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Offline DaveR

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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2011, 10:09:27 am »
I was reading in the paper over the weekend how 'socialist firebrand union leader' Bob Crowe lives in social housing (with heavily subsidised rent) even though he earns £145,000 (including his expenses) a year.

What a tosser.  $angry$

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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2011, 10:15:30 am »
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I was reading in the paper over the weekend how 'socialist firebrand union leader' Bob Crowe lives in social housing (with heavily subsidised rent) even though he earns £145,000 (including his expenses) a year.

What a tosser.

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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2011, 05:17:35 pm »
The problem is that the existing rules are that once you have entitlement to social housing you are never reassessed.
It means that a house becomes your home and you can legally stay there for as long as you like.

Due to the lack of building of new socail/council homes and because of  the sell off of Council Houses it now means we have a lack of social housing.

The Con/Lib Dem government are introducing new laws that will mean that there will be regular reassessments to determine entitlement to houses and whether you have the correct size house. This will only affect new tennants or people who swap homes and take on new tennancy agreements.

The other concern we have at Cartrefi Conwy and other Housing Associations is that as families grow up and leave home we are left with couples living in family homes. What we are now looking at are ways of trying to rebalance this situation and find ways of encouraging tennants to move to more appropraite size homes, freeing up the desperately needed family homes.

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« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2011, 03:36:30 pm »
Bob Crow is in a no win situation. If he lived in a big mansion he'd get slated for that too!
He was born in a council house & grew up in a council house which he then refused to buy under the 'Right To Buy' scheme as he didn't agree with the principle as he recognised it would lead to a future housing shortage. If he had taken the option to buy it is obvious that by now he would own that property outright but he instead chooses to rent.
Mr Crow constantly gets slated by the national press as he is seen as the bad guy but people need to realise that it is the union membership that votes democratically to decide what action to take in times of dispute and they then tell Bob Crow what to do, not the other way around. He is just the figurehead for the union and as a fully paid up member of the RMT I know that without people like him I would be working for a lot less money and under worse conditions. I know he isn't perfect but I would prefer someone like him running my union as he gets results and backs the members 100%
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« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2011, 11:35:02 pm »
Ask the 180,000 miners who thought Mr Scargill was a great leader... and there are now less than 1600 in the NUM.

Yet, strangely, Mr Scargill keeps on drawing a huge pension and obscene benefits from the remnants of this once great union.

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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2011, 08:11:40 am »
He was born in a council house & grew up in a council house which he then refused to buy under the 'Right To Buy' scheme as he didn't agree with the principle as he recognised it would lead to a future housing shortage.
Always easy to have principles when you're on £145,000 a year!

Do you think it's right that a family who need a house are deprived of one because of his principles? After all, he can afford to rent anywhere, they need the subsidised rent of a housing association property.

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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2011, 08:19:57 am »
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Bob Crow is in a no win situation.

But by remaining in subsidised housing, surely it can be argued that he's effectively depriving those in real need, since social housing is - and always has been - experiencing a shortage of available units.

I think Crow is very much in the Scargill mould. He's from the old-school of union leadership which believes in a simplistic model of 'Us and Them', Management and Worker', 'Exploited and Exploiter'.  I think we've moved substantially beyond that, now, and the '70s - if they taught us anything - showed us that the relationship between the worker and the company in which they're employed is far from simple.  Short term, I have little doubt that he'll appear effective as the train companies, in particular, will simply acquiesce to his demands and the members will apparently get more money. But, rather like the miners, one has to wonder if the endless rounds of strategic striking, increases in salary and a constant portrayal of the companies involved as capitalistic monoliths  will eventually result in companies going to the wall and the loss of the jobs for those whom he implied he was protecting.
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Re: National politics
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2011, 09:08:45 am »
Well as far as the railways are concerned it's probably cheaper for two people to travel by Bentley than on a train (possibly not counting special deals booked 3 months in advance!) As with all  industries, the unions have priced themselves out of the market  :(
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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2011, 11:28:40 am »
From the Register:

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You will need "proven credibility in transformation through the delivery of digital channels and engagement".

You don't need any language skills, beyond deciphering the advert, but you will need to "champion the citizen/end user through the implementation of the Coalition Government's digital strategy".

You will also need to complete a Criminal Record Bureau check, but you don't need to be a UK national.
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Re: National politics
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2011, 01:08:22 pm »
i would be supprised if there are 1600 miners left in the country after thatcher,as for the benefits of office does she not receive pensions for her time as pm,and i seem to remember her getting paid by americans for her speechs on how  to bring unions to heel.she should be burnt at the stake using top class welsh coal.

Offline DaveR

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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2011, 01:16:43 pm »
Why would there be many coal miners now when no-one uses coal anymore?

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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2011, 01:49:24 pm »
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Why would there be many coal miners now when no-one uses coal anymore?

Did a quick Google on that and it appears the coal industry n the UK is actually fairly vibrant, although technology, the type of demand and cost of labour have all combined to make human miners of the past redundant.

Coal is still mined extensively at a number of deep pits in the Midlands and the North, and is extracted at several very large opencast pits in South Wales and elsewhere. There are proposals to re-open several deep pits with Russian capital, owing to the soaring price of the commodity.

The UK uses coal in heavy steel and iron processing, electricity generation and still - surprisingly - in a lot of homes.
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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2011, 05:30:17 am »
US Government shutdown averted as last minute deal reached.


Lawmakers announced late today (Friday) they had reached a compromise deal to avert a United States Government shutdown just hours before the shutdown would have taken effect.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20052351-503544.html

Offline Ian

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« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2011, 08:15:01 am »
Seems like that happens quite a bit in the US. Palin, of course, was making the most of it all, probably to deflect attention  from her erudition when she called the Libya operation ad 'squirmish".

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Re: National politics
« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2011, 12:49:22 pm »
Full list of Welsh Assembly Candidates:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/welsh-politics/assembly-election-2011/candidates/2011/04/10/assembly-election-2011-candidates-91466-28454897/

Amazing that, locally, the Labour candidate has no web presence at all!