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Title: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 20, 2011, 04:09:37 PM
  ???Just been on Oscar and some nice person has been slagging of the volunteers for going round all the buisnesses and asking for a small donation towards the,entertainment,the steam engines,the bands,the ever ending demands from CCBC [STREET CLEANING ,LICENSES,BARRIERS]and in return a sticker is given to stick in their window,which i believe a few have given but do not wish to display their sticker.This person is claiming its a bully tatic and they have paid their rates for 20 years,what this has to do with the extravaganza is beyond me,surely there is no one in this town that thinks any council help this organisation. The town council started the event 25 years ago and quickly realised it is hard work and off loaded it,they used to give 5,000 thousand pounds towards it,soon it went down to 1,000 and now they realised that it was their little baby and now manage 3,000 ,which is good value considering there is not a hotel room left in town 6 weeks before the event. Now we all know it is loathed by a few locals and councillors but tourism is why the town excists so im glad we can fend off the people who are trying to turn the town into a bedsit paradise.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
Well said, Wrex. Tourism is the only reason the town exists.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
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Well said, Wrex. Tourism is the only reason the town exists.  $walesflag$

......along with shopping.  :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
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  ???Just been on Oscar and some nice person has been slagging of the volunteers for going round all the buisnesses and asking for a small donation towards the,entertainment,the steam engines,the bands,the ever ending demands from CCBC [STREET CLEANING ,LICENSES,BARRIERS]and in return a sticker is given to stick in their window,which i believe a few have given but do not wish to display their sticker.This person is claiming its a bully tatic and they have paid their rates for 20 years,what this has to do with the extravaganza is beyond me,surely there is no one in this town that thinks any council help this organisation. The town council started the event 25 years ago and quickly realised it is hard work and off loaded it,they used to give 5,000 thousand pounds towards it,soon it went down to 1,000 and now they realised that it was their little baby and now manage 3,000 ,which is good value considering there is not a hotel room left in town 6 weeks before the event. Now we all know it is loathed by a few locals and councillors but tourism is why the town excists so im glad we can fend off the people who are trying to turn the town into a bedsit paradise.

Anonymous said.....

Any one else been threatened by the extravaganza taffia?
If you don't donate you wont get this sticker to put in your cafe/shop window and it will show everyone you've not given anything to us.

Excuse me, not given?

I've paid rent and rates in this town for 20 odd years, not given anything?
I'm here through the winter when it's quiet, I have a half day off a week and pay 2 wages.
What a bloody cheek to threaten me in such a way.

19 March 2011 11:51
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 08:53:26 PM
Anonymous  ;) replied....

Dear Sir/Madam

In reply to your comment titled "Extravaganza Taffia",you were only approached for a donation and it was not with the threat of "if you don't buy this sticker and put it in your window everyone will know you have not supported us" as that is not true as the Llandudno Victiorian Extravaganza have had a few supporters donate but have chosen not to put the sticker in their window so that blows that arguement out of the water, secondly yes you and all the rest of us have paid our rates and rents "over 20 odd years" but this is an organisation that your and my rates and rents do not pay for as this is not run by the council as you probably so wrongly think as the event relies totally on donations and sponsorship, this Organisation is run by a volunteer committee, that donate their time and effort freely and do not get paid, I can see your arguement next is going to be "but they've got councillors on the Committee" and yes they do but they like the non-councillors donate their time and effort freely, the council has no bearing on the decisions made within their organisation.


I realise that not everybody likes or loves the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganaza and some would like to see the back of it all together but the organisation does bring a lot of trade in to the town over the may bank holiday weekend and again you could say that "I've always been busy over that weekend" but then you will have unless you have records going back to before the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza came along 25 years ago that will be an unsubstanciated argument as the event was introduced to bring trade in over the may bank holiday and kick start the summer season for all of the businesses in to Llandudno.

this event needs your support so if they do approach you for an donation please do so as that donation goes towards the running costs, a lot of people make money out of the event and you will be one of them either directly or indirectly.

ps if you want to know who wrote this and who we are come to a meeting and find out the truth

Many Thanks

20 March 2011 12:41

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 20, 2011, 09:00:06 PM
Anyone got a copy of last years Extravaganza Accounts?   Therein lies the answers and the reasons why donations are required.

I have no personal knowledge as I am one of those who would like it moved from the Town Centre.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 20, 2011, 11:54:17 PM
I don't care if it is moved from the town centre, to the Prom.... or even the whole length of Gloddaeth Ave from West Shore... I just love it, and I always have.
It needs to stay.

I don't benefit from it either... its a low takings day for me.... but I just enjoy it.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 21, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
 $wales Now Yorkie lets not go through all this again,unfortunatley the town was only built for tourists from England to enjoy the Welsh air so don;t go trying to put down the buisiest weekend of the year  .We welcome the English to retire here as well ,but not to try and change thr ethos of the town. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 21, 2011, 07:03:34 PM
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the town was only built for tourists from England to enjoy the Welsh air
Yes, the Welsh air, not the extravaganza  :P
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 21, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
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$wales Now Yorkie lets not go through all this again,unfortunatley the town was only built for tourists from England to enjoy the Welsh air so don;t go trying to put down the buisiest weekend of the year  .We welcome the English to retire here as well ,but not to try and change thr ethos of the town. Z**

All I said is I would like it away from the town centre, WTF is wrong with that?    L0L

You've succeeded in the welcome of the English because thare are now more of them living here than the indigenous Welsh.    $uk   $wales
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 21, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
Should indigenous be changed to indignant  L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 22, 2011, 05:01:17 PM
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the town was only built for tourists from England to enjoy the Welsh air
Yes, the Welsh air, not the extravaganza  :P

The Welsh air smells great during the event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 22, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
Here's the Extravaganza website:

http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 22, 2011, 05:30:01 PM
Silver Jubilee of the extravaganza, is there going to be anything different at all?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 22, 2011, 05:41:17 PM
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Silver Jubilee of the extravaganza, is there going to be anything different at all?

Victorian wrestling?

http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/victorian-wrestling/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/victorian-wrestling/)

I know Fester will be interested.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 22, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
Let's get ready to rumble
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 23, 2011, 12:05:23 AM
Two years ago there was a wrestling tent.... my father in law (who is an ex body-builder and wrestler) and I couldn't resist paying our £2.50 to see the show.
It was pretty brutal stuff.

Two very well muscled 'wrestlers' knocked the hell out of two young lads who were ''planted'' in the crowd outside.

No real wrestling went on... but those young lads will never be the same again.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
  ;D I just had a thought,a lot of hoteliers used to tell me that the extravaganza did them no good as it was a bank holiday,so i had a little try  at booking a room for easter and booking a room for the extravaganza,guess what ,still loads of space for easter ,extravaganza ,no chanca and all hotels had a 3 night limit,not for easter,so iam glad to have helped a lot of buisnesses over the years.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:07:34 PM
I've found 71 hotels with rooms available over the 3 day extravagant weekend.  :P
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:23:20 PM
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I've found 71 hotels with rooms available over the 3 day extravagant weekend.  :P
How many do you need?  :o :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
I don't want wrex putting people off from coming that think everywhere is booked up  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2011, 09:54:43 PM
 :( Sorry brumbob i could only find about 10 and they had only a few rooms left all the others are outside town but will also benifit from Llandudno. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Mikethewatch on March 26, 2011, 01:25:38 AM
Friends of mine who own hotels, are booked up from one year to the next that weekend.
Visitors coming purely for the extravaganza.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
Fester's Mum has never seen the Extravaganza, and I urged her to hurry up and book.
She contacted her favourite 3 hotels, they were all busy.. but all still had some rooms.

She plumped for the Marlborough ... she likes that best.   Great food in there.... good entertainment every night too.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Quiggs on March 26, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
A friend has the First Extravaganza recorded on a VHS. video. He would like to have it transferred onto a DVD. Anyone know who could do it ?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
I had the pleasure to bump into blongb again today, fresh back from his holidays.
He confirmed from his contacts that there are many hotels with availability for the Extravaganza weekend.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 07:18:11 PM
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A friend has the First Extravaganza recorded on a VHS. video. He would like to have it transferred onto a DVD. Anyone know who could do it ?

I do believe that ther is a small interface you can buy to connect the Video player to your computer and transfer the information and make DVD's.  Have a look on Maplin's web site or even Amazon.   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
 Lets have the names of the hotels with rooms because their not on the internet.This may help some of us who need to put people up,thanks.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 27, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
Here's a few to be going on with, have to admit they are going fast, some nice weather and a long gap since Christmas must also play their part  ;D
30 April 2011 for 3 nights
Regency Royal Hotel
All Seasons Hotel
The Lilly
Bella Vista Hotel
Elsinore Hotel
St Davids Hotel
Premier Inn Llandudno
St. Tudno Hotel
Imperial Hotel
The Castle Hotel
Escape Boutique
St George's Hotel
Grand Ash
The Imperial Classic Hotel
The Grand Hotel
Bodysgallen Hall & Spa
Craig-Ard Hotel
Seaclyffe Hotel
The Lindens
Poppies Guest House
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 27, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
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The Castle Hotel

Where's the Castle Hotel in Llandudno?  ???
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
Deganwy!    $walesflag$   And that's closed.    _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 27, 2011, 07:45:22 PM
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Deganwy!    $walesflag$   And that's closed.    _))*

That's why there's so many rooms vacant.  L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2011, 08:04:58 PM
 $wales Conwy castle hotel :-[
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2011, 08:09:17 PM
 $wales  Ruthin Castle Hotel     )*)&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
 :roll: Just had a look at some of the hotels on your list Brumbob and they only have the odd single room so thats why they are still coming up as vacancies.Had a look at one small guest house with 5 rooms and they have one room spare but you have to stay 5 nights,fair do;s .The extravaganza may get no credit or thanks but a lot of people make the most. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 27, 2011, 09:09:51 PM
Maybe its the TUDNO Castle hotel.... LOTS of vacancies there!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 27, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
The Castle Hotel still looks open to me, if you're not fussy  :laugh:
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=41354 (http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=41354)


might as well scag the photos for this forum  ;D
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=464.msg22313#msg22313 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=464.msg22313#msg22313)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: brumbob on March 28, 2011, 10:22:12 AM
Did I really write that, I meant the Tudno Castle Hotel  :-[
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 02:06:33 AM
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Did I really write that, I meant the Tudno Castle Hotel  :-[

$smack$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 06:10:30 PM
 :D If anybody would genuinley like to help collect during the Parade i am trying to get a group together and give just 1 hour of their time.Anyone who would like to help just let me know,i will be in Clonmel st about 11 30 each day and will sort you out with tabard and collecting tin,don;t all rush at once the forum may CRASH. WWW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 04, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
What's the commission rate Wrex?    ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
 :o Yorkie i do it for the town and the event,you know there is no thanks but hey the local kids love their one weekend a year when they can enjoy the streets of Llandudno,there may be no buses,a few taxi;s complain but its worth it for the kids and i bet you its the second most visits ex llandudno people make home after xmas.[ i said that without mentioning lights]. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 05, 2011, 09:26:53 AM
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. . . . . I will be in Clonmel st about 11 30 each day and will sort you out with tabard and collecting tin. . . .

Can you give me a clue as to how I will recognise you?    $thanx$

Will you be carrying a tin of Dulux and a paint brush?    )*)&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 05, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
 :o I will be wearing a i love Oscar hat. :-[
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 05, 2011, 09:20:04 PM
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:o I will be wearing a i love Oscar hat. :-[
L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on April 06, 2011, 12:14:25 PM
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A friend has the First Extravaganza recorded on a VHS. video. He would like to have it transferred onto a DVD. Anyone know who could do it ?

I do believe that ther is a small interface you can buy to connect the Video player to your computer and transfer the information and make DVD's.  Have a look on Maplin's web site or even Amazon.   ££$

Quiggs, if your friend doesn't want to do it himself, Jessops will do it. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:14:47 PM
 ;) Reading the front page of the Pioneer it makes it sound as if the event is smaller this year,but that is only on the friday,full size over the weekend. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 06, 2011, 09:30:41 PM
That means I get an extra day dahn sahf away from the noise and hulla balloo.  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:41:10 PM
 ZXZ We will miss you Yorkie Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on April 06, 2011, 11:57:59 PM
Who's this WE?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 07, 2011, 08:54:38 AM
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Who's this WE?

Wrex and his dog!    D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
 ;) Yorkie my dog has asked me to leave him out of this one. $thanx$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 07, 2011, 08:40:48 PM
I thought he would be doing a bit of "barking" for one of the side shows!   L0L    L0L

barker :  a person in front of a side show, theater, store, etc. who tries to attract customers by loud, animated talking
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2011, 09:52:22 PM
All the barking i do and still nobody wants to help :'( Z** ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on April 08, 2011, 09:05:43 PM
If your still need for rooms over the Extraviganza week-end, the Waverley are still taking 3 night bookings. http://www.waverleyhotel-llandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.waverleyhotel-llandudno.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
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If your still need for rooms over the Extraviganza week-end, the Waverley are still taking 3 night bookings. http://www.waverleyhotel-llandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.waverleyhotel-llandudno.co.uk/)
Looks very nice!  ;)  $good$

No link to the most excellent  local Forum on the Links page though.  $angry$  :P
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 10, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
 Just been browsing the coach firms to see how much interest there is and some firms are bringing coaches in every day,most are from the midlands and Manchester but a few daytrips from as far afield as Kettering,Leicester ,Goole fair journeys and with the two special trains in over the weekend it all looks good. Ibelieve there is a new website being developed which will not go amiss. ;):)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 10, 2011, 10:51:04 AM
Wrex:

Who wrote the "Extravaganza History" on the Extravaganza website?

http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/about-2/extravaganza-history/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/about-2/extravaganza-history/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 10, 2011, 11:07:40 AM
The last paragraph aptly sums up the present situation as far as I can see.

"At this time The Extravaganza had sufficient attendance to attract the attention of modern funfair operators. Changes to the Committee left them with little choice to allow the Heritage focus to be diluted by the ingress of modern fairground attractions offering substantial payment to attend. This dilution peaked in 2006 when public opinion said that the whole event had become nothing more than a modern street fair, squeezing out the Traditional Entertainment that carried popular support."
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 10, 2011, 11:22:24 AM
I hope someone remembers to update the entertainment page.

http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/shows-timetable/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/shows-timetable/)

It's still showing 2010 !!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 10, 2011, 01:11:58 PM
 Hi Ian i think it was put together by Andrew and Paul. Yorkie it may not quite be to your taste but obviously the coaches ,trains and cars keep a coming.Brian it is all know in very capable hands and will all be updated. PS Daisy is down whitsun so i will bring her over to yours. :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 10, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
wrex, that will be wonderful.  $thanx$

I can't remember the last time I met aunty Daisy.

Make a note of my telephone number (xxx) and please ring me nearer the time.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 10, 2011, 06:05:37 PM
Bri:

I've deleted your telephone number as it might be safer if you were to send it via PM.

 $thanx$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 10, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
 ;) Will do Bri. 8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on April 11, 2011, 12:51:03 AM
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Hi PS Daisy is down whitsun so i will bring her over to yours. :)

I thought she had her own chauffeur.  ???
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 12, 2011, 08:21:18 PM
 ;) New web site should have been up and running today. :'(
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 03:22:59 AM
This one?

http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Llechwedd on April 13, 2011, 12:10:12 PM
There was an ad. in the Guardian earlier this week saying that National Rail will be doing essential maintenance work over Easter weekend and the following week end so visitors may be delayed.  They are such idiots they have the whole year to choose from but decide to do it at a Bank Holiday and then people complain that the roads are jammed.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 12:45:45 PM
They do it on a Bank Holiday are far less people are using the trains on those days, apparently.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 13, 2011, 06:42:31 PM
 Hi Ian  any sign of this new website.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 13, 2011, 09:21:33 PM
 ;)The committee have aquired the use of the old Gareth Roberts shop for their exibition and information point,i think programmes will be available from there this weekend and all over easter.Pop in and say hello and see who gives up their spare time for tourism. WWW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
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;)The committee have aquired the use of the old Gareth Roberts shop for their exibition and information point,i think programmes will be available from there this weekend and all over easter.Pop in and say hello and see who gives up their spare time for tourism. WWW
Good work, Wrex.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
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;)The committee have aquired the use of the old Gareth Roberts shop for their exibition and information point,i think programmes will be available from there this weekend and all over easter.Pop in and say hello and see who gives up their spare time for tourism. WWW
Good work, Wrex.  $good$

Yes good work. Maybe we will see the shoe on the other foot now. Ahem....... 8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 17, 2011, 11:39:32 AM
 :-[ I must apologies to those of you who where expecting a new website up and running on Tuesday,i have been trying to find out if this is the fault of the old administrator or a hitch with the new but it is very frustrating with the event so close and people being given 2009 details. :'(
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 17, 2011, 02:16:04 PM
Wrex, if you have all the details of events, dates, times etc, you could always PM them to me and i can set up a special thread for them so that visitors can view the info on here.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 19, 2011, 08:31:57 AM
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Wrex, if you have all the details of events, dates, times etc, you could always PM them to me and i can set up a special thread for them so that visitors can view the info on here.
Wrex has sent me some info and a new, read only, thread has been created here:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=515 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=515)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
The situation with the Extravaganza website is getting more and more ridiculous as the event draws ever closer. Things like the Park & Ride scheme are still prominently featured, even though Wrex says it will not operate this year:
http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/park-and-ride-2/ (http://victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/park-and-ride-2/)
This will cause complete confusion - absolutely crazy!  :o

Can I ask...who is responsible for this disaster? The craziest thing of all is the site is written in WordPress, which means that adding/editing pages etc is simple - as easy as writing a post on this Forum. A good hour's work could sort this website out.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 20, 2011, 09:23:27 PM
 :( The site was run by Paul Williams of PAMYA ,he has now been paid off but appears to slowing down the handover to our own Ian,so unfortunatly until he hands over the revelent information Ian cannot move. :'(
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2011, 09:45:16 PM
That's not very nice of Pamaya, I only hope they are more efficient with their other clients otherwise no-one will use them. To be honest, I'd imagined that they were maintaining the Extravaganza website free of charge since it's hardly that big a job....
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 20, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
How do you enter a car in the transport festival, I've just looked at the (out of date?) website and do not know, or do you just turn up in a classic car?  ???
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on April 21, 2011, 09:16:23 AM
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How do you enter a car in the transport festival, I've just looked at the (out of date?) website and do not know, or do you just turn up in a classic car?  ???

Try emailing Len Ricketts on info@llantranfest.co.uk  :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
 :( Unfortunatley Mr Williams has failed to hand over the relevent information so we could change over websites,so he has won this one,but im sure the new site will be a massive improvement and i apologies to everyone who has looked at it recently,but hey the 26th will be a much better succsess. ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 07:47:05 PM
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:( Unfortunatley Mr Williams has failed to hand over the relevent information so we could change over websites,so he has won this one,but im sure the new site will be a massive improvement and i apologies to everyone who has looked at it recently,but hey the 26th will be a much better succsess. ZXZ
What a selfish man; given that he is so obviously unreliable, I will certainly never use his company Pamaya for any work.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 23, 2011, 07:45:32 AM
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What a selfish man; given that he is so obviously unreliable, I will certainly never use his company Pamaya for any work.

I understand there is a lot more to this particular issue and Mr Williams.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 05:06:27 PM
I believe Wrex is the owner of the llandudno-extravaganza.co.uk domain name - as such, you can have it transferred to another hosting company if you wish.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 24, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
 :) Dave you are correct and i have signed it over to another,its a shame we were let down with the web and the programme last year but you live and learn.Anyway lets hope we have a successful one,the towns traders make a killing and the committee will start planning 2012,probably with no thanks and as normal not much CCBC help. D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 24, 2011, 09:49:19 AM
Has a programme been done?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on April 24, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
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Has a programme been done?

Yes it costs £2 and is quite good.  There is a flyer too with a map of the town showing the parade route, stages, steam engine locations etc and local advertisers.  The flyer is free and 20, 000 have been printed and are being distributed from this weekend.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2011, 05:19:23 PM
We on the Forum appreciate you and the Committee's hard work, Wrex!   :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on April 24, 2011, 05:22:47 PM
Yes,  &well& Wrex and  ££$ with this year's Extravaganza.  $walesflag$

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 25, 2011, 07:53:50 AM
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We on the Forum appreciate you and the Committee's hard work, Wrex!

Absolutely! 'Tis a thankless task and if it wasn't for those like yourself who are prepared to give up countless hours and days to making sure it happens each year, the town would be the worse for it, of that I'm sure.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 27, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
We have just returned to North Wales along the A55 and passed many large fairground rides in transit.

Several were parked up for the night and already filled one lay-by near Rhuallt Hill.

I know Llandudno Extravaganza starts on Friday this year for the fairground rides so I would have expected the vendors to begin their journey to Llandudno tomorrow afternoon and not today.

 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:01:14 PM
 :)Most of the rides Bri will have only pulled down monday night so of course they are going to head straight here after their last show,with them setting up through the night tomorrow no sense in wasting diesel going home. $walesflag$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:12:34 PM
 ;D All my volunteer collectors assemble by the tram in Clonmel st  11 30am and i will issue you all with collecting tins and tabards,im just not sure if i have enought to go round.Seriously i would appreciate any help any of the days,it will be for 1 hour eachday,please. :-*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on April 27, 2011, 09:14:50 PM
Actually for people like travelling fairground workers, a layby is their home. I class myself in that group having been a long distance lorry and coach driver and market trader at various times
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on April 28, 2011, 07:12:25 AM
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I know Llandudno Extravaganza starts on Friday this year for the fairground rides so I would have expected the vendors to begin their journey to Llandudno tomorrow afternoon and not today.

In past years the fairground operators would make their way to Llandudno immediately after they'd finished a a previous venue.  That often meant they would arrive in the area on the Tuesday or Wednesday, and 'camp up'.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 08:23:14 AM
The advance party has been camped on Bodafon Fields for a couple of days now.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SDQ on April 28, 2011, 12:29:44 PM
You usually see a lot of them parked along Builder Street as well.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2011, 03:45:38 PM
For those who are interested:-
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 01, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
After a struggle in the traffic to get down town, past all the vehicles parked on double white line roads ( with no policeman in sight), past the Camper Maternity Wing and the Transport Show, we finally saw some of the Victorian Extravaganza.    I have never seen anything LESS Victorian in my life.  It was just a heaving mass of people all struggling to get somewhere but going nowhere.   As far as I am concerned any local who ventured into town to join in the melee must have been out of their mind, as indeed I was, or more correctly, we were!

