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Conwy council conducts official investigation over 'inaccurate' Llandudno library figures
Cabinet to vote on Tuesday


Conwy is conducting an official investigation after “£126K savings” presented to back the closure of Llandudno ’s Mostyn Street library were labelled inaccurate. At a special meeting on Wednesday, Conwy ’s head of finance claimed closing Llandudno’s library and moving the service to Venue Cymru would save £126K a year.

Head of finance Ms Amanda Hughes had claimed Conwy was paying around £46,000 a year in electricity bills to Npower at the current site – a sum referenced as a future saving if the move went ahead. But this was before Cllr Louise Emery produced a letterheaded bill at the Coed Pella scrutiny committee.

What on earth made the CCBC  come up with the idea of moving the Library to the Venue Cymru in the first place?    It's bonkers







https://ct.moreover.com/?a=57143146409&p=14e&v=1&x=kMW5Y9rPIK99j3kugWKmfQ&u1=ND&u2=up-urn:user:PA187552270

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #496 on: August 02, 2025, 02:14:38 pm »
'Missing' business case for Llandudno library move must be released
Earlier this month Conwy’s cabinet backed the plans, despite concerns a business plan, requested by an earlier scrutiny committee never materialised.

At the special economy and place overview and scrutiny committee on July 2, Cllr Chris Hughes proposed councillors backed the plan for the library move, and this was seconded by Cllr Dave Jones before it was voted through.
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I take it that our Councillors actually took a vote on something that they didn't have the full facts?       Why didn't they just defer the vote until the full facts were known and they could make a proper decision?
I've often called the Councillors a bunch of nodding donkeys because when one Councillor propose something all the others just nod in agreement.     I've realised that my remark could be taken as offensive so I must apologise  to my four legged Donkey friends if they have taken umbrage at my remark


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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #497 on: August 02, 2025, 02:50:48 pm »
That just shows you how bad CCBC has gone.  It’s a disgrace that most of them councillors are sat at home behind a laptop.    We know very well why they want the library & tourist information moved to the venue. And that is to make the losses look better.   You watch Mike priestly will get the cabinet post for ERF.  😡

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #498 on: August 03, 2025, 11:11:57 am »
A  planning application was approved near where I live and the Planning Committee made a number of conditions on the development
One ofv which was the permitted hours of work on the site:-
Weekdays  8.00 am  to  6.00 pm
Saturdays  8.00 am to  1.00  pm
No work whatsoever on Sundays and Bank Holidays  to protect the amenities of the neighbours

This was part of the terms and conditions granted in the planning application approval.       The Developer said that he didn't see why they should apply to him and has ignored them ever since.        The Planning Officer caseworker and the Enforcement team are fully aware of the breaches of planning conditions yet they turn a blind eye to what is going on
In recent monthsa very serious accident occurred on the site ande were badly injured with one of them having life changing injuries.   Two ambulances and an air ambulance were involved and the male who had life changing injuries was air lifted to Stoke Mandeville Hospital
The Health and Safety Executive  ( HSE )  of CCBC are fully aware of the incident but appear to have done nothing becausethe lack of H & S on the site continues.  It is pure conjecture but I wonder if the developer has carried out his legal obligation and notified HSE?

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #499 on: August 03, 2025, 06:57:11 pm »
Wow that’s shocking.   That sounds so bad it warrants a jail sentence.   

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« Reply #500 on: August 03, 2025, 10:31:01 pm »
It is a serious matter Norman as failing to notify the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) about a serious accident on site can lead to severe consequences for the contractor, including substantial fines and even imprisonment
There are some things that cannot be swept under the carpet and H & S  is one of them.      CCBC  must be held accountable if nothing is done about this avoidable accident so watch this space

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #501 on: August 07, 2025, 06:09:33 pm »
I'm not sure where this should be posted, the situation is as it is because of incompetence somewhere down the line but it's not the fault of those at the frontline I wouldn't have though.
Someone I know has a condition that is so alarming they decided to cut out the GP and head straight to A&E at Glan Clwyd. They arrived at 10.45a.m. on Wednesday where they waited until today Thursday A.M. before proper tests and examinations were being done. The investigations demonstrated that they should be kept in the hospital but no beds were available until finally at 3.30pm one was allocated to them. Not on a ward but in the hallway outside. They were told the average wait for a bed is 40 hours.
You have been warned.
How on earth did we arrive at this situation?

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #502 on: August 07, 2025, 07:30:49 pm »
There are major issues with BC Health board. My wife was admitted as an emergency but left for 30 hours on a trolley directly beneath a siren on a corridor. This sort of treatment is incredibly dangerous, and the MPs have to step up and demand that something to alleviate the mess is done and done quickly. 

My wife had to endure a month as an in-patient, and by the end of the month they discharged her without being able to discover the cause of her admission.
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« Reply #503 on: August 08, 2025, 07:15:59 am »
There are major issues with BC Health board. My wife was admitted as an emergency but left for 30 hours on a trolley directly beneath a siren on a corridor. This sort of treatment is incredibly dangerous, and the MPs have to step up and demand that something to alleviate the mess is done and done quickly. 

My wife had to endure a month as an in-patient, and by the end of the month they discharged her without being able to discover the cause of her admission.

