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Title: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Something that I have witnessed about 3 times recently, which I thought I would never see in Llandudno.

Whilst using the mens toilets as men do (in 3 different locations),  the toilets have been invaded by either drunken, or simply anti-social and uncaring WOMEN.  They proceed to use the mens loo in full view of those around.
They claim that they are 'bursting' or the queue is too long in the ladies.

I have seen this in a local pub, a night club, and now most recently on the pier, in broad daylight in the presence of kids and pensioners.  No excuse for it whatsoever.

Now, think about this, this yobbish behaviour by women might raise an eyebrow, or even draw contempt.... but I can't help thinking that if I did this, not only would I be arrested and convicted of several offences, but I would end up on the sex-offenders register.
Why is it not the same for women?

Its disgusting, embarrassing and yet another system of our rapidly decaying society.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: snowcap on April 15, 2012, 12:11:28 AM
just hope they use the cubicles and don't stand like what i do, but your right we would get reported if we acted the same way
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2012, 08:45:51 AM
The mind Boggles !
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2012, 08:50:57 AM
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Something that I have witnessed about 3 times recently, which I thought I would never see in Llandudno.

Whilst using the mens toilets as men do (in 3 different locations),  the toilets have been invaded by either drunken, or simply anti-social and uncaring WOMEN.  They proceed to use the mens loo in full view of those around.
They claim that they are 'bursting' or the queue is too long in the ladies.

I have seen this in a local pub, a night club, and now most recently on the pier, in broad daylight in the presence of kids and pensioners.  No excuse for it whatsoever.

Now, think about this, this yobbish behaviour by women might raise an eyebrow, or even draw contempt.... but I can't help thinking that if I did this, not only would I be arrested and convicted of several offences, but I would end up on the sex-offenders register.
Why is it not the same for women?

Its disgusting, embarrassing and yet another system of our rapidly decaying society.
We need more details on this. You mean that the women are using the cubicles with the door closed...or something else?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Now stop it or you will be getting collared for lurking about in the Gents ! :o ;D _))*
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2012, 08:54:30 AM
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Now stop it or you will be getting collared for lurking about in the Gents ! :o ;D _))*
Wouldn't be the first time for Fester.  8)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on April 16, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
I see that we are now trivialising the issue I raised.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, and it actually is acceptable for women to burst into gents toilets.
It just happens to be a serious criminal matter if its the other way round.

Well, this deterioration in society sickens me, but I suppose I'm a lone voice. &shake&
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: suepp on April 16, 2012, 07:29:20 AM
People are more likely to behave in a way that offends others because they don't care and don't feel embarrassed. Outrageous behaviour has become the norm in many situations, on the streets and on the TV screen. People measure their enjoyment of a night out by who was the most drunk and uninhibited, the rest of us are just boring old fuddie duddies, you're likely to get a load of abuse if you raise the mildest objection!

As an aside though, I've been to many places where the queue to the "ladies" will be out of the door whilst the  queue to the "gents" is non existent.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on April 16, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
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Maybe I'm just old fashioned, and it actually is acceptable for women to burst into gents toilets.  It just happens to be a serious criminal matter if its the other way round.
Well, this deterioration in society sickens me, but I suppose I'm a lone voice.

Unisex toilets are becoming increasingly popular in Europe, perhaps mirroring a change in social convention. 
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2012, 09:07:44 AM
I don't see a problem in a woman entering a mens toilet to use a cubicle, if she is in dire need?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2012, 06:11:54 PM
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I don't see a problem in a woman entering a mens toilet to use a cubicle, if she is in dire need?

What are your views then on men using the Ladies toilets if they are in dire need Dave? 
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Yorkie on April 16, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
My only venture into a Ladies toilet was on the last day of my Police service when I had to assist with a Lady who decided to start delivering her baby.  She had only a few minutes earlier come from one of her pre-natal examinations at the Middlesex Hospital!  Such is life - never again!   She didn't even name it after me!   Z**
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2012, 08:36:21 PM
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I don't see a problem in a woman entering a mens toilet to use a cubicle, if she is in dire need?

What are your views then on men using the Ladies toilets if they are in dire need Dave?
Why Not? I remember in the Bar on Colwyn Bay Pier a couple of years ago, the toilets there were unisex. Everyone just got on with it.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on April 16, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
Let me just get this straight.

These women may well have been in dire need, but only because they were drunk and anti-social.

