great orme cemetery

[emma p]

Ah ! never thought of Llanrhos.
Ann is our other mystery......born 1878, eldest child of enoch and mary.
In 1920 she registared Johns death, down as sister and living at 7 jubilee st but with the name of Williams. She would have been 42.
I know jane's looking but any areas you think we may not have covered would be helpful.
Looking forward to our get together in February.     Hugo, you will have to join us.

[jane B]

Happy New year to you Hugo! If you got a chance to look at the Llanrhos books that would be brilliant. It was handy having the lists of Roberts in the other cemeteries to pair off and add other family members.

[Hugo]

Emma and Jane, if Ann Williams was living in Jubilee Street at the time of her death she could have been buried in either Llanrhos or the Great Orme's Cemetery.  What is good about the Burial books in the Archives are that they are alphabetical which makes it easier to trace and  although Ann's name is a common one it shouldn't be too hard because I've got dates to go on.
The Street indexes up to 1939 are similar and they too may help. I'll see what I can do about finding info on the pair.

[emma p]

Bless you Hugo. 

[Cambrian]

The newer Llanrhos cemetery (The Lawns) opened in 1972 and the records are held at the Crematorium in Colwyn Bay.  Staff there are quite helpful in locating graves for enquirers.  Interments are still carried out in Llanrhos Church Yard but have been very restricted for some years and I believe only ashes are now placed there provided that there is a family connection.

[emma p]

Thanks.....but Ann was born in 1878 so id say she would be in the older section. I have spoken to the people at colwyn bay and have always found them very helpful too.
Hugo.....not sure where Ann was living when she died. Though she was at jubilee st when John died, as this was the address given when she registared his death.

[Hugo]

I went to the Conwy Archives today but could not find any burial details for Lewis Roberts or Ann Williams.  I have been told that the Archives records are not up to date as they are awaiting information from the Church and your relatives records may still be with them.
In the Street Indexes for 1939 Ann Williams was still living at 7 Jubilee Street but the next index was for the 1950's or 60's (no date on it) and by that time neither person was at their last known address.
If you have the date of death of either person please post it here as there may be an obituary notice  in the Llandudno Advertiser that I can look at.
I've got a list of the Roberts' buried in St Tudno's on the Great Orme and also St Hilary's in Llanrhos and if you want a copy please send a PM.

[jane B]

Hi Hugo, have,nt got any death dates. Not at home at the moment so will send you a message when I get back on Thursday or Friday.

[Hugo]

I had a go in the Library looking for the deaths of Lewis Roberts after 1939 and the first entry for Aberconwy was in 1975 (Jul/Aug/ Sept quarter )   The date of birth for this Lewis was 20/10/1886 so it isn't your relative, unless someone has copied the year down incorrectly.
That puts his age at 88 whereas your Lewis if he had still been alive would have been about 94.
It may well be that Lewis may have moved out of the area and that's why nothing local can be found for him.

[jacko]

seen that this forum has covered royal welsh fusiliers,this film covers fusiliers leaving conway, http://buckleyatwar.webs.com/soldiersstoriesww1.htm

[Hugo]

Looking across from Llandrillo to Tyn Rhyn and Tyn Yr Ynn on the hillside.

[DaveR]

Off topic slightly, but I've noticed that area of grassland in the foreground now floods on a far more regular basis than it used to and is very popular with birds. I'd like to see that whole area made into a nature reserve and maybe a larger, more permanent lake created there.

[Hugo]

They did some work on that field when they put a deep trench through it in recent years and the drainage does seem to have gone worse.  The land has always been marshy and the River Conwy once flowed in that direction.
Apparently just over 200 years ago boats came up to where the College is now to provide provisions for the Church and some went further up river to Mochdre. Seems hard to believe now with the Golf Course and farmland being as it is.

[Jack]

Off topic slightly, but I've noticed that area of grassland in the foreground now floods on a far more regular basis than it used to and is very popular with birds. I'd like to see that whole area made into a nature reserve and maybe a larger, more permanent lake created there.

It is very popular for wintering populations of curlew and wigeon as well as the resident family of mute swans that nest on the Afon Ganol, interestingly the golf course also used to flood regularly but the new owners have spent a fortune on a new drainage system.  The 'flooded' fields belong to Dinarth Hall Farm but agriculturally can't be much use except for grazing.

[Hugo]

Again slightly off topic but I had a walk up Bryn Euryn the other day and  could see the Afon Ganol clearly and it was impressive and in full flood. Now the river meanders through the fields and goes to where the old Rydal Nursing home is ( my mother had a room there overlooking the river)  and then it goes through a small culvert beneath the driveway and under the main road before emerging in the Golf Course.
I've often wondered what would happen in certain extreme conditions with the water backing up and it may be one of the reasons why the fields are so flooded now.