Crime and criminals

[DaveR]

Perhaps you don't know as many people as me, Yorkie?  I know you certainly don't travel in the local area as widely as I do.

I think you have both points incorrect there!   The number of local people I am aquainted with in the three towns area is quite exhaustive, not just those who are here now but those who have moved away!  I also have travelled, and still do travel, locally and over the whole of North Wales, on a very regular basis.  I have also lived locally for 25 years so am not exactly a new boy on the block!  I do not have impaired hearing and I still cannot recognise anything resembling a local accent.  Pop a video on the Forum with someone using the local accent, then I shall be suitably enlightened. WWW

Ah, when I say 'local area', I'm thinking of North Wales really. Go out of the coastal belt and visit, say, Bangor, Caernarfon or Llanrwst and you'll soon hear local accents. 

[Yorkie]

Ah, when I say 'local area', I'm thinking of North Wales really. Go out of the coastal belt and visit, say, Bangor, Caernarfon or Llanrwst and you'll soon hear local accents. 

I'm also thinking of North Wales and as far as the others are concerned they are only local to their respective areas, n'est ce pas?  Bit like an English accent being anything between a Cornish-man and someone from Suffolk or Newcastle!

Been all round the coast (including Anglesey) and almost the whole of the rest of the UK, so not lost for doing to odd bit of listening to regional accents.   

[born2run]

Ah, when I say 'local area', I'm thinking of North Wales really. Go out of the coastal belt and visit, say, Bangor, Caernarfon or Llanrwst and you'll soon hear local accents. 

I'm also thinking of North Wales and as far as the others are concerned they are only local to their respective areas, n'est ce pas?  Bit like an English accent being anything between a Cornish-man and someone from Suffolk or Newcastle!

Been all round the coast (including Anglesey) and almost the whole of the rest of the UK, so not lost for doing to odd bit of listening to regional accents.   

I can tell,generally, the difference between Llanduno, Conwy & Colwyn Bay accents. I notice the subtle differences. Impossible to describe in text though. However - the Conwy & Pen accent is quite similar as is the Colwyn Bay/Rhyl accent.

[Ian]

Immigration has diluted any local accents in the coastal fringe, but once past Glan Conwy then very pronounced accents emerge. Quite a strong difference between Betws and Bangor, for instance.

[Yorkie]

I found Scotland quite interesting when I lived just outside of Glasgow.  There is a distinct difference between East and West Coast accents, and then other subtle differences from North to South with the softest and most perfect enunciation coming from the people in Inverness.   Glasgow is quite guttural but Edinburgh is much softer and lacks the harshness of the Glaswegians.  Fortunately, or not depending on how you look at it, I am able to understand every word of the Rab C. Nesbitt TV series!
  

[Ludo]

Scumbags are rife, and they just need sorting out, I think the vast majority are agreed on that.

A cautionary tale about what happens when people think they know better than centuries of civilised law making:

http://youtu.be/KOUdakrP52E

...I'm the bad guy?
http://youtu.be/iBy4X2rjF-k

[Kowalski]

As Scumbags are rife and everybody knows this I thought I'd look for evidence on this thread.

I found 20 separate incidents (including 7 pages about the London riots) caused by scumbags, 14 of which happened in north Wales. Considering that this thread has been here for more than a year we live in a society where "scumbags are rife" it's amazing that people only found 20 incidents.

A country of 60 million > 20 incidents in a year > "scumbags are rife". I don't see the logic.

[Fester]

You chose a somewhat narrow basis for your research Kowalski.

I could post numerous examples everyday on this thread, but no one gives a damn.
I have also posted examples on other threads, such as 'outrageous behaviour'

As Dave R says, I encounter scumbags every day of my life, including just last weekend, when a drunken idiot wanted to pick a fight with me, in front of his daughter!  The poor kid....
I'm sick of it, and they need sorting out.

Instead, I me that gets reported and questioned for sorting them out myself, when they only had themselves to blame.

I shouldn't have to concern myself with their like.
I'm an old man, just trying to run a little business...

[Ludo]

You chose a somewhat narrow basis for your research Kowalski.

