Unemployment and Benefits

[DaveR]

Correct!     

[Ian]

Having 4 kids is a choice, surely? Their choice to have 4 kids, so their responsibility to pay for them.

The main reason for this being defeated in the Lords was that it was perceived as a direct attack on the welfare of children.  No easy answers to this one.

[pentan]

Getting very worried daver is sounding more like Jeremy Kyle every day he will be telling us to put something on the end of it next

[DaveR]

Getting very worried daver is sounding more like Jeremy Kyle every day he will be telling us to put something on the end of it next

[pentan]

good lady has been in hospitial for a big op so had to take over the mantle and as they say a womans work is never done

[DaveR]

I hope she's recovered to full health now?

[pentan]

Losing your disability living allowance (DLA) may make you healthier, the DWP has argued, as they show how they plan to slash claimant numbers by half a million when personal independence payment ( PIP) is introduced. The cuts will also mean that only half as many people will get  a combined award of both the care component (daily living component under PIP) and mobility component.

Meanwhile,  Iain Duncan Smith has complained that two thirds of DLA claimants ‘fester’ on unchecked lifetime awards, so something had to be done about it.

 IBS should build Gas chambers get the lot off it in one fell swoop and while he is at it euthanasia for anybody over 67 one year on a pension is quite enough how dare they take money off the rich paying benefits stops the government giving these peeps tax perks

[Hugo]

I only read the headlines in a paper yesterday but  it said that a couple with 10 children receive £50,000.00 a year in benefits.  They said the state pays them these benefits so why should they work for less!     
They are right of course but it is the system that is at fault.   There doesn't seem to be any stigma attached to those people who are content to rely  on benefits and not do a single days work in their life.  I thought Cameron was going to cap the total family benefits at £26K and the likes of this parasitic family would then have to manage like the rest of us do.
Decent hard working people limit the size of their family to what they can afford financially so why should it be different for those that don't want to work.

[Fester]

Hugo, I agree.
Mr Cameron did indeed commence his pruning of the benefit system and ludicrous payouts such as those.
But as always, the mealy-mouthed opposition (and numerous members of his own coalition) hindered the process with cries of 'Racist' or 'Oppressor of the poor'

Unfortunately, unless a real strong government emerges, one which is free to make harsh decisions and implement them, then this issue and many like it will not get addressed.
Such a government will never emerge though, because the bulk of the electorate fear such strong government.

So, we drift ever further into debt and moral and social decline.

[Dwyforite]

seems like a right wing dictatorship would suit you down to the ground

[Fester]

Might be what the country needs Dwyforite.   Not advocating it mind.

I fear the alternative even more.

Strong decisions and sensible budgetting have not always just been the domain of right wing governments only.

There used to be a thing called statesmanship,  and another called leadership.

[DaveR]

seems like a right wing dictatorship would suit you down to the ground

If we put aside left and right wing for a moment, it's a fact that the National Debt is increasing by £446m EVERY DAY to fund Public Spending. How would you deal with it?

http://www.debt-clock.org/

[Hugo]

Dwyforite, how can you defend the indefensible?     It's inconceivable to think that anyone, whether they have no children or 17 children should be receiving more in benefits than the average take home pay for a working man or woman.
There can be no argument in favour of giving people more money for doing absolutely nothing at all than for someone who has to graft for their pay.
If the benefits are capped at a figure of £26K then they will have to manage on those amounts.  After all the majority of decent working people in this area have to pay all their bills on an amount far less than £26K

[Ian]

If we put aside left and right wing for a moment, it's a fact that the National Debt is increasing by £446m EVERY DAY to fund Public Spending. How would you deal with it?

Ahhh... if only it were that simple...

[Fester]

A statistic on the BBC news today took me aback.

Apparently, 9.2% of the population of Wales is receiving some form of disability benefit.
The average the UK is 6%, (which itself will be inflated by the 9.2% here in Wales)

Can anyone think of why there should be such a huge disparity between Wales and the rest of the UK in terms of people being unable to work due to disability?