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What should be done with Colwyn Bay Pier?

Demolish it
Carry out basic renovation (spend up to £5m)
Carry out comprehensive renovation, including all buildings (spend up to £10m)

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Offline Merddin Emrys

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #480 on: December 15, 2013, 08:40:09 pm »
It was no surprise to me at all, I still stick with my 'Village idiots' theory!  &shake&
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #481 on: December 15, 2013, 08:43:40 pm »
Very interesting, DaveR, thanks.

"As a ball park we would imagine maybe £250k budget for an LBC application, public inquiry, judicial review/appeals and perhaps another 2 years of uncertainty before a decision is resolved. And quite how, given the evidence of suitable alternatives and interests will the tests for demolition be met? The bar is very high and we don't think the Council has realised yet."

So, a long, drawn-out process (years) - even to get to a stage where demolition can be considered.

So much for the "argument" for demolition on the basis that it gets rid of "uncertainty", or that it's the quickest/easiest way to deal with the problem.


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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #482 on: December 16, 2013, 09:02:53 am »
The Council may now be in the position where they have to serve a Section 215 Notice upon themselves.  :laugh:

http://incompetencetoday.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/joy-of-section-215.html

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #483 on: December 16, 2013, 09:56:20 am »
Here's a new petition for overturning the demolition vote: www.change.org/petitions/conwy-borough-council-overturn-the-decision-to-knock-down-colwyn-bay-pier-and-restore-it

Several hundred signatures already.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #484 on: December 16, 2013, 10:06:29 am »
429 signatures already, that's a decent response.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #485 on: December 16, 2013, 10:25:36 am »
I've signed it already, saw it on Facebook! When the Council are dishing out the Section 215 notices I hope they remember the Pier Pavillion site!
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #486 on: December 17, 2013, 09:03:13 am »
I've had a look at the documents released by the council on the pier vote (cost estimates, etc). As a result, I've written this BLOG post:

'Town rejects council’s vote to demolish pier'
http://colwynbay.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/pier-demolition/

Please give it a read if you have the time. Thanks...

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #487 on: December 17, 2013, 09:19:03 am »
Excellent Blog Post, BMD.  $good$

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #488 on: December 17, 2013, 09:48:34 am »
Yes BMD very good, I think that having built the skip they do not want any possible competition from the pier, assuming the bistro ever happens that is!
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #489 on: December 17, 2013, 09:55:30 am »
Yes BMD very good, I think that having built the skip they do not want any possible competition from the pier, assuming the bistro ever happens that is!
I think you're right, ME.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #490 on: December 17, 2013, 10:01:35 am »
Was just having a chuckle at the Twitter account for Porth Eirias:
https://twitter.com/PorthEirias
...which hasn't been updated since the 8th October, btw.

According to the description:
"Colwyn Bay Watersports Centre incorporating a cafe, bisto, retail unit, learning zone, workshop and changing facilities."

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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« Reply #491 on: December 17, 2013, 01:01:51 pm »
Brilliant!  _))* a cafe and a Bisto, ideal! Probably more chance of the Bisto being in there than a bistro!  :laugh:
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #492 on: December 17, 2013, 02:01:10 pm »
Brilliant!  _))* a cafe and a Bisto, ideal! Probably more chance of the Bisto being in there than a bistro!  :laugh:

What?  You mean a lot of the BROWN stuff?  More than likely! _))*
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #493 on: December 17, 2013, 02:44:42 pm »
 $fan$ $fan$ $fan$. Already has in the council !  L0L
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #494 on: December 17, 2013, 10:53:52 pm »
The Council may now be in the position where they have to serve a Section 215 Notice upon themselves.  :laugh:

http://incompetencetoday.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/joy-of-section-215.html
But the Council can't serve a notice on themselves! If the court case goes in favour of Steve Hunt they could serve a notice on him!