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Offline jackiecj

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Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« on: January 27, 2011, 12:04:42 pm »
Hi Does anyone have any information, or better still pictures, of Roby house, The shop was founded & run by the Roberts family . The business was taken over by a multiple firm, soon after the end of the 2nd world war. Could this have been the Maypole shop on Mostyn Street-now a Lidl shop?
All help / suggestions gratefully received. Thanks in anticipation......

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 12:25:36 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 12:37:05 pm »
Ooops! Llandudno - Mostyn Street

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 12:47:25 pm »
Roby House - we could do with a number for it really. It says on the BBC website that it was called 'Coopers' at one time? One of the early business guides may have the info, I shall try and have a look in the Library if I get time.

Bit of info on page 19 of the Parish Magazine here (that you might already have seen):

http://www.llandudno-parish.org.uk/pm1110web.pdf

Oddly enough, the info refers to Roby House as being on Church Walks - so maybe it was on the corner of both Mostyn Street and Church Walks, making it this property which is across the road from the Empire Hotel:


Flatiron Building, Llandudno Style by davidrobertsphotography, on Flickr

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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 01:14:53 pm »
Hi Does anyone have any information, or better still pictures, of Roby house, The shop was founded & run by the Roberts family . The business was taken over by a multiple firm, soon after the end of the 2nd world war. Could this have been the Maypole shop on Mostyn Street-now a Lidl shop?
All help / suggestions gratefully received. Thanks in anticipation......

Do we actually have a Lidl? We did have a Farmfoods, but that went a while back.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 01:28:08 pm »
Cant have been the Maypole (now HMV) - that was originally the St George's Hall/Princes Theatre/New Princes Cinema. It only became a shop sometime in the 1950s/60s.

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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 02:23:24 pm »
Sure I've seen the words Roby House somewhere--- could it have been in Upper Mostyn Street nearly at the top opposite the Ros Tor?
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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 02:41:13 pm »
The article in the parish magazine includes information about the funeral of Harry Lloyd Roberts-He was the grandson of Thomas Roberts, as it says in the article. Roby House on Church Walks was the family home in 1918
There was also a Roby Mount on Church Walks in the1960s-the home of another grandson-John Frederick Gordon Roberts.

The 1891 census for Thomas Roberts gives an address of 114 Mostyn Street
The 1901 census for James Henry Roberts(Thomas' son) gives an address of Roby House, Llewelyn Street
(I dont know whether these are just  residential addresses or whether there was a shop there also)
The 1911 census shows that there are 2 Roby House premises on Llewelyn Street:
1.  Roby House Stores-Lock up shop
2. RobyHouse Fruit Stores

I also thought that the shop later on was on Mostyn Street, but I'm not sure about this.

Re-"Do we have a Lidl?"
I may have thought wrongly that the shop was a Lidl shop- it could have been Farmfoods!

Hope this extra info may be useful

I'm new to this &  I got a bit carried away this morning, thinking that I may have found a source of information, and just dived in without planning what I was going to say, or more to the point what I needed to say!!
Thanks to everyonefor  trying to help!














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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 03:50:22 pm »
My O.H. says it was the Flatiron building shown in the photo, opposite the Empire Hotel.
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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 06:08:23 pm »
Suepp has a 1929 Street Index of Llandudno and I'm sure she could find it easily in there.  These indexes are alphabetical too which help in tracing people.
If I go to the Conwy Archives next week I'll have a look if the answer is not found in the meantime.

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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 06:41:02 pm »
Jackiecj  I  am sure that you are aware of this but I have copied it just in case.  

5) Harry Lloyd Roberts, killed in
action on 23rd April 1918, aged 28.
The CWGC register shows him as
a private in the Royal Marine Light
Infantry attached to HMS ‘Vindictive’.
The inscription on his grave reads ‘Honoured
Memory of Harry Lloyd Roberts,
Royal Marines, died of wounds received
on the Mole at the Battle of Zeebrugge,
April 23rd 1918, aged 28.’
The first report of his death appeared
in the Llandudno Advertiser on 27th
April 1918. It reads, ‘The brilliant naval
exploits at Ostend, Zeebrugge claimed
the life of a Llandudno man, Harry
Lloyd Roberts. His mother was away
from home and two uncles went to
Chatham to arrange the return of the
body to Llandudno.’ In the Llandudno
Advertiser on the 4th May 1918 there is
a comprehensive report of the funeral.
In that report it shows that the body
was returned on a Saturday evening
and the funeral took place the following
afternoon, a Sunday!
There a glowing testimony to Harry
in this report describing him as ‘one
of those intrepid volunteers who have
gained immortal fame for their courageous
work on the “Vindictive” the war
vessel which, battered beyond recognition
in her upper works, came back
from the inferno at Zeebrugge, carrying
with her the dead and wounded in as
gallant an action as any inscribed on the
records of the Navy.’
Harry was the eldest son of Mr Harry
Roberts and Mrs Roberts, Roby House,
Church Walks and grandson of Mr.
Thomas Roberts, founder of the firm
Messrs T Roberts, Roby House. He
had been in the Llandudno Boy Scouts,
a member of the Llandudno Amateur
Dramatic Society and a sidesman of the
Church of St. Tudno.
He is buried in the family grave in Section
‘G’ at the beginning of the path
leading to the town cemetery.
He also was buried with full military and
naval honours and I’ve selected parts of
the report on the funeral to show what
such a funeral entailed: ‘The funeral was
announced for half past two, but long
before that hour people began to assemble
in the vicinity of Roby Mount,

There is a lot more written about him but I have just copied this part.  It seems that Harry Roberts was a very well respected person
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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 09:35:38 pm »
The 1929 directory  lists T Roberts and sons as grocers in the trades listings at both 1 Llewellyn Street  and at 114 Mostyn street -grocers and fruiterers -  (Now Fountains)

Re the photo of the flatiron building is it not on the corner of Tudno street? - in which case does not fit with the listing.

 both addresses have the name Roby House in the alphabetical listings and also  in the street listings.

Llewellyn street is now Llewellyn Avenue and number 1 - I'm thinking -is directly next door to fountains and m ay refer to the upper floors of the shop as it was? If you look at Google earth there is a door in between Fountains and the old petshop, and the next house along is number 5
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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 10:30:25 pm »
just found in Llandudno Queen of the Welsh Resorts a photo of the  grocers shop on the corner of Tudno and Mostyn streets,  it was the grocery shop of Tenby & son and also the London and North Western Railway parcels office, the photo looks to be early 1900's, sorry my scanner didn't scan properly so not able to display the photo. It's  on page 80

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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 10:36:28 pm »
Here's T. Roberts' shop at Roby House at 1 Llewellyn Street (now Fountains bar):
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Re: Messrs T Roberts Roby House (grocers & provisions)
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 01:05:31 pm »
Wow I'm impressed!!! Thanks Everyone for all your help!!!