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Offline Ian

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« Reply #375 on: September 04, 2012, 05:26:13 pm »
 More likely he's saying he's moderated himself - perhaps because of what he was considering posting :-))
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« Reply #376 on: September 04, 2012, 06:54:53 pm »
More likely he's saying he's moderated himself - perhaps because of what he was considering posting :-))

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« Reply #377 on: September 05, 2012, 09:12:39 am »
Back to the topic of scum...here's a very good example:

A HUSBAND has told how his family have been left devastated by the actions of a “ruthless” hit and run driver who abandoned his wife to die on a country road.

Michael James Lundstram was jailed for eight months at Caernarfon crown court today and banned from driving for two and half years for killing Dwygyfylchi cyclist and mother-five Susan Griffiths.

The 29-year-old of Cwm Place struck Mrs Griffiths near her home, while she was cycling to work in an early morning crash last December.

Lundstram, who was driving while uninsured, instead of helping the 47-year-old mum or calling for help, fled the scene to hide in some bushes.


In a victim impact statement read to the court, her husband Arwyn Griffiths said: “We are absolutely devastated by our loss. We will feel the pain ( of Susan’s death) for many years to come.

“I can’t fathom why any human being could drive away from the scene of such a ruthless crime.

“My son, daughters and grandchildren will miss her so much.”

Ian Evans, prosecuting, said Lundstram had been playing snooker and poker all through the night before and into the early hours of the morning of the crash.

“At 5.30am on December 9 he collided with a pedal cycle. Susan Griffiths was thrown from the bike and landed in the carriageway.

“The defendant didn’t stop to see if she was OK, or call the emergency services. Instead he fled the scene and went up to the mountain where he hid in some bushes.”

Mrs Griffiths lay on the road with serious head and facial injuries for 15 minutes until she was spotted by a passing motorist.


“Mrs Griffiths was still alive at this point,” Mr Evans added.

The motorist, a nurse, raised the alarm and another nurse in the village also went to Mrs Griffiths aid as they waited for emergency services to arrive.

Paramedics performed emergency first aid at the scene before she was taken by ambulance to Ysbyty Gwynedd, Bangor, where she later died.

Mr Evans told the court that Lundstram was previously banned from driving in 2009 and that he had no insurance at the time of the offence.

Peter Moss, defending, said Lundstram had plead guilty at the earliest opportunity and was “remorseful” and “contrite”.

“This will haunt him for the rest of his life,” Mr Moss added.

He said his client had fled the scene out of “panic at the gravity of the situation” and was unaware that he had no insurance as he had left it to his wife to organise.

Mr Moss urged the court not to jail the defendant but impose a community sentence and curfew order, describing the father-of-two as “well respected” in the community.

“He is terrified at the prospect of an immediate custodial sentence.”

But Judge Niclas Parry jailed him for eight months for causing death of Susan Griffiths while driving the uninsured car. He was also disqualified for two and a half years for failing to stop at the scene of an accident and having two defective tyres on the Mondeo.

Judge Parry said Lundstram had taken a “cavalier” attitude to his insurance status but that “paled into insignificance” compared to his subsequent actions.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/09/04/north-wales-man-jailed-for-eight-months-over-hit-and-run-death-55578-31764728/

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« Reply #378 on: September 05, 2012, 10:30:31 am »
I saw that on TV last night and couldn't believe it.      I take it that it was a manslaughter charge, because that is what happened and thought that they had introduced new laws so that the sentencing was more severe for this type of thing, the driving ban was a joke too.

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« Reply #379 on: September 05, 2012, 09:38:24 pm »
I must admit that if you look for scumbags you do find them.....

"Australian mining magnate Gina Rinehart has criticised her country's economic performance and said Africans willing to work for $2 a day should be an inspiration.

Ms Rinehart is said to make nearly A$600 (£393) a second, and her views have been dismissed by Prime Minister Julia Gillard."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19487985

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« Reply #380 on: September 08, 2012, 02:45:04 pm »
She said that Australians smoked and drank too much but made no comment about Australians eating too much, I wonder why?   &shake&
Perhaps she's been eating off the fat of the land for too long and it's affected her in more ways than one.

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« Reply #381 on: September 09, 2012, 09:47:33 pm »
Ha ha.... Hugo. thats hilarious.....  L0L

What a self-righteous pile of #### she made herself look! 
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« Reply #382 on: September 12, 2012, 07:36:05 pm »
I watched the Hillsborough enquiry today while I was in work.......I've had a rant on Oscars and facebook so I'll keep this short.  It just goes to show that doggid persistence pays off in the end, the sheer determination of the family's who lost loved ones and the Liverpool fans who tirelessly campaigned for 23 years is the reason the truth was outed today.  I find it utterly deplorable that 164 police officers "significantly altered their statements" to cover their own asses and those of their senior officers namely David Duckenfield.  I don't know how Kelvin Macenzie can hold his head up.  It's all well and good giving "profuse apologies" now 23 years later, now those involved can not hide.  It also goes to show that when you have the Police, politicians and the media in cahoots anything can be brushed under the carpet, but the truth will out even if it does take 23 years.  Will duckenfield face charges of death by negligence? Will the 164 police officers be charged with perverting the course of justice...........bet my life they don't.  On the news they made excuses saying that some officers of 1989 would no longer be serving........and?........that's no reason not to charge them.  If this has been covered up just imagine the miscarriages of justice these kind of police tactics are responsible for.......makes me feel sick!!

