Just been watching BBC buisness and they where in Devon,in a little town where the small retailers are thriveing,cake shops ,butchers etc etc not many shops empty,i think there are many local people who would love to have there own buisness but there is noway independants can afford the crazy rents,rates,etc so it will take Llandudno a few more empty shops before somebody actualy tries to do something.If these conglomerates where fined for having empty premises then maybe they would try a bit harder to fill the shops.I think the whole of Mostyn st has about 11 empty shops,Victoria center about 7 empty units,Mostyn Champneys has 1 empty unit so i suppose at the moment that ain;t to bad,but i have a feeling things are about to get a little worse.