Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza

[Nemesis]

Well put Fester-- but don't ever ask too many questions!

[Ian]

The Extravaganza committee is always on the lookout for fresh faces, new talent and willing volunteers. Having said that it's the timing which presents the biggest issue. In many ways it might make sense for the event to be run by members from the 3TF, but it's a far harder event to run than it appears.

The fairground element looks after itself, more or less, and the road closures, etc.  have already been sought and agreed, but the one time all hands are needed is during the week previous and the three days of the event itself.

If you're eager to become involved, shall I pass your details over to the organisers, Fester?  They'd be very glad to have you on board, but remember that you'd have to leave your stall on the pier for about seven days in total. It's a big ask...

[Craigydonian]

I've been thinking about this.  (Always a dangerous thing for me to be doing)

The Extravaganza (love it or hate it) is a massively important event, and if there is such a big threat to its existence then surely there is a process that could be followed to salvage the situation.

All I have seen on this subject is a few unofficial posts on this forum.
So, is the threat THAT great?  If so, I would suggest the following course of action.

The Committee members should put out an appeal to the local community, asking for people with management experience and spare time to devote, to come forward.  Heaven knows there are lots of such people in this area.
Then, and more importantly, spell out what is actually needed to be done.

Personally, from the little I have seen, it is made out to be something akin to having to eat a whole raw cow for dinner.
But when faced with something as daunting as that, simply break the tasks down into a list which can be shared out, and apportion responsibilities to those who come forward.

Even I was wondering whether I should offer my services, but no one is giving me any idea of what I would be letting myself in for?  So obviously I keep schtum.  I imagine many others will feel likewise.

Let us know what is required, what needs to be done, and you may well be inundated with volunteers.

Having spoken to the acting chairman yesterday I'm assured this year's event will go ahead as originally planned but I'm sure there can never be enough volunteers.

[Fester]

But i was led to believe that the entire event was under threat, or at best drastically downscaled, for the want of a leader?  It would seem that the panic is over and management control has been re-established. I look forward to once again patronising and enjoying the event. Z**

[Ian]

It's been permanently "under threat" for years, and it needs many more volunteers to keep it going.   

[DaveR]

Maybe they should ask for some then? The whole thing seems shrouded in secrecy - who actually is on the committee? I have no idea who is on it, can anyone name them? Why are the accounts not published on their website etc etc. Transparency is necessary if they wish to attract more support.

[dwsi]

THE LLANDUDNO VICTORIAN EXTRAVAGANZA CO LIMITED - board members http://bit.ly/AEcKWh

[Bri Roberts]

I am surprised to learn it is not a registered charity.

Their accounts, DaveR, are available to purchase online from Companies House for a small fee.

I am also surprised to note the resignation of the Town Mayor as a Director just before Xmas as well as how often its registered office has changed since its incorporation.

I guess there must be a reasonable explanation for it all.

[Yorkie]

Can't be a registered charity because it has a single purpose to raise funds for the event itself.  That is why it is registered as a Company limited by Guarantee.   

[Bri Roberts]

Thank you, Yorkie.

When I used to support the event with a paid business advert, I always thought I was supporting a not-for-profit organisation.

Do you happen know what it was then before it became a Limited Company in 1997.

[DaveR]

Why is our steamed esteemed Mayor on there twice, even after he has resigned once?   

Name    Function    Appointment type    Date
MRS GAYNOR LOUISE BAKER   Director   Appointment   21/12/2010
GREGORY ROBBINS   Director   Appointment terminated   19/12/2010
COUNCILLOR GREGORY JAMES THOMAS ROBBINS   Director   Appointment   08/07/2010
GARETH OWEN   Director   Appointment terminated   17/06/2010
ALAN THOMAS GUNN   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
COUNCILLOR GREG ROBBINS   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
GARETH OWEN   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
GLORIA JANNETTE SPEAR   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010

[Fester]

Not sure I understand that list.... surely Mr Owen was involved for more than three days??

Anyhow, is the panic officially over now?   