Needless to say our sojourn into the heart of Llandudno was short-lived, and we were glad to get away to the sanctury of the RSPB reserve in the Junction.   Peace, perfect peace!

Bring back the Olde Victorian Week-end that we used to have. PLEASE!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
We are really enjoying the Transport festival, some great vehicles there and well organised, we'll be back again tomorrow. We had a look at the Victorian extravaganza, not really our sort of thing apart from the superb steam engines, charabangs etc, however it's brought lots of people into the town, hopefully spending loads of money, so for that reason I'm fully in favour of it, mind you I do agree it's not Victorian but it is Elizabethan :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 01, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
 ;) The event works well ,hence the amount of people who keep on coming,i fully appreciate people have their views,but Llandudno excists for tourism and i will resist CCBC  and others from turning Llandudno into a quite retirement place. :-*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Richard on May 01, 2011, 05:59:44 PM
My wife and I went into Llandudno today, no trouble parking and the town was packed and happy, the parade was great and everyone having a good time.

We drove down to the show field, again, no problems and delighted in the stalls and show items.

All in all excellent, for the town, visitors and locals alike.

Why, oh why, is there always someone ready to whine?

Is there a whiners school where they learn to whine or does it come naturally?

Many thanks to all who gave up their time to make it a great success.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
Yes, a fantastic event and lots of people obviously gave up their spare time to help out with the organisation, well done to all of them.  :)

Think I saw Wrex In Clonmel Street, resisted the temptation to go over and have a chat about the Xmas Lights with him!  8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
Snap !-- Didn't he have a couple of strings of them round his neck? ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 06:55:51 PM
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;) The event works well ,hence the amount of people who keep on coming,i fully appreciate people have their views,but Llandudno excists for tourism and i will resist CCBC  and others from turning Llandudno into a quite retirement place. :-*

I agree 100%   $good$  We've got Penrhyn Bay as the nice 'quiet retirement place'  :D  Well done to all involved, especially the transport festival, we'll enter ourt Spitfire next year!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 01, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
I actually think that the Extravaganza is bigger (and better) than any previous ones.
Not Very Victorian I agree, but there would be a lot less to see and do if it was.

Lots more big, scary rides in the Trinity Square, / Augusta area...   yep, definitely more this year.

Well done to all concerned.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 01, 2011, 07:07:48 PM
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My wife and I went into Llandudno today, no trouble parking and the town was packed and happy, the parade was great and everyone having a good time.
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Why, oh why, is there always someone ready to whine?
Is there a whiners school where they learn to whine or does it come naturally?

It takes all sorts to make a World and amongst them are some good ordinary people who do not like such events as the Extravaganza.  I certainly am not on my own.  However I do consider that the event just takes over the town.  Roads are jammed and God forbid if there was a major fire or other emergency incident!  Where was the "risk assessment" because I saw no evidence of any having been applied.

I am pleased that many people have enjoyed and will continue to enjoy the events and that the town is benefitting thereby.   But, it's not for me thank you!

And as a final comment - whinging (not whining) is very useful as it stimulates discussion and comment from the opposite and same viewpoints!   That's why I make my comments, I could just sit back and say nowt!  _))*   Now you can tell me that is exactly what I should do.    ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 08:15:10 PM
The Lady In White makes a ghostly appearance on the Pier:

Ghostly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5677032010/#)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 08:40:53 PM
Helter Skelter on the Prom:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 01, 2011, 09:02:13 PM
I absolutely love Fairground Organs and the one in your photo is a particularly good one with great animation and assortment of instruments.  I could stand and listen to it for hours.  Must get some sandwiches organised and my portable chair and spend some time there whilst I have a chance.
98 Key Southsea Atkinson Gavioli at Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6pnr_MFCM#)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: ddonovan on May 01, 2011, 09:05:05 PM
Good Evening All, apologies if this has already been posted but can I ask what the main parade route is tomorrow & any ideas as to where the best spot to take some photos is? Thanks
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 01, 2011, 09:16:27 PM
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And as a final comment - whinging (not whining) is very useful as it stimulates discussion and comment from the opposite and same viewpoints!   That's why I make my comments, I could just sit back and say nowt!  _))*   Now you can tell me that is exactly what I should do.    ZXZ

Keep whining.....sorry whinging, as it makes the forum a livelier place.  8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 09:17:34 PM
The Parade runs from Clonmel Street along the Prom to Prince Edward Square, then down past the Carlton roundabout into Gloddaeth Street, turning into Chapel Street and then back along Lloyd Street to the Town Hall.

For photos, you'll need the sun at your back, I stood at the junction of Prom/Prince Edward Square to get my Parade pics.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 09:19:36 PM
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I absolutely love Fairground Organs
I was saying to Fester yesterday that it would be good if a Fairground Organ could be sited on the Prom by the Cenotaph on Summer weekend afternoons. That's the sort of thing the Town Council should be organising.

This one, built by Marenghi & Co. of Paris in 1910, was my favourite:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 01, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
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I actually think that the Extravaganza is bigger (and better) than any previous ones. Not Very Victorian I agree, but there would be a lot less to see and do if it was.

Didn't you notice the buildings in Mostyn St, the hotels on the prom, the pier? They're all Victorian.  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 09:40:51 PM
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I absolutely love Fairground Organs
I was saying to Fester yesterday that it would be good if a Fairground Organ could be sited on the Prom by the Cenotaph on Summer weekend afternoons. That's the sort of thing the Town Council should be organising.

This one, built by Marenghi & Co. of Paris in 1910, was my favourite:

I like them to look at and its clever engineering but I can't stand the racket they make  :rage: Many years ago I used to go on holiday to Porthmadog with a friend and in my car we took it in turns with the cassette player, i had all my rock music, Pink Floyd etc which he hated and he had fairground organs and brass band cassettes which I hated :rage: L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 09:43:40 PM
I assume they use a card reader to play each piece of music?

I heard the Marenghi organ playing the Tom Jones classic 'Delilah' and the Dads Army theme tune whilst I was on the Prom!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 09:47:39 PM
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I assume they use a card reader to play each piece of music?

I heard the Marenghi organ playing the Tom Jones classic 'Delilah' and the Dads Army theme tune whilst I was on the Prom!

It's sort of an early digital code, very clever it is too, shame my ears can't stand it  :'(  :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 02, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
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The Lady In White makes a ghostly appearance on the Pier:


We'll all visit you   WWW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 02, 2011, 08:15:38 AM
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And as a final comment - whinging (not whining) is very useful as it stimulates discussion and comment from the opposite and same viewpoints!   That's why I make my comments, I could just sit back and say nowt!  _))*   Now you can tell me that is exactly what I should do.    ZXZ

Keep whining.....sorry whinging, as it makes the forum a livelier place.  8)

Thanks Trojan, I hope I've got a few more years whinging in me.  It is just the sheer mental struggle trying to find things to winge about.  Any ideas?    ;)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 02, 2011, 09:01:32 AM
 ;)We;ll get back to the xmas lights on tuesday,as for you Yorkie we would be at a lose without yours and everyone elses views and im glad we all have different views and we can agree to disagree. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 02, 2011, 09:55:47 AM
I was walking home at 11pm last night, via Upper Mostyn St.
I was struck by just how terrible the mess and litter from the Extravaganza was.

Cartons, tins, papers, blowing all over the road, and ...it was blowing all over other streets too.

Is there some sort of over night clean up process which is done?
If not, then the problem will get compounded with the next days rubbish...and so on.

It was pretty bad, I can tell you.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2011, 02:39:04 PM
The food litter is the worst--and nappies.

A good sweep and then some heavy rain might shift the sticky messes up and down.The fairground must upset alot of stomachs-- I'll say no more
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 02, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
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And as a final comment - whinging (not whining) is very useful as it stimulates discussion and comment from the opposite and same viewpoints!   That's why I make my comments, I could just sit back and say nowt!  _))*   Now you can tell me that is exactly what I should do.    ZXZ

Keep whining.....sorry whinging, as it makes the forum a livelier place.  8)

Thanks Trojan, I hope I've got a few more years whinging in me.  It is just the sheer mental struggle trying to find things to winge about.  Any ideas?    ;)

I don't know.....perhaps older folk giving-up playing squash and leaving activities like that to the younger generation?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: white rabbit on May 02, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
Went to have a walk round the "Victorian" Extravaganza today - saw about half a dozen people in Victorian costume and a huge fairground!!  Think the word "Victorian"  should be dropped from the title!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 02, 2011, 04:43:59 PM
Trojan said:  I don't know.....perhaps older folk giving-up playing squash and leaving activities like that to the younger generation?  

Now that's a game I have never played, and never wanted to.  Too many young men seem to die on the squash court.  Doesn't Oscar play squash?
A medical study indicated that squash is a physiologically demanding sport which places a severe strain on the myocardium for considerable periods of time and is capable of generating cardiac arrhythmias. The findings are particularly important for an individual already at risk of sudden death from coronary artery disease or structural cardiovascular abnormalities.

I can't winge about something that is of no interest to me.   So maybe I should winge about having nothing to winge about!   :rage:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 02, 2011, 05:51:11 PM
Late afternoon in Upper Mostyn St,
Just captured 2 pictures on my phone, First one of Darren (Fountains Bar Manager) and Ian enjoying the blooming scary high chairlift ''sky-ride''

Picture 2 is Mrs Fester and rriend from Llandudno, Tony.. on the same rise.  Both came off feeling rather queasy.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2011, 05:52:34 PM
Braver men than I !!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 02, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
 :-[ Well Fester the council clean the streets in the morning and a very good job they do,the same as they do every morning of the year,now the traders pay a lot of rates to have their litter picked up and then CCBC charge the Extravaganza again to pick up the same litter.The fact that tourists don;t throw the traders rappers in the bin but on the floor can;t be helped,as in Colwyn Bay promday im sure there is a mess there but do CCBC  charge the organizers CCBC ,THEMSELVES THE SAME AS THEY CHARGE US.All loses for promday are paid by the Marketing dept of CCBC while a County CLL runs the fairground for a very small rent,taxpayers money down the drain. ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 02, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
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Doesn't Oscar play squash?

I believe he used to.  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 02, 2011, 10:00:40 PM
White Rabbit, sorry to disagree but on my personal visit I was struck by how many people were dressed in Victorian costumes---far more than I have seen in previous years. Perhaps just a coincedence when I was there.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on May 02, 2011, 10:58:33 PM
I too saw plenty of people dressed in victorian clobber, also period vehicles and fairground rides too !, I guess some people need shadowy figures in top hats and cloaks murdering prostitutes for complete authenticity! WWW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 02, 2011, 11:00:01 PM
Ha, brilliant.... I think that particular 'exhibit' was happening behind the train station...  L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 03, 2011, 08:15:44 AM
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I too saw plenty of people dressed in victorian clobber, also period vehicles and fairground rides too !, I guess some people need shadowy figures in top hats and cloaks murdering prostitutes for complete authenticity! WWW

Are you volunteering?     ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on May 03, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
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I too saw plenty of people dressed in victorian clobber, also period vehicles and fairground rides too !, I guess some people need shadowy figures in top hats and cloaks murdering prostitutes for complete authenticity! WWW

Are you volunteering?     ZXZ


There are far too many shadowy figures around these parts as there is, granted , they are not murderers of prostitutes !, having said that 1 or 2 are not a million miles away from such activities i'm sure!,
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang always seemed to be part of Llandudno Extravaganza and it does not look as if we shall see it in Llandudno ever again.

The original Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is due to fetch up to £1.2million at a car auction next month.
 
The magical motor – described as “the most famous car in the world” by Los Angeles-based auctioneers Profiles in History – is still roadworthy but unlikely to fly.

Built by the Ford Racing Team for the 1968 movie starring Dick Van Dyke, the car is still registered with the “GEN 11” plates it carried in the film.

 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2011, 09:44:45 AM
What a shame, I guess Pierre Picton decided it was time to call it a day.  :(

You can put your bid in here:
http://www.icollector.com/Original-Hero-Road-going-GEN-11-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang-Car-from-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_i10499756 (http://www.icollector.com/Original-Hero-Road-going-GEN-11-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang-Car-from-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_i10499756)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: suepp on May 03, 2011, 10:37:07 AM
This photo is from last year
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 04, 2011, 05:40:39 PM
Bob from Birmingham said......

I now concur, sorry, the information given me was incorrect as I was told it was one of the other six models (the one with wings) that was for sale in L.A.
Incidentally they all bore the reg plate GEN 11 but only one could use it road legally.

http://www.chittygen11.com/index2.html (http://www.chittygen11.com/index2.html)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 11:20:43 PM
I've finally got around to sorting out a few photos from the Extravaganza, they can be viewed here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157626531242039/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157626531242039/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 06, 2011, 12:02:33 AM
Excellent to watch when you click on 'slideshow' and just let it run.

Because it silent, even the miseries who don't like the 'noisy' extravaganza can enjoy it maybe?

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 06, 2011, 08:09:37 AM
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I've finally got around to sorting out a few photos from the Extravaganza, they can be viewed here:




Thanks for doing that. I really enjoyed those with my cup of tea this morning. Would have been good with some fairground music!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 06, 2011, 08:12:37 AM
Sorry. my message has gone in with the quote and I don't know how to modify it.......too early!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2011, 08:43:06 AM
I've sorted that.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2011, 10:18:02 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed the pics.  :) I took over 1,500 photos of the Extravaganza but I ran out of enthusiasm for going through them all last night!

The 'Lady In White', Victoria, has been in touch with me to see if she could have copies of the photos I did of her:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5101/5691826624_d71d03fe74.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5691826624/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5691826624/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 06, 2011, 03:31:15 PM
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I've finally got around to sorting out a few photos from the Extravaganza, they can be viewed here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157626531242039/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157626531242039/)
An excellent set of Pics Dave
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
The best ones (IMHO) were the chap with the owl and the bearded chap on the pier.  Quite special.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2011, 03:44:19 PM
DaveR said: I'm glad you enjoyed the pics.   I took over 1,500 photos of the Extravaganza but I ran out of enthusiasm for going through them all last night!

Just imagine trying to do that with an old Victorian plate camera!!!    :o  
 
Thank goodness for digital, would have been hard even using film, to get that many shots in.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
Thanks all; it is very easy with digital to just keep snapping - no need to worry about having to buy more film. The D700 can also take 5 photos a second if you hold down the shutter button, so the photo count can easily mount up quickly.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2011, 06:16:19 PM
The "rapid" facility is very useful and I use it if I am tying to get a shot of an animal or bird because they are so prone to moving just as you're framing the shot..  Modern editting is very useful too, as you can crop out unwanted background and do 1001 other alterations if you want to.  In fact you can finish up with something that is completely different to what you started with!  Great fun!   :D

I'm not up to DaveR's standard yet though!   ;)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
That's nice of you to say, Yorkie.   :) I think the best photo editing program is Adobe Lightroom:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
Don't give me ideas above my station - I'm just a happy snappy chappy!   _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
And don't forget that this whole idea of photo editing is considered by many photographers as a form of cheating
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 06, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
Thanks for all the Extravaganza photos, Dave.  I was away so it's nice to see what I missed. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 07, 2011, 08:14:23 AM
Quote
And don't forget that this whole idea of photo editing is considered by many photographers as a form of cheating

I don't think that's such a prevalent view any more, Mike.  And even in the old days, photographers were constantly tweaking their shots, using enlargers, hand shading, differential development times and such like;  now, it's simply a lot easier, and anyone can play.

And no amount of tweaking can make a bad shot decent.  The shot - focus, framing and composition - has to be right before the tweaking starts.  You can fiddle with the composition, but the focus is pretty well fixed.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 18, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
better late than never (just got round to getting pics back on the internet)  some pics of the transport festival

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020163.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020166.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020168.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020165.jpg)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
I like the shot of the Bulldog mascot.  $cool$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 18, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Thanks Dave,
      it's the mascot on this Mack Bulldog

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020167.jpg)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 18, 2011, 11:46:48 AM
just had a play with the bulldog image, a pity I could not have got some chrome polish on it first :laugh:

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P5020166-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on May 18, 2011, 05:03:57 PM
I like the photos of the flags  $cool$  Bit breezy on the fields was it?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 18, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
I like the ERF with the Ruston engine on the flatbed.

It's a Ruston Model V.C.4
120B.H.P at 430R.P.M
Airless cold starting atomiser.

This engine was installed March 1926 to drive a 550 volt D.C dynamo supplying power to the slate mine on Honister Pass, Cumbria.

Last worked 1973 when it was replaced by a modern generator.

Restored to Full working order by the late T.Owen snr and T.Owen jnr, Penmachno, North Wales
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 18, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
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I like the ERF with the Ruston engine on the flatbed.

It's a Ruston Model V.C.4
Restored to Full working order by the late T.Owen snr and T.Owen jnr, Penmachno, North Wales[/i]

They had it running on the Sunday and it was very impressive  8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 18, 2011, 05:50:11 PM
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I like the photos of the flags  $cool$  Bit breezy on the fields was it?

 :laugh: yes breezy all weekend, but a great show!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on May 18, 2011, 05:52:01 PM
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I like the ERF with the Ruston engine on the flatbed.

It's a Ruston Model V.C.4
Restored to Full working order by the late T.Owen snr and T.Owen jnr, Penmachno, North Wales[/i]

They had it running on the Sunday and it was very impressive  8)

I would have liked to have seen/heard it.  D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on September 11, 2011, 08:57:10 AM
Thanks for the info.  I will book our Spring holiday now, which will ensure that we shall (tragically) miss the whole event!    _))*

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on September 13, 2011, 11:49:08 AM
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Thanks for the info.  I will book our Spring holiday now, which will ensure that we shall (tragically) miss the whole event!    _))*

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 13, 2011, 02:21:54 PM
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Thanks for the info.  I will book our Spring holiday now, which will ensure that we shall (tragically) miss the whole event!    _))*
I'd have thought you would like the transport show Yorkie!
I'll have to see about booking in our two Triumphs for the transport show! Very enjoyable this year  D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Trojan on September 14, 2011, 05:49:16 AM
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Thanks for the info.  I will book our Spring holiday now, which will ensure that we shall (tragically) miss the whole event!    _))*
I'd have thought you would like the transport show Yorkie!
I'll have to see about booking in our two Triumphs for the transport show! Very enjoyable this year  D)

Yes, Triumphs are always eye catching.  8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 14, 2011, 07:57:40 AM
 L0L  I was thinking more of a Herald and a Spitfire  ^*^0  :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 08, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
I do hope the new committee manage to pull this years event off, im concerned things have been left a bit late and there are too many people trying to make money out of the event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2012, 09:42:15 PM
Is there some doubt about this years Victorian Extravaganza, Wrex?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 08, 2012, 09:50:24 PM
Fester you should know me by now, my glass is always half empty, things just seem a bit slow but im sure they will get it all sorted in time.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
All is well then (potentially)
Here is a glass that is half full, and then empty... and then totally full again...  Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2012, 07:40:46 AM
I will be going away for the few days of the Extravaganza as usual - just can't stand the noise, the crowds, the ballyhoo and everything associated with it!  Good luck to the organisers!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 09, 2012, 03:42:42 PM
YORKIE WITHOUT BEING RUDE,WHY DID YOU MOVE TO A TOURIST TOWN?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2012, 06:38:56 PM
WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES.

WHEN I MOVED HERE THERE WAS NO EXTRAVAGANZA!


Let's be civil please! DaveR

I also moved here because my wife was born and bred here, and she has to be obeyed!    >>>
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2012, 06:54:06 PM
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WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES.

WHEN I MOVED HERE THERE WAS NO EXTRAVAGANZA!


Let's be civil please! DaveR

Suggest you tell Wrex also!   HE STARTED THE SHOUTING!


And Wrex you ARE being rude!

At least if I don't like the Extravaganza, I get to Hell out of the way!  I think that you will find that there are many of the Townsfolk who hate the Exravaganza as much as I do.   Unfortunately they fail to voice their opinions and concerns.

You  gripe on and on about the lights but so far you have achieved ef all with all your ranting and raving.  Maybe you should get out of town at Christmas.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 09, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
Cheers Yorkie,you took that well.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Was it supposed to be a joke?   In rather bad taste as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2012, 10:14:13 PM
I look forward immensely to seeing Yorkie and Wrex on the Llandudno Town Council, working harmoniously together.  L0L L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 09, 2012, 10:16:19 PM
 _))* _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
When I lived in Penrhyn Bay, I didn't find the Extravaganza a problem at all. If you wished to avoid it, you just went and did your shopping etc in Rhos or Colwyn Bay that weekend.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 10, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
So what you are saying Dave, is that we should hide away from Llandudno for the whole of the week-end and not venture forth to ASDA, M & S, Debenhams or any of the other stores that have chosen to operate in our Town Centre.  Deny ourself the right to have a coffee in one of the Town Centre Cafes, to not venture forth to meet our friends?   You seem to be asking a lot!   That is why I prefer to leave the town altogether, as indeed some other people do.

I also remember when I lived on Gloddaeth Avenue and due to the Jams an ambulance was unable to get down the road to someone who was desperately in need of urgent medical attention.

God knows what we would do if there was a major fire or incident in the town centre!

As for Wrex and the Council, he has a different political colour to myself so we will no doubt have disagreements    >>> on many matters, except decorative lighting, of course!   VV

Did anyone get upset by all the "fecking" on Mrs Brown's Boys on TV last night?     _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2012, 09:25:46 AM
I can see why someone might leave town for the weekend if they lived in central Llandudno and didn't wish to put up with the noise etc but not if they lived outside the town? I came into town every day of the Extravaganza last year to do photography and had coffee with friends in the usual haunts every day with no problems. In my view, it was great to see 100,000+ people visiting and enjoying our town.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 10, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
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I can see why someone might leave town for the weekend if they lived in central Llandudno and didn't wish to put up with the noise etc but not if they lived outside the town? I came into town every day of the Extravaganza last year to do photography and had coffee with friends in the usual haunts every day with no problems. In my view, it was great to see 100,000+ people visiting and enjoying our town.  $good$

Ah! But there lies the rub.  You are young and can maybe tollerate the pushing and shoving, the noise and the fumes and the pickpockets.   Not me, so I prefer to go away and leave the place to those who enjoy it.   

