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Genealogy & Research / Re: Burial record Thomas WILLIAMS 1841 Llanrwst
« Last post by jom on Today at 03:18:27 AM »
Hi Helig and Cambrian

Yes, I agree that the servants are highly unlikely to have been the servants of both the Thomas WILLIAMS.  More likely lodgers, boarders or even relations.  Having re read my post I say why you might think I thought they were servants to those households.  Sorry.

Helig, I'm assuming rightly or wrongly that my Thomas was deceased by the 1851 census which would exclude the 1855 record you mention.  I have SO MANY variables that I have to take something on trust for the moment.  I too have had family members in a separate household for a variety of reasons.  Helping the family of offspring, living apart but can't divorce etc.  I have also had members logged in 2 different households on the same census!

Thank you both for your suggestions so far.  Plenty more lines to investigate methinks!!

Interestingly, I have found a Thomas WILLIAMS who was had an alias of Thomas JONES.  He was sentenced to 3 months imprisonment for bigamy in 1843, Denbigh. 
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: National politics
« Last post by mull on Yesterday at 05:38:19 PM »
Why are the contenders for leadership of the Blue party being paraded in front of the whole nation on tv when the only people with a vote are Tory party members ?
It is not as if they have an overall majority .
Do the Democratic Unionists still have any say in all this or are they going to be ignored ?

Getting beyond a joke now!
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Hobbies and Interests / Re: Local Wildlife
« Last post by Hugo on Yesterday at 05:19:50 PM »
We were having a meal in Home From Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay last night and at about 7.00 pm a similar sized flock of Geese flew overhead in a V formation and they were heading westwards, perhaps it was the same flock that you have seen Steve?
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Local News & Discussion / Re: Stop Press
« Last post by Fester on Yesterday at 02:30:51 PM »
Youíll be telling me that men landed on the moon next! 😂
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: National politics
« Last post by Fester on Yesterday at 02:27:53 PM »
Does any Forum member have any property overseas that I could rent for the rest of my life?


Because if that idiotic, dangerous buffoon Boris Johnson becomes Prime Minister, Iím seriously out of here!
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Genealogy & Research / Re: Burial record Thomas WILLIAMS 1841 Llanrwst
« Last post by Cambrian on Yesterday at 02:00:59 PM »
Helig,

I think "servant" was used as a more generic term in those days and covered all sorts and conditions of people.  It could be they were people who lived with Thomas but worked elsewhere on a daily basis rather than being his domestic "servants". 
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Hobbies and Interests / Re: Local Wildlife
« Last post by SteveH on Yesterday at 10:59:19 AM »
Sitting enjoying the morning sun, about 10.30 , when I heard a few honks ! took me while to register the sound, but in time to see a flight of about twenty Canada geese fly over the house, heading towards the boating lake ?                (stock photo)
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Genealogy & Research / Re: Burial record Thomas WILLIAMS 1841 Llanrwst
« Last post by Helig on Yesterday at 09:51:28 AM »
Freereg has a burial for Thomas Williams in Llanwrst as follows:

St Grwst, 14 February 1855, Thomas Williams, age 73 years.

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That might just fit with your Thomas, bearing in mind the 1841 census rounded ages up, or down, to the nearest 5 years.

It looks odd to me that a Labourer is living with servants, or a servant. Was this a polite way of describing living with an unmarried female back then?

I have seen a married couple living apart in the 1800s in one line in my tree. They lived in separate houses and in this case the wife had a lodger who she subsequently married after her husband died. I suppose that was their only option as there was no divorce.

Helig
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Local News & Discussion / Re: Stop Press
« Last post by Ian on Yesterday at 07:41:55 AM »
Look what they've found on Mars...


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Three Towns Blog / Re: COLWYN BEACH 1943
« Last post by thaithyme on Yesterday at 05:40:42 AM »
Hi Hugo, Ian, Mull & Rhuddlan.
 I thank you for your enthusiasm I have spent the last few days going through my memory bank
(1) The Mine on the beach was round seemed to be very rusty in colour , it did have combe shaped spikes all around it.
 (2) Regarding  the water counterbalance Tram, I have found an old letter  inviting  our family to visit am aunt in Aberystwyth for a few days. I cannot remember much about our stay but now I cam recall a ride on the Cliff  railway. and the water gushing from the tram at the bottom So this memory had nothing to do with the Great Orme Tramway.
  I now recall the lower station and getting off at the half way point with my mother, She would bring a flask of coffee and cakes with her. I do recall we would sit on a seat which overlooked Llandudno .
 I attended a pre school on the ( I think) East shore , do remember getting a double decker Tram  to and from this school, one thing I remember well was getting off the tram wile  the tram was going , and got off facing the way it had come from thus falling flat on my face this taught me a lesson that even to day I remember. 
 I am still going through your posts and enjoying every one of them.
Reg
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