This is a chat in the pub thread, so I'm going to be the pub bore and have a rant. Cold weather so I thought----sun. I need an India visa. Clever devil, me, I'm not going to pay £20 to an agent, I'll get in myself on the web. So, I downloaded the forms, paypalled the cash, sent passport,photos etc off by I think its called Special Delivery (it cost over £6) plus another self addressed special delivery envelope. It said allow ten working days. This was on November 2nd. By about 21st I was getting worried, no response. Phone up the agency of the Indian Government (they have outsoursed it to a firm in the UK). Cannot get a phone number nor email address. The office I used is in Hayes,Middlesex. (It had to be that one if you do it by post). There are about ten offices in U.K., non have a phone number except Glasgow. I rang that -- unable to connect you. I got on to Directory Enquiries, they gave me a number ---- something wrong with the line. B.T. wont say whats the matter, but I cannot get through. So on 22nd I send a recorded delivery off to them "What the hells going on." No reply, not a dicky bird. So, if nothing turns up tomorrow, on Tuesday I will be making a 500 mile round trip to stand in the queue in Hayes. Mike P.S. I did track the original letter --it was delivered at 07.30 on 3rd November. Royal Mail even gave me a photostat copy of the signature and printed name. As I said, clever devil, me. I saved £20 by doing it myself. No comment.