. However, I have a 5 year gap between siblings  Ann and Elias Roberts the offspring of Enoch and Eleanor. I could easily have missed some when looking at the records in the Archives.
Do you think you have found another?

[Hugo]

Hi Jane,  no I don't think that I've found one of your ancestors but I just wanted to rule Thomas out.   You mentioned the children Ann and Elias before but when I pointed out that Enoch was born about 1777 ( confusion caused by 1841 Census dates) I seem to remember you finding two others, Richard being one of them.
I've looked through some of the postings on the Forum but can't find your posting that gives the names of all of Enoch's children. I thought that I'd ask you as it would have been quicker than sifting through all the postings.
The Thomas Roberts I was thinking about was a brick maker born Llangystennin about 1815 and one of his sons Robert L Roberts was born in Llandudno in 1853.  It would have been nice if Thomas had also been one of Enoch's sons too'

PS.   I've found the posting on page 14 and there are two sons Richard and Elias and two daughters so unless Enoch had another son, or Enoch had a brother who had a son called Thomas then we must assume that he is not related.  It's a shame as it would have been a nice link with your family

[emma p]

Hi Hugo
Enoch and Elinor had 6 children- William (the baptist minister), Robert, Ann, Richard, Elias and Margaret.
Richard was my ggg gradfather.
 

[Hugo]

Thanks Emma, I'll post something tomorrow when I've checked it but at the moment it looks Thomas is not related to you.

[Hugo]

I went to the Library today but could not find any evidence from the Census of 1841 to link Thomas Roberts with Glanwydden.   A week last Saturday I went on a walk and ended up at Bodafon Farm and apart from enjoying the amenities there I had a nice conversation with the tenant farmer  Mark Roberts.  His brother Richard Roberts has the Licence for the cafe and function room.
Anyway I mentioned the Roberts family history and the fact that Enoch Jnr once worked at the farm but Mark had no connection with the Jubilee Street side of the  family.
He did mention though that his ancestor Luther Roberts had helped to build Llandudno Town Hall and from Ancestry I found out that Robert Luther Roberts' father was called Thomas and he was born in Llangystennin in 1815  (Parish or village??  )
Anyway I thought that I'd ask the question about Enoch snr but it's a shame really as it would have been nice if you were related and you could of had another reunion at Bodafon Farm!      Z**
There could of course be the possibility that Enoch snr had a brother/ cousin but you'd have to search the Parish records for that to establish any link.

[jane B]

Hi Hugo,

Thanks for following that up. As you say it still may be possible as I don't know how many siblings Enoch had. I will check that out next time I'm in Llandudno. I'm having a few days there in March.
I'm glad the weather is perking up, soon be spring!

[Hugo]

Hi Emma and Jane, hope that you are both well and that that you enjoyed your holiday in Llandudno Emma.
I went to the Conwy Archives this afternoon about a matter concerning another family, but I struck up a conversation with a very knowledgeable guy called Bob who works there and we had a very interesting conversation about the Roberts family from Glanwydden.
Bob knows everything there is to know about that area and is related to the Roberts families that lived there in the past.   He is also related to Robert Roberts the Baptist Preacher who came up from South Wales to Fforddlas to preach there and in Llanduno.
He came out with other info which will certainly raise your street cred.  quite a bit.        
It would be worth popping in there to have a chat next time you are in Llandudno