Unemployment and Benefits

[Yorkie]

I would love a little job doing 10 to 12 hours a couple of days a week, but they just ain't out there.  Unless, of course, someone knows different and can point me in the right direction.   Or point someone needing help in my direction.   I've done my bit for volunteering so am now seeking a pityful sum for my efforts to supplement my meagre pension(s).     ,  a 1000 x  

I heard that there's a part time job going in Simon Bakers.  Quite well paid and no previous experience necessary just taking Hush Puppies for a walk!    

Just the sort of well heeled job I could put my sole into which could lead me to other (p)laces.  I'll nip by and have a bow-wow with Jeff next time I'm passing.    

[Hugo]

Nice one Yorkie        I'll put a good word in for you when I next see Geoff and you might get that job after all.

[Hugo]

I'm going to have to get a life as I was watching Jeremy Kyle again!           There was a 20 year old lad who had, had a drinking problem but thanks to his fiancee he had overcome this and seemed to be a decent bloke who had changed his life around.
He was on the show because his mother had chosen her criminal husband over him and she had given him away at birth and she had not seen him since and he wanted answers to some questions so he could move on with his life.
His birth mother came on and explained that she was  only 19 when she had him and couldn't cope with the baby so yes she did choose to stay with her husband and gave the baby to her sister in law.
Prompted by Jeremy, he then asked her the question of whether he had any brothers and sisters and she refused to say, saying that she would tell him in private.
Jeremy then revealed that she had 13 further children and ALL of them had been given away at birth.  Now this scumbag of a mother  (can I say that for fear of offending do gooders and Human rightists? ) had had 14 children and had given them all away. It can't be fair in a decent society and I bet that the husband and wife didn't work and I'm 100% positive that they didn't contribute anything to the 14 kids upbringing.         :rage:

[Merddin Emrys]

I've only ever seen the odd couple of minutes of any Jeremy Kyle programme, it always seems like the same family on every programme!

[Hugo]

You're very wise not watching the programme because it doesn't do the blood pressure much good watching and listening to the type that go on it.
I'm glad the Summer's coming and I'll be out more often,     

[Fester]

I have watched numerous episodes of Jeremy Kyle... always depressing.
Very much like a Wednesday afternoon in Rhyl.

In fact Rhyl IS Jeremy Kyle's waiting room....

[DaveR]

Some statistics concerning Rhyl - is there no more damming indictment of the failure of the Welfare State and Government over several decades?

46.2% of people living in Rhyl West were found to have literacy skills below the most basic level required to be able to function satisfactorily in everyday life.

1,100 households in Rhyl West are claiming benefits – that’s a higher proportion of people on benefits than anywhere else in England and Wales – save for Rochdale.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/05/10/shocking-deprivation-levels-revealed-in-rhyl-55578-28663942/

[Ian]

is there no more damming indictment of the failure of the Welfare State and Government over several decades?

That's debatable.  First, I might agree it's a failure of Government, because the state school system is a direct product of government and it's reasonable, therefore,  to assume a correlation between the quality of state education and the literacy level of adults. But you're conflating education and social service, and I think it's very difficult to do that with any certainty, since they are very different commodities. For instance, there's a wealth of evidence which suggests those who most need social care interventions are those who spend a disproportionate amount of time dodging them. 

On the education front, something clearly needs to be done, but what? Folks often post that this or that has failed, but they often find it difficult to identify strategies that might work. No easy answers, I'm afraid.

[born2run]

If you're from Rhyl I don't see how there's any goal in learning to read and getting a job. As you'll actually be better off staying at home on benefits. All the pubs in Rhyl are choc a block in the afternoons - so there's plenty of £££ floating about. Much of it I'd guess gained illegaly as well as the milking of benefits.

There's only one answer!!! Put up the minimum wage
£8 an hour at least is fair.

[DaveR]

There's only one answer!!! Put up the minimum wage
£8 an hour at least is fair.

But would you be happy to see all the prices rise so that the extra wage expense could be paid for?

As for the people in Rhyl, maybe they should not be given the choice of staying home on benefits? The rest of us manage to find a job, after all.   

[Trojan]

The area was supposed to have been regenerated three years ago but the WAG withdrew citing "lack of local support".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/7545941.stm

[Merddin Emrys]

There's only one answer!!! Put up the minimum wage
£8 an hour at least is fair.

even more jobs would go abroad sadly

[DaveR]

The area was supposed to have been regenerated three years ago but the WAG withdrew citing "lack of local support".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/7545941.stm

That was just one of the many WAG schemes running in Rhyl; Communities First has not been one of their most successful schemes, although the one on Maesgeirchen, Bangor, has done a good job.

WAG has spent a lot of money in Rhyl over the past few years, and large parts of it have improved to some degree. The problem is that a large part of the population in areas such as Rhyl West consist of people from outside the area. In effect, Rhyl, has been used as a dumping ground for the unwanted of north west England. In turn, their poor behaviour has pushed the 'decent' people out of the area, creating a ghetto with all the problems mentioned in the original press report. Radial action would need to be taken to really solve the problems, anything else is just window dressing.

[Trojan]

In effect, Rhyl, has been used as a dumping ground for the unwanted of north west England. In turn, their poor behaviour has pushed the 'decent' people out of the area, creating a ghetto with all the problems mentioned in the original press report.

You're saying that Merseyside & Greater Manchester councils have dumped their tenants in North Wales?

Or did a large proportion of Rhyl West residents arrive on their own accord?

Another article from three years ago:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2008/03/18/rhyl-west-is-second-worst-in-for-benefits-55578-20638539/

In Rhyl West’s area one, there are 610 jobless on benefits out of 895 of working age – 68% of the population.

Nothing seems to have changed.

[Pendragon]

That's one thing about Maes G there is a real sense of community spirit there.  Everybody knows and looks out for each other.  As I said on an earlier post Maes G is virtually crime free for this reason.  I have been going to Maes G since the 80s and so have seen the difference and what the Communities First grants etc have achieved.