That's terrible Ian. I hope she is OK now.
Some A&E attendees have life threatening conditions, you wonder if any have lost their lives as a result of the wait.
The front line staff must feel demotivated when they are having to work in these conditions too although I have had a personal experience of the lack of motivation and care by some individuals at Glan Clwyd albeit many years ago now. I was recently an inpatient at Liverpool's Walton hospital and I have to say the positive, caring attitude of every single member of staff I came in to contact with was very assuring.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #504 on: August 08, 2025, 08:10:49 am »
There are major issues with BC Health board.
My wife had to endure a month as an in-patient, and by the end of the month they discharged her without being able to discover the cause of her admission.

That's terrible Ian. I hope she is OK now.
Some A&E attendees have life threatening conditions, you wonder if any have lost their lives as a result of the wait.
The front line staff must feel demotivated when they are having to work in these conditions too although I have had a personal experience of the lack of motivation and care by some individuals at Glan Clwyd albeit many years ago now. I was recently an inpatient at Liverpool's Walton hospital and I have to say the positive, caring attitude of every single member of staff I came in to contact with was very assuring.

I agree; I was sent from YGC to Liverpool's Heart and Chest hospital for bypass surgery and the attention to the patient was worlds away from BC health board.
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #505 on: August 08, 2025, 06:14:15 pm »
I'm not sure where this should be posted, the situation is as it is because of incompetence somewhere down the line but it's not the fault of those at the frontline I wouldn't have though.
Someone I know has a condition that is so alarming they decided to cut out the GP and head straight to A&E at Glan Clwyd. They arrived at 10.45a.m. on Wednesday where they waited until today Thursday A.M. before proper tests and examinations were being done. The investigations demonstrated that they should be kept in the hospital but no beds were available until finally at 3.30pm one was allocated to them. Not on a ward but in the hallway outside. They were told the average wait for a bed is 40 hours.
You have been warned.
How on earth did we arrive at this situation?
Many people don't know about the existence of SDEC (Same Day Emergency Care), the one at Glan Clwyd is down at the end of the main corridor just past the Lifts. Worth bearing in mind if you phone 111 or speak to a GP to get a referral into SDEC:

SDEC stands for Same Day Emergency Care. It's a service within the NHS designed to assess, diagnose, and treat emergency patients on the same day, avoiding hospital admission. This aims to reduce waiting times, hospital stays, and improve patient experience.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Purpose:
SDEC provides an alternative to traditional A&E and hospital admissions for patients who can be safely treated and discharged within the same day.

How it works:
Patients are rapidly assessed, diagnosed, and treated in a hospital setting, but without needing to stay overnight.

Benefits:
SDEC offers several advantages, including:
Reduced waiting times: Patients are seen and treated more quickly.
Lower admission rates: Many patients can be managed without being admitted.
Improved patient experience: SDEC can lead to shorter and more efficient care.
Cost savings: Both for the hospital and sometimes for the patient.

Referral:
SDEC is not a walk-in service, and patients are usually referred through various channels:
GPs
Community teams
NHS 111
Ambulances
Emergency departments

Conditions treated:
SDEC can handle a wide range of conditions, including medical, surgical, and specialist cases like paediatrics and gynaecology. Examples of conditions treated in SDEC include:
Headaches
Acute kidney infections
Leg swelling (without injury)
Chest pain
Shortness of breath
Abdominal pain
Anaemia
Seizures
Dizziness
Abnormal bloods
Liver problems
Cardiac arrhythmias
Gastrointestinal problems
Urology issues.

Duration of stay:
The average patient spends 4-6 hours in SDEC, but it can vary depending on the investigations and treatment required.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #506 on: August 28, 2025, 12:58:41 pm »
North Wales council facing £22m budget shortfall
It is facing a 'very challenging financial outlook'


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-council-facing-22m-32362127


Perhaps this is one of the reasons why CCBC is in a mess?
Banning media from unusable HGV depot meeting a 'scandalous cover-up' Tory MS claims
The purpose-built depot on Mochdre can't house trucks but taxpayers are on the hook for a £240k a year lease until 2031


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/banning-media-unusable-hgv-depot-32360222
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #507 on: August 28, 2025, 05:20:53 pm »
Quote of the year?

"I think there is some ineptness here."

JFS.
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #508 on: August 29, 2025, 04:08:28 pm »
You are certainly correct in quoting that Ian. As the saying goes 'the buck stops at the top' & the Leader at the time of Mochdre Units lease & unusable HGV depot was Cllr Dilwyn Roberts Plaid Cymru. He was also Leader when the arrangement were made regarding the building & lease for Coed Pella Offices in Colwyn Bay, thousand wasted there too. Not only that while Leader he was threatened with court proceedings twice for failing to pay his Council Tax. He was voted in as Vice Chair of the Finance & Resources Overview & Scrutiny Committee this year. More recently he has been rewarded with a Cabinet Post for Culture, Governance & IT. So it seem incompetence pays at Conwy County Borough Council.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #509 on: September 01, 2025, 07:17:03 pm »
Excellent detective work there Meleri,   Miss Marple would be very proud of you.

The CCBC meeting was held today and was featured on ITV Wales but when it came to the discussion on the Lorry Depot in Mochdre that was held behind closed doors and the reporters all had to leave the room
I bet you would have liked to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting Meleri