Crime and criminals

[Yorkie]

A wise and much appreciated move, thanks.   He may be back in another guise so watch out!

[Fester]

Damn, I was hoping you would let him carry on.... give him enough rope and all that...

[snowcap]

he will be missed,   like tooth ache

[Yorkie]

I've removed and hived off the remaining posts in this topic by Pentan.  I'm also instituting a ban Pentan as a consequence of infringement of forum regs and general attitude.

You'll be accused of censorship next!   L0L

[Nemesis]

Thankyou Ian-- He was making himself as bad as the accused.

[Hugo]

I was reading in the Daily Mirror yesterday about a shameless father of 12 who finally got an ASBO after his legal challenge failed when he was arrested for pouring  a carton of juice over his partner's head outside Court.
This 41 year old has never worked and subjected his neighbours to a campaign of drunken behaviour and parties.
The two year order bans him from using abusive language and being drunk in Burnley but not in Nelson where the family moved for a "fresh start"

People can have as many children as they want but I wonder if this Parasite would have had so many if the State didn't fund each child? Perhaps he would have had to find a job if that was the case?

[Yorkie]

Of course the money he gets all goes to fund his drinking, so what is the point of an allowance for even one child?  Just reduce the level of tax for the first two children if people work.  This would save a fortune in administering the benefits.   And only give benefit for the first two children if they don't work.

[Hugo]

Well said Yorkie and I'll drink to that.        Z**

[Ian]

Child benefit is something of an anachronism. I remember being (pleasantly) surprised when we had our first, to find the government were actually paying us for our kids. But I doubt there's any real place for it, now; and it's still something of an unwelcome burden on childless couples and individuals.

[DaveR]

Cllr Bob Squire says bedsits are attracting sex offenders in Colwyn Bay

Dec 13 2012 North Wales Weekly News

CHILDREN and young people in Colwyn Bay are at risk due to the number of sex offenders being attracted by cheap bedsit accommodation says a concerned councillor.

Following father and son, Barry Ford, 64, and Craig McKellar, 31, of Colwyn Bay being sentenced to 18 and 10 years, for rape and a sexual offences this week, Cllr Bob Squire has warned the town’s large number of bedsits and flats owned by absentee landlords is attracting more undesirables.

A year ago a Weekly News investigation revealed there were more convicted sex offenders living in Conwy than any other county in North Wales - 136 of 528 (at that time).

Now Cllr Bob Squire says not enough is being done to stop an inpouring of drifters bringing their own social problems to the area as large Victorian homes are being let out as houses of multiple occupation (HMOs).

The housing issue in Colwyn Bay is being addressed by a council-led Welsh Government funded Masterplan which is supposed also look at the social-economic elements, but Cllr Squire says it’s time to get ride of potentially problematic properties.

Referring to the latest conviction Cllr Squire said more needed to be done in Colwyn Bay, and that Conwy needed to tackle the problem with policies.

“I’m not at all surprised by this, a case like this was always going to happen,” he said.

“I’ve been saying it for 10 years about the number of undesirables coming into the area.

“I’ve proved that we’ve got numerous sex offenders, the police admitted to me some time ago – I’ve seen figures of the number of sex offenders we’ve got coming in.

“They are coming in because of the number of flats and bedsits, we’ve got thousands of bedsits in Conwy and a lot in the Colwyn Bay area.

“Because of the type of accommodation available, there are agents acting for absentee landlords who will take anybody just to get the income in- and that includes people from prison and sex offenders. And it is going to get worse because of the housing benefit changes they will be moving here even more.

He added; “I’m heartedly fed up of trying to address the problem- nobody is doing anything about it. All it needs is policy of removal of a couple of properties of HMOs.”

“The Welsh Government has already allocated finance, and has said regeneration in Colwyn Bay must include housing removal by getting rid of a number of HMOs and it never happened. I think we were failed by the consultants who came in as a whole, that is my opinion.

“I’m worried a about children and young people as a grandfather of nine and six of them are in this area. There are a lot of sex offenders who have come to the area, a disproportionate amount. A case like this was always going to happen.”

Conwy County Council declined to comment on the matter.

North Wales Police had not responded by the time the Weekly News went to press.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/12/13/cllr-bob-squire-says-bedsits-are-attracting-sex-offenders-in-colwyn-bay-55243-32415123/

[Yorkie]

Cllr Bob Squire seems to be tarring a lot of people with the same brush with absolutely no proof that people coming to the area are, or ever have been sex or other offenders.  Who does he consider is an undesirable, or not wanted in the area.  Sweeping statements such as he has made are detrimental to ever getting a balanced and integrated society.  Does he not consider that some past offenders have reformed?   Perhaps he would be better  sorting out more action to rehabilitate than condemn these people, rather than spreading scare stories to the rest of the community.

Get off you're high horse Squire and do some real work for the local people.   WWW

[DaveR]

Has he upset you in the past, Yorkie? In my experience, he;s one of the hardest working and most respected Councillors. 

[Yorkie]

Has he upset you in the past, Yorkie? In my experience, he;s one of the hardest working and most respected Councillors. 

He may be hard working but is he directing his efforts in the best way?

My comment was based purely on the quotation posted by you from the NWWN.   No doubt he does good in other areas of concern.  Never met the bloke but we did both work for the same company! 

[DaveR]

Has he upset you in the past, Yorkie? In my experience, he;s one of the hardest working and most respected Councillors. 

He may be hard working but is he directing his efforts in the best way?

My comment was based purely on the quotation posted by you from the NWWN.   No doubt he does good in other areas of concern.  Never met the bloke but we did both work for the same company! 

I think he's absolutely right. Colwyn Bay may be having millions spent on it for physical regeneration, but it will never be a success until the social problems caused by importing large numbers of problem people from other parts of the UK are tackled.

[Yorkie]

Has he upset you in the past, Yorkie? In my experience, he;s one of the hardest working and most respected Councillors. 

He may be hard working but is he directing his efforts in the best way?

My comment was based purely on the quotation posted by you from the NWWN.   No doubt he does good in other areas of concern.  Never met the bloke but we did both work for the same company! 

I think he's absolutely right. Colwyn Bay may be having millions spent on it for physical regeneration, but it will never be a success until the social problems caused by importing large numbers of problem people from other parts of the UK are tackled.

And, of course, you know that they are being "imported", if so that's the, Council's own fault.   And  I presume you also have proof that these large numbers (exactly how many?) are "problem" people? 

Give us some facts and figures to substantiate these matters.