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« Reply #930 on: October 21, 2019, 04:23:55 pm »
That's such a sad story to read and incomprehensible to understand what possesses a person to think along those lines.      Forget about PC and the do gooders the person should be locket up indefinitely for not only his own sake but more importantly for the safety of others

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« Reply #931 on: October 21, 2019, 05:18:11 pm »
That's such a sad story to read and incomprehensible to understand what possesses a person to think along those lines.      Forget about PC and the do gooders the person should be locket up indefinitely for not only his own sake but more importantly for the safety of others

If what he said to the Police is accurately represented then it would appear he's suffering from a severe mental illness. It certainly doesn't qualify as 'normal' behaviour in any sense of the word. He probably would need to be committed.

In terms of locking him up indefinitely, a lot would depend on whether he can be cured. This is not about 'do-gooders' or PC; it's all about how society treats people with severe mental illnesses.

Mental illness is one of the most diabolical illnesses you can imagine.  A lot of people succumb, particularly adolescent girls, although attempting murder just to see what it feels like is the most severe. He will go away for along time.

But our record on prisons and prisoners isn't great; we incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than any other country in Europe. Now, either the UK is full of very bad criminals or there's something essentially wrong with the current justice system.
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« Reply #932 on: October 21, 2019, 06:52:23 pm »
"Mental illness is one of the most diabolical illnesses you can imagine.  A lot of people succumb, particularly adolescent girls, although attempting murder just to see what it feels like is the most severe. He will go away for along time.

But our record on prisons and prisoners isn't great; we incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than any other country in Europe. Now, either the UK is full of very bad criminals or there's something essentially wrong with the current justice system."

I agree with your comments shown above Ian and that various Governments have let a number of people down but until there is proper reform in the system the majority of law abiding people should be protected from random attacks like this.    At present the only way to protect the population is to keep these people off the streets and so prevent them from doing the same thing again.
I have no confidence in the Parole Boards in the light of numerous mistakes they have made but cannot suggest an alternative other than to keep the offenders away from the general public.     A crime is a crime whether it is committed by someone with a mental illness or not



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« Reply #933 on: October 23, 2019, 09:58:25 am »
More on the above story.

Eirias High School: 'Psychopathic' school boy lied to police about 'killing someone' fantasy.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17987228.eirias-high-school-psychopathic-school-boy-lied-police-killing-someone-fantasy/

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« Reply #934 on: October 25, 2019, 10:39:06 am »
A SCHOOLBOY with a morbid fascination to kill has been convicted of attempting to murder a fellow pupil in a school corridor.

Following the verdict it was revealed that he had thoughts of killing a member of his own family but the jury had not been told of that during the trial.

The jury at Mold Crown Court retired for 48 minutes today and unanimously convicted him.

Judge Rhys Rowlands remanded him in custody pending sentence but warned him that he faced a significant custodial sentence.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17991215.ysgol-eirias-school-boy-found-guilty-attempting-murder-fellow-pupil-corridor/

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« Reply #935 on: October 25, 2019, 11:33:44 am »
There's something seriously wrong in his background, I suspect.
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

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« Reply #936 on: November 11, 2019, 03:42:11 pm »
STAFF and volunteers at St David’s Hospice have been left shocked and upset after thieves targeted the charity.

Properties in Mochdre, that help raise money for end of life care in north West Wales, were victim to costly damage during two overnight break-ins the space of three days. The charity’s Donation Centre on Quinton Hazel Enterprise Park was targeted overnight on Thursday November 7 followed by the Reuse Shop at The Household Recycling Centre in Mochdre on the evening of Sunday 10. Staff at the Donation Centre, which acts as the main drop off point for the St David’s Hospice shops, discovered an attempted break in on Friday morning which was unsuccessful but caused damage to doors and windows. In the second break in at the Reuse Shop they gained entrance.

Jamie Parks, Hospice Warehouse Manager, said: “We’re shocked and disappointed thieves would target us and attempt to take money and stock that should have gone to the charity. Members of our retail team discovered the break ins when they went to open up the following day. At the Reuse Shop the opportunist broke the window at the front of the building, damage display cabinets, rifled through drawers, broke the cash register and stole the £50 float. They then tried to take a bike which they got stuck on the fencing. The police are now involved and we have had to close the Reuse Shop to allow for an investigation to take place meaning we lose a day’s business.

“It has obviously had an impact on our team, who are all very dedicated to supporting the Hospice.”               ref Pioneer
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« Reply #937 on: November 11, 2019, 04:03:42 pm »
That's absolutely disgusting

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« Reply #938 on: November 11, 2019, 06:13:53 pm »
That's absolutely disgusting

Couldn't agree more.
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« Reply #939 on: September 20, 2021, 02:49:24 pm »
There are a couple of programmes about the North Wales Police on TV this week.        Tonight at 8.00 pm on ITV is Beyond the Line and it's the first of a four parter going behind the scenes with the officers of the North Wales Roads Policing Unit
The second one is on tomorrow (Tuesday) night on Channel 5 at 10.00 pm and is called Officers under attack and is the last of a five parter
This one shows how a desperate gang of suspected burglars try to smash a Police car with bricks as they attempt to escape capture

It's frightening to think that these people are living among us and quite often annoying to see soft sentences being handed out by the courts

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« Reply #940 on: May 05, 2022, 09:59:22 am »
'Justice awaits' message on bench latest twist in mystery of missing North Wales woman
Trevaline Evans left her antiques shop in Llangollen in 1990 and hasn't been seen since but theories about what happened to her have been in constant circulation


There will be an episode of " In the footsteps of killers"  on Channel 4 in the future which investigates unsolved cold cases and may star Amilia Fox.     I remember seeing crimewatch many years ago about the missing lady but the crime still remains a mystery so it should be interesting to watch.     The North Wales Police Force should come under some scrutiny judging by this article

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/justice-awaits-message-bench-latest-23862889

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« Reply #941 on: June 07, 2022, 03:42:11 pm »
I would never go on a bike nowadays as the roads are so dangerous but I know a number of people who do enjoy cycling on the road.    Thankfully none of the people I know have been involved in a traffic accident.
 Unlike Maj O'Reilly who was the victim of a hit and run driver who left him dead   
 Maj O'Reilly had suffered a broken back, pelvis and leg and underwent 22 hours of surgery in the first two days of treatment.    The uninsured driver was given just 12 weeks in jail for this act and will probably serve less that that.   His Solicitor is appealing against the 12 week jail sentence     :o

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ex-army-major-left-dead-24158668

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« Reply #942 on: August 09, 2022, 09:16:26 am »
The Morons of the week award must go to these
Louts 'steal, urinate on and burn' donations left outside Llandudno RSPCA store
North Wales Police have increased patrols in the area after an increase in anti-social behaviour outside the shop in Craig-y-Don

In this latest incident the Police must be able to solve this crime as there are enough CCTV cameras about and the morons have also left their calling cards

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/louts-steal-urinate-burn-donations-24704831

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« Reply #943 on: August 11, 2022, 09:09:36 am »
Another candidate for the Moron of the week award?

'Automatic fire-starting device' at tinder-dry beauty spot left by 'brain-dead idiots'
The suspected device has been reported to the authorities but its exact purpose remains unclear



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/automatic-fire-starting-device-tinder-24725218

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« Reply #944 on: October 18, 2022, 09:46:23 am »
I heard about drugs being found on a NW beach, but the total amount is a bit of a shocker.......

Huge cocaine haul found on Welsh beach was worth ?42m, police confirm
More than a tonne of the illegal substance was found in bags by a dog walker

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/huge-cocaine-haul-found-welsh-25282280