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Offline Hugo

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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2012, 11:37:38 am »
I've just spoken to a guy called Bob who knows everything about the history of Glanwydden and he confirmed that the terrace of cottages I photographed yesterday are the Ffolt Porth that you were looking for.
The door way in the hedge was where the local school was. It was opened on 9th July 1877 and was a one up one down affair with the infants downstairs and the rest upstairs.
Your relative Margaret would have gone to this school but at least she didn't have far to walk!

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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 10:13:36 am »
Pojo,   if your relative was the Margaret Griffiths in the 1881 Census, I have only just noticed something.
There were 4 people listed in the Census as living there:-  John Griffiths aged 64, his wife Margaret aged 60 and two children. Robert Thomas a grandson aged 9 and Margaret a granddaughter aged 5.
Your Margaret is the Granddaughter but there is no mention of her parents or of Robert Thomas' either which seems strange and I wonder what happened to them! 


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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2012, 01:12:43 pm »
I've had a look at the Census records again from 1841 through to 1891 and found out that it was No 4 Ffolt Cottage that Margaret lived at.    In the Census records Margaret's Grandparents had two daughters, May and her younger sister Anne.  As there were no sons from the Grandparents marriage then I presume that Margaret was the illegitimate daughter of one of those two girls.
In fact three Grandchildren lived there with the Grandparents, Margaret Griffiths, Robert Thomas and Elizabeth Griffiths.
John, Margaret's Grandfather lived in Fforddlas Llansanffraid Glan Conwy in the 1841 Census.    Also living there was John's father also called John and Ann his mother plus 4 sisters.

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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2012, 05:41:43 pm »
Pojo, the house on the left with the leaded windows is No 4 Ffolt Cottages.  This would have been the back entrance and the front overlooks the old Baptist Cemetery

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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 04:11:32 pm »
Pojo,  you now know that Margaret your Grandmother lived at No 4 Ffolt Cottages and there are photos of the cottage shown above.
I was in the Conwy Archives today and found out some more info for you.
The Baptism records for Llangystenin show that at No 719 your grandmother was Baptised on 7th Nov 1875.  Her parents names were only listed as Anne Griffiths which confirms what I had assumed previously that Margaret was illegitimate.
So your  G Grandmother is Anne Griffiths.
Your G G Grandfather John Griffiths died 18th April 1896 aged 76, your G G Grandmother died 19th June 1906 and they are buried at grave No 081 at Llangystennin Church.
Your G G G Grandfather John Griffiths died 21st July 1860 aged 79  and his wife your G G G Grandmother Ann Griffiths died 29th January 1868 aged 76.    They are buried at grave No 226 at Llansanffraid Church Glan Conwy

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Re: Looking for Ffolt Porth...
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2012, 02:09:33 pm »
Thank you so much for your help!  $good$

This really helps fill in the gaps as to who Margaret no.2 was!!
I've  been given my Nain's address book, which confirms that Margaret & Donald Shields did move to Yorkshire after living in various places in this area, they finally settled in Halifax & we have relatives in Sowerby Bridge!!