Evan Jones b 1776 Llangystenin

[Micox]

Slightly off topic, in primary school (Lloyd Street) I'm sure I can remember some prejudice against other kids from Pydew - they were seen and treated as primitives from the wild. Does anyone else remember like attitudes? 

[Installer]

Hi Caroline I am assuming you have all of the tree from Evan/Elizabeth Jones through past Grainllyn and "the Lodge" through to the present day? I did sometime ago see your quest about Grainllyn but health problems kept me away. Sorry for being in code for everyone else but only a family member would have this knowledge. I haven't got any pre Evan/Elizabeth but I have got post Hugh/Mary Hughes as well

[squiggle]

Slightly off topic, in primary school (Lloyd Street) I'm sure I can remember some prejudice against other kids from Pydew - they were seen and treated as primitives from the wild. Does anyone else remember like attitudes?

I'd guess there is a time as well as place but in my sort of starting 67 Pydew, and John Bright first 2 years of secondary school - early 70s, I'd say, yes it existed. Those from the town (who even knew where Pydew was!) could see it as a sot of "Beverly Hilbilly" land. I don;t think anything too serious but I do remember a minor irritation from someone.

For an adult one. My father had a hell of of job getting the (employee rate...) mortgage out of them for Old Swan.  I don;t know why they felt him the one they wanted for CB but I do know it went as far as him threatening (which he would have done) resignation before they agreed.  Things are different now and Pydew is turned on its head in that way but in those days Pydew was not a desirable address for an Abbey National branch Manager.

[squiggle]

I was interested in this as it covers the area my relatives the Roberts' lived. The Tyn Yr Yrn is the address given on the marriage cert for Elias Roberts 1840. he was a labourer there. Thanks for posting the picture, I hadn't asked about this before so now I know where it is.

My vague memory and chat would have 5 Owens from there. 2  brothers and a sister who we thought stayed on at the farm.  May well have things wrong butt he other suggestions are.

Owen Owen.  Lived in Fault (I never can spell it), had a daughter Rhian who worked with my mother in Llandudno Hospital - not many years older than me.

Howell.  Lived in Pydew.  I can't remember the place but somewhere opposite side of the road of and before Maelgwyn.  From Skerryvore, Past Eithinog sort of way on the right.


I think they both (and probably all of that generation) are RIP

[Hugo]

The Owens did live at that farm and I've been there and taken photos of it but I've looked but can't find them unfortunately

Ffolt Cottages are adjoining the Baptist Cemetery at the end of Ffordd Wiga

I haven't heard of Howell but I bet my friend from Pydew would have known him as my friend was the one who advised me of the Owens living at the farm

[Hugo]

I've found the photos now,  The first 3 are of Tyn Y Rhyn  and the last 2 are of Ffolt Cottages

[Abbey10]

My family member Evan Jones is described as a farmer in the 1841 census living at Tan Rhyn Llangwstenin.
I'm wondering whether he would be a tenant of the Lloyd family/ or Mostyns etc or were there farmers who actually owned their own land and that time? I don't live locally and therefore can't get to the archives ( the staff there are v v helpful though and I don't want to push my luck) Can any forum members answer my query, better still does any one have a copy of any land ownership records?
I look forward to hearing from you
Regards
Carolyn.

Hi All
I am new to this and helping my friend Rhian Williams as at present she is having difficulty in registering in the Forum.
She would like to post that her father Owen Owen lived at Tyn Rhyn Llangwistenin from the early 1900's and was one of 4 brothers Richard, Howell and Thomas and 4 sisters Alma, Catherine, May and Hannah.  All of the above are deceased.  The property was owned by the Owen family and not Mostyn Estates until sold in the 90's.
Hope this helps you and if you have any further queries can you respond to Abbey10 until I can join.