There was NO queue over in the ladies, and they were just out to cause trouble.
If you recall, I did explain that this happened in front of children and pensioners.
A fine advertisement for our supposedly genteel Victorian town.

Anyhow, I hope the girls were suitably impressed by the men.s cubicles on the pier...seeing as they usually look like Bobby Sands has done his protest in there.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: pentan on May 28, 2012, 06:47:28 PM
I dont mind as long as they dont spread it round I resemble a button mushroom.
But seriously I am with fester on this one!! its shameful how women have little or no respect for them self’s these days
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2012, 07:36:11 PM
 Just noticed this old thread and it reminded me that a woman came into the Mens Toilets in the Kings Head during Headstock last Sunday. She did ask first, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2012, 08:43:59 PM
I too went to Headstock, later in the evening...

Whilst there, I was appalled to see many women in the mens toilets.
I pointed out to PC Tom Prytherch who was on duty, that if I had gone into the Ladies in that way, I would surely have been on the sex offenders register by now.

His reaction was, 'what, again Fester?'

Fair enough then, it appears that standards have slipped but I am a lone voice, and I will have to accept that no one else but me thinks its an issue.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2012, 08:45:42 PM
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I pointed out to PC Tom Prytherch who was on duty, that if I had gone into the Ladies in that way, I would surely have been on the sex offenders register by now.

His reaction was, 'what, again Fester?'
:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on August 14, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
Fester...
- Semper in Excretum, Sole Profundum Variat
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2012, 08:53:12 PM
Not sure of your point....... but I am going to rise above it.

By the way, whilst I was in the Gents loo at Headstock, I heard a woman screaming 'get me out, please open this door'  from one of the cubicles.
After a moments hesitation, I obliged by giving it 'the shoulder'

She should have stood back a little, because it smacked her straight in the face.

Poetic justice methinks?

Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on August 14, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6591105.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6591105.stm)

I wouldn't be surprised if Unisex toilets become the norm across pubs and clubs. For one thing it makes cleaning and security easier to monitor.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 04, 2013, 09:25:49 PM
Many years ago (MANY) when I was little more than a chick I worked as a... 'Door Supervisor' (now there's a euphemism) at a night spot in Leeds. The ladies toilet was a really troublesome spot amazingly and more the once I was called in there to resolve brawls between two 'women' ..

Anyway I digress on one occasion I was stood in the doorway chatting to the female attendant we had in there when a young 'lady' unable to wait (all six cubicles were occupied) simply pulled her pants down and jumped up onto one of the sinks to micturate.

Appalling!!

On another occasion young inebriated 'lady' comes in most unhappy that she'd spilled a drink onto her dress, so oblivious to my male - ish presence, whips off the dress and standing there in only a microscopic pair of pants proceeded to dry the dress with the electric hand drier.

Classy or what?

BUFF
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Michael on May 04, 2013, 10:53:48 PM
  Were you paid for this job?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on May 04, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
 L0L
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
 :laugh: :laugh: L0L L0L
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 12:25:24 AM
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  Were you paid for this job?

Yes and free pizza.

But their were occasional blows so it did have a down side.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2013, 12:28:40 AM
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  Were you paid for this job?


But their were occasional blows so it did have a down side.

Mmm!  this just gets better, what a perk that is!  WWW
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 12:49:35 AM
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Mmm!  this just gets better, what a perk that is!  WWW

I hope it's the pizza that has you so enthused Fester, if it's the blows that is most unsettling.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on May 05, 2013, 09:48:56 AM
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But their were occasional blows so it did have a down side.

Mmm!  this just gets better, what a perk that is!  WWW

Trust you Fester YOU are the one who is outrageous  $good$
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Bigmurph on May 05, 2013, 10:44:34 PM
If u go to any big town or city it does happen during the weekend ,it's not right and fester is spot on but with all these young chavs u have no chance of changing there behavior they will do as they please. Just bring them onto a building site they would never use a toilet again unless standing up
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 06, 2013, 01:32:59 AM
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Mmm!  this just gets better, what a perk that is!  WWW

I hope it's the pizza that has you so enthused Fester, if it's the blows that is most unsettling.

You have either led a very sheltered life, or are deliberately misunderstanding the 'subtle' double-entendre'
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:10:03 AM
Calm down Fester I was being facetious.

I've "led a sheltered  life" that's good coming from someone with nearly 4000 posts on an Internet forum  :o

BUFF
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Michael on May 07, 2013, 09:44:04 PM
   I reckon I have been very lucky.