For those who enjoy the Extravaganza, let them continue to do so, but for me it is one of my very enjoyable holidays with plenty of sunshine, great food and a thoroughly fantastic time.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
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I can see why someone might leave town for the weekend if they lived in central Llandudno and didn't wish to put up with the noise etc but not if they lived outside the town? I came into town every day of the Extravaganza last year to do photography and had coffee with friends in the usual haunts every day with no problems. In my view, it was great to see 100,000+ people visiting and enjoying our town.  $good$

Ah! But there lies the rub.  You are young
Thanks, Yorkie, that's not often said these days!  $good$  $good$  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 10, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
 :-[ Yorkie im sorry you took the question out of text,i was not being funny,we will always disagree over this but im glad someone supports me with the lights.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 10, 2012, 06:16:37 PM
Which lights are these Wrex?  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 10, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
Fester we may fallout
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on January 10, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
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Which lights are these Wrex?  ;D
_))* _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 10, 2012, 11:54:35 PM
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Fester we may fallout

I hope not,  I need my hall, stairs and landing decorating!  Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2012, 09:16:03 AM
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Fester we may fallout

I hope not,  I need my hall, stairs and landing decorating!  Z**

I can recommend him wholeheartedly although we may not agree on some matters!     ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 11, 2012, 09:48:36 AM
Thank you Yorkie. $walesflag$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Llechwedd on January 11, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
I'm with Yorkie.
At the risk of repeating myself why not put everything on the promenade?  I've never understood why it has to go in Mostyn Street clogging everywhere up.  The buses could then run normally and the racket would be away from everyone except the hotels on the front.  Do away with that stupid parade with those dreadful smelly steam engine things, polluting the atmosphere and probably collapsing drains and problem solved.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 11, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
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Do away with that stupid parade with those dreadful smelly steam engine things, polluting the atmosphere

 :o :o :o one of the nicest smells in the world! wonderfull machines, but then I do like Steam railways too  D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
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Do away with that stupid parade with those dreadful smelly steam engine things, polluting the atmosphere

 :o :o :o one of the nicest smells in the world! wonderfull machines, but then I do like Steam railways too  D)

Me too!  And I like the old steam organs, wonderful machines!   $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
The Steam Organs are fantastic. Here's a close up of one of them, wonderful design and detail:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5109/5670636426_d4d153ae6a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5670636426/)
Bruxelles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5670636426/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 12, 2012, 09:42:55 AM
Well its getting close and im glad to say it seems to be getting more popular,on the Saturday there will be three special trains coming in,one a steam special so the event is doing something right for these train companies to invest.Iknow me and Yorkie disagree about it but its a well attended event and brings much joy to the local children.I think this year you will see more changes,i don;t agree with some but if it looks betterand makes more money then i will be happy. The committee need the funds to bring in the entertainers and the traction engines,some people thought that the traction engines came as part of the Transport Festival,wrong the extravaganza brings in all those organs,trction engines and all entertainers from magicians,to marching bands,at quite a considerable expense so please be a little less unfair on the funfair which funds the whole event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 23, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
With the chairman and event co-ordinator having resigned the event is in turmoil and unfortunately the event will be a very small event this year.Mr Scarratt having had little support from his committee,CCBC and the local press he finds it too much to take on alone,its very bad timing but everything comes to an end and i think this now has.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 12:39:57 PM
This is awful news. Cannot the Vice-Chair and the committee run it? It should never be a one man band, surely?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Llechwedd on February 23, 2012, 12:41:21 PM
Hurrah! :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 01:03:51 PM
It's hardly good news, a lot of businesses depend upon it for an early boost to their trading. People's livelihoods may be at stake.  $angry$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 23, 2012, 01:13:48 PM
I  will not be sorry to see the end of the Victorian Extravaganza in its present (immediate past) form but it is a pity if it is not able to have its final fling just so that like minded people can realise what a relief it will be to be able to enjoy a quiet May Bank Holiday.

I would like to see the return of the olde Victorian Extravaganza with ordinary people dressing up and parading about the town and some of the small side shows and barrel organs that were part of those long lost times.  The traders will still benefit if they choose to participate in a parade of floats or in some other constructive way as does happen in other UK resorts.

I wonder if Wrex will go along with me on this one?     L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 01:15:50 PM
A 'quiet Bank holiday' in a tourist town...can you see what's wrong with that remark, Yorkie?  &shake&

People's livelihoods are more important than your peace and quiet.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 23, 2012, 01:22:08 PM
DaveR - thanks for your rebuke- 

The word quiet does not neccessarily mean silent and that is not what I am suggesting.  There must be a level of noise whenever people are enjoying themselves but as we are not a Blackpool, or a Southend-on-Sea with their large amusement areas the sound level could be, and should be, tolerable.

If I stay in the town instead of disappearing for a few days, then my money would also contribute to the local economy!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 23, 2012, 02:43:58 PM
Yorkie i thought you would be pleased,i hope you have enought money to put into every cafe ,pub, hotel and shop in the weekend. The event has always been the one peron who runs the funfair and he sorts out the licences,road closures,barriers,police,and of course now the street cleaning sothere you have it,as far as i can see the event will come to an end this year on a very small and sad end.The only way i can see out is by one of the main funfair operators running the fair for the extravaganza committee,lets hope this is feasable.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
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A 'quiet Bank holiday' in a tourist town...can you see what's wrong with that remark, Yorkie?  &shake&

People's livelihoods are more important than your peace and quiet.

 :o
Thanks Dave
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 23, 2012, 09:17:40 PM
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Yorkie i thought you would be pleased,i hope you have enought money to put into every cafe ,pub, hotel and shop in the weekend. The event has always been the one peron who runs the funfair and he sorts out the licences,road closures,barriers,police,and of course now the street cleaning sothere you have it,as far as i can see the event will come to an end this year on a very small and sad end.The only way i can see out is by one of the main funfair operators running the fair for the extravaganza committee,lets hope this is feasable.

There will be many more people who will be not only pleased but absolutely delighted and over the moon - not least of all will in fact be some of the shopkeepers!

The Extravaganza only covers 4 days, or just over 1% of the year.  Two days are lost due to the erecting and striking of the rides etc. so all in all the shopkeeper's gain, if any, is about 1/2 to 3/4 % of their annual T/O.  The main businesses that do well are the cafes, food, ice cream shops and the  street burger stalls.   The pick-pockets have a great time too!

As an ex guest house owner, I appreciate the need for the Hotels and Guest houses to fill their beds - a bed without an A*** in it today can never be recovered - but they should be able to rely on their own marketing efforts and not just rely on getting the side effect of other attractions.

Finally, I suggest that the olde style Exravaganza could be made more interesting and enjoyable and attract people to the town without the noise and disruption we have suffered over the past few years.    A bit of Market Research may be able to provide a few answers and opinions.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on February 25, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
I've been thinking about this.  (Always a dangerous thing for me to be doing)

The Extravaganza (love it or hate it) is a massively important event, and if there is such a big threat to its existence then surely there is a process that could be followed to salvage the situation.

All I have seen on this subject is a few unofficial posts on this forum.
So, is the threat THAT great?  If so, I would suggest the following course of action.

The Committee members should put out an appeal to the local community, asking for people with management experience and spare time to devote, to come forward.  Heaven knows there are lots of such people in this area.
Then, and more importantly, spell out what is actually needed to be done.

Personally, from the little I have seen, it is made out to be something akin to having to eat a whole raw cow for dinner.
But when faced with something as daunting as that, simply break the tasks down into a list which can be shared out, and apportion responsibilities to those who come forward.

Even I was wondering whether I should offer my services, but no one is giving me any idea of what I would be letting myself in for?  So obviously I keep schtum.  I imagine many others will feel likewise.

Let us know what is required, what needs to be done, and you may well be inundated with volunteers.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 26, 2012, 08:28:44 AM
Well put Fester-- but don't ever ask too many questions! :roll:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 26, 2012, 08:33:01 AM
The Extravaganza committee is always on the lookout for fresh faces, new talent and willing volunteers. Having said that it's the timing which presents the biggest issue. In many ways it might make sense for the event to be run by members from the 3TF, but it's a far harder event to run than it appears.

The fairground element looks after itself, more or less, and the road closures, etc.  have already been sought and agreed, but the one time all hands are needed is during the week previous and the three days of the event itself.

If you're eager to become involved, shall I pass your details over to the organisers, Fester?  They'd be very glad to have you on board, but remember that you'd have to leave your stall on the pier for about seven days in total. It's a big ask...
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Craigydonian on February 26, 2012, 10:27:35 AM
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I've been thinking about this.  (Always a dangerous thing for me to be doing)

The Extravaganza (love it or hate it) is a massively important event, and if there is such a big threat to its existence then surely there is a process that could be followed to salvage the situation.

All I have seen on this subject is a few unofficial posts on this forum.
So, is the threat THAT great?  If so, I would suggest the following course of action.

The Committee members should put out an appeal to the local community, asking for people with management experience and spare time to devote, to come forward.  Heaven knows there are lots of such people in this area.
Then, and more importantly, spell out what is actually needed to be done.

Personally, from the little I have seen, it is made out to be something akin to having to eat a whole raw cow for dinner.
But when faced with something as daunting as that, simply break the tasks down into a list which can be shared out, and apportion responsibilities to those who come forward.

Even I was wondering whether I should offer my services, but no one is giving me any idea of what I would be letting myself in for?  So obviously I keep schtum.  I imagine many others will feel likewise.

Let us know what is required, what needs to be done, and you may well be inundated with volunteers.

Having spoken to the acting chairman yesterday I'm assured this year's event will go ahead as originally planned but I'm sure there can never be enough volunteers.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on February 26, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
But i was led to believe that the entire event was under threat, or at best drastically downscaled, for the want of a leader?  It would seem that the panic is over and management control has been re-established. I look forward to once again patronising and enjoying the event. Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 26, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
It's been permanently "under threat" for years, and it needs many more volunteers to keep it going.   
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 26, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
Maybe they should ask for some then? The whole thing seems shrouded in secrecy - who actually is on the committee? I have no idea who is on it, can anyone name them? Why are the accounts not published on their website etc etc. Transparency is necessary if they wish to attract more support.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: dwsi on February 26, 2012, 03:46:53 PM
THE LLANDUDNO VICTORIAN EXTRAVAGANZA CO LIMITED - board members http://bit.ly/AEcKWh (http://bit.ly/AEcKWh)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 26, 2012, 07:00:11 PM
I am surprised to learn it is not a registered charity.

Their accounts, DaveR, are available to purchase online from Companies House for a small fee.

I am also surprised to note the resignation of the Town Mayor as a Director just before Xmas as well as how often its registered office has changed since its incorporation.

I guess there must be a reasonable explanation for it all.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 26, 2012, 07:55:34 PM
Can't be a registered charity because it has a single purpose to raise funds for the event itself.  That is why it is registered as a Company limited by Guarantee.   
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 26, 2012, 08:39:32 PM
Thank you, Yorkie.

When I used to support the event with a paid business advert, I always thought I was supporting a not-for-profit organisation.

Do you happen know what it was then before it became a Limited Company in 1997.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 26, 2012, 10:57:09 PM
Why is our steamed esteemed Mayor on there twice, even after he has resigned once?  :o  ??? :laugh:

Name    Function    Appointment type    Date
MRS GAYNOR LOUISE BAKER   Director   Appointment   21/12/2010
GREGORY ROBBINS   Director   Appointment terminated   19/12/2010
COUNCILLOR GREGORY JAMES THOMAS ROBBINS   Director   Appointment   08/07/2010
GARETH OWEN   Director   Appointment terminated   17/06/2010
ALAN THOMAS GUNN   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
COUNCILLOR GREG ROBBINS   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
GARETH OWEN   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
GLORIA JANNETTE SPEAR   Director   Change of particulars   14/06/2010
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on February 26, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
Not sure I understand that list.... surely Mr Owen was involved for more than three days??

Anyhow, is the panic officially over now?   
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 26, 2012, 11:34:11 PM
Quote
When I used to support the event with a paid business advert, I always thought I was supporting a not-for-profit organisation.  Do you happen know what it was then before it became a Limited Company in 1997.

It always was a not-for-profit organisation;  in that sense, nothing's changed. However, after the founders of the event had had enough in the late 1990s, the Heritage Trust (a registered charity) assumed the mantle, and created the Heritage Company to handle the financial side of  the Extravaganza. It remained like that until 1995.  What happened after that I don't know.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 26, 2012, 11:50:54 PM
Ian, this is the activity from 1997 until now.

BTW, it is already in the publc domain and is also probably better read from the bottom upwards.

Date Description Order   

 AA 22/08/2011 30/11/10 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 AR01 13/04/2011 25/03/11 NO MEMBER LIST
   
 AP01 21/12/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MRS GAYNOR LOUISE BAKER
   
 TM01 19/12/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GREGORY ROBBINS
   
 AA 31/08/2010 30/11/09 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 AP01 08/07/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED COUNCILLOR GREGORY JAMES THOMAS ROBBINS
   
 TM01 17/06/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GARETH OWEN
   
 AR01 14/06/2010 25/03/10 NO MEMBER LIST
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ALAN THOMAS GUNN / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / COUNCILLOR GREG ROBBINS / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / GARETH OWEN / 08/12/2009
   
 CH01 14/06/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / GLORIA JANNETTE SPEAR / 08/12/2009
   
 AD01 14/06/2010 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 14/06/2010 FROM
TY WRECSAM
7 GERDDI GLEDHILL
LLANDUDNO
CONWY
LL30 1GG
   
 AA 27/07/2009 30/11/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
 363a 24/06/2009 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/09
   
 AA 31/10/2008 30/11/07 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL
   
 363a 21/04/2008 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/08
   
 AA 19/09/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/06
   
 363s 30/04/2007 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/07
   
 AA 27/04/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/04
   
 AA 27/04/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/05
   
 225 21/03/2007 ACC. REF. DATE EXTENDED FROM 30/09/06 TO 30/11/06
   
 363s 05/06/2006 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/06
   
 363s 22/03/2005 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/05
   
 AA 10/12/2004 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/03
   
 288c 29/04/2004 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
   
 363s 24/03/2004 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/04
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 24/02/2004 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 287 25/01/2004 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 25/01/04 FROM:
23 ABBEY ROAD
LLANDUDNO
CONWY LL30 2EH
   
 288a 21/10/2003 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
 AA 02/10/2003 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/02
   
 363s 07/04/2003 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/03
   
    363(288)    07/04/2003    SECRETARY RESIGNED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR RESIGNED
     
 288b 23/01/2003 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 287 23/01/2003 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 23/01/03 FROM:
FRON FARM
BRYN PYDEW
LLANDUDNO JUNCTION
GWYNEDD LL31 9QD
   
 363s 15/04/2002 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/02
   
 AA 19/12/2001 TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/01
   
 363s 14/04/2001 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/01
   
 AA 16/02/2001 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/00
   
 AA 23/08/2000 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/09/99
   
 288a 21/04/2000 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 363s 21/04/2000 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/00
   
 288b 21/04/2000 SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
 AA 06/08/1999 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/99
   
 288b 12/07/1999 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 288b 12/07/1999 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 225 12/07/1999 ACC. REF. DATE SHORTENED FROM 31/03/00 TO 30/09/99
   
 287 12/07/1999 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 12/07/99 FROM:
10 HAFOD ROAD WEST
PENRHYN BAY
LLANDUDNO
CONWY LL30 3PN
   
 363s 19/04/1999 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/99
   
 AA 31/01/1999 FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/98
   
 363s 18/04/1998 ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 25/03/98
   
 288a 10/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
 287 06/04/1997 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 06/04/97 FROM:
THE BRITANNIA SUITE
INTERNATIONAL HOUSE
82-86 DEANSGATE
MANCHESTER M3 2ER
   
 288b 06/04/1997 SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
 288b 06/04/1997 DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
 288a 06/04/1997 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
 NEWINC 25/03/1997 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION      

 

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 07:45:49 AM
And that is only a list of the Documents lodged at Companies House - what other matters are concealed under the surface?     ;)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 27, 2012, 07:48:06 AM
Interesting. I suspect the changes in registered office are down to the particular volunteer changing every so often. It used to be the case that none of the administrative staff was paid, but the reality is that the event always takes a lot of time to organise and unless you can find a willing millionaire with a lot of time on their hands it's probably no longer practical to take that approach.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
Well im back from a weekend away and glad that at least people are talking about it,as for making money,i wish,no it others that make money,charities over the weekend,cafes,restaurants and all hotels( most allow only 3 night bookings), the committee only put the event on for the town,i would love somebody to tell me what i ever gained from it. Anyway i hope Alan Guinn the acting chairman has got his committee sorted and is trying to pick up the pieces,anyone wanting to offer help and support could speak to Dave Mann on 01492 872688.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 29, 2012, 10:23:08 PM
There is a meeting tomorrow nite at the Trinity center at 7,im not sure were we are up to but if there is anyone who wants to help or just see who helps run the extravaganza.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 01, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
It is a shame nobody from the committee thought of informing the NWWN so it could have been included in today's edition.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 01, 2012, 08:36:17 AM
Cllr Ann Yates is on the case according to the Pioneer!   So now there is nothing to fear apart from fear itself!

Once the Council get their grubby hands on the Extravaganza it will go the same way as the Decorative Lighting and the pathetic Xmas Parade!    :rage:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Yorkie you know the town council started it and even in those early days realised,wow, this is too much like hard work we need to farm this out to  some real mugs,and here i;am still getting involved,why, who for,to benefit who.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
Going along to meeting tonite to see if i can help,i would never had got involved again but when somebody leaves at such short notice i suppose it is all hands on deck.Iam hoping the event does not have to decrease as much as the press are saying.When i see that coach firms and even train companies are all coming into town on the precept that there will be an event ,i would hate for this town to get a bad name so im of to help.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 01, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
&shake& wrex, make sure you do not over commit yourself. 

Remember to leave ample time for your canvassing.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 01, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
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&shake& wrex, make sure you do not over commit yourself. 

Remember to leave ample time for your canvassing.

.......and more importantly, my hall, stairs and landing!   :) :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 01, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
And my ceilings and paintwork.!   Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 02, 2012, 04:47:32 PM
ex  chairman very slow at handing over paper work so everything is on hold,just hope he hands over everything soon or it will be a disaster
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 09, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
Boo still going
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 09, 2012, 06:33:16 PM
It may help if someone updated the website.

http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/ (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
What is the situation with the website, Wrex? It looks as though it hasn't been touched since all the problems last year?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2012, 07:36:44 AM
It should be up on thursday and at the moment things seem to be on track.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2012, 09:07:54 AM
That's good to hear.  Well done to all involved. $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 16, 2012, 12:11:47 PM
Thanks to Oscar for keeping us on our toes, its not easy working and running this event and we don;t want any thanks ,just a little understanding. When people say we are begging thats a little harsh when we all do it for nowt and its the town that benefits not us,all i get out of it is taking a few days out of my working week without pay,not run by CCBC,Llandudno Town Council or any one but volunteers,we all do it because its good for our town it would be no loss to me whatsoever but all YJB AND PRIMARY SCHOOL KIDS WILL ALL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE one WEEKEND WHEN THEY CAN ENJOY A BIT OF FUN IN THEIR TOWN.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on March 16, 2012, 02:01:25 PM
Can you give us a link to this web site wrex? Can't seem to find an up to date one yet .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on March 16, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
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Thanks to Oscar for keeping us on our toes, its not easy working and running this event and we don;t want any thanks ,just a little understanding. When people say we are begging thats a little harsh when we all do it for nowt and its the town that benefits not us,all i get out of it is taking a few days out of my working week without pay,not run by CCBC,Llandudno Town Council or any one but volunteers,we all do it because its good for our town it would be no loss to me whatsoever but all YJB AND PRIMARY SCHOOL KIDS WILL ALL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE one WEEKEND WHEN THEY CAN ENJOY A BIT OF FUN IN THEIR TOWN.

Well put wrex, My children can't wait , I can't wait , thank you for all your hard work, some people DO appreciate it ! p.s. all the moaning old farts will be dead soon so it wont be bothering them  WWW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 16, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
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p.s. all the moaning old farts will be dead soon so it wont be bothering them  WWW

Many seem to last for years and years and years!    L0L
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on March 16, 2012, 07:50:58 PM
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p.s. all the moaning old farts will be dead soon so it wont be bothering them  WWW

Many seem to last for years and years and years!    L0L

Yes Yorkie ,  you do, oh i mean they do  _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 16, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
 $walesflag$ Long live Yorkie. ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 17, 2012, 07:48:44 AM
Well done to last years committee for winning best community event last year. We know it gets slated but lets be honest it works,hence the return of thousands every year. For next year there has to be an influkes of new and young for the event to survive because there are only a handfull capable of running up and down Mostyn St all weekend. All you ever get is the funfair,well until we magic 30,000 pounds it pays for the job but more importantly to me is it gives the youth of this town just one weekend when their town is transformed and they can have a laught. It does need tweaking but with such short notice there is no chance this year. If you want to complain then do it to one of the 76 coffee outlets in town and see what they say. D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 08:27:45 AM
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Can you give us a link to this web site wrex? Can't seem to find an up to date one yet .

Any chance of an answer?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2012, 08:36:51 AM
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  If you want to complain then do it to one of the 76 coffee outlets in town and see what they say. D)

wrex, we stopped counting at 84
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 17, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
 Nemisis ,here is your link but i have just phoned our webman and he is working on it as we speak,so don;t expect it to be up this minute. WWW.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk (http://WWW.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk). 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 17, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
And I believe congratulations are in order?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 12:47:08 PM
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Nemisis ,here is your link but i have just phoned our webman and he is working on it as we speak,so don;t expect it to be up this minute. WWW.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk (http://WWW.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk).

Thanks wrex
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 17, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
Quote
And I believe congratulations are in order?

Didn't the Extravaganza win something last night, Wrex?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 18, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
Best community event Ian,sorry about the website,i don;t know why its not up, i was told thursday,then told it was being done yesterday,but no one has been in touch to explain why,once again sorry.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 24, 2012, 10:15:01 PM
Things seem to be back on track,its hard to ask for help when you get slaughtered o Oscar so it seems were left to go it alone,little help from CCBC and unable to plea for support so this tears will go ahead but next years is going to change,in the way it is run and funded.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2012, 07:55:45 AM
The hospitality Association are supposed to be collecting for us ,when they heard rumours the event was in trouble they offered to collect around the large hotels so lets hope they contact us soon.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 25, 2012, 08:35:40 AM
Judging by some of the comments, wrex, the updated site has a few problems.

http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/ (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/)

Hopefully, they can be rectified quite quickly.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on March 25, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
Doesn't seem to be any pics in the photo gallery!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
I have just apologised to Oscar for the little misunderstanding,he accused me of slagging him of when that is the last thing i would do,Oscar normally supports the extravaganza and what was meant was we get slaughtered ON Oscar and not by Oscar,sorry.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on March 25, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
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I have just apologised to Oscar for the little misunderstanding,he accused me of slagging him of when that is the last thing i would do,Oscar normally supports the extravaganza and what was meant was we get slaughtered ON Oscar and not by Oscar,sorry.

