I have been looking for this couple off and on for a while now and since a previous comment quite some time ago in "Great Orme Cemetery", I think, I have a little more information, which may help in my search.
Thomas WILLIAMS was born probably Caernarvonshire, may be Caerhun/Rowen. He was a shoemaker.
His wife Emma was born about 1772/75 in Caerhun as stated by census returns in 1841 and 1851. Thomas and Emma would have married some time around 1814 or earlier having their first known child baptised in 1814 at St. Mary's in Caerhun, (I have the baptism record). This was their daughter Mary. They are noted as living in Ro-Wen with Thomas noted as being a shoemaker. Their son John was similarly baptised in 1817 (I have his record too).
Son John was usually noted as being from Rowen or Caerhun on his subsequent census returns.
In 1841, Emma is found at Chapel Street, Tre Y Dre, Llanrwst, Denbighshire with Mary and John but no sign of Thomas, her husband. By 1851 Emma is in Scotland Street, Llanrwst, Denbighshire with her daughter Mary and presumably Mary's illegitimate daughter, Mary PRITCHARD. Emma is noted as a widow. She died at the same address in 1860 at the stated age of 88, noted as widow of Thomas WILLIAMS, shoemaker, with son John in attendance. She had at one time been a spinning woman.
Mary their daughter,never married as far as I can tell, dying about 1887 I believe in Llanrwst. Mary's daughter Mary Pritchard may have married John LLOYD about 1875 in Llanrwst
John, Emma and Thomas' son married before 1865, to whom I know not and then married Martha ELLIOTT of Daventry in 1865. He was a gardener and became the publican of the Telegraph Inn on the Orme as mentioned in other forum messages. I still am not sure of John's whereabouts in 1851 or the identity of his first wife.
ANY snippets of information gleaned would be MOST welcome as this has been a huge brick wall for me. I have found virtually nothing about Thomas and only what I have mentioned on Emma. Hugo has very kindly checked Caerhun marriages for Thomas and Emma previously but was unable to find anything that fitted. Since then, though I have more of an idea of age of Emma at least. Keeping my fingers crossed
hi folk
it's been a while since I looked at this forum. Hope you all are keeping well.
I'm still trying to track down Thomas WILLIAMS as above (husband of Emma EVANS) and father to Mary Bp 1812 Caerhun and John Bp 1817 Caerhun.
I am no nearer tracking Thomas' death records. As above the 1841 census for Emma in Llanrwst makes no comment re her status (married or widowed) but in 1851 Llanrwst she IS noted a widowed.
I do have a death certificate for a Thomas of Old Road Llandudno, Shoemaker who died 1857 aged 58 but I can't find this particular chap on any census or in any directory. My John WILLIAMS was living in Llanrwst in 1851 with his mother and sister and in 1860 was in Cwlach street, Llandudno when his mother died. When Thomas WILLIAMS was married he is noted to be of Llanrwst
I'm running out of lateral thinking power and wondered if there were any directories for before 1841 listing him
Any ideas/ help would be much appreciated. I haven't reposted any of the records I have but can if needed
Marriage to Emma EVANS (Llanrhychwyn)
Baptism of daughter Mary (Caerhun)
Baptism of son John (Caerhun)
1841 Census Emma and Family (Llanrwst)
1851 Cemsus Emma and Family (Emma noted as a widow) (Llanrwst)
Marriage of son John noting father as a shoemaker x 2 (Married twice) (1st marriage Llanrhychwyn, second marriage Daventry , northants) (John went on to live at the Old Telegraph Station with his second wife Martha)
Death of Emma noting thomas as a shoemaker (llanrwst)