   About 48 hours ago I made a one sentence faintly sarcastic faintly humorous post on this thread

   Only just realised it was to Buff Orpington.

   Narrow escape.    Mike
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2013, 10:44:23 PM
A very lucky escape there Mike!  _))*
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2013, 01:21:02 AM
A lucky escape indeed Mike, but sadly I have to report that MORE outrageous, (and potentially criminal) activity has been undertaken by our friend ''Buff''
Nothing to do with a few jibes and insults, but a good deal more serious.
I will report back to you all later, once the matter has been ''attended to''

What people like 'Buff' need to realise is that in this day and age, an electronic footprint is left behind when you embark upon cyber activity, hacking, etc.... Once gathered it leads quickly to the physical location of the ISP and equipment owner.
I am in receipt of that information now from three sources, cluding Paypal and Ebay) and it is now lodged with the authorities.

Buff can expect a knock on the door in the near future, and once it is 'dealt with', you will all understand the reason why it became necessary.
Now, if ''Buff'' (Ahem) would like to contact me, and he knows precisely how to do that, and atone for his actions, then I am sure that things can be simplified and mitigated. 
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 07:58:31 AM
Amazing behaviour, what must have he been thinking?  &shake&
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 08, 2013, 08:41:36 AM
I wonder what happened on the Whitby and any East Sussex forums?  :o
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on May 08, 2013, 11:17:19 AM
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What people like 'Buff' need to realise is that in this day and age, an electronic footprint is left behind when you embark upon cyber activity, hacking, etc.... Once gathered it leads quickly to the physical location of the ISP and equipment owner.
I am in receipt of that information now from three sources, including Paypal and Ebay) and it is now lodged with the authorities.
.

I'm sorry to hear about the problems you have been having Fester and anything entered on a computer is traceable no matter how clever the perpetrator is or the effort made to conceal their identity.  You have done the correct thing and no one should have to put up with that.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 11:39:26 AM
Buff being taken away for questioning:
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 08, 2013, 12:28:25 PM
 $good$  L0L
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
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I wonder what happened on the Whitby and any East Sussex forums?  :o
Probably something like this:
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 08, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
 _))* very probably! Such a shame!  &shake&
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 08:23:12 PM
I hear Buff has taken to local tv news to protest his innocence
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 08, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
In a hastily arranged wrestling match, Buff attempts a risky top rope manoeuvre on Fester, but the 'Beast of Bradford' is waiting for him and Buff finds only the concrete floor instead of his intended target:
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
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What people like 'Buff' need to realise is that in this day and age, an electronic footprint is left behind when you embark upon cyber activity, hacking, etc.... Once gathered it leads quickly to the physical location of the ISP and equipment owner.
I am in receipt of that information now from three sources, including Paypal and Ebay) and it is now lodged with the authorities.
.

I'm sorry to hear about the problems you have been having Fester and anything entered on a computer is traceable no matter how clever the perpetrator is or the effort made to conceal their identity.  You have done the correct thing and no one should have to put up with that.

Indeed Hugo, and thanks for your kind words.
I had no alternative but to report what had happened 'off the forum' as it was insidious and unlawful.
I have been asked to say no more on that until the investigation is complete and the person dealt with.

Now, what I can reveal is that earlier today, the person contacted Forum Admin to explain his actions and was advised to contact me directly.
I authorised my personal email address to be given to him. This was an olive-branch on my part to try and give him the opportunity to resolve this issue.
However, I understand that having then being given my email address, he simply replied to Admin with a series of vitriolic and abusive nonsense.
So I will let due process take its course.