Yes , thought it was strange , we all know how much you do for the extravaganza , and yes, oscar is also a decent supporter of the event ! All is well again !
all we need now is this lovely weather over that weekend  ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2012, 06:44:33 PM
On the Friday afternoon there is a Alice day on the prom as it is her birthday ,so the extravaganza will be doing a bit with the event(4 may),as you may know Mr B Mortelock has aquired the Alice collection and has plans to open an Alice museum soon,so this should be good for the town and look forward to seeing his plans.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
 $walesflag$ He seems to have had a lot of interest in the day from all over the country and abroad,with entertainers coming from all over to celebrate her birthday.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 28, 2012, 06:31:37 PM
One of the biggest Alice fan clubs is in Japan - must be the furthest away also!  Domo origato!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 30, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Im glad to say the website is looking a bit better now,sorry for the delay but we have only just got access to it so we will now be able to add to it with some help from a certain man,many thanks Dave.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 30, 2012, 09:00:57 PM
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Im glad to say the website is looking a bit better now,sorry for the delay but we have only just got access to it so we will now be able to add to it with some help from a certain man,many thanks Dave.
Glad to help out, Wrex. It's Llandudno's single most important event and it needs to have a good website.

It is looking a lot better but there are still a few bits and pieces that need fixing. I will try and get it finished off over the next few days

http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/ (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 05, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
Nice to see the local press giving the extravaganza some positive cover,everybody seems to be pulling together to get our event up and running to full steam.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 05, 2012, 08:48:24 PM
I'll be around to let off steam!   Couldn't get away this year so I will probably enjoy the spectacle along with everyone else.

I love the steam organs so can often be found standing google eyed in front of the biggest and brashest one in the show!    D)

If you're around I'll buy you a coffee at Nero's.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 09:13:39 AM
Does that include a muffin Yorkie ?. I hope they realise how busy they are going to be.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2012, 09:33:36 AM
Mmmm...bacon muffin at Caffe Nero. One is never enough!  ;)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 10:09:28 AM
 Programmes are ready,will drop one off to you Dave.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
Cheers, Wrex.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on April 07, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
Just bought one in town. Funny that they are thanking us for our contribution--- no one has been near !!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 01:36:24 PM
 Not many have come to thank us for spending all our spare time organising this for the whole town but never mind one day we may be apprciated.Getting people to help is so hard these days.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 01:54:58 PM
Anybody who wants to make a contribution towards the event or help feel free,thats what we do it for and charge,FREE.The address is  LVE, PO BOX 156 OR TELEPHONE 01492 546346
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
All businesses that benefit from the Extravaganza should contribute something towards it, even if its only a few quid.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 06:01:55 PM
Still waiting to hear from the hospitality assoc,promised to support when rumours it may not be going ahead,but not heard a thing since,no wonder the committee get fed up with constant critisizing .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 17, 2012, 07:33:27 AM
The committee are all working hard to bring the event to town,after a bad easter i hope the event can bring a little cheer to all traders which it was only ever started to for.I personally will end up taking a few days off costing me a fair bit and obviously that is my choice,as you know i came back only because the Chairman resigned and the committee needed a hand with the funfair so just remember if you do benifit from the event being on it would not kill you to say thanks and here is a donation towards the FUTURE ,yes i know people expect us to come to them because we have all the time in the world.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on April 17, 2012, 09:50:59 AM
Wrex, now might be a good time to drop me some magazines in, I can try to push the event and sell a few... as you originally requested.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 17, 2012, 09:51:12 PM
Put "convert vhs to dvd" into Google and you will find loads of options from DIY to we'll do it for you.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on April 17, 2012, 11:38:17 PM
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Put "convert vhs to dvd" into Google and you will find loads of options from DIY to we'll do it for you.

EH?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2012, 07:35:13 AM
Thanks Fester
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2012, 08:32:49 AM
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Put "convert vhs to dvd" into Google and you will find loads of options from DIY to we'll do it for you.

EH?

Dunno how that got there - it was a reply to Quiggs who asked the question about getting VHS onto DVD.  Gremlins I suppose!   L0L

Or maybe I had the Thread opened at an old page, as I can't find Q's post now!    :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
Well Yorkie you have been found out,you must have been on the extravaganza page because you love it. _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2012, 07:09:51 PM
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Well Yorkie you have been found out,you must have been on the extravaganza page because you love it. _))*

Of course I love the Extravaganza page,  it's just about as near as I want to be to the event!  Only joking Wrex.  I'll see if I can get by for that coffee.     Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
Where can we get a coffee from.Oh i forgot 79 outlets or something like that.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 19, 2012, 08:14:59 AM
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Where can we get a coffee from.Oh i forgot 79 outlets or something like that.

If we're really stuck I'll bring a camping stove!    Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Just spent the day in our extravaganza office,sorting out collecting tins,bunting,charity stalls,security,street plans,entertainment oh what a job this is but we think its in a good cause,only  11 days left to organize everything ,i hope we can have a good event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on April 23, 2012, 12:32:40 AM
It will be a FANTASTIC event.

I have five family members coming for 4 days especially for this, and they are spread across 2 hotels.

The weather must surely be kind to us, seeing as its been terrible for the last week and the forecast for the next 7 days is dire.

It must be due to change by then.  Can't wait, and well done to Wrex and the other organisers.  $good$ &well& &well&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2012, 01:35:03 PM
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Just spent the day in our extravaganza office,sorting out collecting tins,bunting,charity stalls,security,street plans,entertainment oh what a job this is but we think its in a good cause,only  11 days left to organize everything ,i hope we can have a good event.
I hope the people/businesses of Llandudno appreciate all the hard work you and the others do, and send a few pounds to help towards next year's event.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on April 27, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
I was a bit surprised to see yellow posters advertising Colwyn Bay Prom Day attached to the taxi rank railings by Palladium. I wonder if there are posters in Colwyyn Bay advertising the Extravaganza?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 29, 2012, 08:12:52 AM
Sorry Dave ive given up on CCBC running promday,anyway so much to do,bunting to put up,funfair to arrange,programmes to sell,buckets to seal,chairs to sort out,lots to do,just lacking the right person to approach the tows buisnesses for support,it Cantakes a special person who can ask for help and we are lacking the personel,but we are nearly there and its all hands on deck.Can somebody order some sun please.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 02, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
Double header steam train pulls into extravaganza at 12.12 saturday,then a diesel special pulls in at 12 50 both in time for the parade.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 03, 2012, 08:23:08 AM
Gonna be a bit difficult getting them down Vaughan Street!     _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 12:25:30 PM
NWWN says that the Daily Grand Parade is at 12.30pm??
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2012, 12:51:54 PM
Right hand and left hand comes to mind !
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
I believe Judith Phillips is away on holiday.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 03, 2012, 01:45:45 PM
Seen on another thread:

"The Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza will be taking over the streets of Llandudno on May 5th, 6th and 7th May 2012."

EXACTLY!!!!!    >>>
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 03, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
But it will be bringing in many visitors and lots of cash to the town, that must be good surely? At least you can go and look at the transport festival on Bodafon Fields, we loved it last year D)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 03, 2012, 04:12:34 PM
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But it will be bringing in many visitors and lots of cash to the town, that must be good surely? At least you can go and look at the transport festival on Bodafon Fields, we loved it last year D)

I too love the transport Festival, not just for the exhibits, but because it is well organised, is restricted to a particular area and does not infringe on ones ability to visit the town and its facilities.

The number of businesses who gain from the "Victorian" Extravaganza are not that many, and there are plenty of retailers who would rather not have the Event.  Such do not, of course, include cafes, fish and chip shops, pubs, ice-cream sellers, pick pockets and shop lifters, to name just a few!

I will only come into town out of sheer necessity.

That's how I feel.  There are plenty who feel different and enjoy the event and I hope they have a great time and spend lots of money in the town.  It will not however, make one iota of difference to our rates bill next year and the Extravaganza Committee will be out with the begging bowls yet again, due to lack of support from those who you say gain from the event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2012, 11:09:03 PM
Well, here it is again. I've just had a little walk through town and I'm fascinated by some of the machines that are being erected! I think it's about time we dropped the "Victorian" from the title as it clearly isn't anymore.

Love it or loath it I think everyone should agreee that this must be one of the major events in all of Wales and we should be proud of it.

If you are hoping to enjoy it, I hope you enjoy it. If you are hoping to make a few quid out of it I hope you make a few quid out of it. If you are one of the organisers I salute you.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 04, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
Indeed Paddy,

I have family arriving for the Extravaganza, they will enjoy it no matter what the weather.  They always do, and I always do.
They will be spending in hotels, restaurants, bars, shops and my Mum cant resist giving to every charity stall and tombola.

Me? I'll be working every day.  Its not such a good weekend for me takings wise, but I honestly dont care... its good for the town in general.

Well done to the organisers.   $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 05, 2012, 08:19:22 PM
Thank you paddy and Fester its nice to get some applause.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2012, 09:01:05 PM
Wrex certainly worked hard today, he was all over the place sorting things out. Well done, mate.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 06, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
Thanks Dave,TWO MORE DAYS OF RUNNING AROUND and thats my bank holiday gone,lets hope when certain buisnesses are banking on tuesday they remember why.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2012, 03:42:47 PM
Great job Wrex.  I think I'm not going to make that coffee as the crowds may (probably will) set off my Ochlophobia.   Maybe another time.    ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2012, 08:51:35 AM
Some photos of the Extravaganza can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157629964639331/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157629964639331/)

Mr. Alexander was the best act, in my view. In the photo below, he decided to stand on a chair, that was balanced on another chair, that was balanced on a piece of board, that was balanced on another chair, that was stood on a table...whilst juggling knives!!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5118/7004188456_1756b6bd66_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7004188456/)
Llandudno Extravaganza 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7004188456/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 07, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
Thanks for that link to the set of photos. I have enjoyed them over breakfast.
I sent the link to my mum who sent this reply,

"Dave has done a wonderful job there what a great free show  .Well done Llandudno MX"

She is lucky, she learnt how to use a computer aged 80! 86 now.
We take it for granted a bit but what a great way it is to show the world what a place has to offer with a set of photos like that.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: chemirocha on May 07, 2012, 12:20:08 PM
Like a lot of people, I always like to moan about the extravanza and how difficult it is to get anywhere, all that hooting going on, and other grumpy old man stuff, but it really is a fantastic event and something to be very proud of.

Seemed a bit quieter to me yesterday, compared to previous years, but then it was a bit nippy despite the sunshine.

A big thank you to all those who put in such hard work to make this happen. $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 01:15:01 PM
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Hurrah! :laugh:


Why is this post a 'sticky'?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
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Hurrah! :laugh:


Why is this post a 'sticky'?
It's not, now. An inadvertent press of the Sticky button, no doubt.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
Here's a thought which occurred to me today. I was at Colwyn Bay Prom Day and saw that Tudno FM Community Radio were there. But Colwyn Bay isn't their community, Llandudno is. I don't think anyone in Colwyn Bay can even get Tudno FM, unless by Internet. Why weren't they at the Extravaganza?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: majormellons on May 07, 2012, 06:06:31 PM
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Some photos of the Extravaganza can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157629964639331/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157629964639331/)

Mr. Alexander was the best act, in my view. In the photo below, he decided to stand on a chair, that was balanced on another chair, that was balanced on a piece of board, that was balanced on another chair, that was stood on a table...whilst juggling knives!!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5118/7004188456_1756b6bd66_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7004188456/)
Llandudno Extravaganza 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7004188456/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Without doubt, the highlight of my VE weekend stroll.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2012, 06:18:09 PM
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Without doubt, the highlight of my VE weekend stroll.
It would be great if we could have a few similar acts dotted around the town for next year's Extravaganza, wouldn't it? He is exactly the sort of act people expect at the Extravaganza.

I noticed he also appears at this similar event in Chester:
http://www.chesterfestivals.co.uk/mbna-chestival/chestival-whats-on/vaudeville-in-the-day-part-of-mbna-chestival-p147321 (http://www.chesterfestivals.co.uk/mbna-chestival/chestival-whats-on/vaudeville-in-the-day-part-of-mbna-chestival-p147321)
If you scroll down the page, you'll see that there is a long list of Corporate sponsors, maybe the focus could be on something similar in Llandudno to reduce the dependence on fairground rides and give the Extravaganza the cash to book a few more acts? I spoke to the Manager of one of the town's largest Bars on Saturday and he said that he had not even been approached to contribute this year.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
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Hurrah! :laugh:


Why is this post a 'sticky'?
It's not, now. An inadvertent press of the Sticky button, no doubt.  :laugh:

 $thanx$  :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 07:35:44 PM
Well we had a look this afternoon, shame about the rain, we really enjoyed wandering around, lots of people all looking happy, must be great for the town! Well done to all involved!  $good$

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
inside the ghost train!  :o 

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We had a lovely ride on this Crosville bus, why can't anything modern be as nice as this, even the heater is a work of art! 1951 built but very art deco  D)

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Nice pics, ME. That Crosville bus is very stylish.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bellringer on May 07, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
Fascinating watching some of the larger amusements being dismantled tonight and packed up for transporting home on long lorries. Not too many hard hats or high vis vests on display though!!

I had a grandstand view from the belltower of the operation to dismantle and get the dodgem car structure all packed up - really quite an amazing procedure.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2012, 10:15:02 PM
We also went to the Transport Festival on Saturday, again very enjoyable, lots of classic cars, trucks, buses etc!

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Start you b@:*%*  :laugh:
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 08, 2012, 12:12:48 AM
Many thanks and congratulations to Wrex and all his fellow workers for all their hard work.   $thanx$

Thanks too, to all the rides surrounding Holy Trinity Church, as they kept their music quiet during the morning service, which was much appreciated. 

I went around the Extravaganza on Sunday afternoon and it was wonderful to see so many people enjoying themselves.  I enjoyed the parade (sorry I didn't spot you, Nemesis) but was sorry to miss Mr. Alexander's performance - that chair balancing act looks amazing.  The GOES display was fascinating (lovely to meet you, Debbie) and I met up with friends to watch one of the Alice performances, which we thoroughly enjoyed.  We ended the day by watching the transport parade and the organisers of the Transport Festival must also be congratulated for bringing together such a lot of interesting vehicles.

I should like to say a special thank you to the very kind and helpful operators of the Mach 1 ride in Trinity Square, who enabled me to take some aerial photos of Holy Trinity.   $thanx$  $thanx$  $thanx$

Wrex, would it be possible to pass on my thanks to the Mach 1 people, please? 

 &well&  everyone!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bellringer on May 08, 2012, 12:34:51 PM
Blodyn, you do have a head for heights! I look forward to seeing your pictures in due course.

How marvellous to see how clean and tidy the town is this morning, there has obviously been a big clean up overnight. Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Debbie on May 08, 2012, 02:38:10 PM
Lovely to meet you too Blodyn. Definitely looking forward to seeing the aerial photos.

Just to say what a super extraveganza weekend. The GOES tent was busy for the two days we were there. We gave two guided walks under the pier to look for remains of the old pier as well, and both events went really well. Just as we finished the Sunday walk under the pier we arrived back on the marine drive to see the transport parade - wow! It was great! Have added a picture from the GOES tent. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 10, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Here's a picture of Holy Trinity from the air (well, from the Mach 1 ride, with thanks to the operators for their help). 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
 $cool$ a great view!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 10, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
Thanks!

I meant to say before I much I liked your photos of flags and flying fish at the Transport Festival.  The bright colours against that lovely blue sky look so cheerful. 

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
Cheers! I took this one last year

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2012, 08:03:56 AM
Excellent, Blodyn!  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 11, 2012, 08:29:38 AM
Blodyn, you daredevil!
 :o
 &well&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 11, 2012, 09:34:47 AM
EEEEEEK-- Blodyn --did you actually go up in that thing yourself? If so well done!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
loveiy photo,his name is Nathan
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 12, 2012, 12:55:07 AM
Hollins and Nemesis, I have to admit that in the end I didn't have to be very daring. 

I eyed up the ride for a while after church and thought that it didn't look too fast (that was an illusion as the ends of the arms apparently get up to 60 mph!) but thought that the turning upside down looked a bit too exciting. :o  The ride also seemed to go on for a long time - rather too good a value for my liking.  However, at the beginning or end of the ride there would have been time, from the right seat, to get a good view of the church, so I was prepared to have a go. 

I asked if I'd be able to take my camera on the ride, to take some photos of the church, but was told "Sorry, no", as it wouldn't have been safe to take anything which could fall.  :(  However, if I went back at the end of the afternoon, when it was quietening down, I could have a couple of minutes at the top and then come down again - so that's how I got the photos.  :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 12, 2012, 09:35:31 AM
Sorry, Blodyn, but I have to disagree.

On Saturday afternoon, I thought ten revolutions for £4 was poor value-for-money but it did not seem to deter all the teenagers from queuing up.

In fact, there was a similar ride in Upper Mostyn Street that did 13 revolutions for £4 with no queue at all when we passed.

BTW, I do love your pics.

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 12, 2012, 10:20:11 AM
On the other hand I would have paid NOT to go on either one :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 12, 2012, 10:33:20 AM
I totally agree but I wouldn’t have minded the takings just for one hour.

8 x £4 = £32
15 x £32 = £480

Can you begin to imagine the takings for the whole weekend at around £500 per hour?

I wonder how much (or little) they pay the Extravaganza Committee for that spot outside Trinity Church and the National Trust?


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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 12, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
You did well there Blodyn. How nice of them to accommodate you. ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 12, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
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I totally agree but I wouldn’t have minded the takings just for one hour.

8 x £4 = £32
15 x £32 = £480

Can you begin to imagine the takings for the whole weekend at around £500 per hour?



Bri, you are talking my kind of language there!  $good$

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Mikethewatch on May 12, 2012, 11:50:09 AM
Yes, but they still had to buy the ride, pay insurance etc.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 12, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Now I've gone off the idea!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blodyn on May 12, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
Well, Bri, I didn't count the revolutions and I can see that the teenagers might have agreed with you but, personally, I would have considered 10 spins more than adequate and 13 excessive!  ;D  Thanks for your comment on my photos.

Nemesis, yes, the people were very kind and helpful. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 12, 2012, 02:53:59 PM
Not a problem, Blodyn, but if I am not being rude, I am still curious for an answer to my question especially if these fairground rides can each manage to draw in £10,000 plus over the weekend.

I would hate to think the Extravaganza Committee undersell themselves.


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I wonder how much (or little) they pay the Extravaganza Committee for that spot outside Trinity Church and the National Trust?

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 13, 2012, 07:34:56 AM
Bri,can you imagine the grief i had from the operator when he realised there was a ride the same as his in Upper Mostyn St and he had to lower his price to 4 pound from 5,he was not happy,but like i told him i don;t ask you how much you take home so please no complaining about a bit of competition.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 13, 2012, 10:58:03 PM
Good answer Wrex.

That question ranks alongside the most annoying ones I hear when I am working.

Those being, ''How much do you take in here mate?''

Or ..... ''I bet you do alright, I'll give you £1 for this item that costs £2.99..''

I always wonder what response they would get asking the same question in Asda....... or Cafe Culture!  :o
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 13, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
What's wrong in enquiring?

If it's dirt cheap I may consider doing something myself next year.

 
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I wonder how much (or little) they pay the Extravaganza Committee for that spot outside Trinity Church and the National Trust?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 14, 2012, 08:43:20 AM
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Good answer Wrex.

That question ranks alongside the most annoying ones I hear when I am working.

Those being, ''How much do you take in here mate?''

Or ..... ''I bet you do alright, I'll give you £1 for this item that costs £2.99..''

I always wonder what response they would get asking the same question in Asda....... or Cafe Culture!  :o

Glad it isn't only me who gets annoyed with these people.
We get them in the Charity Shop----" I'll give you a pound for that love" for a Wedgewood dish priced at £4  and I have actually seen people trying to pull buttons off blouses so as to ask for a reduction, let alone pocketing goods.
Where do these people think money comes from if we don't raise it? I have made one or two people think twice, by just quietly saying " I'm sorry, but I am only a volunteer, shall I get the manageress?" They usually slink away muttering.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 08:48:26 AM
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I always wonder what response they would get asking the same question in Asda....... or Cafe Culture!  :o
I doubt they would get a positive reception.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
These people operate some of the bigger rides at the Extravaganza:
http://www.nkattractions.com/Mach1.html (http://www.nkattractions.com/Mach1.html)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 19, 2012, 09:18:39 AM
I would just like to thank DaveR for his help with the website,it was much appreciated.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 19, 2012, 10:18:22 AM
I think for what Dave Roberts does to help promote the town with this website he should be given the honour of carrying the Olympic Torch partly through Llandudno and probably past Caffe Nero.   

The problem is DaveR would refuse because he will much prefer to take photos of the event.

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 19, 2012, 11:51:38 AM
Bri do you really think DaveR could run past Fat Cat,Cafe Nero without calling in, and that would be a fire risk
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 19, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
On this years event i think it went quite well cosidering the time we had to put it on,all members pulled together and praise has to co to Barney and Gaynor Baker for the hard work they put in,Alan Guinn,Daive Mann and all members.As for next year we can now sort out things that looked wrong on Mostyn st ,the programme,entertainment,the steam,marketing,CCBC involvement and most important is trying to invole younger volunteers to keep the event going.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: edwin on July 30, 2012, 01:15:17 AM
Hello

Can I ask why the fair, is becoming less Victorian?

I also have noted that the Steam Engines are all now parked up in one spot, on the edge of town, I heard lots of the Viewing public asking why this was, whilst attending to the engine.  In previous years there has been engines spread throughout the town, this would help it feel more victorian, as well as some of the old time rides and stalls, the hand opperated street organs, maybe even a Organ powered by a Steam Engine?  There used to be one on the Prom, but in the town it would sound awesome.

Other Question I have is why more exhibits are not parked up on the Prom, what a wonderful place to view exhibits.. vith a victorian back drop for pictures.

Don't get me wrong I love the Extravaganza, just I have been wondering the above for a while now.

Best Regards

Edwin
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on July 31, 2012, 09:24:18 PM
We have tried to make the town hall the Steam hub,but we could try and move a few more around,i think money has been an issue so there have been less organs but this year i hope to se a few more coming into town.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
A Steam Organ on the Prom was always very popular.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2012, 09:42:44 PM
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I think for what Dave Roberts does to help promote the town with this website he should be given the honour of carrying the Olympic Torch partly through Llandudno and probably past Caffe Nero.   

