Craig Y Don

[DaveR]

I think the women go to have the nails painted and decorated, rather than clipped....

What about the men?

You'd have to ask Fester that one.... 

[Merddin Emrys]

 L0L

[richardfaz]

Anyone else bothered by the late night music/smoking area ruckus at the Washington Wine Bar?

It seem to have developed from a peaceful "Wine Bar" to a second night club, but facing residents rather than the sea!

Thankfully the recent weather has meant they close the doors giving some relief, but otherwise I can forget sleeping at the weekend until 1:30 to 2am, even with my windows shut.

[dwsi]

Anyone else bothered by the late night music/smoking area ruckus at the Washington Wine Bar?

It seem to have developed from a peaceful "Wine Bar" to a second night club, but facing residents rather than the sea!

Thankfully the recent weather has meant they close the doors giving some relief, but otherwise I can forget sleeping at the weekend until 1:30 to 2am, even with my windows shut.

You can contact the council through this link :-
Conwy County Borough Council : A to Z of services : Noise Pollution http://bit.ly/xLTZOO

Noise Pollution

Contact details
Officer:  Bethan Lloyd(C) / Huw Williams(C)
Designation:  Principal Environmental Health Officers
Phone:  01492 575242
Fax:  01492 575204
Email:  regulatory.services@conwy.gov.uk
Address 
Civic Offices
Colwyn Bay
Conwy
LL29 8AR

[DaveR]

I would say its a matter for the Licencing Dept, as matters such as noise are controlled within the Premises Licence. Bars in Upper Mostyn Street have to make sure that no-one is drinking outside after a certain time etc etc.

[dwsi]

I would say its a matter for the Licencing Dept, as matters such as noise are controlled within the Premises Licence. Bars in Upper Mostyn Street have to make sure that no-one is drinking outside after a certain time etc etc.

Conwy County Borough Council : Licensing Section http://bit.ly/yOPYvJ

[richardfaz]

Thanks for your replies and advice dwsi and Dave.

I have sent several noise nuisance logs to the Conwy Environmental Health Office, and am currently waiting for Bethan to reply to my letter and email requesting she send me more blank forms.

I was curious to know if others have been affected but for whatever reason haven't complained. I live around 100 yards from the Washington, and there are obviously people living closer, who must also be suffering (or deaf!).

I'm surprised the sheltered accommodation at Crwt Sant Tudno, and the B&B's on the prom haven't created an issue about the Night Club too.

Craig-y-Don is after all a residential area, NOT an area which should have permitted the heavy clubbing at the Wash Night Club, let alone the newer noise of the Wine Bar.

 

[Bri Roberts]

Unfortunately, both the Washington and Broadway Boulevard were already Night Clubs when Cwrt St Tudno was first built.

The newer noise of the wine bar is certainly a new issue and should be quickly addressed by CCBC.

[richardfaz]

I'd agree it should be addressed by the CCBC, and quickly. But I'm not getting the speed of response that would lead me to think they will!! I was promised a recording device "within 4 weeks" when I first reported them back in September, but no sign yet. And, since I live around 100 yards away from the Wine Bar, I'm not confident the noise levels recorded here (although very annoying to us, even with windows closed) would carry as much weight as levels recorded by the CCBC themselves outside the Wine Bar itself, which IMHO is what they ought to be doing.

I feel they are treating the Wine Bar as a nuisance neighbour issue, rather than a licencing issue.   

Also, we would obviously be more likely to get action, if I wasn't the only person reporting the Washington Wine Bar and their noise!

[Cambrian]

I wonder if people are not talking to each other in the Council. A resident in another part of Craig y Don asked for a review of the licence of a premises because of noise.  This triggered a hearing in front of a committee and the premises was required to enhance the soundproofing. Perhaps if you simply write to the Licensing Section formally asking for the premises licence to be reviewed because of the nuisance you are suffering that would concentrate minds.

[Bri Roberts]

Why not set up a meeting between you and one, or both, of our local councillors and please let us know how you get on?

cllr.janet.finchsaunders@conwy.gov.uk cllr.janet.finchsaunders@conwy.gov.uk

cllr.christine.jones@conwy.gov.uk cllr.christine.jones@conwy.gov.uk

There will be council elections in little more than three months time and I would like to know how each performs to your concerns.

[DaveR]

The old PATS Newsagents shop in Queens Road is now a Kitchen shop, whilst the former Brian Bates Hairdressers on Mostyn Avenue whill shortly be the new home of Laura, who runs the Benitos men's hairdressers in Victoria street.

[Yorkie]

Why not set up a meeting between you and one, or both, of our local councillors and please let us know how you get on?
cllr.janet.finchsaunders@conwy.gov.uk cllr.janet.finchsaunders@conwy.gov.uk
cllr.christine.jones@conwy.gov.uk cllr.christine.jones@conwy.gov.uk
There will be council elections in little more than three months time and I would like to know how each performs to your concerns.

You will never get help from JFS unless it is something that will enhance or help JFS herself.   And that is from personal experience.

In fact I would say that you won't get help from either until you see a Squadron of pigs flying at 30,000 ft over C-Y-D.     

[richardfaz]

Thank you guys for your comments.

It's interesting the Washington does already have a history of noise problems. Was that instance the Night Club or the Wine Bar, cambrian?

There's no sound-proofing for the wine bar - the main doors are wide open, except in extreme weather, leaving just a flimsy swing door. The smoking area is wide open so the rowdyness is heard by all around. If it ceased at midnight it would perhaps be bearable, but it continues on until 2:30 or so, which is intolerable in a residential area.

The noise from the Night Club is even worse if you happen to be on the Prom, but fortunately does not affect us. I'm amazed the B&B's and hotels on the front put up with it though - I'd certainly not stay in any of them with that noise going on and on!

I'll get back in touch with the CCBC next week, mentioning the licencing side of things and see what happens. After that, maybe a councillor could help, it is another approach, although again a few more complainants would help.

[Nemesis]

Alot depends on who your councillors are, which ward does your actual residence come into and is the Washington in the same one? It looks a little borderline by the maps. Some local councillors are helpful-- others can be  :twoface:
Phil Rafferty is the chappie in charge of licensing-- perhaps a word in his ear would help ?
Why not trot round with a petition?  This will also give you a slant on other people's opinions.