I am not a vindictive kind of person as most on the Forum will know, nor do I enjoy or participate in the politics on other sites where multiple aliases abound.  But when my personal business is intruded upon I will ensure that the protagonist understands they cannot go unpunished.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on May 29, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
I see our old friend Bugsy, aka Richard Wynne Davies, has been sent to jail once again, this time for spitting at a manager at the Empire Hotel. He has 136 previous convictions, including 30 ASBO breaches. Wonder if that's some kind of record?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
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I see our old friend Bugsy, aka Richard Wynne Davies, has been sent to jail once again, this time for spitting at a manager at the Empire Hotel. He has 136 previous convictions, including 30 ASBO breaches. Wonder if that's some kind of record?
Mr Davies has just been released from Jail...and promptly sent back again after abusing staff at the hostel in Colwyn Bay that he was staying at, in breach of his ASBO.  Oh well, looks like we will be having a quiet Summer in Llandudno this year.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: llanscholes on August 09, 2013, 02:45:52 PM
bring back unisex toilets :P
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Mikethewatch on August 09, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
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I see our old friend Bugsy, aka Richard Wynne Davies, has been sent to jail once again, this time for spitting at a manager at the Empire Hotel. He has 136 previous convictions, including 30 ASBO breaches. Wonder if that's some kind of record?
Mr Davies has just been released from Jail...and promptly sent back again after abusing staff at the hostel in Colwyn Bay that he was staying at, in breach of his ASBO.  Oh well, looks like we will be having a quiet Summer in Llandudno this year.

well he's out and about now, I saw him last week
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2013, 07:22:56 AM
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bring back unisex toilets :P

Bring back ANY Toilets!    :D
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2013, 07:52:36 AM
...and Bugsy aka Richard Wynne Davies is back in Jail again, after being found abusing Japanese tourists.  &shake& 12 week sentence imposed.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2013, 01:12:40 PM
I've only ever seen the nasty side of RWD but I believe you have seen another side of him Dave and it's such a shame that he's wasting his life away when life is too short anyway.
I'm sure that he has had all the help available but like some high profile footballers he's a flawed character and thrown the assistance he has had back in the face of those who have tried to help him.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Trojan on August 12, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
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...and Bugsy aka Richard Wynne Davies is back in Jail again, after being found abusing Japanese tourists.  &shake& 12 week sentence imposed.

Would have been 12 years if they were Muslim tourists.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
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...and Bugsy aka Richard Wynne Davies is back in Jail again, after being found abusing Japanese tourists.  &shake& 12 week sentence imposed.

Would have been 12 years if they were Muslim tourists.

Stop giving him ideas Trojan.       ;D
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
Debatable whether this is the right thread for this but here goes...

Mrs Fester drove out of Asda yesterday and turned left as you must to go into town.
As she approached the junction at  Bog Island, a car came hurtling towards her, going the wrong way, on the one-way road.

In panic she swerved into the left lane to avoid it.... and it was only by sheer chance there was nothing in that lane.
Utter madness, and she didn't get a split second to get a look at the driver or registration.  But surely some camera somewhere must have seen the incident?
This was brought back to her tonight, when we saw this news article, together with its tragic results.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24101405 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24101405)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2013, 07:37:59 AM
There are a couple of cameras in that area.  Might be worth having a word with the Constabulary.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on September 16, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
I hope that Mrs Fester is not too badly shaken up after that incident as it can be quite traumatic.  She was fortunate that it wasn't any worse than it was, but Ian is correct and it should be reported to the Police as the next person may not be so lucky.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on September 16, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
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Debatable whether this is the right thread for this but here goes...

Mrs Fester drove out of Asda yesterday and turned left as you must to go into town.
As she approached the junction at  Bog Island, a car came hurtling towards her, going the wrong way, on the one-way road.

In panic she swerved into the left lane to avoid it.... and it was only by sheer chance there was nothing in that lane.
Utter madness, and she didn't get a split second to get a look at the driver or registration.  But surely some camera somewhere must have seen the incident?
This was brought back to her tonight, when we saw this news article, together with its tragic results.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24101405 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24101405)

Mandatory tests every year for the over 70s in the only solution. I would also propose bringing in random tests for 10% of all drivers every year. Once people pass their tests they are on a free ride and let their guard down
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Yorkie on September 16, 2013, 03:10:03 PM
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Mandatory tests every year for the over 70s in the only solution. I would also propose bringing in random tests for 10% of all drivers every year. Once people pass their tests they are on a free ride and let their guard down