The problem is DaveR would refuse because he will much prefer to take photos of the event.
Just seen this comment for the first time...thanks Bri!  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Oh God....  :puke2: :puke2:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: snowcap on July 31, 2012, 09:59:04 PM
c,mon fes credit were its due
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2012, 10:02:52 PM
Maybe we should erect a solid gold 50ft high statue to him on the Prom?   :laugh:



Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
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Maybe we should erect a solid gold 50ft high statue to him on the Prom?   :laugh:
Come on now, let's not be silly. 30ft would be high enough.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2012, 10:06:10 PM
Ha ha ha....  L0L L0L

When OUR Pier plans come together, (Circa 2018) ... perhaps we will both deserve such an accolade?    ?{}?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
Todd has ensured that will not happen!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on August 28, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Been out tonite measuring up,hope to make a few changes,i hope they will be for the good.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on August 29, 2012, 07:33:48 AM
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Been out tonite measuring up,hope to make a few changes,i hope they will be for the good.

I feel a holiday coming on!    ££$ ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 15, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
I am working on trying to get a main sponsor,there are a lot of great minds on here so im wondering if any of you have any serious suggestions.as we know there are a lot of people and buisnesses who benifit so i would appreciate any suggestions,thanks.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SDQ on September 15, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
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I am working on trying to get a main sponsor,there are a lot of great minds on here so im wondering if any of you have any serious suggestions.as we know there are a lot of people and buisnesses who benifit so i would appreciate any suggestions,thanks.


Considering the location of their Llandudno shop & the type of products they sell what about approaching the Past Times company?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on September 15, 2012, 05:44:22 PM
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I am working on trying to get a main sponsor,there are a lot of great minds on here so im wondering if any of you have any serious suggestions.as we know there are a lot of people and buisnesses who benifit so i would appreciate any suggestions,thanks.


Considering the location of their Llandudno shop & the type of products they sell what about approaching the Past Times company?

Hi SDQ, I think the Past Times shop has closed down, sure it was only there for a run up to Christmas the year before last.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 05:30:05 PM
Don;t all rush at once,i only wanted a few ideas. :'(
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
It's a tricky one. The businesses that benefit the most are cafes, but are any of them big enough to fork out whatever it costs to be main sponsor? Perhaps if you had various levels of sponsorship and named the figure they needed to pay, businesses might step forward a bit more?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: dwsi on September 17, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Below is a COPY and PASTE from Gwynedd Councils
EVENT PLANNING HELP NOTES
Prepared by Gwynedd Council Events Unit
I hope this is of help of some kind

GRANTS - (Start looking for grants as soon as possible at least 9 months before your event)
Start looking for grants as soon as possible and make sure you note their deadlines and how long it will take for your application for support to be assessed.
Search thoroughly for suitable funding avenues – The event needs to find schemes with criteria matching the type of festival or event.Also remember to prepare a business plan that includes a marketing plan.
There are many bodies and charities which award grants to a wide variety of people and groups. Grant awarding bodies and trusts have to be sure that the money they may award to your event is going to be put to good use.
They will have to be sure that yours is a sound organisation with a good structure and a real understanding of what it is doing.You should have an established committee and a bank account before applying for grants. It is useful too to have a ‘business plan’ that gives the information grant awarding bodies need in a professional format, though most bodies will still ask you to fill in one of their own forms.You can also find information and templates for business plans on fs4b.wales web site.
TIP
Don’t depend on getting grants.Try to make your event self-funding, particularly if you’re thinking of running the event in future years. Simply by searching under ‘Grants’ on the Internet you may be able to find grants that could be available to your event.Any awarding body will ask to acknowledge the source of the grant on any publicity material or literature you produce.
Below are details of some organisations who either distribute information on funding or who administer grants for which you may be able to apply:-
Arts Council for Wales - Awards for All A lottery grant scheme for local communities.
Directory of Social Change (DSC)
is a good place to start looking for trusts to which you may be able to apply.The DSC produces useful Publications, such as:-
The Directory of Grant Making Trusts
A Guide to Major Trusts.Vols. 1,2 & 3.Visit their website to order these.
GRANTfinder
The UK's leading searchable database on EU and UK Government grants and loans, charitable trusts and corporate sponsors.
Gwynedd Council
find information by visiting their websites – and search under ‘grants’.
National Association for Voluntary and Community Action
Including advice, information, funding, publications, training, events, news and resources. Includes a directory of local groups throughout the UK.
National Lottery
A joint website run by all Lottery funders in the UK.This site allows you to search information on current funding programmes across the UK.
Performing Rights Society (PRS) Foundation Awards
Funding for music at festivals.
Sports Council for Wales
Grants for Sporting Events
Voluntary Arts Wales (VAW)
VAW has a detailed funding section on funding for arts activity.Through them you can also sign up to received the Voluntary Arts Network(VAN) email newsletter which includes updates on funding.They also produce a whole series of free ‘briefing’ documents which include ‘Applying to trust funds’ and ‘How to write a successful funding application’.These are useful even if you are not an arts organisation!
Welsh Council for Voluntary Action (WCVA)
The WCVA has a regular email newsletter that gives updates on available funding.
Welsh Assembly Government Major Events Unit
TheWelshAssemblyGovernment MajorEventsUnitwillconsiderfinancialsupportofmajorevents in and visiting Wales - which meet their criteria.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 08:33:46 PM
Thanks dwsi,we are in the process of trying to change to a community gr,but this will take a few months(or years) so all the info you have given may apply to meantime iwas jung to get a few new ideas,there must be some large firm who would be glad to be our main sponsor.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: dwsi on September 17, 2012, 09:26:45 PM
The Gwynedd Council booklet can be downloaded here  http://bit.ly/QgJjcX (http://bit.ly/QgJjcX)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 09:28:12 PM
Thanks dwsi
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: dwsi on September 17, 2012, 09:49:52 PM
I've done a bit more digging for you.
The Welsh Government have a major events unit which the extravaganza is definately one. There's a link to their site here :-  http://bit.ly/Pm14bL (http://bit.ly/Pm14bL)

and 2 links from the Visit Wales site  http://bit.ly/Ny9f6o (http://bit.ly/Ny9f6o) and http://bit.ly/RkSAQw (http://bit.ly/RkSAQw)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: andrewstuart on September 19, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
The main benefactors are pubs, restaurants, cafes, and anything that tourists need to keep them going. Hotels would be a good bet, as they would likely do very well. It totally depends how much you're after for a main sponser. A lot of businesses would like the exposure main sponser gives them, but may not have the funds available. One thing may be to split it up. Main sponser for one day would split the cost into thirds? You could try Asda or any big major retailers in the retail parks, but my guess is they hardly see the benefit, being quite far out.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Thanks for your input Andrew.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on September 20, 2012, 12:53:13 AM
I wouldn't bother approaching the Pier management, they hate the extravaganza with a passion, (wrongly in my view)

But, during the Extravaganza last year, I couldn't move in Wetherspoons, Fountains Bar, or The Carlton.
Every one of them was packed out so much that I could not get served.

Also, maybe the likes of Caffe Nero have a marketing budget they could dip into?  Its a major chain after all.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 20, 2012, 07:33:08 AM
Thanks Fester,all on my list now.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on November 03, 2012, 07:38:33 AM
Very sad news at the death of David Price our town crier,he was a brilliant worker for our event and will be sadly missed by all.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on December 12, 2012, 07:34:01 AM
Omg its that time of year when i forget about xmas lights and start to think extravaganza,i do still think why i spend so much of my time doing it,its not for the applause i assure you,i know deep down i do love to see the town busy and it does give our children one weekend when they can really look forward to going to town,i think its not until the Monday teatime comes along that you can sit back and say,yes that was worth it,because of the weather and isks that the weekend is not so enjoyable for a handful of us,this weekend i have to attend a traffic management course,nobody is forceing me but i would love togo xmas shopping with the rest of you,anyway here is t 2013 and lets hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
Cheers Wrex!   ...and more power to you, (and the Extravaganza)  ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Yes, well done, Wrex, I've seen how hard you work that Weekend.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on December 25, 2012, 09:55:15 PM
Well we head into 2013 with the good news that the prom day has at last been moved out of competition with our event ,for this year at least.It will help the operators of the funfair on the Monday to take more money,like it or not its their rent that keeps the event ticking and will help us to continue,we are trying to improve but its hard with the manpower we have to cover all aspects fully,but we keep trying.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on December 30, 2012, 12:07:38 AM
Somebody asked me if i was being paid for doing the Extravaganza,they had heard some where,the answer is not a bean,nobody gets paid anymore,the chairman that resigned last January was but noone is anymore im glad to say. $thanx$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on January 05, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
    i've just spent an hour or so searching around all the websites covering the extravaganza, and in particular the Extravaganza street parade. However I haven't come up with the information I was after. So, here goes, I know that several TTF members will know the answer.
    The parade, the one that takes off around midday on Sunday and Monday and usually goes along Madoc Street. Someone dressed in more or less victorian costume, do they need permission and/or approval before joining in, or do they just turn up and enter as and when appropriate?
    Obviously the mega big entrants, steam engines, morris dancers etc must have to make contact beforehand with someone. But I was thinking more of an individual, a stilt walker or similar?  Also, hhrrrmmm, who much, or how little, or even none at all.  The dreaded "advertisement"  Can any member point me in the right direction.  Mike
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
I believe anyone who turns up in a Victorian outfit at the start of the Parade can join in, free of charge.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 05, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Correct Dave,
My wife and daughter were togged up in Victorian dresses a couple of years ago, and were encouraged to join in the parade.
The more the merrier it seems.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 06, 2013, 08:32:46 AM
Quote
Obviously the mega big entrants, steam engines, morris dancers etc must have to make contact beforehand with someone.

I wonder if most folk know that many of them are paid?  The big engines have to have their coal bought for them, the stilt walkers, etc.  tend to be given actual cash payments. The vintage vehicles who are part of the Transport Festival tend to simply turn up and join in - 'cos they enjoy it :-) But the parade was always one of the costlier elements of the weekend.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 06, 2013, 10:30:50 AM
Thank you for your interest Ormegolf and yes all are welcome in the parade it helps our cause and the parade,all you need to do is turn up and wait for Mr Kevin Chin to tell you when and where to join the parade.Ian you are bang on about the payments,all entertainers need paying  along with the marching bands,the traction engines,police,ambulance,street cleaning etc,etc ,any body can sponsor an engine for £300 which includes your name on the engine for the weekend and to ride in the parade on your engine.Help is the name of the game,financial,physical and mental(me) so don;t hesitate to get involved.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on January 06, 2013, 03:57:38 PM
I have walked in the parade every year in Victorian Dress--just turn up and join in. Most people are chatty and you meet the same folks year in and year out.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 06, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
What is the insurance arrangements for the parade?   Presuming that cover has to be taken out  for all those taking part, surely the organisers would have to declare the names of all participants.   Of course I stand to be corrected.   WWW 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 06, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
Public Liability Insurance, I imagine. It's not like you need the name & address of everyone who enters a shop, for example, is it?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on January 06, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
  Wrex, please don't thank me for my interest---its the other way around, I should be thanking you. As always I've got self interest in my query.
  However, rather than just turning up as a complete surprise, I think my honest side forces me to write about my vague plan.
  Ive got a small one wheel tailer which attaches on to the back of a push bike, vintage, 3 wheeler, whatever. On this trailer is a proper fixed steel attachment which holds a fairly small advertising banner. My idea:--Me, dressed up in a fancy dress as a victorian golfer (there are such things) on the bike and a photo of my golf course with just the title of the place---nothing else, no phone numbers, nothing.
  The size of the banner is roughly 2foot six by about 6 feet high.  Mike
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on January 06, 2013, 08:56:36 PM
   I just thought I had better add this bit on. I wouldn't even THINK of attempting anything like this if I had any business opposition, because of possible complaints. But I hav'ent any. The big clubs would fall over laughing at the idea. I am on friendly terms with both the local crazy golf operators and I am sure they would not be bothered. And local putting greens are a different thing altogether.  Mike
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 06, 2013, 09:13:18 PM
Your entrepreneurial genius knows no bounds, Sir!   :golf:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on January 07, 2013, 03:30:37 PM
 Fester, that's a bloody good word, ----- that enterpris oh entrapre oh you know what I mean, if only I could spell it Mike
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 17, 2013, 07:45:31 AM
We have had a good responce from our sponsorship letters sent out to every hotel and guest houses and its nice to recieve some letters thanking us for what we do,some people still think the council run it and they can;t believe we get nothing out of doing it besides getting the satisfaction of seeing the town busy,thank you for your support.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 21, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
If you saw how Britain was built which was a brilliant advert for Llandudno you will have seen the slip being repaired then built on the prom,well im glad to say it will reappear on Mostyn st in may,we also have a couple of new bands appearing this year in the parade,still waiting to find out what the Alice group are doing this year but we will work together if required.The parade will leave outside the Albert at 1pm each day and will go back to Deganwy ave route.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
Hopefully we will have an Irish band marching this year. $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
Im glad to say that there will be two specials in Llandudno on the Saturday of the extravaganza,one a steam train from Tydsley and one a diesel from Cambridge which is already sold out,so it is nice to know we are doing something right ,i just hope the town gets behind us.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 27, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
Good work, Wrex  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 27, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
Thanks Dave,we are busy sorting the funfair,entertainment,organising the steam,road closures,collecters license,street licence,the programme,advertising,planning so we can put the banners up,so as you see Dave there is loads to do and somepeople wonder why we ask for donations and help,baffles me ,but my main satisfaction comes when you see the local kids enjoying their town for one weekend of the year.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
Website up and running now. www.victorian-extravaganza.com (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.com).
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 30, 2013, 05:30:01 PM
Wrex:  there's some place holder text still in place Under 'testimonials' , and some ropey justification in the top LH side text under Come One Come All.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on January 31, 2013, 09:05:12 AM
The countdown is partially obliterated .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 09, 2013, 03:48:20 PM
There should be two new bands on display this year,the royal lancashire fusiliers on the Saturday and the liverpool pipe and drum band on the Sunday and Monday.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 09, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
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The countdown is partially obliterated .

Not on my calendar  it ain't!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 08:46:26 AM
I am trying to organise a steam gathering on the friday night outside the lilly on the West shore,i thought this would kick of the event and be a good photo oppertunity,hope it comes off.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2013, 09:10:40 AM
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I am trying to organise a steam gathering on the friday night outside the lilly on the West shore,i thought this would kick of the event and be a good photo oppertunity,hope it comes off.
Yorkie has promised to come along and generate some hot air.  :laugh:

Seriously, good idea, Wrex, hope it does come off.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
Please let us know the time later Wrex. Tks
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
If it comes about Nemisis it will be between 6 30 and 8,if its a nice evening it could be a good start to the weekend.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2013, 11:33:15 AM
Sounds a great idea to me.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 17, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
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Yorkie has promised to come along and generate some hot air.  :laugh:


I would not even attempt to exceed your own powers in this respect and will be pleased to leave you in charge of the firing, stoking and total steam generation - I would however suggest that you have your boiler certified prior to lighting the fire!   After, of course, checking that you are allowed to play with matches!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2013, 09:05:18 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 24, 2013, 12:16:55 PM
Sorry i made a mistake the lancashire fisiliers will be in the parade and playing in the Arena on the Sunday and not the saturday,there are at least 60 in the band and will look impressive leading the parade,remember this year it will be leaving from the Albert hotel at 1pm ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2013, 08:13:43 AM
Just been checking availability for the weekend of the event,been on lots of sites and lots of hotels are full already with 8 weeks to go,really glad the hoteliers get this weekend to kick start their season.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 21, 2013, 07:21:58 AM
Book your weekend away because its coming.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 28, 2013, 08:11:03 AM
Programmes are out and available in the tourist office for £1 ,we have had to bring the price down due to the times which is not a good reflection on the event,i personally think there is not enought people who want the event to carry on,it does bring people in but we cannot change anything without the help of the people who benefit,i really think its hard to explain to the tourist trade that we are doing it for them and the town and not ourselves,the responsibility is enourmous and the support is dyeing,until we call it a day,people will not give us a hand.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 28, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
Well Wrex, I don't benefit from it financially, but I love it nonetheless.

As usual, I have several members of the Fester clan booked in for the Extravaganza weekend, they all spend like sailors on shore leave, (especially my Mum) ... and the hotels, charities and stalls will all benefit immensely.


Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 01, 2013, 07:43:16 PM
Thanks Fester,do you think the Hospitality assoc should run the event as they may beable to get some support.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 02, 2013, 04:54:53 PM
Oh poo,Oscar has a little piece on Cartrefi donating towards the Extravaganza ,all i can say is thank god they did because not many tourist buissnesses have,not lloking good for next year,maybe Maggie is right.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 03, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
Somebody is spouting off on Oscar,true words but you just know we are going to get blasted as a bunch of moaning individuals,i just wish those who do make would thank and help.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 13, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
Some good comments on Oscar and of course a few negative but i think this comment sums it all up   ;m.rydo
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 13, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
Some good comments on Oscar, but as usual, a few negatives. This post sums up the extravaganza:
"Re: the "Great Unwashed", they were Victorians as well, you know? They were people who lived during the reign of Queen Victoria. Ergo, they have as much of a right to be represented in any attempt to portray the history of that time, alongside the usual lot with bonnetts, top-hats, pocket watches and waistcoats. Sartoriolly admirable as the upper classes may have been at the time, they weren't the be-all and end-all!

Regarding everything with the 'Ganza itself, the poor organisers (much like many groups organising things in the N. Wales area) are in the wonderful position of "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't". The big, more modern rides, such as the waltzers, whirlers, ghost trains, madly spinning gyroscopes and others are of course popular with young people and bring in footfall. The hook-a-duck stalls, hooplah, coconut shies follow in their wake. Now many think of these as being nothing more than glorified, gypsy-run (Apologies for being a tad unPC!!) dross, with flashing bulbs and pop music designed to wow people. I don't buy into that, they fill a much-needed gap, and are perefectly acceptable in a fairground setting.

The rides like helter skelters and carousels, which are seen to embody the Victorian asthetic, add in the aura of the times, not to mention the pipe organs, steamrollers and Victorian parades, with people in all the get-up aforementioned get up. But the simple fact of the matter is you're not going to attract thousands of people to have a look at a nice organ (har har!)or some people in 19th century dress, however nice and well-intentioned the volunteers may be. You will of course get enthusiasts and that's fine, but to bring in the massive amounts of tourists, you need a modern day fairground, as such, the Extravaganza has to be both.

The bugbear, as has been mentioned, is how much people ought to contribute to it, and the varying degress to which they do. Shops can counter that far from being an encouragement to footfall, the Extravaganza actually blocks up either side of Mostyn Street, confining people to the road where the rides are located, and actually hamper their efforts. I worked in town once during the Extravaganza, and we saw a drop in custom due to the sheer "blockage" caused by the crowd. Moreover, it took me half an hour to nip down the road for a sandwich!

A great comparison to the extravaganza is the pier - Victorian setting and ethos but with modern rides, arcades and shops; plenty of people visiting; plenty of shops paying rates. And big attraction to the town as well.

So - in summation; Victorian or not? Arguments to be made either way. And is it an ill-funded major tourist event which brings thousands to the town and thereby ought to receive cash from traders? Or is it a massive, annual multi-way b****r up for traffic, which stops shoppers from coming in to the town, and doesn't encourage visitors to spend their own money in the shops, thereby rendering it unworthy of contribution from businesses? "
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on April 13, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
   THAT is a marvellous post. Well thought out, well written. As to the question at the end. Equally well thought out and written. I DON'T KNOW
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on April 14, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
 &well&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 19, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
Well its nearly upon us again,we had a meeting to just go over the final arrangements last nite,all seems in order,steam  traction engines ordered,organs ordered,bands ordered,entertainment ordered,programmes out,volunteers still sort, so all we need now is some sunshine.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on April 19, 2013, 09:00:33 AM
Brought a copy of the official programme yesterday, very well designed and top quality  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 30, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
Just been trying to get a room for 3 nights this weekend,it would appear that Beaumaris seems the closest,the Grand has a few costing £300 pound a night,ha.I do hope a few hotels express their gratituded for the effort it taken us to fill their rooms.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Hugo on May 02, 2013, 03:04:04 PM
Good luck to you Wrex and all the others who put so much time and hard work into the event,    The weather forecast is good for the weekend so I hope that everything goes well and that it is another successful Extravaganza for everyone,       $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 02, 2013, 04:26:29 PM
Yes good luck indeed and isn't it great to have a good news story for a change!  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 02, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
Thank you both.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: snowcap on May 03, 2013, 12:56:34 AM
the wife and i were travelling back today along the 55 and she was pointing out all the different show pieces making there way to Llandudno for the big show, you never think about the distances these attractions have to travel, but thanks to you and your colleges it all does for a great weekend. you deserve the good weather i hope it,s a great success for you all.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 08:58:53 AM
I'm just having breakfast in Caffe Nero and its fascinating to see all the various rides being set up.

Wrex and all the other volunteers do a fantastic job in organising it all.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: coastal taff on May 04, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Just tried to board two Arriva trains in the last half hour , both full. On enquiring why they are using only two carriage trains when the extravaganza is on , the answer was "What extravaganza"?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
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Just tried to board two Arriva trains in the last half hour , both full. On enquiring why they are using only two carriage trains when the extravaganza is on , the answer was "What extravaganza"?
Oh dear, hope you managed to get here in the end!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on May 04, 2013, 02:53:01 PM
Could swear I've just seen Ormegolf in Victorian golfing attire pushing a bicycle in the parade.  Very smart he looked to in his plus fours  8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 03:05:18 PM
Pity I missed him-- bet you didn't spot Nemesis dressed as a pearly queen ! :o
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 04, 2013, 03:18:08 PM
I did and Mike was not far behind you pushing his bike.

You both were a credit to the forum.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 04, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Any photos? Would love to see them.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 04, 2013, 03:42:41 PM
I was too busy talking to Nem but I did manage to catch Mike.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
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I did and Mike was not far behind you pushing his bike.

