National politics

[Ian]

Paxman delivered a lecture at the Hay festival last week in which he applauded Corbyn. He seems quite pro-JC and interestingly somewhat anti-media.

[Bosun]

Paxman delivered a lecture at the Hay festival last week in which he applauded Corbyn. He seems quite pro-JC and interestingly somewhat anti-media.

That's interesting. Last night Paxman seemed to be 'grandstanding', desperately wanting to draw blood or provoke them both which I thought added nothing to the debate, but JC did seem rattled by the onslaught.

I have no idea who advised May on her outfit, an ugly lurid orange two-piece, I can only presume it was Stevie Wonder.

[Hugo]

I'm afraid that old Jeremy didn't do himself any favours in his interview this afternoon, probably more embarrassing than any of Diane Abbott's interviews.        PM material?       



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520

[Fester]

But on the other hand, that pip squeak Alun Cairns and the overbearing Andrew RT Davies are both avoiding the TV debate tonight..... blaming each other for that...
The most senior and 'sensible' political figure the Tories can put forward is Darren Millar.
Look back at the Oscar revelations to learn more about his credentials.

It's embarrassing and pathetic.
None of these people deserve to be in ANY positions of power.

[Fester]

The value of the pound dropped after a projection suggested the Conservatives could fail to win an outright majority in the election on 8 June.
Previous opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's party would increase its majority, which is currently 17 seats.
But the projection, published in the Times and based on YouGov research, suggests a possible hung parliament.

We ignore these movements at our peril.

[Fester]

Why isn't there one, just one of the political parties willing to tell the truth?

The truth about ... BREXIT.

They all say we are heading for Brexit, and how it will be negotiated to minimise the DAMAGE it will bring.
Yet, we all know that Brexit is not really what Britain wants. If the referendum was re-run today, there would be a majority to REMAIN. 
This is not because LEAVE voters are stupid, but because the whole campaign was based on LIES.
Also because there is a sizeable number of people who voted leave, but instantly regretted it.

Come on one of you leaders, be honest about this!

[DaveR]

I predict terrorist attacks from supporters of IS who have been allowed to move to the UK will eventually become a weekly occurrence.

Very sadly, it seems my prediction is already starting to come true. The enemy within is gathering strength and becoming bolder.

In place such as London and Manchester, armed response can be on the scene within minutes, but even that is too long a period of time when faced with attackers that can injure and kill many people in that time. We need to look at arming all police, as a matter of urgency.

I hate to raise such an issue, but what would happen if a similar incident to the London Bridge attack took place in a town in North Wales? Armed officers are on patrol in North Wales but it can take them 20-30 minutes to travel to an incident. Who locally would have the ability to stop such terrorists?

[norman08]

Walking past Janet f Saunders office in madoc street you would think Bebb is not standing ,no mention of him posters pictures it's a sad state of affairs that they don't get on .

[Hugo]

I can tell where your vote is going on Thursday Norman       

[Bosun]

So, at the eleventh hour, Dianne Abbott is taking an 'indefinite break' from her role as Shadow Home Secretary... according to Corbyn, who has replaced her with Lyn Brown, who resigned last year following a vote of no confidence in his leadership. She said then that Labour should seek a new leader "for the good of the party and the country". She then rejoined the front bench three months later as minister for policing....

Just to add, (from Wikipedia) in June 2011, Brown was criticised by campaigners for recruiting an unpaid intern whilst also supporting "a living wage for all". Gus Baker of Intern Aware stated Brown had replaced a paid member of staff with an unpaid intern, accusing her of double hypocrisy and noting how such conduct denied opportunities to poorer people such as those from Brown's constituency.

Until May 2009, Brown rented a central London flat using the second home allowance, despite her constituency being only a few miles from Westminster.

In July 2011, Brown was heavily criticized for shoving a blind man out of her way and repeatedly swearing at him. Nice.

Of course she's not unpleasant, hypocritical, therefore untrustworthy, self-serving type that's milking the gravy-train at all..... but she might be the next Home Secretary.

 

[Fester]

Obviously Diane Abbott has simply embarrassed herself.

[Merddin Emrys]

I saw this comment on The Independent website, it exactly sums up why I and many others will not vote for Labour.

'True old Labour stood for social justice. Preventing appalling conditions & pay for workers.
But most of these new Leftards have never done a working class job in their lives.
They now stand for a bizarre socialist ideology that's a mass of ludicrous contradictions that comprises of..

1] Regarding any kind of patriotism & wish for proper borders as racism & xenophobia
2] Playing down crime such as child grooming when committed by minorities
3] Instilling feelings of guilt in anyone wanting to put Brits 1st
4] Pandering to minorities at the expense of the majority
5] Robbing poor countries of their youth & workforce
6] Failing to get work shy people back in work
7] The corporatist capitalist's EU dream
8] Mass immigration of cheap labour
9] Middle class Marxism
10] Political correctness

They've lost the plot
Why would any normal working class person want this load of bollox ?

I spoke to a cabbie the other day He used to earn £16 an hour as an HGV lorry driver until the Poles came over living 8 to a house & drove the wages down to £ 9.50 an hour So him and his mates are now all UKIP.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html

[Bosun]

'True old Labour stood for social justice. Preventing appalling conditions & pay for workers.
But most of these new Leftards have never done a working class job in their lives.
They now stand for a bizarre socialist ideology that's a mass of ludicrous contradictions that comprises of..

I doubt if anyone can disagree with that statement, and whilst I actually much prefer the Labour manifesto to the Tories, I don't believe that the current Labour front bench have any hope in hell of either implementing their policies or of properly running the country. Abbott (as was) Watson and Thornbury are a clueless bunch of cretins, self serving 'Leftards' as ME calls them, and although I'm no Tory, and I don't like the party, I think they will make a better Government. Corbyn is just deluded. And, it has to be said that the Tory campaign has been utterly dire, Corbyn has done a far better job of electioneering than May. But, the Labour campaign has been like Brexit - promises them anything as long as we win.

For me, it's fractionally the lesser of two evils. But not much. I've said it before - if it had been David instead of clueless Ed, the Labour Party would still be in power.

[Merddin Emrys]

Looks like we just about agree on something Bosun, had to happen one day !  D)

[Big Alan]

Don't know how B2R lives in that little Ingerlund you call Llandudno! Full of Tories and ukip racists, bet you voted out as well! You won't be seeing as much of me and Paula in the future I'm afraid Fester. VOTE LABOUR!