Crime and criminals

[Ian]

I was brought up to believe that violence towards women was always unacceptable, regardless of any provocation.

Indeed, and the rationale for such convictions is that it's always a matter of brute strength against the more vulnerable. But you might be surprised to know that one third of victims of domestic violence are men. There are refuges for men, run by local councils, and the Indie reported recently on a sad case:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/domestic-violence-as-a-man-its-very-difficult-to-say-ive-been-beaten-up-8572143.html

I abhor violence and I detest bullying, but (and without any reference to this case in particular) things in this area are not as straightforward as many imagine.  Many women have also been known to employ the natural reluctance of most men to use physical violence against women to commit serious assaults on their partners and the courts are now starting to recognise this.

Violence against the vulnerable is bullying and the last refuge of the incompetent, but I'd tend to leave gender out of the argument. Times are changing.

[Ian]

The Mayo clinic is a good source of information on this:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/domestic-violence-against-men/MY00557

and Shelter has an advice line

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/families_and_relationships/domestic_abuse/domestic_abuse_against_men

[born2run]

I was brought up to believe that violence towards women was always unacceptable, regardless of any provocation.

you are wrong.

Violence towards anybody is unnacceptable.

The sterotypical  and narrow minded view on domestic violence you have makes violence adds to this kind of thing. Woman thinking they can attack men and nothing will happen, or men being too afraid to report such attacks because of fear of ridicule. If it had been a man who went into a bookies, punched someone in the face then got his head kicked in I doubt anybody would be condemming the attacker. But because it's a woman it's all different! What happened to equal rights?

My opinion they should both be charged for assualt!

[DaveR]

You obviously missed the Judge's comments:

"this was a shocking and sickening attack on a vulnerable female"

Still, I expect you know better.... 

[Yorkie]

In fact, I wouldn't flash the Celtic Badge around too much.  Do it in the wrong place, such as Glasgow, and you can get your head kicked in for no apparent reason whatsoever!
 

[Ian]

I think the reason I would want the book thrown at him was this:

"Witnesses saw him walk away but then return and kick her to the side, said prosecutor David Mainstone."

More than anything that speaks to mental illness but also to the most dangerous kind.

[Trojan]

In fact, I wouldn't flash the Celtic Badge around too much.  Do it in the wrong place, such as Glasgow, and you can get your head kicked in for no apparent reason whatsoever!
 

But it's a Glasgow Celtic badge.

Maybe in Bridgeton, yes.

But not in the Gorbals. 

[Yorkie]

But it's a Glasgow Celtic badge.

Maybe in Bridgeton, yes.

But not in the Gorbals. 

There is always the Blue..... brigade   

[Kowalski]

In fact, I wouldn't flash the Celtic Badge around too much.  Do it in the wrong place, such as Glasgow, and you can get your head kicked in for no apparent reason whatsoever!
 

Yeah, but this isn't Govan is it? It's north Wales, and there are quite a few people in this area that feel an affinity with Celtic. Me being one.

[Yorkie]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.  I am not implying that the Celtic Badge should not be flashed about in any particular place, least of all North Wales.   But having lived in the greater Glasgow area I am cognisant of the differences twixt the Green and Blue.    ZXZ

[Kowalski]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.  I am not implying that the Celtic Badge should not be flashed about in any particular place, least of all North Wales.   But having lived in the greater Glasgow area I am cognisant of the differences twixt the Green and Blue.    ZXZ

So you must have noticed that north Wales isn't greater Glasgow.

[Yorkie]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.  I am not implying that the Celtic Badge should not be flashed about in any particular place, least of all North Wales.   But having lived in the greater Glasgow area I am cognisant of the differences twixt the Green and Blue.    ZXZ

So you must have noticed that north Wales isn't greater Glasgow.

Having lived here for 25 years, I have discovered lots about Wales and its people, and the overall conclusion is that it is not unlike any other place in the UK.  Although, of choice, I would prefer the South East of England which is the place of my roots.   

[DaveR]

there are quite a few people in this area that feel an affinity with Celtic.

Genuine question - why is that?

[Fester]

there are quite a few people in this area that feel an affinity with Celtic.

Genuine question - why is that?

Well, other than Kowalski and Born To Run, I don't know any!

However, I have noticed that there are a large number of Everton fans.  More than any other club without doubt.

[born2run]

there are quite a few people in this area that feel an affinity with Celtic.

Genuine question - why is that?

Same reason there is a strong affinity to Everton.

The proximity of Liverpool - and Liverpool's (and somewhat North Wales) connections to Irish heritage.