The Great Orme

[Trojan]

As was pointed out in the Weekly News, the ownership trail goes cold in 1925 - the same year that Mostyn Estates was formed. 

I can't seem to find the Weekly News at my local newsagent Dave. 

I wonder how old that section of sea wall is?

[DaveR]

I was chatting to Fester over a beer in Fountains tonight and the subject of St. Beunos Road came up. Two questions need to be answered:

1) What is the definitive pronunciation of Beuno?
2) Who was St Beuno anyway and what is the connection with the Great Orme?

I said I thought the pronunciation was Bew-no but Fester begged to differ.

[cygnusx-1]

I would say BAY... NO.

[SDQ]

I thought it was  buy...no

[Nemesis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beuno

[Fester]

This is because I was talking last night with HE who knows all things in Llandudno, and has lived on the Gt Orme all his life.

The Great Man himself said it was St Bueno's (pronounced Buy-No) as stated by SDQ.
I thought it was pronounced BWEN-O,  (but I am a stupid English person so my effort doesn't count)
Dave was quite adamant it should be BEW-No

If no definitive answer can be found, then the GREAT man shall be awarded the prize!

I wonder what Quiggs would say?

[Bellringer]

There was a St Bueno's church in the road too. It was basically I seem to remember "a tin shed" and closed as a Church in Wales church in the Parish of Llandudno in the late 1980s.

I think it was redeveloped as a private residence.

[DaveR]

After considerable research (1 min on Google), I can reveal that Cygnus-X was correct and it is pronounced 'bay-no'.


"Today is the feast day of St Beuno, the day on which this saint died in  AD640. He is, perhaps one of Britain’s holiest men, and yet, Beuno (pronounced 'bay-no'),  sadly, remains largely unknown outside Wales.

Beuno was born in Powys about AD545. Can you imagine that? A millenia and a half ago! He was the son of royal parents,  well educated, and rather than pursue a carerrt in the military or politics, he chose the religious life and reputedly founded nine (or more) religious communities.

He spent many years on, or near,  (the Holy Island of Bardsey), the resting place of over twenty thousand saints, so legend says. I have to admit Bardsey Sound, Ynys Enlli, and the part of the mainland overlooking the island, is one of my favourite places - a veritable 'thin place', a place of great spirituality."

http://archive.typepad.com/brothertadhg/2011/04/21april-2011-today-is-the-feast-day-of-st-beuno-the-day-on-which-this-saint-died-in-ad640-he-is-perhapsone-of-britain.html

[Fester]

He who knows ALL things cannot be wrong! ........... they who wrote the article in Google are spreading false propaganda, and I will not have it! 

[cygnusx-1]

 I have always pronounced it Bay-no but it is a word like Beaumaris.............I have heard so many variations on that one but Bewmaris is my take on it.

It means 'beautiful potatoes'!!   

[DaveR]

Bow-maris!

[Fester]

Bow-maris!

People who I have spoken to in Beaumaris itself, (and live there) say BOO-Maris.

[DaveR]

That's the pronounication of the Welsh version of the town's name - Biwmares.  Not many people use it as it's just a made up name. The town's name is derived from 'beau mareys' - Norman French for 'beautiful marsh'. Beau is obviously pronounced as Bow.

[Merddin Emrys]

is that 'bow' as in 'bow and arrow' or 'bow' as in 'bow down'?    ( the english language sometimes makes no sense at all  )

I've always known it as Bo  maris  I remember hearing it years ago on the Treasure Hunt programme as
Bo marry!  L0L

[DaveR]

bow and arrow