Driver Education is the answer.   Tests only prove that on that one day they managed to do it right.  Everyone needs a good attitude to all their driving all the time, not just an hour's drive around some easy roads, once a year.   ;D
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Tosh on September 16, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
I would guess that if the car was " hurtling " towards her it was one of the younger generation, male or female, take your pick.
As for mandatory tests for everybody over 70, which I'm not, just wait until you are over 70 and see if you like being bracketed like that.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
The medical profession are supposed to report any medical conditions which might interfere with the ability to drive. This latest case, involving the 84 year-old, is one of a string, where older drivers become 'confused'. That needs dealing with, and can be, through reporting.  However, statistically far, far more dangerous is anyone aged between 17 and 25. Ban them from driving and the roads would be much safer.  Anyone fancy their chances?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Tosh on September 16, 2013, 04:16:37 PM
Ian, I agree with monitoring and particularly where medical conditions are relevant regardless of age, I just don't think that BTR can justify everyone over 70 being re-tested etc.
Who monitored the 90 year old who ran into the shop frontage at Rhos 2 years ago with fatal results.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2013, 04:20:37 PM
I agree, totally. The group that cause the most accidents, deaths and destruction are the 17 - 25 year old group. Older folk - well, we all know someone who ought not to be driving, and it's up to us or the doctor to report them.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on September 16, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
I used the word 'hurtling' towards her, because even if both cars were travelling at 30mph lets say, then it is a combined speed of 60mph on impact.
It just happens that when one experiences that situation, it happens very quickly and it is a shock.

A head on crash at those speeds would almost certainly have resulted in no survivors.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Tosh on September 16, 2013, 08:00:25 PM
I know exactly what you mean Fester.
 A few weeks ago we were travelling west on the A55 and pulled off to go into Mcdonalds at Northop.
A wise guy in a BMW came hurtling around the corner going the wrong way towards the expressway.
He managed to stop with inches to spare but if we hadn't been there he would have straight onto the A55 the wrong way, phew.
I wasn't making light of your wife's experience Fester, sorry if it came across that way.
 :-[
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on September 16, 2013, 08:31:24 PM
Not at all mate.

She was over it within a few minutes anyway, after a bit of swearing!   
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Minime on September 23, 2013, 10:11:24 PM
Dvla are useless sorry.  People over a certain age tick a box that they are fit to drive and yes lots tick it who know full well or are too stubborn to admit theyre beyond safe driving capabilities.  Even when professionals like me report them they take NO notice whatsoever.  Ive had a man with a moderate dementia being directed by his physically disabled wife.  Would he be able to react in an emergency - like hell!  Ive had a man whod had numerous heart attacks and lived by a school go out driving day after discharge for his latest attack.  His gp near choked when i told him he was driving.  Did dvla listen, nope.  Its scary who is on the roads!

I also have a 20yr old who drives in 6" heels despite me having a fit on her and the rare times ive been passenger ive been afraid....very afraid.  Even her bursting the tyre walls god knows how many times hasnt made her twig shes going too fat and kissing the kerbs! Pfffft!
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Yorkie on September 24, 2013, 08:32:22 AM
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Even her bursting the tyre walls god knows how many times hasnt made her twig shes going too fat and kissing the kerbs! Pfffft!

Seems like she needs to go on a diet and find a different fettish!   L0L

Silly question. What is your professional driving qualification?

Have you tried reporting these Drivers' to the Police rather than the DVLA?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Blongb on September 24, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
Minime seems to be having a go at the old gits brigade but they are not the ones who are responsible for the vast majority of accidents on our roads.

Take 18 to 27 year old men off the roads and the world would be a much safer place.

If doctors had to certify a licence holders 3 year renewal application for the over 70's that would prevent the real crusties from driving past their use by date
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2013, 08:40:38 PM
If we think about the recent incidents in Llandudno (2 people run over in St Georges Place, Shopfront in Upper Mostyn St demolished), they were both older drivers, to be fair.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on September 25, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
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If we think about the recent incidents in Llandudno (2 people run over in St Georges Place, Shopfront in Upper Mostyn St demolished), they were both older drivers, to be fair.

I suspect Llandudno's stats are skewed, given the elderly demographic of the area. Nationally, statistics by age are difficult to get hold of, since we rarely know who was to blame.  However, we know that in 2011 there were 10,974 accidents involving drivers over the age of 70 compared with 35,953 accidents involving drivers aged 17 - 24.

Even that statistic isn't comparable, since there are probably many more drivers aged above 70 - apparently more than 4.000.000 - than the 17 - 24 year-old age groups.  Research by the RAC Foundation suggests drivers aged 75 and over make up 6% of all licence holders but account for just 4.3% of all deaths and serious injuries. By contrast, drivers aged 16-20 make up just 2.5% of all drivers but 13% of those killed and seriously injured.