I could post numerous examples everyday on this thread, but no one gives a damn.
I have also posted examples on other threads, such as 'outrageous behaviour'

As Dave R says, I encounter scumbags every day of my life, including just last weekend, when a drunken idiot wanted to pick a fight with me, in front of his daughter!  The poor kid....
I'm sick of it, and they need sorting out.

Instead, I me that gets reported and questioned for sorting them out myself, when they only had themselves to blame.

I shouldn't have to concern myself with their like.
I'm an old man, just trying to run a little business...

Hmm, but they do say that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, do they not...

[Fester]

Good point Ludo, and good spot.....but I would counter that by saying that I am not the one seeking to instigate violence.
I am just put in a position where I have little choice but to resort to it more and more these days.

By the way Ludo, I am becoming quite aware that you seem to be developing an obsession with what I say, and also my business.

I have no interest in your tales of double-decker buses, etc... so perhaps you could confine yourself to those subjects, or maybe your own business?

[Ludo]

Good point Ludo, and good spot.....but I would counter that by saying that I am not the one seeking to instigate violence.
I am just put in a position where I have little choice but to resort to it more and more these days.

Same situation with Buzz Aldrin actually - Bart Sibrel was aggressively abusive and obstructed Buzz and his daughter from getting to their car. Is it a case of one rule for Fester and another rule for everyone else then?. As for my interest in what you are saying, yes - if someone calls what I write 'crap' I am naturally interested to find out what position they are coming from.

Your last post in this thread and a few others seem to be bringing me closer to discovering your position.

[Fester]

Ludo, I have stated my position on this from the outset, and not changed it.
That being , due to the very long list of anomalies and doubts, I am 60% convinced that the Apollo Moon landings were faked.

Therefore, I am unable to vote in the poll that exists on this thread, as I am not CERTAIN either way.

Remember, that is not the actual poll I requested that the moderators set up, therefore the result is interesting, but not very conclusive.

Oh, and by the way, I do regret dropping that remark in about Buzz Aldrin, it was meant in fun.
In actual fact, if I were him, I would have chinned that CHUFF as well.

By the way, I have just realised that we are on the wrong thread now....

[Ludo]

Oh, and by the way, I do regret dropping that remark in about Buzz Aldrin, it was meant in fun. In actual fact, if I were him, I would have chinned that chuff as well.

Its easy now say it was only a joke - that was certainly not what it seemed like at the time. In the context of that discussion, I felt YOU were being serious in suggesting that the man who made possible the orbital mechanics of the Apollo missions and every other space mission involving orbital rendezvous before and since (eg the building of the ISS) was a yob. The reality of the situation would seem to suggest the complete opposite.

Any online social media resource including forums such as this one, does not automatically entitle the participants to abnegate responsibility for what they write. Perhaps you are confusing the 21st century concept of a 'Forum' with a personal 'Blog'.

(I don't think this is in the wrong thread)

[Ludo]

Ludo, I have stated my position on this from the outset, and not changed it. That being, due to the very long list of anomalies and doubts, I am 60% convinced that the Apollo Moon landings were faked.

I was not referring to your 'position' on the subject of the lunar landings. I think it is perfectly clear to everyone where you stand on this issue, and as you say you have 'an answer for everything'. Again, it is worse than nonsense to 'discuss' it with you. No, I was referring to the intellectual rationale which led you to the conclusion that my suggestion of research into the green weed problem on the north shore was 'crap'. I have discovered since that there is no rationale, only block headed arrogance - and that is always pointless to try and engage with, except perhaps with a sense of humour.

[Yorkie]

Its easy now say it was only a joke - that was certainly not what it seemed like at the time. In the context of that discussion, I felt YOU were being serious in suggesting that the man who made possible the orbital mechanics of the Apollo missions and every other space mission involving orbital rendezvous before and since (eg the building of the ISS) was a yob.

In defence of Fester, I would suggest that we should all realise that the written word fails to give the correct impression as to intention, as it lacks the other small matters of body language, facial expression or tone of voice that one gets with the spoken word.  Consequently ones interpretation can often be incorrectly made, and misunderstanding can, and do, occur.

I too write in a somewhat direct manner and have a similar problem of occasional misunderstanding by the reader to some posts.

I trust you will interpret this post in the manner in which it is written!