Unemployment and Benefits

[Hugo]

I saw the headlines in one newspaper today and it was about a 20 year old girl who didn't like working as it was boring and she would have had to get up early for work!!!
She had turned down 11 jobs and was still getting £800.00 in benefits.
I just hope this Con/ Lib pact get their act together and make working compulsary for all able bodied people.  These people have got a right attitude and think that it is ok just to pick up benefits without having to work.
 :rage:          :rage:

[Ian]

D'you know which paper carried that story, Hugo? Despite Googling possible combinations, I haven't found anything, but I have found this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360046/European-human-rights-Rent-arrests-tenant-evicted-rules-judge.html

The DFM treads an extremely fine line between lying in its stories and reporting fact. They are manipulators of the worst kind.

In the story above, the clear implication is that - once again - the ECHR has stopped the UK from dealing with the indolent and the feckless. The lead paragraph states:

Evicting a woman from her council home for failing to pay rent would breach her human rights, judges ruled yesterday.

yet that's somewhat wide of the truth.  If we read the actual judgement, given at the foot of the article, two things become apparent.  The first was that the ruling was given because the council had not followed all the correct procedures for eviction, and not simply because it would infringe her human rights.

The second factor is that she could have applied for £15000 in housing benefit, but had completed the forums incorrectly, so didn't get it.

I'm certainly not saying it's right that we continue to support those who have no intention of supporting themselves, but we do face some tough choices, and particularly if the DFM's relentless campaign to get us out of the ECHR succeeds.

[DaveR]

There's a story in the Pioneer today about a loser who 'kicked off and became abusive' in Asda when he was refused service. This person, who is on incapacity benefit, went to Asda to 'buy more alcohol'.

My question would be....apart from a hard day's work, what is he incapable of doing? Just withdraw his benefit completely - a worthless waste of space.

[Ian]

These sorts of people are the very individuals who create chaos in Hospital A & E departments.  You have to wonder if it would be wiser to refuse all but the most basic treatment to someone who's drunk and abusive.

[Hugo]

Sorry but I can't remember the name of the paper Ian.  I was so mad at seeing it I didn't like to waste my time looking any further. It was the front page of a tabloid newspaper, it wasn't the Daily Mirror as I get that one but a similar coloured one. Don't think it was The Sun but may be The Star perhaps.
Sorry about that, I'll try and take more notice when I see headlines like that.

[Fester]

These sorts of people are the very individuals who create chaos in Hospital A & E departments.  You have to wonder if it would be wiser to refuse all but the most basic treatment to someone who's drunk and abusive.

They can be easily cured by a little piece of lead being administered into the left ear............... fired from a gun. 

[Trojan]

These sorts of people are the very individuals who create chaos in Hospital A & E departments.  You have to wonder if it would be wiser to refuse all but the most basic treatment to someone who's drunk and abusive.

They can be easily cured by a little piece of lead being administered into the left ear............... fired from a gun. 

Hmmm......I'm really begining to think you're E-Thug now! 

[Fester]

I'm not E-Thug.....but I think I might know who is....I'M OSCAR !!!!

Oh, no thats not right.....sorry........ I'M SPARTACUS !!!

[Hugo]

I watched an interesting TV programme on BBC this Tuesday. It was called "Neighbourhood Watched" and very briefly it was about two families who were living in Social Housing.
The two families were at the opposite end of the spectrum. The first family was a husband and wife who lived in a neat 3 bedroom house. They had worked all their life and brought up the children at the house but now now they were in their 80's and the wife was suffering from severe health problems so they needed to downsize. It had a happy ending because they were eventually rehoused in a one bedroomed flat in a good area.
The second family was typical of the Jeremy Kyle generation. An unmarried young woman with a number of children ( 3 I think    )    After being evicted from her last home, she made a false application an was rehoused in a very nice new terraced property.  They must have been the neighbours from hell because they were inviting friends around and having late night parties and playing loud music. They were even playing on a trampoline at 5.00am and using a megaphone to cause a disturbance.  It's typical of the mother's attitude because one of her infant sons was called ASBO!   and the mother and child were telling each other to F*** Off so that kid has got no chance whatsoever of having a decent upbringing.  After having many, many chances they were eventually evicted from that house.   I believe that the authorities have then got the responsibility to rehouse this family elsewhere to no doubt cause trouble in their latest accommodation.
It so frustrating that scum like that do not make any positive contribution to society during their lifetime yet think it is their human right to behave like they do and claim benefits while never intending to seek or obtain employment.    :rage:

[Fester]

Disgraceful.
You would hope that the evidence from that TV programme alone would be sufficient to begin the process of taking that poor child (Asbo?) into care...
Thus giving it just a slight chance.

Mass sterilisation is part of the answer. 

[born2run]

The people in that show, i.e the so called "Jeremy Kyle geneation", (nice by the way to class a whole generation after a two bit daytime tv show, watched by less than two million people) were obviously exploited and manipulated and they played up to the camera simply due to their ignorance. Better education and compassion is the answer, not putting children into care, sterilising people or any other half baked reactionary ideals.

Those people are impecunious, naive, angry and directionless. It is not our hatred they need but our help.
As educated and able members of society we should all be more than willing to give that instead of giving our scorn.

"Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. [Proverbs 16:18] "

[Merddin Emrys]

we've had 13 years of New Labour compassion and still they take the p**s so on balance I will agree with Fester's idea, it would save a fortune in the years ahead

[Fester]

Hey!!   Don't go quoting the Bible at me Born to Run!

I'll win that game everytime...

My favourite proverb is Austin 3:16  which says...   ''I just whooped your ass!''

[born2run]

Hey!!   Don't go quoting the Bible at me Born to Run!

I'll win that game everytime...

My favourite proverb is Austin 3:16  which says...   ''I just whooped your ass!''

I remember watching that at the time!

Stone Cold 3:16 Is Born

[Fester]

...And thats the bottom line.....................cos Stone Cold Says So !