great orme cemetery

[emma p]

Emma, I had a look on the 1851 Census today and this is the info I found:-
Your G G G Grandfather Enoch Roberts was born in 1777 in Llandrillo Denbighshire. In the census he was head of the family and was aged 74 and a widower.  He was listed as a  (pauper) formerly miller
Anne Roberts daughter aged 36 was also there and they both still lived at Pendyffryn in Glanwydden.
Enoch was not listed in the 1861 census so I presume that he died sometime after 1851.
Yesterday, I looked in the Archives for his burial records but couldn't find any but it may be that paupers are listed elsewhere in the books so I'll try again sometime.

Thanks Hugo,
Poor Enoch, a pauper, sounds dreadful.
Anne Roberts-daughter-is she Richards sister then ? must be. Richard would have been off and married to Ann by now and living at 'the old mill' and Elizabeth their eldest was born in 1852.
Rofft Bach has certainly given everyone food for thought.......just wish i was there to have a look myself.
I have found an old photo of the area and have tried to attach it but cant.
Ill have another go.
 

[emma p]

Found this picture today.....no date though

[emma p]

Obviously its a later picture.......but wondered if it helps ?

[CurlyCap]

That's a great picture Emma as it's taken from a different angle.

It would be interesting to know if anyone does have a date for it !

[Fester]

Thanks Hugo,
Poor Enoch, a pauper, sounds dreadful.
 
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I know how he feels...

[emma p]

  Yes Fester,
       things havent changed much down the family line !!!!!   

[Hugo]

Back in the Conwy Archives today but couldn't find anything about the burial of Enoch Roberts your G G G Grandfather but did come across the obituary in the 1930 copy of the Llandudno Advertiser of the other Enoch Roberts your G Grandfather.

[Trojan]

Salem Chapel, must have been the one in Craig-y-Don - today's Christadelphian Hall

[emma p]

 
wow what a super find Hugo. Its wonderful how these bits of information help you to build up a bigger picture of the person. The baptist church eh ?
Thanks Trojan for your picture too. Ill have a read up on it.
 

[Hugo]

I'm not sure if Trojan has the right Chapel , what about the Salem Baptist Chapel in Adelphi Street / Mostyn Broadway.   It's nearer to Jubilee Street although I can't say that I've noticed it before.     
SALEM BAPTIST CHAPEL, ADELPHI ST. AND MOSTYN BROADWAY, LLANDUDNO; CHRISTADELPHIAN HALL

Site Details
 Site Details
 NPRN 6896 Map Reference SH78SE Grid Reference SH7868482143 Unitary (Local) Authority Conwy Old County Caernarfonshire Community Llandudno Type of Site CHAPEL Broad Class Religious, Ritual and Funerary Period Post Medieval
Site Description
 
Salem Baptist Chapel was built in 1889 and enlargd in 1912. The present chapel, dated 1912, was built in the Vernacular style of the gable entry type. The chapel is now used as a Christadelphian Hall.
 

[emma p]

just found a quote in a book ive got-

The Evangelical Church in Queens Road was opened as a Welsh Baptist Chapel in 1894. Lady Augusta Mostyn bought it in 1910 and gave the Baptists land to enable them to expand their 1889 Salem mission (now belonging to the Christadelphians) in 1912 at the opposite end of Mostyn Broadway.

Is this the same one ? Cant visualise where Mostyn Broadway is.......is it Asda way ?

[DaveR]

gave the Baptists land to enable them to expand their 1889 Salem mission (now belonging to the Christadelphians) in 1912 at the opposite end of Mostyn Broadway.

Is this the same one ? Cant visualise where Mostyn Broadway is.......is it Asda way ?

That is the one in Trojan's photo above.

[dwsi]

A little more about the Rev L E Valentine http://bit.ly/qt9Oy0

 

[emma p]

yes dave, i googled it and it came up on a list of churches in Llandudno. ?
Ill attache the photo it bought up......

[emma p]

A little more about the Rev L E Valentine http://bit.ly/qt9Oy0

 

Go Rev L E Valentine !!!! What a man(just read your link).......ive always felt a little bit welsh but after all this i feel it soooo much more.