Hugo, my friend, I dont want you having an accident. Im not sure ( without looking at a street map) whereabouts you started from but I "think" you are somewhere up Kings Road in Colwyn Bay. If so, and no doubt you already know this--but just in case you dont--all that area up towards Colwyn Heights has a remarkedly different weather pattern to down in West End. Ive known the heights cut off by snow on Kings Road and positively warm sunny conditions at the bottom Mike