You both were a credit to the forum.  ZXZ

Thanks Bri.
 I am always amazed how people, myself included can cobble together costumes from bits and pieces, begged, borrowed or bought ! Some of the bits I have are donkey's years old ;D
I believe some of the 'posh' ladies actually have the underpinnings to go with their costumes. Think I should fall over if someone laced me into a corset  :o
The crowds today were great-- we had lots of waves, claps and cheers. Makes it all worthwhile.
As for photos, there seemed to be hundreds of people popping up with cameras.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
Here's Mike:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on May 04, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
Thanks both. Love Mike's big grin in Bri's photo!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
After a cloudy start, the weather picked up and the crowds were out in force:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8413/8706646047_d6cb5504f9_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706646047/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706646047/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 06:29:20 PM
More photos from today's Extravaganza:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8262/8707855736_56d03c39dc_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707855736/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707855736/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8707854932_96880be2f3_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854932/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854932/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8255/8707854070_39ee48c27c_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854070/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854070/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8706734481_a98d2726f8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706734481/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706734481/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8277/8706730191_f6d13633e9_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706730191/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706730191/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8263/8707856016_aab04176f8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707856016/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707856016/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Jack on May 04, 2013, 09:46:21 PM
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Pity I missed him-- bet you didn't spot Nemesis dressed as a pearly queen ! :o

I've no idea what you look like Nem but I will look out for you tomorrow!

I wouldn't know what Mike looks like except for the trailer that gave it away somewhat  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 04, 2013, 10:45:58 PM
  Plus the plasters stuck on me after I'd fallen off the bike a few times
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 04, 2013, 11:16:12 PM
Some pics from the chilly Transport Festival

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1020084_zpsa582718b.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/penrhynpigeons/media/P1020084_zpsa582718b.jpg.html)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1020100_zps61101427.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/penrhynpigeons/media/P1020100_zps61101427.jpg.html)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1020095_zpsc8838e73.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/penrhynpigeons/media/P1020095_zpsc8838e73.jpg.html)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1020080_zps94639209.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/penrhynpigeons/media/P1020080_zps94639209.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 08:19:57 AM
Nice photos, Andy.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 05, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
They are.  And you avoided getting your own reflection in the car with fins...
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: TheMedz on May 05, 2013, 06:13:32 PM
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I was too busy talking to Nem but I did manage to catch Mike.
Can't wait to see Mike coming up the Orme on the bike in the picture. I'll have the oxygen cylenders waiting. :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
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Nice photos, Andy.  $good$
Cheers Dave and Ian, the paint on the black car was amazing! 8)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 05, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
  Hello TheMedz. Never mind the oxygen, a glass to three of your excellent wine will do fine thanks
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: snowcap on May 07, 2013, 12:10:28 AM
great weather for a great shown well done wrex and all the people who help put it together, there were a lot of happy faces in Dave,s great photo,s of the show and it,s all down to the great time and effort put in by so many dedicated workers, Looking fallward to the next one ,keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 07, 2013, 12:45:36 AM
Utterly Superb Wrex..... My family loved it, and the Town was heaving.

A brilliantly managed event.     The best so far, long may it continue.   

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 &well& &well& &well& &well& &well& &well& &well& &well& &well& &well&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2013, 07:16:46 AM
Yes it was excellent, many big well dones to those concerned!  $good$ &well& &well&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 07, 2013, 07:21:29 AM
Thank you all,the support is appreciated. ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2013, 10:27:35 AM
Very well done, Wrex, you and the rest of the team did a fantastic job. Never seen the town so busy. Let's hope all the local businesses remember the extra trade they've received and make a donation towards next year's event.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM
Couple more photos:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8277/8706730191_f6d13633e9_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706730191/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706730191/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8137/8711403826_5b4bb53af2_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8711403826/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8711403826/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8549/8711404480_1bf399dec7_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8711404480/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8711404480/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8710281645_a374d05c35_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710281645/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710281645/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8548/8710282065_5642bb2634_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710282065/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710282065/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8408/8710282579_5808e25b16_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710282579/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710282579/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8706734481_a98d2726f8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706734481/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8706734481/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8707854932_96880be2f3_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854932/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8707854932/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Cordyline on May 07, 2013, 11:55:27 AM
Super photos there Dave !!   $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2013, 04:01:30 PM
Have been asked by a lady from West Shore to post how wonderful she thought the Extravaganza had been, how well organised and busy it was. The best ever.

Many people who patronised the Charity Shop where I was helping yesterday came in and said how they had enjoyed themselves-- some were booking up ready for next year. One lady from Barnsley didn't even know the event was on until she walked out and into everything. ( Some bad publicity people in that hotel) She was thrilled to bits and said she felt part of the whole thing , even though she was only watching.

So------ well done and thankyou to everyone concerned.

And yes I was there again on Sunday Jack, but I worked dressed up on Monday afternoon !
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2013, 11:37:38 AM
We where so lucky with the weather last weekend,proves somebody up there loves us.We will soon be putting out leaflets asking for donations towards next years event while its still in their minds how much they made last weekend,i hope for bthe sake of the event ,the hoteliers,cafe owners,restaurant owners,pub landlords and shops respond because although i do it for the town,local kids etc it will be disshearting if the response is poor,wish us good luck.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on May 11, 2013, 11:59:57 AM
Wrex, may I suggest that you set up an "online" donation facility.  This can be linked from your Web Site and people can donate 24/7, 365 days of the year.   It is used by many Charities and by individuals seeking sponsorship.   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2013, 12:58:06 PM
What sponsorship opportunities are available for next year? Why not listed the various options /costs on here and it may encourage more local businesses to participate?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 11, 2013, 01:20:04 PM
Dave R  fantastic photo,s would it be possible to use them on the Extravaganza facebook page as they do the event such justice   $walesflag$ $thanx$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2013, 07:01:00 PM
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Dave R  fantastic photo,s would it be possible to use them on the Extravaganza facebook page as they do the event such justice   $walesflag$ $thanx$
Hi, yes, feel free to use them on the FB page or website, anywhere you like. Would you like me to add them in or can you do it?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 12, 2013, 11:27:58 AM
Thanks DaveR ,i shall wake the event co-ordinator up now to answer your question.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 12, 2013, 11:38:21 AM
Dave R have posted some but it long task as i have to save etc would be grateful if you could post some then i can approve and display them !!! thanks Wrex for Disclosing my identity  :rage:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 12, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
Local newspaper prints lovely picture of all traction engines in paper under title transport festival steam parade Grrrrrrrrh makes me mad  the transport festival has nothing to do with the extravaganza, it is a completely separate event that charges to enter.
The steam attractions cost the extravaganza in the region of £20 thousand pound and we rely on local sponsorship and donations from visitor enjoying the event but when the paper keeps getting it wrong it makes our job hard as we cannot convince people we are not council run (they give us £3000 then charge us that for street cleaning and we don't provide food!!)
So to clear up any misunderstandings the event is run by unpaid volunteers, who give their time freely to put on this event which is funded by fairground rent, program sponsorship/ sales and public donations it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRANSPORT FESTIVAL AND IT IS NOT COUNCIL FUNDED/RUN
it is done by a FEW for the MANY to ENJOY
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 12, 2013, 11:00:49 PM
Mrs F...

Never in the field of human entertainment, has so MUCH been done for so MANY, by so FEW..... for so LITTLE!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 12, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
Very good Fester, I've heard that before somewhere?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 13, 2013, 07:46:01 AM
Ever thought of being a poet Mr Fester,anyway when is the Lily grill and bar opening.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 08:17:31 AM
Be a week or two yet. The whole place is undergoing a deep clean, apparently.

Looks like it'll be a battle between the Lilly Bar & Grill and Dr. Jones' Bar & Grill as to which one opens first.  ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 08:18:32 AM
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Local newspaper prints lovely picture of all traction engines in paper under title transport festival steam parade Grrrrrrrrh makes me mad  the transport festival has nothing to do with the extravaganza, it is a completely separate event that charges to enter.
The steam attractions cost the extravaganza in the region of £20 thousand pound and we rely on local sponsorship and donations from visitor enjoying the event but when the paper keeps getting it wrong it makes our job hard as we cannot convince people we are not council run (they give us £3000 then charge us that for street cleaning and we don't provide food!!)
So to clear up any misunderstandings the event is run by unpaid volunteers, who give their time freely to put on this event which is funded by fairground rent, program sponsorship/ sales and public donations it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRANSPORT FESTIVAL AND IT IS NOT COUNCIL FUNDED/RUN
it is done by a FEW for the MANY to ENJOY
And you all do an excellent job!  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Whilst wandering along the Prom during the Extravaganza, I was struck by how many people were enjoying the Fairground Organ that was playing by the Cenotaph.

I thought to myself....why can't the Town Council pay to hire the Organ to play on the Prom during the peak weekends in the Summer? I'm sure it would be very popular with visitors and bring a little more life to the Prom.

Here it is in action:
98 Key Southsea Atkinson Gavioli at Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6pnr_MFCM#)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8710281645_a374d05c35_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710281645/)
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8710281645/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 13, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
It would be popular although I have to confess I'm not a fan of that music!

Some more pics from this year, now that they are easier to put on!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 13, 2013, 11:34:41 PM
The amazing Mr Alexander!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 14, 2013, 08:15:22 PM
Well i heard this evening that a certain chip shop in the middle of town did 3,000 fish over the weekend,remind me again why i do this.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 14, 2013, 08:26:31 PM
Wrex we both know why we do it!!!its not for the chips  :P :P :P :P $walesflag$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 15, 2013, 12:02:55 AM
.......... just keep doing it, (please)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 15, 2013, 07:35:42 AM
Its hard Fester when you realise how much some are making and you don;t get as much as a thank you, i will list the supporters on here soon,just so everyone knows who helps.
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2013, 07:53:50 AM
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Its hard Fester when you realise how much some are making and you don;t get as much as a thank you, i will list the supporters on here soon,just so everyone knows who helps.
That's a good idea.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 15, 2013, 08:17:39 AM
I thought the names of supporters were also printed in the Programme.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 15, 2013, 11:50:20 AM
lots are Ian,but for excample,the lads from the town house gave us two cheques one for each pub over the weekend,if all the others did this we would be laughing
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 15, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
Yes, of course;  spontaneous donations are always a problem to include.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2013, 02:16:41 PM
  I've got a nasty feeling that I could make a good guess at some of the businesses that took a lot of money and never even bothered a thankyou
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 15, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
Do you mean the one who sold 3,ooo fish over the weekend Ormegolf,yet told me he does;nt make any extra over the weekend,some people just like to whind others up,you just have to ignore him.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on May 15, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
I won't buy anything from that chippy on a point of principle.  &shake&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2013, 10:56:06 PM
 If the extravaganza has a collection box, don't ask that business to chip in. It might be cold and greasy
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 28, 2013, 06:44:32 PM
I have just read a few bad comments on Oscar left by somebody knocking Gaynor Baker the event co-ordinator,its a very sad situation when a person hides their identity saying such things,if Gaynor has upset one person im sure she would love to apologies,one thing i will say is the event is only running because of Gaynor and Barney giving their all,there are plenty of us who do our bit but those two go well beyond to put a brilliant show on as just proved,so it appears somebody may be rather jealous of their success.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 29, 2013, 05:34:14 PM
Gareth thanks for defending me your are a great friend and like myself and Barney very passionate about the Extravaganza As you  know it has been a while since my last walk out!! so it seems strange that the person has waited till now to voice their views about me so publicly :-[   the committee votes on a lot of issues and their are quite a few strong willed people in the room so as for my way or no way comment that's Strange we all have opinions and with the chairman and vice chair they keep us all in check lol    I AM VERY UPSET  that someone has called me AYOTOLAH publicly and anonymously that is not fair, I thought everyone in the room was a friend please at least tell me to my face your problems and lets see if we can resolve the situation
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 12:40:16 PM
We are still looking for new younger blood to join,as we have seen with Broadway ,nothing is safe so we need to look to the future if this event is to remain.Not sure if we have got it right yet or people have given up moaning about .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on October 12, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
Right its that time again when i start meeting funfair operators to disscuss positions etc,but do any of you have any suggestions besides scrap ing it,moving on the prom blah,blah,i like to keep things a little different every year just so its not the same but it can be difficult so if you have any ideas,quality that is let me know.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bellringer on October 12, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
Would be grateful if the rear entrance at Holy Trinity Church could be left unobstructed by any of the rides ..... please.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on October 12, 2013, 12:01:39 PM
Sorry Bellringer,that was the plan but as it was the last ride to go up i was tucked up in bed when they decided they would build the ride in the wrong position,yes maybe i should have been there all night but i give enought time as it is without me losing my beauty sleep lol.I can tell you there will be no mistakes this year.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on October 12, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
   The last two posts made for pleasant reading, I might add for a change.

   The first, a reasonable request made in a friendly non aggressive manner.

    The second a polite response and a reasonable explanation of what happened in the past and what was planned for the future.

   Oh if only all topics were conducted in this manner  Mike
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bellringer on October 12, 2013, 10:32:34 PM
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Sorry Bellringer,that was the plan but as it was the last ride to go up i was tucked up in bed when they decided they would build the ride in the wrong position,yes maybe i should have been there all night but i give enought time as it is without me losing my beauty sleep lol.I can tell you there will be no mistakes this year.

Thanks Wrex.

As you know access is required not only for church people doing things on the premises but also for bodies such as the St John's Ambulance.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Minime on October 13, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
We go lymm dickensian which is in december each year.  Schools all get involved and dress up in victorian clobber, santa comes throwing sweets, always well attended and something rather nice getting a hot choc with truffle :)
The local scouts make xmas wreaths, a few local craft traders etc
Obviously llandudnos is in may which hopefully is warmer.  Lymm do a festival around june and one of the things is the scarecrows.  You register (for small fee) & put it on display then people buy a map for a quid and it shows you the locations of them all which is good fun.
Anything goes really so you might see sponge bob up a tree.

I also agree with the previous comment of the victorian organ or puppet show for the kids on the prom or in one of the parks.
Pwllheli do a raft race, ive seen upturned reliant robins racing before now and thats well attended

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on October 13, 2013, 11:29:59 PM
Wrex, serious suggestion... the Victorian Wrestling Booth about 3 years ago was fantastic and well attended.

It was certainly in keeping with the Victorian tradition,  is it still doing the rounds?   Could it be brought back?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2013, 07:31:59 AM
It could but we had to pay for them to bring it,now of course sponsorship could be sort but its a case of finding somebody with plenty of spare time and who is good at approaching local buisnesses,that is the problem.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on October 14, 2013, 08:38:55 AM
Something a lot of people don't realise is just how much of the Extravaganza has to be paid for by the organising committee. Might be worth putting last year's accounts in here, Wrex.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Will do as soon as their sorted.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on October 15, 2013, 09:25:22 AM
I think what might help is a list of attractions & potential attractions on the website, together with a specific sponsorship amount next to it.

So, something like:

Fester's Wrestling Booth - Sponsorship Cost £500

Then, both organisations and maybe individuals could see exactly what was needed, making it easier for all concerned.

As a matter of interest, Wrex, do you have a rough amount needed to bring the wrestling booth back?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on October 15, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
Will find out Dave
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
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Will find out Dave
Cheers, mate.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 11, 2014, 03:06:27 PM
Now the hard work starts sorting out this years event,we are desperate for some young blood,it can;t last much longer without younger members with fresh ideas and plenty of get up and go.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 11, 2014, 09:43:41 PM
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Now the hard work starts sorting out this years event,we are desperate for some young blood,it can;t last much longer without younger members with fresh ideas and plenty of get up and go.

You are probably THE youngest member of this Forum.   But, I cannae wait for the Extravaganza!  ZXZ Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 12, 2014, 09:03:38 AM
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Now the hard work starts sorting out this years event,we are desperate for some young blood,it can;t last much longer without younger members with fresh ideas and plenty of get up and go.

What about us old Codgers, who have years of experience of dealing with all sorts of matters?   Consigned to the Scrap Heap?  Think again Wrex, maybe you have your priorities wrong, or are just a little mis-guided.  There is no substitute for experience, and plenty of older people still have the enthusiasm and fire in their bellies to take on a difficult task and see it through! 
 :rage:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2014, 11:05:51 AM
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t can;t last much longer without younger members with fresh ideas and plenty of get up and go

They've been saying much the same thing for the past 24 years, Wrex :-)) One problem is the Extravaganza doesn't appeal to younger folk. Another is that younger folk have less time to spare.

But here's an idea: instead of making a blanket appeal for "younger members with fresh ideas" why doesn't the committee draw up a precise list of jobs that need doing? Then you simply ask for people to do those jobs and - as long as you have a decently designed job description - you might get lucky and find some younger folk to do them.

But the 'fresh ideas' thing is a bit of a loss-leader, since just about every idea has been tried in one form or another. There are people you need - I agree - but they are those with specific skill-sets, such as writing (for the programme composition), sales (for the advertising revenue), finance (for the accounting aspects), liaison and communication (for the Police, Council, Fairground, Parade), Management (possibly the most crucial, since a lot of unpaid people with an eclectic mix of attitudes and abilities need managing to get the best out of them), performance  (for the on-street performers), Health and Safety..I could go on, but I'm sure you get the gist.

There's also a depressing pattern to committee meetings which I'm sure you've noticed. At the outset, a lot of folk turn up, brimming with enthusiasm and ideas. As the reality bites, with the multiple issues that seem to conspire to prevent implementation of ideas, there's a significant drop-off in attendance and by the time of the eventual event, it's surprising how it all seems to come down to the same small group. It's not unique to the Extravaganza, of course; that same pattern exists within just about every voluntary society. But it's still a problem.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2014, 12:11:52 PM
Yorkie i will put your name on the list,i never new you cared .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 12, 2014, 12:59:05 PM
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Yorkie i will put your name on the list,i never new you cared .

Wrex, I am sure that by now you know that I am not a supporter of the Extravaganza in its present form.  I would like to see a move back about 20 years to the original concept of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza.  Other personal interests and commitments also prevent me from being a regular member of any committee.  Therefore, whilst I appreciate your putting my name forward, I will be unable to offer other than my usual support.
 :D   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Barney Baker on January 12, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
In reply to Yorkie's response and everybody else's it is not necessarily young people we are after but new and physically able committee members who are capable of hard physical work over the whole weekend I start at 06:30 am and do not normally finish until 9pm and also those dark winter night when Wrex goes out to measure the roads and positions for the rides, if Yorkie feels he has the time and enthusiasm he is more than welcome, and as he is not a supporter that makes it even better as his experience and feeling of the whole event could be put to better use.

and taking the event back to its roots would require removing the single biggest financial income the event has ie the fair ground rides they pay for the majority of the event some 75-85%

as with all the comments on the forum ie why not have this or do that.......at the end of the day this event is always run by the core members who are volunteers and every year there are more legalities to deal with, health and safety, police, ambulance , insurance, council permissions, car parks to man, programme sellers, who can go  where, emergency route, evacuation procedures for fire, Flood, bomb alerts, missing children certificates and procedure, as you can see the list is endless

so be kind to dear old Wrex, come along and help us
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
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as with all the comments on the forum ie why not have this or do that.......at the end of the day this event is always run by the core members who are volunteers and every year there are more legalities to deal with

Indeed there are. Which is why it might make sense to try defining the specific jobs you need doing. People are often taken aback when they're expected or asked to do all sorts of things, but if they see a clearly defined job description at the outset it can make a lot of difference.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2014, 04:33:44 PM
Help with keeping the stages running smoothly.Stewards for the parade.Programme sellers.Collectors for Mostyn st and the promenade.Barrier stewards.Ian these are a few things we could always do with extra bodies  with,just to name a few,i will get my full list together,thanks.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2014, 04:48:15 PM
I'm pretty sure the NWWN will run a  little article for you outlining exactly what sorts of help you need.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2014, 07:36:11 PM
Judith is very good with the extravaganza,we could do a person who encourages local people and groups to dress up,Nemesis always turns up but the more the merrier.We could do with a person going round all buisnesses asking for donations,their views,it is the one job that is hard to fill,anyway i shall get a list made up at the next meeting and put it too Judith to see what she thinks,cheers Ian.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 12, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
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We could do with a person going round all buisnesses asking for donations,

To be perfectly honest, wrex, different people used to call annually into my office in C-y-D and I always supported the event with an advert even when it was highly unlikely my business would ever benefit financially from the Extravaganza, as you well know.

Then one day, I bought a programme during the Extravaganza weekend and noticed just how many large businesses in town did not have an advert in it at all when they each must have increased their takings that weekend by several thousands pounds.

Needless to say that was the last time I contributed.

This is just some feedback from a past financial supporter.

Perhaps, you need to approach the large retailers now rather than the towards end of April.

Good luck.  ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2014, 09:01:07 AM
It's always been extraordinarily difficult getting the big businesses to contribute. That's a crucial job, and requires someone of tenacity, an outgoing personality, intelligence and charm who's also prepared to work every day for about three months, visiting the premises and confronting the senior manager in person.

Generally, it's work better done by a woman, since most managers are male and women are simply better at getting men to do their bidding, as it were. In the beginning the method was to 'phone every business in town to make an appointment, as they'll ignore letters. Then the person in question had to actually go to the business to meet the boss. It has to be the boss, because they're usually the only ones who can make the decision.  They're also the person least likely to be available when  you arrive for the appointment.

As you rightly point out, Bri, your business was never going to benefit directly from the Extravaganza, and many businesses will use that argument to deny contributions. The task of the fundraiser is to convince the Manager that any contribution not only helps the event in the short term, but publicises the business, makes a long term contribution to Llandudno as a community and  - by helping attract more and more visitors to the town - can only work well for any business in the end.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 13, 2014, 10:19:55 AM
Thanks Ian,now all we need is that person.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
I can think of two in here who would be perfect...
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
The other thing to bear in mind when soliciting funds is to prioritise the businesses, going first to those who will get a positive benefit and working down to those who will benefit least.   This way you should be able to get the maximum result without wasting time.

One small point, some businesses who may not benefit directly, are sometimes very generous with donations!  Here I would specifically include Building Companies, Utilities and other large Companies outside of the retail sector.

 ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 20, 2014, 09:33:18 PM
I have been in touch with the papers and hope we get some response,the event needs new blood if it is to continue.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 22, 2014, 09:54:34 AM
How about employing these people to contact every business in Llandudno on a commission basis?

http://theprofessionalfundraiser.co.uk/ (http://theprofessionalfundraiser.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2014, 08:48:47 AM
Not sure where we go after this years event,i think a few of the hard workers are leaving so it will be very hard to continue.I don;t think there was any response from last weeks appeal in the press which does tell us that there is little interest in it.We all know the good and bad of the event and maybe it has run its course,i for one will not be glad to see it dissappear but you can only do so much,we do get support from local buissnesses but we need that one person who could approach them all and explain why we need 100% on this event.As long as i can remember no buissness has ever come along to us after the event and said thank you for putting the event on,we have had a fantastic weekend the hotel has been packed or you could;nt get a seat  or the till has;nt stopped ringing here is a Donation towards next year,it never happens,we always are expected to go cap in hand and beg,unless we say we are in a mess and next years event is in danger,WELL i think it is and maybe time has caught up with Llandudno.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 30, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Has anyone actually carried out a survey and asked the Townsfolk and Businesses what they ACTUALLY think of the Extravaganza?   You could be in for a surprise!   