[Ian]

When I used to support the event with a paid business advert, I always thought I was supporting a not-for-profit organisation.  Do you happen know what it was then before it became a Limited Company in 1997.

It always was a not-for-profit organisation;  in that sense, nothing's changed. However, after the founders of the event had had enough in the late 1990s, the Heritage Trust (a registered charity) assumed the mantle, and created the Heritage Company to handle the financial side of  the Extravaganza. It remained like that until 1995.  What happened after that I don't know.

[Bri Roberts]

Ian, this is the activity from 1997 until now.

BTW, it is already in the publc domain and is also probably better read from the bottom upwards.

Date Description Order   

 AA 22/08/2011 30/11/10 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 AR01 13/04/2011 25/03/11 NO MEMBER LIST
   
 AP01 21/12/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MRS GAYNOR LOUISE BAKER
   
 TM01 19/12/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GREGORY ROBBINS
   
 AA 31/08/2010 30/11/09 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 AP01 08/07/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED COUNCILLOR GREGORY JAMES THOMAS ROBBINS
   
 TM01 17/06/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GARETH OWEN
   
 AR01 14/06/2010 25/03/10 NO MEMBER LIST
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ALAN THOMAS GUNN / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / COUNCILLOR GREG ROBBINS / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / GARETH OWEN / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / GLORIA JANNETTE SPEAR / 08/12/2009
   
 AD01 14/06/2010 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 14/06/2010 FROM
TY WRECSAM
7 GERDDI GLEDHILL
LLANDUDNO
CONWY
LL30 1GG
   
 AA 27/07/2009 30/11/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 363a 24/06/2009 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/09
   
 AA 31/10/2008 30/11/07 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL
   
 363a 21/04/2008 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/08
   
 AA 19/09/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/06
   
 363s 30/04/2007 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/07
   
 AA 27/04/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/04
   
 AA 27/04/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/05
   
 225 21/03/2007 ACC. REF. DATE EXTENDED FROM 30/09/06 TO 30/11/06
   
 363s 05/06/2006 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/06
   
 363s 22/03/2005 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/05
   
 AA 10/12/2004 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/03
   
 288c 29/04/2004 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
   
 363s 24/03/2004 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/04
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 287 25/01/2004 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 25/01/04 FROM:
23 ABBEY ROAD
LLANDUDNO
CONWY LL30 2EH
   
 288a 21/10/2003 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
 AA 02/10/2003 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/02
   
 363s 07/04/2003 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/03
   
    363(288)    07/04/2003    SECRETARY RESIGNED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR RESIGNED
     
 288b 23/01/2003 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 287 23/01/2003 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 23/01/03 FROM:
FRON FARM
BRYN PYDEW
LLANDUDNO JUNCTION
GWYNEDD LL31 9QD
   
 363s 15/04/2002 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/02
   
 AA 19/12/2001 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/01
   
 363s 14/04/2001 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/01
   
 AA 16/02/2001 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/00
   
 AA 23/08/2000 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/99
   
 288a 21/04/2000 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 363s 21/04/2000 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/00
   
 288b 21/04/2000 SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
 AA 06/08/1999 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/99
   
 288b 12/07/1999 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 288b 12/07/1999 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 225 12/07/1999 ACC. REF. DATE SHORTENED FROM 31/03/00 TO 30/09/99
   
 287 12/07/1999 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 12/07/99 FROM:
10 HAFOD ROAD WEST
PENRHYN BAY
LLANDUDNO
CONWY LL30 3PN
   
 363s 19/04/1999 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/99
   
 AA 31/01/1999 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/98
   
 363s 18/04/1998 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/98
   
 288a 10/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 287 06/04/1997 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 06/04/97 FROM:
THE BRITANNIA SUITE
INTERNATIONAL HOUSE
82-86 DEANSGATE
MANCHESTER M3 2ER
   
 288b 06/04/1997 SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
 288b 06/04/1997 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
 NEWINC 25/03/1997 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION      

 

[Yorkie]

And that is only a list of the Documents lodged at Companies House - what other matters are concealed under the surface?