So yes;  the young male driver appears the most dangerous by a long way, but I suspect that many people aged above, say - 75 - might find it increasingly difficult to make quick decisions, such as entering motorways on a slip road (having said that, my impression is that few drivers seem to know how to perform that manoeuvre properly around here...) or dealing with increasingly complex junctions. There's a great example of one of these on the roundabout where the A45 Coventry Road joins the M42 going North. Clearly designed by Satan, or a close relative, this roundabout tests the mettle of even experienced and hardened drivers, so I would feel for anyone with impending dementia.

The important factor in all this, however, is that all individuals are different. Whilst some 70+ drivers might not be safe driving a supermarket trolley, others might well have a background in Police or Army driving and could be far more competent than most younger drivers.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Minime on September 27, 2013, 12:13:54 AM
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Minime seems to be having a go at the old gits brigade but they are not the ones who are responsible for the vast majority of accidents on our roads.

No thats just the group I work with.  I also commented on my 20 year olds driving.  Im near catatonic by the time she stops!

Yes I agree that the renewal should be countersigned for over 80s.  The young drivers have an option of a black box kind of thing fitted to monitor their driving and technically reduce insurance premiums but most wont as they fear it will penalise them more and theyre probably right.  My dds insurance for 1st year was 1600 if we paid in full or 2500 in installments on a 500 quid micra :/
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on May 31, 2014, 12:44:33 AM
After reading this article, I with I had not read it.

However, I had to share it here on this thread, as it beggars belief what the human mind can do for gratification.

I tell you what, this guy is going to struggle to get a girlfriend,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-27643702 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-27643702)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 31, 2014, 06:40:13 AM
 :o how very odd! Not sure a 'human' mind was involved with this nutter!
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2014, 08:27:29 AM
Autism is an...interesting condition. Hard to know whether to condemn or pity.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 31, 2014, 09:43:52 AM
Well, I always score high on an autism test (as on here in the past!) but I've never had any strange desires like this chap!
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Blongb on May 31, 2014, 05:33:50 PM
And all I said to the Guy was "Your full of Bull S***".
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Yorkie on May 31, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
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:o how very odd! Not sure a 'human' mind was involved with this nutter!

My dogs did the same!   :D
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2014, 12:20:18 AM
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Autism is an...interesting condition. Hard to know whether to condemn or pity.

It's not really that hard Ian.   I rather think that any right thinking person would CONDEMN!   

Take a poll,  I think my assertion would be quite safe.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2014, 08:21:22 AM
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    Autism is an...interesting condition. Hard to know whether to condemn or pity.
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It's not really that hard Ian.   I rather think that any right thinking person would CONDEMN!   Take a poll,  I think my assertion would be quite safe

Perhaps, but would that make it right? Mental illness is unique in its ability to engender howls of self-righteous outrage from many, yet if someone had a similar physical disability it's unlikely they'd be pilloried in quite the same way.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
I see it somewhat differently. 

Mental illness makes it very difficult to reason with the sufferer, and people who have no sense of reason can be dangerous.
When they overstep the mark into causing anxiety or threat to others, then they must be prevented, or punished... as they cannot be cured.  That is what happened with the guy in the article, he caused real distress to others.

Is paedophilia a mental illness?   If so it is a glaring example of what I just said.   It needs to be excised or punished, and steps taken to be removed from society.

Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
........ and now, another NUTTER, this time having sex with his bicycle!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on June 02, 2014, 07:12:17 AM
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Mental illness makes it very difficult to reason with the sufferer, and people who have no sense of reason can be dangerous.
 

Indeed.  The inability to follow logical thought and reason is a criteria of mental illness.  And some conditions can indeed be dangerous.

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When they overstep the mark

But by the main criteria of mental illness, which you established, how can they know where the 'mark' is, to overstep it?

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then they must be prevented, or punished... as they cannot be cured

Prevented, yes.  But I'm curious as to how you would justify punishment for an illness. Even murderers found to be insane are not imprisoned, although they are removed from society, as they ought to be. Perhaps people who drink too much - or drink at all - should be denied NHS care and possibly locked up? Or those who eat too much? And how d'you know they 'cannot be cured'? 

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That is what happened with the guy in the article, he caused real distress to others.

No, we only know what the reporter wrote, and that may have been embellished. Not uncommon in the news business.