 ££$

Maybe the time has come to consider whether a new format is required or even to make it a bi-annual event rather than every year.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2014, 11:57:49 AM
There are very few buisnesses besides Marks & Spensers and a few small shops,  eg hairdressers,flower shops  etc who don;t want it Yorkie,it just needs a very positive person who has TIME to visit every shop,cafe,restaurant,guest house,hotel,pub and explain where the money comes from ,what it goes on and which painter,nurse,hotelier,security guard puts all their spare time into putting the event on,i did not post this to whind you up Yorkie,i posted this to try and explain the problem we will have putting it on next year.                                     
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Just had a look at laterooms .com,it says there are 106 llandudno hotels yet for 2-5 may only 3 come up does anyone know why,they can;t all be booked up already.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2014, 05:20:02 PM
Wrex, I think that you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned TIME.

These days, (generally speaking) those people who have the drive and motivation to help manage and assist at events are all working longer hours or busy trying to eke out a living.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 30, 2014, 08:41:06 PM
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There are very few buisnesses besides Marks & Spensers and a few small shops,  eg hairdressers,flower shops  etc who don;t want it Yorkie,it just needs a very positive person who has TIME to visit every shop,cafe,restaurant,guest house,hotel,pub and explain where the money comes from ,what it goes on and which painter,nurse,hotelier,security guard puts all their spare time into putting the event on,i did not post this to whind you up Yorkie,i posted this to try and explain the problem we will have putting it on next year.                                     

I am not whinging, Wrex.  But I suppose you have the statistics to prove your rather sweeping statement as to your supporters.   I think you may find a bit of proper Market Research will show that there are probably as many for the Extravaganza as are against it.  Personally I would appreciate a rest from it, or a return to the original format where the people of the town provided the entertainment rather than outsiders.   

 ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2014, 09:10:27 PM
Yorkie. to be fair, don't you give yourself a rest from it every year?  I thought you always went on holiday (deliberately) at that time?    Happy to be corrected.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2014, 10:06:03 PM
If you where given the honour of announcing the end of the Extravaganza tomorrow Yorkie i think your market research would be up in arms.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 31, 2014, 08:26:12 AM
It's a tough one. The 'end' of the Extravaganza has been reported several times, I seem to remember, and yet each time - Phoenix-like - it's risen from its own ashes to resume, apparently uninterrupted.

Part of the reason that's happened is the very small number of utterly committed individuals (like our very own wrex:-) at the core of the organisation who believe strongly in the event and part of it is down to Len Ricketts' Transport Festival, which complements the event making it now an almost week-long attraction. Actually, for that reason alone I doubt the event is going anywhere for the near future, but it might well feature fewer Victoriana items and more fairground.

The fairground pays for most of the expenses but - and it's a big 'but' - they don't pay in advance. Expenses, however, have to be met in advance, and that's why funding is always an issue.

I suspect that most people in the town now see the event as little more than the weekend when the town becomes a fairground. But the first few events were nothing like that. They divided the weekend into clearly defined segments: street entertainment was the major aspect.  From the Wotan stilt walkers, to David Alexander's fantastic jugging and magic act, the astonishing Ladies' Barbershop choir and a lot more, the event ensured at least one act on every street corner.

The second section was parades, when all the acts plus as many Brass and Military bands as possible paraded once a day through the town.

Then there was indoor entertainment, which took place in the old market hall.  On the second year they managed to get a chap with the most staggeringly spectacular Meccano models to set up, as well as Palmists, fortune tellers and all the rest of the usual Victoriana trappings. In the evenings, concerts and shows would be held at various venues around town. The fire station and lifeboat men threw open their doors and showed people their equipment... Finally, prizes were awarded for the 'Best Victorian Outfits' worn during the event, something which brought folk in from all over the UK.

Lastly, there were Steam engines and Organs. Between those four areas, they ensured that the town was buzzing with something almost all the time.

The organisation required for that lot was incredible and - at one point - there was a paid secretary doing the work; volunteers were no longer sufficient.

There's no doubt some places do extremely well out of the event. But getting them to give money to the committee for next year's event is akin to Thaumaturgy. No easy task, and I don't envy wrex's job. But I'd say fund raiser is probably the most important position needed, now, and if no one is prepared to do that job, and do it well, then I could suggest that the committee simply announces it's disbanding, and waits to see what happens. That might result in a new band of volunteers - or nothing. Either way, the town will get what it deserves.
 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 31, 2014, 08:35:27 AM
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Yorkie. to be fair, don't you give yourself a rest from it every year?  I thought you always went on holiday (deliberately) at that time?    Happy to be corrected.

Not every year!  Consider yourself corrected!   :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on January 31, 2014, 09:30:43 AM
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Yorkie. to be fair, don't you give yourself a rest from it every year?  I thought you always went on holiday (deliberately) at that time?    Happy to be corrected.

Not every year!  Consider yourself corrected!   :D
But you don't live in Llandudno, so I don't really see how it can affect you? I live in town and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's a tourist town, so anything that pulls tourists in is to be applauded, because many residents' livelihoods depend on the tourist pound.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 31, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
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anything that pulls tourists in is to be applauded, because many residents' livelihoods depend on the tourist pound.

That's an excellent point, but one, sadly, that many don't grasp. The quality of life for Llandudno's residents depends on it remaining one of the top tourist destinations for the UK. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on January 31, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
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Yorkie. to be fair, don't you give yourself a rest from it every year?  I thought you always went on holiday (deliberately) at that time?    Happy to be corrected.

Not every year!  Consider yourself corrected!   :D
But you don't live in Llandudno, so I don't really see how it can affect you? I live in town and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's a tourist town, so anything that pulls tourists in is to be applauded, because many residents' livelihoods depend on the tourist pound.

Bully for you Sir!   Of course we DID live in Town, and we DID have an Hotel at one time, but downsized to PB.    Consequently we are fully cognisant with both sides of the argument.   However, we have to visit the town to do all, or most, of our shopping, so still have to suffer the tremendous parking and congestion problems.

I am not against the Extravaganza per se, but would prefer it not to be in my back yard, to quote a popular euphemism.

Perhaps if a more positive attitude were expressed by a certain individual, instead of the constant moaning and groaning, it would help to create added enthusiasm in others.

I will be around for this year's event, ear plugs to the fore!   :D




Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 31, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Well i leave the council alone then,if you think im moaning you got the wriong end of the stick,im frustrated that an event i love might disappear thats all Yorkie,i will not moan if we can;t find new blood but i will be very sad the event brings in the most beautifull steam traction engines some very good marching bands and still have David Alexandra so it will be a loss.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on January 31, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
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Just had a look at laterooms .com,it says there are 106 llandudno hotels yet for 2-5 may only 3 come up does anyone know why,they can;t all be booked up already.

The clue is in the name of the site you were on Wrex, "Laterooms". It's used by Hoteliers to sell rooms they haven't been able to fill at the normal price. So at the last minute they are made available, usually at a slight discount, to try and maximise occupancy. 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on January 31, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
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Just had a look at laterooms .com,it says there are 106 llandudno hotels yet for 2-5 may only 3 come up does anyone know why,they can;t all be booked up already.

Don't judge by Laterooms Wrex-- not everyone uses such websites. ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 01, 2014, 08:42:04 AM
They have changed their format,last year you would get the full list and you could see who was fully booked and who had a spare room.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: hollins on February 01, 2014, 08:55:14 AM
This one might give you a better idea Wrex.


http://www.hotelscombined.com/SearchResults.aspx?destination=place%3aLlandudno&checkin=2014-05-02&checkout=2014-05-05&Rooms=1&adults_1=2&languageCode=EN&currencyCode=GBP&sortProfile=0 (http://www.hotelscombined.com/SearchResults.aspx?destination=place%3aLlandudno&checkin=2014-05-02&checkout=2014-05-05&Rooms=1&adults_1=2&languageCode=EN&currencyCode=GBP&sortProfile=0)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 01, 2014, 10:12:53 AM
At those prices, I cannot understand why every hotel and guest house in Llandudno is not sponsoring the Extravaganza.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 01, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
That is the question Bri,why do none of them even thank the extravaganza for helping their buisness let alone dipping into their pockets.There are a handfull who do,but the word handfull lies the problem,but i dare;nt moan.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 01, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
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That is the question Bri,why do none of them even thank the extravaganza for helping their buisness let alone dipping into their pockets.There are a handfull who do,but the word handfull lies the problem,but i dare;nt moan.

From the vast number of coaches and cars in the town during the Extravaganza week end there are many who cannot get or don't want hotels.  It is just a day out for many folk and not a four day break.
This can be seen from the number of vehicles leaving the town in the late afternoon and evening, and the total lack of parking places even on the normally banned areas.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 01, 2014, 06:25:49 PM
There are no hotel beds available anyway,im not sure what your point is Yorkie.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Big Alan on February 01, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Me and my Paula are coming Wrex, arrive on Friday and come home on Tuesday. Having a 4 day break at The Lansdowne and we'll be spending a few quid in the shops, bars and restaurants to boost the local economy as tourists! Some people would rather moan about cups of coffee and boost their own ego than praise you or wish you luck with your efforts mate. We are looking forward to it and with a bit of luck we might bump into you.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 01, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
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There are no hotel beds available anyway,im not sure what your point is Yorkie.

Just that many people attend the Extravaganza purely on a daily basis and that hotels should get filled up without any trouble.  It is May Holiday weekend after all, which has always been a Holiday time with or without Extravaganza.  Your efforts are to applauded, just a pity you don't get more support, then it could be all plain sailing.
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 01, 2014, 07:56:01 PM
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It is May Holiday weekend after all, which has always been a Holiday time with or without Extravaganza.

Not really, as it only became a bank holiday in 1978. The event was started because the new holiday wasn't established fully and the idea was to increase visitor numbers. The question is whether the Extravaganza makes a difference. I suspect it does.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 02, 2014, 12:08:47 PM
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There are no hotel beds available anyway,im not sure what your point is Yorkie.

I hate to disagree Wrex-- but get your facts right !
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 02, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
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There are no hotel beds available anyway,im not sure what your point is Yorkie.

I hate to disagree Wrex-- but get your facts right !

Another point worth considering is the large number of bed spaces that have been lost over the past few years.  Star at the Bedford and work down to the other end of town.  Even our old place has closed as an Hotel.  You can only sell bed-nights if you have the capacity.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
The whole of Conwy borough benefits,no beds in any surrounding towns,but im glad to help our neighbours.You know from your view that the caravan park in Dinerth is never so full,glad to help.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on February 02, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
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This one might give you a better idea Wrex.
http://www.hotelscombined.com/SearchResults.aspx?destination=place%3aLlandudno&checkin=2014-05-02&checkout=2014-05-05&Rooms=1&adults_1=2&languageCode=EN&currencyCode=GBP&sortProfile=0 (http://www.hotelscombined.com/SearchResults.aspx?destination=place%3aLlandudno&checkin=2014-05-02&checkout=2014-05-05&Rooms=1&adults_1=2&languageCode=EN&currencyCode=GBP&sortProfile=0)


At those prices, I cannot understand why every hotel and guest house in Llandudno is not sponsoring the Extravaganza.

That is the question Bri,why do none of them even thank the extravaganza for helping their buisness let alone dipping into their pockets.There are a handfull who do,but the word handfull lies the problem,but i dare;nt moan.

I think this is worthy of an explanation and might just bring some enlightenment to some of our out of touch forum members.

From Hollins list (13 Hotels) I’ve removing the Imperial and St. Georges Hotels who always charge in excess of the smaller Hotels plus the Broadway who have put their rates up beyond belief, just for the Extravaganza week-end, the average cost of a double room over the May Bank Holiday is £81:66p (10 Hotels)

From that 20% is to pay the VAT (£16:32p), 15% commission to Late Rooms, Expedia, Booking.com etc. (£12:24) Staff Wage Bill, Gas Electric and Water charges, Rates Bill, Food Bill, Hotel Insurance x 2 (Mostyns for Fire Cover and Private for the rest),  Laundry costs, Commercial Rubbish collection,Employers Non Contributory National Insurance Tax on Profits at 8%, Income Tax at 20%, Mortgage repayments or Overdraft payments if you were unfortunate enough to need them plus a myriad of other overheads that crop up all the time.


Operating a Hotel in the 21st Century is not a licence to print money like it was back in the 50’s and 60’s. From a personal perspective (16 years running a promenade Hotel) we were charging £80:00p a night back in 2009 and look at how overheads have risen since then. Just as an aside I truly believe we would have been full that week-end with or without the Extravaganza.


I hope my explanation shows why the financial support from the smaller establishments can’t be there and possibly why Llandudno is now losing so many smaller operators.   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
Very interesting, Blongb. Here's a question for you - why is it I can obtain a hotel room more cheaply through a site like booking.com than if I contact the hotel directly? I've noticed this several times and it seems to make no sense for the hotel from a financial point of view.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on February 02, 2014, 05:20:45 PM
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Very interesting, Blongb. Here's a question for you - why is it I can obtain a hotel room more cheaply through a site like booking.com than if I contact the hotel directly? I've noticed this several times and it seems to make no sense for the hotel from a financial point of view.

I have no personal knowledge of how bookings.com operate as I consider all those types of sites to be Leaches and refused to allow them access to my rooms. I was very lucky, by providing a direct booking facility on my own website I had no trouble filling my rooms. There again a small 4 Star offering rooms at Llandudno knock down prices is easily filled.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
I wonder how Escape manage to fill their rooms, with room rates of up to £140 per night?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Having read that the event does;nt really help the small hotels because of their costs i don;t feel so bad now if it does;nt continue,shame but i thought it was helping.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on February 02, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
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Having read that the event does;nt really help the small hotels because of their costs i don;t feel so bad now if it does;nt continue,shame but i thought it was helping.

Wrex please don't be downhearted, I was only speaking from my perspective. Last year, 2013 was the first time since 1997 that I was able to venture out over the Bank Holiday week-end and actually enjoy the  extravaganza for what it is.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: llewelyn on February 02, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
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I wonder how Escape manage to fill their rooms, with room rates of up to £140 per night?

Because it is really good and some companies use it for their executives to stay in the area.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 03, 2014, 08:57:08 AM
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Very interesting, Blongb. Here's a question for you - why is it I can obtain a hotel room more cheaply through a site like booking.com than if I contact the hotel directly? I've noticed this several times and it seems to make no sense for the hotel from a financial point of view.

I have no personal knowledge of how bookings.com operate as I consider all those types of sites to be Leaches and refused to allow them access to my rooms. I was very lucky, by providing a direct booking facility on my own website I had no trouble filling my rooms. There again a small 4 Star offering rooms at Llandudno knock down prices is easily filled.

I agree with you Blongb-- you either charge accordingly like some of the aforementioned places who use these booking agencies to cover what they take from you, or you charge less, 'paddle your own canoe' and make a lilttle more.

Consider--- you have the % that these people take( I have been told 15%, but don't quote me on that)-- the fee for  debit/credit card machine (Which you have to have for these things) and the resulting bank and rental charges for same. Then there are things like laundry ( if you use one), staff ( if you have any) and all the usual expenses of rates, insurance etc, etc.

Also-- if a booking is taken by these people, if you aren't careful, certain people book a double room and then appear with any amount of hangers on, be they children or whatever and traipse in! Friends have had this many times and without anything else the fire inspectors wouldn't be pleased with a room crammed with people complete with cooking pots and large families !

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on February 03, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
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Also-- if a booking is taken by these people, if you aren't careful, certain people book a double room and then appear with any amount of hangers on, be they children or whatever and traipse in! Friends have had this many times and without anything else the fire inspectors wouldn't be pleased with a room crammed with people complete with cooking pots and large families !
When "certain people" called to book a room with us, we always asked them to confirm how many people the room was being booked for. (The importance of being in control of your own booking system) Some were most indignant when they were told it would not be acceptable for their mother-in-law to sleep on the floor. Also had a single woman parent accuse me of discrimination because I wouldn't accept a family room booking for herself and her four children.  &shake&
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2014, 08:33:34 AM
I see that you get my drift Blongb. This is just what I mean and if the booking is made by some outside agency you get what they send !
Also Saturday tea time, you answer the bell and find someone lurching around, lager can in hand wanting somewhere to sleep it off before the next round, you have suddenly  found that you let the last room 10 mins ago !(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 04, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
Just had a little look at daytrips to the extravaganza as i do every year(sad i know,so do all you) and its nice to see the coach firms already advertising the event,many end up bringing 3 even 4 coaches for the day so we know the event works i just wish i could explain to our buisnesses how much wed need their support without being negative.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2014, 03:33:20 PM
The main negativity is the fact that you keep telling everyone that there are no beds left in the town !! ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
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The main negativity is the fact that you keep telling everyone that there are no beds left in the town !! ;D

The Mrs and I could put up 4 people each night at £60 per double room, sharing a bathroom, and including breakfast and parking.  We might as well make a few bob whilst the chance is going!

 :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 04, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
Yorkie make sure its only 3 nights allowed,so thats £360 to you,£20 should see you ok for 3 brekfasts for4,have one yourself,imagine if you had 10 rooms.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
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Yorkie make sure its only 3 nights allowed,so thats £360 to you,£20 should see you ok for 3 brekfasts for4,have one yourself,imagine if you had 10 rooms.

As mentioned in a previous post, we did have an Hotel in the Town, so know a little bit about things!  As for having 10 rooms, no thanks!  I retired 16 years ago and have done my bit for the Country!   The Country can support me now.   
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2014, 08:02:00 PM
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As mentioned in a previous post, we did have an Hotel in the Town, so know a little bit about things!  As for having 10 rooms, no thanks!  I retired 16 years ago and have done my bit for the Country!   The Country can support me now.   
 ZXZ

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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 21, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
We are losing three very good members at the end of this years event and unless we replace them soon it will be very hard to continue,so it may not be the lack of support or help that finally ends our event.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 02, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
Glad to say we are really working hard for this years event,im glad to see most hotels full and many coaches coming in for daytrips to the extravaganza,no steam train this year but it is coming for the air show,we bhave a little suprise on the Sat afternoon and we hope to have the Welsh fusiliers band.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: FatAndy on March 02, 2014, 06:05:08 PM
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Very interesting, Blongb. Here's a question for you - why is it I can obtain a hotel room more cheaply through a site like booking.com than if I contact the hotel directly? I've noticed this several times and it seems to make no sense for the hotel from a financial point of view.

I spent many years working for accountancy practices in the area in which time I did book-keeping and accounts preparation for quite a few local hotels.  The smaller places do ok, especially those where the owners do all the work so there's no need for any employees, but even pre-recession the bigger hotels were seriously struggling to make any sort of profit.  Given that a lot of their costs will be fixed (rates, insurance, etc...) it makes sense to fill as many rooms as possible even it means reducing the price of some....80% of the going rate is going to be a lot better than 0%.

Also booking.com is a global brand.  Anyone across the planet looking for a hotel in Llandudno, Gwynedd can get a list of available places on the dates they require in a matter of seconds.  Given the number of hotels in Llandudno, and the fact that even the residents of the town probably couldn't name more than a dozen of them, how likely is it that in this day and age people will spend time searching out details of hotels and phoning around rather than just going straight to booking.com?   Just consider any commission/discount as an advertising cost and it all make sense.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 18, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
We will be putting out a letter next week asking for the hotels,pubs,cafes ,restaurants and shops to make a small donation towards next years event,i have spent or lost a half day meeting the authorities,lots of evenings sorting out funfair on Mostyn st so if the response is poor i shall walk,i don;t want thank you;s,i don;t want any credits but if we fail to get support then i will not be wasting anymore of my time to line the pockets of this town.I have done the extrava for many a year and love seeing the town full,the local kids having a good weekend,the old steam tractions,marching bands but with ever increasing bills without the buissnesses support i will walk,there will be a few very happy but i would like to think the town will miss the extravaganza.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Barney Baker on March 25, 2014, 08:21:22 AM
Well Wrex Silence speaks a thousand words, I think its time to wrap things up and finish the event as we can see from the response nobody cares. it would have been nice just for 1 little note but nothing, all the things we have to put in place to get the event past the Safety Advisory Group is enough of a challenge never mind all the bill's we have to pay all the measuring you and I do in the dead of winter and the weekend working from 06:30am to 9pm plus and what for ? we cant keep going as it is, we are after all volunteers and we need new blood but they only want the glory or paying.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 25, 2014, 08:33:44 AM
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I think its time to wrap things up and finish the event as we can see from the response nobody cares.

I doubt you could, even if you wanted to. As I said here (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,457.msg69998.html#msg69998) quite some time ago, the event is now self-sustaining. If Len Ricketts (Transport Festival) were to throw in the towel, perhaps it might falter but I suspect it would simply go on of its own accord, now.

Seventeen years ago something was created which has now assumed a life of its own.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 25, 2014, 09:02:22 AM
Ian, I would like to think you are right.

But to be honest, your post is a little dismissive of the great work Wrex and his colleagues do.
I really appreciate it, as do the majority I think... but I miss most of the Extravaganza these days as I am required to work at those busy times of year. 

It's like a game of Kep-Plunk, take out one or two key people and it will creak but survive.
Take out another, and another and the whole thing will collapse.

Don't be disheartened at the response on here Guys, just because no one actually joins in to do the graft.
But, I wouldn't mind seeing a poll setup on here, along the lines of.... Victorian Extravaganza, would you miss it if it stopped?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2014, 09:06:26 AM
Volunteers required:

"For anyone wishing to volunteer for duties at this years Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza, then please contact:
Andy Roffey: Extravaganza Crew Manager,
07505818928, email: andrewroffey @ outlook.com
Help for the Friday road closures, and set up on May 2nd would be a huge plus to our team!"
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 25, 2014, 09:26:29 AM
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But to be honest, your post is a little dismissive of the great work Wrex and his colleagues do.

I don't think so. I'm not making any adverse comments about "the great work Wrex and his colleagues do" because I know exactly what they do.

I believe the big question is what would happen if the committee members simply stopped en masse. Would the event fail to materialise? Or would others simply pick up the reins? To my certain knowledge the event has been 'doomed' five times since its inception, yet each time it's appeared - as if by clockwork - the following year. And let's not miss the point that  - as has been pointed out - they're all volunteers. So no one has to do anything.