There's a lot to be said for the power of the people and we should remember that.  I don't think we've heard the end of this.  The family's have come this far now let's see those responsible for this cover up held accountable.  $good$
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« Reply #383 on: September 12, 2012, 09:26:05 pm »
Today's evidence yet again proves just what a horrible decade the 1980s were. Government Dirty Tricks, Cover Ups, Yuppies, Reinvigorated Cold War

The trouble was that at the time of Hillsborough, not enough people wanted to hear the truth. Too many people went along with the right wing press' version of events. Too many people believed that football fans were scumbags, too many people believed that Scousers were scumbags.

Unfortunately a quick scan of twitter will show that the truth still doesn't matter to some people. Some people still think Scouse scumbags were to blame.

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« Reply #384 on: September 12, 2012, 10:24:34 pm »
Kowalski some people wouldn't believe the truth if it jumped up and smacked them in the mouth.  I don't think that dirty tricks, cover ups and corruption are a thing of the 80s I think it's just as bad now.  With the banking scenarios, corruption and back handers left right and centre. It just seems to be a case of making money now.  I mean what was the outcome of the Leveson enquiry?  Was anyone accountable?  It's all about diversion tactics now and the media is the machine that promotes it.
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« Reply #385 on: September 15, 2012, 08:16:31 pm »
I was in Colwyn Bay today, about 12.30pm, walking along Conwy Road just by the Glass Lounge. There were two men and a woman (all early 20s) shouting abuse across the road at a woman leaning out of the window in a second floor flat. There was the usual swearing and threats of violence going back and forth. Dare I mention that they all had Manchester accents? I realise it doesn't fit in with some people's fantasy land view of reality but it certainly happened and I've seen similar incidents many times in both Colwyn Bay & Rhyl.  &shake&

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« Reply #386 on: September 15, 2012, 08:19:58 pm »
This was in the Daily Post today:

A GANG of masked raiders struck at a funeral director, B&B, and two shops in a “campaign of burglary”.

The team of criminals travelled from Liverpool to commit offences in North Wales.

They first struck at a guest house in Betws-y-Coed in the early hours of the morning – but fled when the occupants were disturbed.

Mold Crown Court heard how they then struck at Trefnant Stores near Denbigh but failed to get in.

There then followed a burglary at a local funeral director’s premises at Trefnant and an attempted burglary at The Old Post Office in Northop Hall.

The spree came to an end when police were alerted and two of the gang were arrested at Northop.

Yesterday Paul Corness, 26, of no fixed abode but who comes from Liverpool and Joseph Nolan, 21, of Warren House Road in Kirkby, were each jailed for two and a half years.

Both pleaded guilty to attempted burglary at Oakfield Bed and Breakfast in Betws-y-Coed on February 6.

Nolan admitted attempted burglary at Trefnant Stores near Denbigh, burglary at Morris and Son funeral directors at Trefnant and allowing himself to be carried in a stolen Audi car.

He and Corness pleaded guilty to attempted burglary at the Old Post Office in Northop Hall.

Judge Philip Hughes said the picture that emerged was that the two of them were part of a team which travelled a considerable distance from Merseyside in a stolen car to carry out “a campaign of burglary”.

They equipped themselves with dark clothing, masks or hoods and one of them team was carrying a crowbar.

Three men had been confronted at the premises in Betws-y-Coed which left the occupants terrified.

Later that morning, an attempt was made to get into Trefnant Stores when £550 worth of damage was caused but no entry was made.

Corness’ DNA was found at the Betws-y-Coed B&B and Nolan’s footwear was matched to the scene at Betws-y-Coed and at the funeral directors.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/09/15/masked-raiders-on-burglary-spree-in-north-wales-55578-31837626/

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« Reply #387 on: September 15, 2012, 08:56:07 pm »
I was in Colwyn Bay today, about 12.30pm, walking along Conwy Road just by the Glass Lounge. There were two men and a woman (all early 20s) shouting abuse across the road at a woman leaning out of the window in a second floor flat. There was the usual swearing and threats of violence going back and forth. Dare I mention that they all had Manchester accents? I realise it doesn't fit in with some people's fantasy land view of reality but it certainly happened and I've seen similar incidents many times in both Colwyn Bay & Rhyl.  &shake&

People shouting across the street!!  :o :o :o

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« Reply #388 on: September 15, 2012, 09:03:11 pm »
You obviously didn't read the post properly. They were behaving very aggressively, the woman on the street said 'I'm going to f***cking smack her in a minute". You might think that sort of behaviour is acceptable but people who have been brought up properly certainly don't.  &shake&

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« Reply #389 on: September 15, 2012, 09:45:38 pm »
Which affected you in no way whatsoever. They weren't shouting at you were they? However If you're ever brave enough to venture out to Colwyn Bay again, I hope those nasty Mancunians have all been locked up and they're committing their unacceptable behavior far away from people who have been "brought up properly"