Mental Health has long been the Cinderella of the health services, yet the ramifications of these conditions are enormous, damaging families, destroying careers and often leading to death as sufferers take their own lives. Not really a subject for off-hand humour.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on June 05, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
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........ and now, another NUTTER, this time having sex with his bicycle!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm)

I've been with a few bikes in my time
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on January 01, 2015, 11:45:46 PM
It's always sad to see when a respected member of this Forum decides to go AWOL from here, and then revert to unsavoury activities.
Only today I saw this evidence of football vandalism in the toilets in the McDonalds at Connah's Quay, obviously perpetrated by one of our number.
The Medz,  I never even knew you were a Notts Forest fan.   &shake& &shake&

Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Trojan on January 02, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
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I tell you what, this guy is going to struggle to get a girlfriend,

He has a girlfriend, her name is Pat.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: TheMedz on January 02, 2015, 07:52:20 PM
Being accused of football vandalism is one thing but being called a Notts Forest fan is just going too far. BWFC through and through.
Sorry about my lack of activity in the last year ior so. I've been keeping a watching brief over that period but I've had some issues with my parents that have involved me being in Wrexham on an almost daily basis and have restricted any sort of major input and response. The issues and the need to be away have now unfortunately concluded so I should once again be back to join in the conversations.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Trojan on January 02, 2015, 08:05:36 PM
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BWFC through and through.

 :D

Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: TheMedz on January 02, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
Excellent. I must try and get one of those mugs. 2004 losing in the league cup final to Middlesborough was the nearest we've been to it recently. Johnstones Paint Trophy might be best option on current form.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: TheMedz on January 02, 2015, 08:32:05 PM
I do however still tell anyone who'll listen about the night we beat an athletico Madrid team including Sergio Aguero in the uefa cup in 2008.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: A.L.N. (a local nobody) on January 03, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
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........ and now, another NUTTER, this time having sex with his bicycle!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm)

Oh I wish I hadn't seen this, I know a cyclist who once told me that " a good cyclist is an extension of his machine" I won't be able to look him in the face again.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: SteveH on August 23, 2017, 11:36:30 AM
WARNING ..... FOR B2R   .... DO NOT READ THIS.    :(      &shake&

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41012135 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41012135)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: born2run on August 23, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
At least they waited 6 months... Now people who eat lambs on the other hand  $angry$
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2017, 12:44:40 PM
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WARNING ..... FOR B2R   .... DO NOT READ THIS.    :(      &shake&

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41012135 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-41012135)

How is anything in that story 'outrageous behaviour'??   
What IS the world coming to, when this trivia is even newsworthy?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: SteveH on August 23, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
Probably not outrageous behaviour, but I found it a bit bizarre.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
Gross more like !
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2017, 10:48:22 PM
Everyone knows that sausages come from pigs, (for the most part at least), and these pigs are reared for meat.
What am I not understanding?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2017, 09:03:12 AM
It may not have been a crackling story, but the link's between the fire service, putting out the fire, that saved the farmer's bacon, and then to be rewarded in this manner, had me scratchings my head.
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2017, 09:05:36 AM
More unkind than Porcine, you mean?
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2018, 06:25:05 PM
cheeky ******

Thick as thieves ... pair arrested at court after going on nicking spree during shoplifting trial lunch break
Robert Smith and Irene Jones even brought the goods they'd stolen back to court with them for the afternoon session of their case.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shoplifting-trial-lunch-break-pair-14301082 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shoplifting-trial-lunch-break-pair-14301082)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Hugo on January 31, 2019, 03:04:26 PM
These guys do such a fantastic job but sadly idiotic morons live amongst us



https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/17399594.beaumaris-rnli-lifeboat-crew-were-set-to-launch-in-early-hours-amid-icy-weather-but-it-was-a-hoax/ (https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/17399594.beaumaris-rnli-lifeboat-crew-were-set-to-launch-in-early-hours-amid-icy-weather-but-it-was-a-hoax/)
Title: Re: Outrageous Behaviour.
Post by: Michael on April 26, 2019, 04:49:19 PM
Change of subject. Environment in the news. Eliminate waste. Even paper bags.
   In llandudno’s Main Street is a certain bakery shop. It sells “everything a pound.” It is a quick service in and out shop served at a high speed.
   One of their main lines is two sausage rolls for £1. If you ask for this you get one sausage rool in a bag. Twice.
  So you got two bags. Maybe you can buy one for either 50p or maybe a bit dearer. But I doubt it.
   Why two bags? Well it nothing to do with speeding up service or making it easier. Obvious it doesent do that. So it must be to do with helping calculate how much you have to pay.
 Same rule applies to other two for a £1.
   But is this really the best way? The company obvious think so but the environment won’t think so