Natural and man-made disasters

[brumbob]

Ian, I am NOT being nasty or sarcastic here---but---did you pull all these most technical facts about the Japan disaster out of your head, your own knowledge, or did you read it up? No disgrace in either event, but, if you did already know all this, I think your talents are a bit wasted.  Mike

copy the text and search in google and you'll find 'Ian' must have posted this everywhere  L0L

[Trojan]

Ian, I am NOT being nasty or sarcastic here---but---did you pull all these most technical facts about the Japan disaster out of your head, your own knowledge, or did you read it up? No disgrace in either event, but, if you did already know all this, I think your talents are a bit wasted.  Mike

copy the text and search in google and you'll find 'Ian' must have posted this everywhere  L0L

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[Ian]

The information was collated from three sources.  Unfortunately, my PhD isn't in Nuclear Thermodynamics.

[brumbob]

Japanese emergency teams say they are 'not afraid to die' as they face dangerous levels of radiation in the fight to stop catastrophe at the tsunami-hit Fukushima nuclear plant.
The stricken power station was abandoned for hours today, as soaring radiation forced the emergency workers to flee for their lives and authorities were reduced to spraying reactors with police water cannons.
But 180 workers this afternoon bravely headed back towards the plant to pump water on to the over-heating reactors. Some experts speculated that they were on a 'suicide mission'.

What brave men there are in the world, prepared to risk their lives so that others can live safely  ££$
but it's worrying that Japanese officials were warned more than two years ago that the country's nuclear power plants could not withstand powerful earthquakes.

[Ian]

Seems that the media are trying to desperately to whip up hysteria over the Nuclear incidents in Japan, without much foundation:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/25/fukushima_scaremongering_debunk/

Even the Beeb has stopped wheeling out nuclear specialists as these were consistently saying that the Japanese incidents are actually far less dangerous than the media is claiming.

[Fester]

...Or maybe the ''experts'' are deliberately playing it down?  To avoid panicking the population?

Also because they won't have a job if the truth came out, and nuclear energy became scaled down?

Just a thought...

[Merddin Emrys]

These eco fanatics can't have it both ways, they moan about co2, nuclear power is excellent for lack of co2, so they also moan about nuclear power  :rage:  We have to have power from somewhere and there are risks with every source of power, Fusion will be great when they get it sorted, but in the meantime we all want electricity and no one seems keen on having a wind generator in view....

[Ian]

Or maybe the ''experts'' are deliberately playing it down?  To avoid panicking the population? Also because they won't have a job if the truth came out, and nuclear energy became scaled down?.

It seems to be the experts that are setting the agenda in terms of the hysteria in the first place, though, so I don't think that's the case. It seems that the subject is complicated and - when you examine the issue closely - there's little detailed evidence and research that shows the effects of differing amounts of exposure to radiation over periods of time.  The best we have is Chernobyl - and the research there has shown the dangers to be far less than people had expected.

I suspect that what's happening is that the real experts - those who have the access to detailed, post-Chernobyl and post-Hiroshima  research, and who would naturally be extremely cautious - are now emerging and trying to battle the media-fed hysteria to explain that things are nowhere near as bad as the papers would have us believe.

And we've seen this all before.  Bad and scary news sells papers and increases viewing figures.  Calmly delivered, factual news reporting doesn't.
 

[Fester]

See below, a ''mnor'' Earthquake in Blackpool in the early hours of today.

I was woken by one in Yorkshire about 3 years ago... lights and windows rattling, furniture shaking... but curiously I never found any cracks in the plaster.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12930915

[Nemesis]

I'm a bit skeptical about this---- You do know what date it is

[DaveR]

There have been quite a few in North Wales over the years. Nothing major, obviously, but they made themselves felt.

Info on UK Earthquakes here:
http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/recent_events/uk_special/alert_info_uk.htm

[Yorkie]

Now who can we blame for this one?

SEISMIC ALERT: BLACKPOOL, LANCASHIRE  1 APRIL 2011 02:34 UTC  2.2 ML

The following preliminary information is available for this earthquake:

DATE : 1 April 2011
ORIGIN TIME : 02:34 32.3s UTC
LAT/LON : 53.843° North / 2.990° West
GRID REF : 334.87 km/E / 439.01 km/N
DEPTH : 11.6 km
MAGNITUDE : 2.2 ML
LOCALITY : Blackpool, Lancashire
INTENSITY : 3 EMS

BGS have detected an earthquake at 02:34 UTC (03:34 BST) this morning (1 April 2011) located approximately 4 km northeast of Blackpool, Lancashire.  Several residents from Blackpool, Preston and surrounding areas have reported having felt this event, describing "some neighbours houses are showing lights as if they were woken up" and "heard a bang then felt a rumble".

[Fester]

Isn't it amazing how quickly massive stories vanish from the TV News.
Although it has disappeared from the top of the news, the Japanese tsunami is an incredible disaster still occuring.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13388370

Please take a look at this article,
They do not know where to start in clearing the immense amount of debris.

They have chosen a valley, overlooking the sea, to dump everything.  They thought it could accomodate a CENTURY'S worth of household waste.
But they have filled it in 6 weeks.
It is an ongoing nightmare.   It has also gone very quiet in regard to the Nuclear Power Plant that was spewing radiation.

How quickly we all forget and move on...

[dwsi]

Let's not forget the Dolgarrog Dam Disaster of 1925

http://www.melin-y-coed.co.uk/page14.htm

[Pendragon]

While were at it lest not forget Tryweryn  
Where did you get your avatar dwsi 'cosI luv it