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Offline DaveR

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« Reply #555 on: May 07, 2016, 06:26:13 pm »
And while we're on the subject of egregious, Neil Hamilton has snaked his way onto the WA through UKIP. This is someone who has taken money for asking questions in Parliament, performed a Nazi salute in Germany by his own admission, sued numerous papers and then withdrawn the actions, has an 'interesting' history with Movimento Sociale Italiano, an Italian neo-fascist party led by one of Benito Mussolini's ex-ministers, Giorgio Almirante, membership of the Eldon League, the Powellite faction of the Monday Club and whose track record of being excoriated in the press and being described on the front pages as a 'Liar and a cheat is widespread. Lots of fascinating information here
Sounds like a typical politician....

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« Reply #556 on: May 07, 2016, 10:47:24 pm »
Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.


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« Reply #557 on: July 01, 2016, 12:23:46 pm »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.

I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

Meanwhile Labour party membership has increased by 183,658 more than the Tories have in total.
Tell me again why a man who has already doubled membership is doom and gloom for the party?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/more-people-have-joined-labour-since-the-election-than-are-in-the-entire-conservative-party-a6686001.html

As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm.

Just wondering what your current opinion of Corbyn is, B2R? Still behind him?

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« Reply #558 on: July 01, 2016, 12:25:32 pm »
Just how bad must he have felt when he was announced in Parliament the other day, and as he rose to his feet everyone just laughed at him.   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That's got to hurt.   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #559 on: July 01, 2016, 12:27:38 pm »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.

I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

Meanwhile Labour party membership has increased by 183,658 more than the Tories have in total.
Tell me again why a man who has already doubled membership is doom and gloom for the party?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/more-people-have-joined-labour-since-the-election-than-are-in-the-entire-conservative-party-a6686001.html

As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm.

Just wondering what your current opinion of Corbyn is, B2R? Still behind him?

Me and the majority of the Labour grass roots membership. ££$

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« Reply #560 on: July 01, 2016, 12:31:20 pm »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.

I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

Meanwhile Labour party membership has increased by 183,658 more than the Tories have in total.
Tell me again why a man who has already doubled membership is doom and gloom for the party?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/more-people-have-joined-labour-since-the-election-than-are-in-the-entire-conservative-party-a6686001.html

As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm.

Just wondering what your current opinion of Corbyn is, B2R? Still behind him?

Me and the majority of the Labour grass roots membership. ££$
I do think he's been treated abysmally by his MPs.  &shake&

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« Reply #561 on: July 02, 2016, 08:28:51 am »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.

As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm.

Just wondering what your current opinion of Corbyn is, B2R? Still behind him?

Me and the majority of the Labour grass roots membership. ££$
I do think he's been treated abysmally by his MPs&shake&

Been thinking about that, Dave. On the face of it, it seems only right that MPs support their leader through thick and thin, as it were. Buty I suspect there are two main reasons why things have turned out as they have done.

The first is simply that MPs want to keep their jobs. There's a general feeling that Corbyn doesn't have national appeal, yet remains content to keep voicing the policies which nearly saw Labour extinguished in the '80s.  But the second one is less self-serving. In order to achieve any sort of change - political, financial or social - a party must win power. Corbyn evokes fierce loyalty amongst his constituency members, and among those who deem themselves activists, which is great - as far as it goes. No one doubts that he's a great grass-roots man. But if he's not capable of leading the party to a national victory, then it doesn't matter what he believes: nothing will happen until Labour wins power.

The country as a whole doesn't like extreme politicians: the Tories discovered that with Margaret Thatcher, whose legacy left them largely unelectable for years, and Labour discovered it with Foot's tragic 1983 manifesto, described as 'the longest suicide note in history'.

Grandiose ideas are great, committed socialists are great but until the party wins power nothing will ever happen.
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« Reply #562 on: July 04, 2016, 10:48:02 pm »
Tom Watson to meet unions over Jeremy Corbyn leadership

I'm afraid that Jeremy Corbyn has done more damage to the Labour Party than anything the Tories have ever done.   He's the worst Labour leader that I can ever remember and even worse than Michael Foot which is saying something.
If Corbyn really had Labour's interests at heart he would do the decent thing and resign



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36701288

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« Reply #563 on: July 05, 2016, 01:10:02 pm »
Some very disturbing information about Corbyn and his extremist links - perhaps the naysayers were right  $angry$

https://markfiddaman.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/6-links-jeremy-corbyn-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about/

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« Reply #564 on: July 05, 2016, 01:50:00 pm »
Priceless  _))* _))* _))* _))* _))* _))*
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« Reply #565 on: July 05, 2016, 02:12:45 pm »
"Why does Corbyn condone childhood obesity? Is it because, as PM, he would require a generation of hefty youngsters to pull carts as they toil in his socialist salt mines?"  ;D

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« Reply #566 on: July 13, 2016, 06:53:54 pm »
At a time when the Labour party is desperately required as a strong opposition, it's tragic to see it publicly tearing itself apart. I have commented on Angela Eagle before; she has put up some spirited debates in the House and is good, strong, practical and pragmatic character, I think that she would make a good choice as leader and a foil to Mrs May. The sooner the disgraceful farce is over, the better for the whole country - but it won't wholly settle, the Labour party has always been renowned for it's nasty simmering element to be able to bubble up again. And, if the Labour party does split, that's the end of any proper Parliamentary Labour Party opposition to the Tories for a decade.
Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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« Reply #567 on: July 13, 2016, 08:12:19 pm »
And, why did Jeremy Corbyn vote against a secret vote by the  National Executive? Ask Johanna Baxter, I listened to her on T'he World At One' today and read the  Guardian's online interview with her.

Totally and utterly disgraceful.

My original view of Corbyn has changed; I had considered him a principled, decent MP. He has been shown to be a deluded megalomaniac and a contemptible thug.

Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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« Reply #568 on: July 14, 2016, 01:26:19 pm »
And, why did Jeremy Corbyn vote against a secret vote by the  National Executive? Ask Johanna Baxter, I listened to her on T'he World At One' today and read the  Guardian's online interview with her.

Totally and utterly disgraceful.

My original view of Corbyn has changed; I had considered him a principled, decent MP. He has been shown to be a deluded megalomaniac and a contemptible thug.

Eh??
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« Reply #569 on: July 14, 2016, 01:35:53 pm »
And, why did Jeremy Corbyn vote against a secret vote by the  National Executive? Ask Johanna Baxter, I listened to her on T'he World At One' today and read the  Guardian's online interview with her.

Totally and utterly disgraceful.

My original view of Corbyn has changed; I had considered him a principled, decent MP. He has been shown to be a deluded megalomaniac and a contemptible thug.

Eh??


They voted for the leadership ballot to be secret because of the bullying and intimidation against the anti-Corbyn brigade. She says that as Jeremy Corbyn voted against a secret ballot that can only be interpreted that he endorses bullying and intimidation.
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