The Changing Face of Llandudno

[SteveH]

Images reveal how rising sea levels could see Llandudno flooded
Sea levels are expected to rise due to climate change.

"In a report commissioned by Conwy County Council, coastal engineers AECOM have produced stark maps showing the potential scale and frequency of flooding in the early 22nd century - compared to now.

The report warns: “The present day risk is such that small areas of Llandudno have a one in 1,000 chance of flooding in any one year, however in 2117 there will be a one in 30 chance of widespread flooding in any one year.“It is clear something will need to change to provide continued flood protection to the town of Llandudno.”   
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shocking-images-reveal-how-rising-17024054

[Ian]

What worries me is that the talk is still of CCBC or its successor having to find 25% of the cost. Stopping coastal towns flooding should be a national priority. It is in London...

[Hugo]

This extract from the report caught my eye:-

"It suggests various options to improve sea defences on Llandudno’s north shore including constructing shore connected control structures such as breakwaters and timber groynes or ‘beach nourishment’.

The latter option would please campaigners who have fought for the rocks to be replaced by sand on the North Shore.

The option would attract more people to the resort’s front but there are concerns wind blown sand could cause problems.That could affect nearby properties and roads and raising the height of the wall may impact visibility of the sea and beach."

Isn't that exactly what has happened on the West Shore?    Perhaps the powers that be should be more careful in future and realise by their mistake in 1993 on the West Shore that the cheapest option is not always the best option

[Ian]

Replenishing the North Shore beach with sand to raise it by 2 - 3m wouldn't be a cheap option, but the upside would be in any wind the sand would simply be blown out to sea, as the prevailing Westerlies are what cause the West shore problem.

But I continue to be puzzled. North Wales is rising and has been  - steadily - for around 17000 years. The University of Durham studied the situation and concluded that the steady rise of North Wales would probably match or exceed rising sea levels. It wouldn't, of course, mitigate against the increasing frequency of major storms, which Climate change models all predict will occur. But there could be alternative strategies to deal with those.

[SteveH]

LLANDUDNO’s mayor admitted she got it wrong when she opposed the transfer of the estate where she lives to a housing association.

Cartrefi Conwy, the housing association, has transformed the estate with a £1.4 million makeover.

Cllr Angie O’Grady, the Mayor of Llandudno, was speaking at a special celebration to mark the presentation of a coveted Green Flag Award to the town’s Tre Cwm estate. The flag raising ceremony marked a double coup for Cartrefi Conwy housing association which manages the only two Welsh social housing estates ever to be crowned with Green Flag status.

Five years ago, the Peulwys estate in Llysfaen, above Old Colwyn, became the first to receive the internationally recognised accolade after a massive improvement programme.   cont.... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17995346.housing-associations-1-4-million-makeover-llandudno-estate/

[norman08]

what a laugh the estate is overrun with drug dealing  from catrefi properties and they are not bothered so long as they get the rent   £1.4 mill they were robbed nothing what the residents asked for no proper parks for the kids   

[Hugo]

Teenagers could be left vulnerable to drugs and crime if more youth clubs close in Wales, sector workers fear.
BBC figures show 163 youth clubs have been closed by councils in the last five years

I'm one of the lucky generation that went to the Llandudno Youth Club where there was every type of activity laid on for the teenagers but how or why it was allowed to close is beyond my comprehension.    With such a large population living in the town you would think that the CCBC had at least a moral obligation to provide a place where young people could meet up in safety

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50644585

[Ian]

The decline in youth groups run by volunteers started under Thatcher. Osbourne's 'austerity' plan finished any hope for council-funded clubs by progressively denying councils the cash they need.

It's also much harder to get people to man the clubs, now.

[snowcap]

The younger generation seem to only want to stay in and play games on their PC and have little intrest in youth clubs were as we never had these things to play on, i know which generation id sooner be in, they don't know what they are missing not getting out and mixing with other young people like we used to do,we new more or less every one in the village of our age and had a great relation ship even with the surrounding villages. With the amount of Knife crime about now it seems safer to be in playing games and i don't think that will change any time soon unfortunately

[norman08]

Hugo that youth club had everything we wanted, open 5 nights a week 6-10 then greasy Lils, the youth club now is one night a week if enough volounteers. Never any trouble there unlike today some kids go there to cause trouble.

[Ian]

The younger generation seem to only want to stay in and play games on their PC and have little intrest in youth clubs...I know which generation id sooner be in, they don't know what they are missing not getting out and mixing with other young people like we used to do...With the amount of Knife crime about now it seems safer to be in playing games and i don't think that will change any time soon unfortunately

You'd think that, but the statistics reveal that Scout and Guide groups, for example, have never had more members, Air cadets is flourishing and it seems that where there are adults sufficiently committed to volunteer as leaders the youth groups they start become oversubscribed within days.

So the demand for youth groups is there, but the leaders and cash for hiring premises often - sadly - not.

[SteveH]

Perhaps somebody    can organise something, without incurring costs for security guards and fences and directors fees, allowing for free entry, in the Xmas spirit,


AFTER more than 15 years of operation - (But not always fenced in ) organisers of Llandudno Christmas have pulled the plug.

After many years of trading successfully, directors of the community interest company have said that due to ‘circumstances outside their control’ the Christmas Fayre incurred a loss 2019.

The fayre, which over the years has attracted thousands of visitors, has come underfire in recent years for its entry charge.

This year Barry Mortlock, chief executive Officer of Llandudno Christmas Fayre Community Interest Co, stressed that the directors felt they had ‘no choice’ but to maintain the £4.50 entry fee as ‘very little profits were made in 2018.’   

In a statement, directors of the Llandudno Christmas Fayre Community Interest Co said: “The directors explored a number of avenues and considered a number of options to try to make the Fayre a sustainable event.

"No additional sources of funding or support      were identified and, after careful consideration, the directors concluded that in the current climate no business model was available that would create sufficient certainty that future events could cover their costs.

“In the light of this, the directors sought professional advice on how to wind the company up, keeping costs to a minimum     and ensuring a maximum return for creditors.

"Based on this advice, the company’s funds are being distributed pro rata to all of its creditors (which will give creditors 78 pence in the pound) and, in due course, the company will be dissolved.”

The popular fayre has been running in Llandudno for 16 years and has become a key event in Llandudno’s winter calendar, attracting many visitors to the town and providing a unique festive experience for both locals and visitors alike.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18175950.llandudno-christmas-fayre-will-not-part-towns-future-events/

[Ian]

Almost every xmas fayre in the UK doesn't charge for entry. Wonder if they've considered running it entry free for a year.  Charge the stallholders to set up and leave them to rent the stall itself.

[SteveH]

Llandudno youth club site........................ Winner quart into a pint pot...................  Ref MH on FB

[SteveH]

A few details on the above development.    They ended up with 19 apartments, one more than expected, around £165.000/£185.000. with maintenance charge starting at £1.100 pa.    limited allocated parking spaces

plans and specs... https://anthonyflint.co.uk/properties/2-bed-new-apartment-development-trinity-avenue-in-llandudno/