The 2011 Riots

[Merddin Emrys]

A car was found burnt-out on the West Shore. Did people want to shoot the perpetrator/s? A child steals sweets from the Red Shop, blow his legs off with a shotgun?

I once had a car stolen in around 1980, back the next day minus the stereo, to this day I would be happy to shoot him,   they can't do it again then!

I see Merddyn. If I ever stroll over to Penrhyn Bay to take a look at your Triumph Spitfire parked in your driveway, remind me to ring your door bell first. 

You will always be welcome   

Seeing these mindless rioters on the BBC news, got me very angry this morning, it's happened to other people that I've been chatting to in a shop today too!  I think most people in this country are up in arms over it 

[DaveR]

A child steals sweets from the Red Shop

That would be Burglary, mate, it's been shut down for a year. 

[Yorkie]

Why don't they just arrest everyone wearing a "hoodie", throw them in the back of 40 foot containers, then drop them in the middle of the Atlantic?

Ban the Burka at the same time.

[DaveR]

There's another point: has it occurred to any of the righteous that many of the 'mob' may well be saying "well, MPs break the law, newspapers break the law, the rich break the law;  why shouldn't we?'.  We've been surrounded for over three years with stories about how the supposed 'bulwarks of society' have broken the law, willy-nilly, and escaped - by and large - scot free.  The mob have destroyed homes - that's certainly true; but I suspect a lot of those involved are seeing a gradual and inexorable breakdown of society, led by MPs, Bankers, Stockbrokers, the Media, tycoons and all the people who are supposed to lead by example. You might want to shoot the more obvious targets, but what about the bankers who've destroyed lives?  The media proprietors? Should we shoot them? Or shod we only shoot those who threaten those with money?

I doubt if even 1% of these thugs has ever thought about such things. Do the 'Bankers and Media Proprietors' use violence and destroy peoples homes and livelihoods? I hardly think so. And what on earth have Stockbrokers ever done?!

[DaveR]

Joke (courtesy of Fester):

"I was caught up in the riots in Tottenham last night and needed to find somewhere safe to hide, somewhere that the rioters would never go to. So I hid in the Jobcentre."

I know, it's the way I tell 'em... 

[Yorkie]

A shop has been set on fire during the riots in London.

It is now a Tottenham Hot-spar.     

[TheMedz]

Just watching tonight's Sky tv news coverage from Salford. The question might be asked as to whether the presence of sky cameras (at exactly the spot where the trouble was) is reporting the news or creating it. How may of the people involved were induced into taking part because the cameras were there and they could look "hard" in front of their mates. Shameless is a word that springs to mind!

[DaveR]

Very good point, TheMedz. The presence of tv cameras undoubtedly encourages such behaviour. Both Sky and the BBC are particularly guilty in this respect.

[Pendragon]

I think they should flood light the streets. introduce a curfew then tag anyone caught out, prosecute the ones that are and make an example out of them.  Parents held responsible for all those kids out after 8pm.  If the streets are flood lit it would be easier to take photos, if I had a shop in one of these areas my CCTV would be pointing straight at the doors and windows.

[Pendragon]

Fair play there is people out there prepared to speak out against these thugs.

Truly extraordinary speech by fearless Black Woman in face of Hackney London rioters - A MUST SEE.

[DaveR]

Facebook Page for people to join:

"Supporting the Met Police against the London rioters"
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Supporting-the-Met-Police-against-the-London-rioters/152937041453243?sk=info

In just one day 774,358 people have joined the Group.

[Pendragon]

I've joined the page.

[Pendragon]

From whats been said on face book and the vids being posted Millwall and Palace fans have joined up to get rid of the rioters.  I can't post them here for some reason.  It seems racist factors of the communities are now getting involved with the excuse"it's for the nation"?

[Fester]

Ah well this is of course the next logical progression.

The rioters and looters are predominantly black, it is not wrong to say that .. its true, look at the TV footage.
It is only cities with a heavy black population (Wolverhampton, Bristol etc) that have followed suit.

So, of course this will cause further divisions along ethnic lines, and allow the BNP, the EDL and others to garner more support.

But thats natural, and the rioters have brought it on themselves ... and deserve all they get in terms of vilification and punishment.
There has to be an example set, long prison sentences etc... a few cracked heads by police batons, its the only thing they understand.   Remember this, they would do it to YOU, without a moments hesitation.
 

[Pendragon]

I agree Fester