I remember some years ago seeing a woman sorting out all the tables and chairs in Trinity Church Hall. I made a light hearted comment about it, and she replied, Tersely "Well, if I didn't do it no one would."  I asked her if she'd ever tried it.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2014, 11:06:01 AM
I don;t mind spending MY time helping Llandudno have a very busy weekend,we do get support from a few it just annoys me when there are plenty of buisnesses banking thousands on the Tuesday morning and not giving the Extravaganza a second thought,thank you or a penny.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2014, 03:45:50 PM
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I don;t mind spending MY time helping Llandudno have a very busy weekend,we do get support from a few it just annoys me when there are plenty of buisnesses banking thousands on the Tuesday morning and not giving the Extravaganza a second thought,thank you or a penny.

Whist I appreciate your work and your sentiments towards the Town's Traders, I think you must have regard for the very high costs that these businesses have.  Owning any business, especially a shop, is not an automatic Gold Mine.   Even if it is a real Gold Mine it is not always a viable enterprise.

Business Rents and Rates are at an all time high and the effect of all communities, not just Llandudno, is obvious from the large number of closed and boarded up buildings.    The enormous number of Supermarkets and Charity Shops are also weakening our past successful and useful retail centres.

I am sure that if the Town's Traders could afford to support the Extravaganza in a bigger and better way they would.

It should also be borne in mind that not all businesses see a benefit from the weekend!
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
Yorkie i appreciate all about the rates etc and im sure the extravaganza pays their rates  ,rents etc etc for quite a few months,its not the extravaganza;s fault that all other times are hard.If the traders don;t support then it will go,up to now there are 100 coaches decending on the town that weekend(daytrips that is) and im not sure what the traders want us to do.I can take anything on the chin because i know how busy the event is and everybody makes a good penny,but getting them to give just a small amount just does;nt cross  their minds.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Barney Baker on March 25, 2014, 05:43:04 PM
Funny how your previous comment went without a response and since I put a little note to support you Wrex everybody wants to talk about the event, come on Llandudno you've got to keep the event going !
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
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since I put a little note to support you Wrex everybody wants to talk about the event

That's hardly surprising, since your posting was both belligerent and accusatory:

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Well Wrex Silence speaks a thousand words, I think its time to wrap things up and finish the event as we can see from the response nobody cares.

not to mention short on facts:
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it would have been nice just for 1 little note but nothing

There's a lot of support for the event in here, as you would know if you re-read this topic. Wrex, however, posts his little rants with regular frequency, and the fact that no one commented on the latest was not a sign that "nobody cares". It was simply evidence that people have heard it all before - regularly.

We know there's a lot involved, as you keep reminding everyone, but you chose to become involved. Many in here cannot, because of other commitments, and some have done it themselves for several years. 

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the weekend working from 06:30am to 9pm plus and what for ?

That's the question, isn't it?  Why do you do it? There's a huge body of evidence in Psychology that supports the theory that people only do what they want to do. The motives behind your contribution are probably similar to the lady I saw in Trinity sorting tables and chairs: you do it because it gives you a sense of achievement, of purpose and clarity and you enjoy the camaraderie. And that's great.  If a leisure pursuit you enjoy also helps the town then fine, but don't assume because there were no responses to Wrex's posting that no one cares. They might just prefer sorting chairs in the church.  Remember: you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar... 

Z**
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 09:35:27 AM
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Yorkie i appreciate all about the rates etc and im sure the extravaganza pays their rates  ,rents etc etc for quite a few months. . . . .

It is pretty obvious Wrex that you have never been involved in a retail business or any business in which there is a demand for major overhead costs.   Some small shops have to take thousands of pounds every week just to pay for the stock and overheads, without making a penny piece of profit.   Plc companies have shareholders who want their pound of flesh so they have to watch every sou they spend.  And us poor old pensioners are having to tighten our belts! 

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Many small retail businesses actually pay very little in the way of Business Rates, due to Small Business Rate Relief.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
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Many small retail businesses actually pay very little in the way of Business Rates, due to Small Business Rate Relief.

If you want to split hairs!   :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 26, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
  No idea what your arguement is,if we help them have a good weekend what is your problem.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
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  No idea what your arguement is,if we help them have a good weekend what is your problem.

Wrex, I don't have a problem!   Just making my contribution to the discussion on a matter of some local interest.
 ££$

P.s. As usual I probably wont be around to experience the Bank Holiday events in Llandudno.
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 26, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
All im saying Yorkie is what are you on about,we even help small buisnesses make a few grand or we don;t.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 08:15:15 PM
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All im saying Yorkie is what are you on about,we even help small buisnesses make a few grand or we don;t.

And what I'm saying is not all businesses gain and not all businesses can afford to pay.

This place is supposed to be a holiday resort, even the Queen of Welsh Resorts, so entertainment, and the like should be developed by the Councils along with the Community.   All we have seen in past years are beds spaces disappearing, shops closing, and absolutely zilch entertainment or pleasure facilities being provided, Extravaganza excepted.  Yet CCBC are continually bleeding the local businesses and the ratepayers to finance even worse local services and very little support for us lot.  Even the bloody Libraries are being shut down!
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Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 26, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
The only buisnesses i would expect to help us is every hotel,guest house,cafe,restaurant,pub and gift shop and if you want to tell me that they all don;t benefit from the extrava then so be it.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
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The only buisnesses i would expect to help us is every hotel,guest house,cafe,restaurant,pub and gift shop and if you want to tell me that they all don;t benefit from the extrava then so be it.

Got any statistics?    :D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: llewelyn on March 26, 2014, 10:57:42 PM
Yorkie is right, apart from the creepy alice project the council do nothing to encourage tourism, we need the theatre to have shows, the beach to be top notch, the gardens to be full of flowers, good lighting, good seating areas, a big wheel , boat trips, and so on........
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
I'm never sure whether my little business benefits from the Extravaganza or not.  Because I am equally busy (or not) on the weekends either side of that weekend.    I just know that I enjoy it when I get to take part.
I think it's a great occasion and one which I would be gutted to see come to an end.

The Pier company reckon that we don't benefit really, as most of those walking on the pier do so to avoid spending more in the town, and come on in the late afternoon and evening when they have spent up.  I'm not so sure about that, I can sometimes squeeze a few more bob out of them.

I also bring quite a few family members down for the duration who enjoy it, and spend money (mostly mine) throughout the three days.  So it's quite an expensive but enjoyable time for me.

I don't get much chance to see the attractions, and if I thought that the other local traders were contributing a bit towards it, then so would I..... but I know there are quite deep and mixed feelings amongst them.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 06:59:13 AM
Observation Yorkie,what do you think the thousands do with their money,let me tell you,eat,drink and sleep.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2014, 07:20:42 AM
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Observation Yorkie,what do you think the thousands do with their money,let me tell you,eat,drink and sleep.

Well, Wrex, all this debate can't do your cause any harm!   ;)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 07:35:24 AM
Like our town council Yorkie,you tell them till your blue in the face and they still don;t listen.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on March 27, 2014, 07:47:51 AM
Hmmm...  Statistics are tricky things. But they are available. 

First: do more people visit during the weekend than a normal weekend? Yes, and the evidence for that is in increased coach numbers, additional train numbers and the money taken by the Transport Festival Car park scheme on Bodafon.

Second: do more people visit during the weekend than any other bank holiday weekend?
That's harder to judge, and you'd need to look at two factors: food and beverage takings for that weekend compared with other BH times and then bed availability - again, as a direct comparison. But the purely empirical evidence has always been from the NW Police service, who have noted in the past that the queues of traffic leaving Llandudno and travelling along the A55 towards Liverpool and Manchester are at their heaviest during the Extravaganza weekend.

Third: are overall takings up in the town during that weekend?
This is the nub of the matter, and the one hardest to prove, because the shops won't release their takings figures. There is anecdotal evidence, such as the fact that places like WH Smith have long argued their takings for the Extravaganza weekend are usually down on even a normal summer weekend, and people have to eat, so the people that don't bring their own butties in a bag have to pay.

Four: what's the overall perception of Llandudno as a destination for a day visitor on that weekend?
I suspect it depends on your particular preferences: it clearly attracts the steam engine fraternity and those who enjoy slightly ropey fairgrounds with their associated crowds and noise. But it almost certainly deters those who are looking for a quiet weekend by the seaside.

There's also the undeniable fact that those visiting only have a certain amount of cash, and between the Transport Festival and the fairgrounds there's a lot of competition for that limited supply.

But where the event scores heavily is in more indefinable ways. It creates an aim, a purpose if you like, for the numbers of volunteers who might otherwise be sitting about with little to do.  They come together throughout the year, at meetings, various strategy sessions and exercises and attempt to create the enthusiasm for the project which clearly so many lack. If it does anything, it demonstrates clearly what a few motivated and dedicated individuals can achieve in the face of, frankly, tremendous odds and rather a lot of naysaying. I suspect that's one of its most valuable assets.

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Yorkie is right, apart from the creepy alice project the council do nothing to encourage tourism, we need the theatre to have shows, the beach to be top notch, the gardens to be full of flowers, good lighting, good seating areas, a big wheel , boat trips, and so on........

So what are you doing about it, llewelyn? What projects to improve the town are you a part of? What has been your contribution to improving the Town of Llandudno over this past year? Because that's how long Wrex and Barney have been working to produce the Festival. And if you know of a sure-fire and relatively simple way to fill the theatres, create a world-class beach, renew all the lighting, install a big wheel and ensure a flotilla of boats doing trips around the bay then please tell us all, so we can pass the news to Judith.  I guarantee you it'll be front page news.

CCBC and LTC catch it in the neck for not doing anything all the time, so let's see some of those who complain all the time stand for council.  Yorkie's done it. What about others?

We're all part of the same community and we all want a place that's pleasant to walk around and enjoy in the sunshine. To keep it like that we need the visitors and we need traders who think it's worthwhile investing in the town. The Extravaganza just might help in that regard.



Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: FatAndy on March 27, 2014, 09:45:50 AM
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Third: are overall takings up in the town during that weekend? [/b]This is the nub of the matter, and the one hardest to prove, because the shops won't release their takings figures. There is anecdotal evidence, such as the fact that places like WH Smith have long argued their takings for the Extravaganza weekend are usually down on even a normal summer weekend, and people have to eat, so the people that don't bring their own butties in a bag have to pay.

My parents once owned a shop in Llandudno.  They took it over as a going concern and were advised by the previous owner not to bother opening when the Extravaganza was on.  The first time around the old man decided to give it a go despite the advice and dragged me along to help him.  We opened up at 8.30am and straight away took £20, thanks to a local coming in early so he could get out of town ASAP.  By lunchtime our sales had risen to about £30 at which point we locked up and went home to save wasting any more time chasing a lost cause.  I can't remember the exact figures now but takings must have been down about £500-600 on an normal Saturday during the tourist season, although they may have made some of that back from their regulars the following week.  I don't believe that my parents would have wanted to see the Extravangza come to an end despite their losses but at the same time I don't think they would have felt any obligation to make a donation over and above what the event was already costing them.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 02:41:24 PM
Hairdressers,woolshops,etc are;nt going to make extra and nobody would expect them too contribute,certainly not me.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: llandudnotrust on March 27, 2014, 05:18:41 PM
I allways :( put an advert in the program and I think we got a form in the letterbox last year but you know what its like put it some place and lost it. No reminder and I have come back from Hols (we have to go in the winter) and its all ready been printed !!! last 6 years count for nothing. Disapointed  :(

Must have plenty of customers
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 05:59:02 PM
Sorry about that Llandudnotrust but we are few on the ground and coming home from work and then having to chase people and things around sometimes things get missed,we just ain;t got the eager volunteers.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
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Sorry about that Llandudnotrust but we are few on the ground and coming home from work and then having to chase people and things around sometimes things get missed,we just ain;t got the eager volunteers.

This comment requires me to make a further observation.  Why is there a dearth of enthusiastic volunteers?  If the Extravaganza is of great benefit to the town, where are the people who consider it as such, and are capable and willing to give the enterprise their time? 

Or is there a simpler explanation?   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
Unfortunetley only a handfull of people will give their time for free Yorkie all others are too busy to give this town the boost it recieves.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on March 29, 2014, 11:22:36 PM
I must admit i have let some idiot whind me up on Oscar and have bitten,accused of being a bully,well it has;nt worked and then critical,well yes,then a few more having a go,but thats what this is all about,me and Yorkie always whind each other up but we stay friends but whoever this person is i say good luck.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on August 24, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
BIG CHANGES IN THE EVENT,I HOPE IT CAN WITHSTAND THEM
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2014, 06:19:51 PM
????????????   what !!!!!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on August 24, 2014, 06:40:32 PM
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BIG CHANGES IN THE EVENT,I HOPE IT CAN WITHSTAND THEM

Can't wait to hear!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on August 24, 2014, 09:41:15 PM
   Only hope they are not going to say anyone pushing a bike in the parade will have to ride on it
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on August 25, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
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   Only hope they are not going to say anyone pushing a bike in the parade will have to ride on it

I could probably wangle you an Electric bike for a little bit of publicity for the supplier!   *cycle*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on August 25, 2014, 07:29:34 AM
When i said big changes i meant in personel running it and whether it can be done
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
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   Only hope they are not going to say anyone pushing a bike in the parade will have to ride on it

Just in case they insist... ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on August 25, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
Very good!  _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Hi Wrex,   After reading past posts, you have my admiration and respect, from experience it's always the few who end up, time after time, doing the work, and burning out,  also volunteers are a difficult group to handle, time factors etc.
My own experience ended, with getting in a paid manager and organiser which turned out very well, for us.
From reading the previous posts, I don't know if this could be funded, a lot feel they pay enough already, but thinking along those lines, I followed up on Truro's example as mentioned in the  Xmas lighting section, I'll post the link, but they have to be read in conjunction, if nothing else it leaves a lot for discussion.
this position would be private not council.
http://www.enjoytruro.co.uk/about (http://www.enjoytruro.co.uk/about)


Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2014, 02:49:49 PM
Just reading up on next years   Extravaganza , and the list of sponsors      so far.    WWW

http://www.victorian-extravaganza.com/default.aspx (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.com/default.aspx)





Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: mrsflintstone on August 26, 2014, 10:21:11 PM
please note that the only thing updated on the extravaganza web site is the date all the content is still old as is the list of sponsors they were in fact 2013 sponsors  :rage:
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on August 27, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
No harm intended, just hoping to keep the topic active, still do.     ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2014, 10:42:45 AM
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please note that the only thing updated on the extravaganza web site is the date all the content is still old as is the list of sponsors they were in fact 2013 sponsors  :rage:

Might be an idea to get it up to date, it's now 2014, less than 12 months to go!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 15, 2015, 07:08:00 AM
im on ny way
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Barney Baker on January 18, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
here you are Wrex I found this in the local rag apparently the Extravaganza has only been going for 22 years instead of 28 years and normally one of the biggest events, correction it is the BIGGEST and its also a huge boost for the area and economy, pity you only get a small grant .........oh and the whole town gets transformed in to a fairground, the only smidgen of truth is the last paragraph  "The event will include an array of attractions and entertainment, which will fill up the streets between Northwestern gardens (bog island to us locals) and upper Mostyn Street".
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 18, 2015, 09:02:13 PM
I remember being a volunteer steward outside the railway station along with other round tablers in 1986.

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 19, 2015, 09:01:47 AM
That was, indeed, the very first Extravaganza, Bri. I believe the second and third were the best, as the event was hitting its stride by then. The '91 Extravaganza was the last of the original events. That year, because of the most unbelievably arrogant and immature behaviour on the part of one deluded individual the event was taken over by the Llandudno Heritage Trust.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 20, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
What a shame it did,nt carry on as it was,would have saved me a lot of bother.wages,time,oh well anyone who wants to take it back to its former glory feel free.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on January 20, 2015, 04:52:21 PM
Stick with it, Wrex.  You're doing a great job.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Will do Ian but we have lost quality organizers so it is a very few doing all,just can;t get the staff.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 04, 2015, 11:38:15 PM
This is another in my series of artistic photographs, influenced and sponsored by BEER.

I call this one, 'Big Scary Ride, being Dismantled, with a very Brave Bloke with a Massive Spanner at the top of it, and for some Strange Reason, the Flashing Lights are Still On!, and were Still On right until it was Packed Away'   

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 05, 2015, 07:18:10 AM
Who's now organising the parades?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
I always think the highlight of the Extravaganza is Mr Alexander's Travelling Show. An old time Showman, who always puts on a fantastic show.  $good$

Professor Voltini's Show is also very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 05, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
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Who's now organising the parades?

Ask Wrex.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 05, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
Sorry;  forgot to add 'wrex' to my question above.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on May 05, 2015, 05:32:55 PM
Ian its always been Kevin Chin in charge of the parade.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2015, 08:21:40 AM
I remember you telling me that, now, Wrex.  Murray Radcliffe was the best Parade Marshall I can remember. But organising that parade has never been an easy task.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2015, 08:53:36 AM
It must be like juggling cats...  :o

It always seems a very tight squeeze when they have to pass the rides in St Georges Place.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 10:26:51 AM
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It must be like juggling cats...  :o

It always seems a very tight squeeze when they have to pass the rides in St Georges Place.

There seemed to be less room there than before. Some of the bigger vehicles had quite a tight squeeze.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
  i had a tight squeeze. One day I ended up between three stilt walkers, and it wouldn't do to get in their way, might have had the chimney sweeps brush pushed in a painful place
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 08:15:52 PM
Good pic of a forum member in the Pioneer Mike ! ;D
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
   On my way to buy a copy
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2015, 08:17:03 AM
I think this will be my last year involved,i fully understand the its a funfair,its a funfair but without the person to pull it around it will not change.Funfair brings in the money,money pays the steam engines,money pays the entertainment,money pays the police,money pays marching bands band so until a very special person comes along with a plan it will be very hard to move on,Each year the bills increase and the pressure to bring in more money is there,its a great event and pulls in the people but with so much grief it needs change and it needs a human being to do it,send in your cv;s now lol.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on September 19, 2015, 08:43:50 AM
You've lasted longer than many, wrex.  However, things are looking good for the area just now, so it might at long last be possible to ignite a spark of interest from some of the major players in the area in terms of sponsorship.  It might be worth making approaches to Costa, McDs, Arriva, Stabucks and Nero, and even Travelodge might come on board.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 11, 2016, 09:44:01 PM
Well we are still having one this year,no cancelations
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bosun on February 11, 2016, 10:08:53 PM
Wrex,

We are delighted to hear that, it's a magnificent time for Llandudno.

However, it's spoilt by the inclusion of the Monkey Man, Star War Troopers etc. that degrade the whole event.

If it wasn't for the inclusion of various misfits and stayed true to the original theme, many more of us would be pleased to volunteer to assist. 

 
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wjones74 on February 12, 2016, 12:34:04 AM
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I remember you telling me that, now, Wrex.  Murray Radcliffe was the best Parade Marshall I can remember. But organising that parade has never been an easy task.

My uncle Murray bless him , still remember him in his top hat and tails leading the parade . looking forward to it again this year   ££$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Mr Tunnock on February 12, 2016, 11:03:56 AM
"However, it's spoilt by the inclusion of the Monkey Man, Star War Troopers etc. that degrade the whole event.

If it wasn't for the inclusion of various misfits and stayed true to the original theme, many more of us would be pleased to volunteer to assist. "


I agree, the same applies to the Christmas Parade.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 12, 2016, 11:13:33 AM
Not really worried about star wars characters as the kids love them and if people come along and offer their time i ain;t going to say no.The whole event could do with reorganising but by who and how will money be obtained to eliminate some of the fair,anybody can offer help but we must have ideas on fundraising because bills go up and up.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bosun on February 13, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
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Not really worried about star wars characters as the kids love them and if people come along and offer their time i ain;t going to say no.The whole event could do with reorganising but by who and how will money be obtained to eliminate some of the fair,anybody can offer help but we must have ideas on fundraising because bills go up and up.

Wrex, with all due respect, the people that are drawn into the town and a great many business owners have the expectation of things 'Victorian' and are disappointed by the dumbing down of the event with the inclusion of such as these 'characters' and, to be frank, other peripheral tat. Many people avoid the town on the extravaganza dates because of this, when if the event kept to the original theme of the Victoriana that celebrates Llandudno, it would draw in far more people and, accordingly, sponsorship. That's a brief synopsis of everything that I have heard (and seen) of the event over the past few years from visitors, locals and business owners alike.   
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 13, 2016, 12:51:11 PM
I have seen on Facebook that the wonderful Mr Alexander will not be there this year, that is a great shame!  :(
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 14, 2016, 10:19:08 AM
Mr Alexandra wants more money and as for the victorian theme anybody is free to come in and change the event, andthe handfull who do give up their time certainly do not,please feel free to change anyhing
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on February 19, 2016, 07:37:56 AM
Very constructive meeting last night under new chairman Kevin Chin.I think Kevin will start to turn the event aroundCannot cut funfair yet or we have to cut steam engines and bands in the parade and i don;t want that and i think people would moan if we cut the number of traction engines and bands without noticing a few rides dissapearing.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on April 18, 2016, 12:03:57 PM
Are any steam train services scheduled at Llandudno Station during the Extravaganza this year?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
There was one but they cancelled,always a problem where Llandudno station is concerned.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2016, 04:55:52 PM
Things almost inplace for next week,Chairman Chin seems to have pulled it around and im sure it will be a great success[for sum].All steam traction engines paid for,all bands paid for,all services paid for[bins,police,ambulance etc etc etc] so thank god the funfair coughts up a good rent,wink,wink.I hope you all enjoy x
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on April 22, 2016, 05:11:43 PM
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Things almost inplace for next week,Chairman Chin seems to have pulled it around and im sure it will be a great success[for sum].All steam traction engines paid for,all bands paid for,all services paid for[bins,police,ambulance etc etc etc] so thank god the funfair coughts up a good rent,wink,wink.I hope you all enjoy x

Looking forward to it and a huge thanks to everyone involved in making it, and the Transport Festival, happen each year.
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Post by: SteveH on April 22, 2016, 06:07:02 PM
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Things almost inplace for next week,Chairman Chin seems to have pulled it around and im sure it will be a great success[for sum].All steam traction engines paid for,all bands paid for,all services paid for[bins,police,ambulance etc etc etc] so thank god the funfair coughts up a good rent,wink,wink.I hope you all enjoy x
Looking forward to it and a huge thanks to everyone involved in making it, and the Transport Festival, happen each year.

 &well&   and a big    $thanx$     We will be there.    :)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on May 03, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Has Llandudno's Victorian Extravaganza had its day? Daily Post readers have their say
The annual event attracted thousands of people to the town, but not everyone was happy.

Cafes and restaurant owners were furious that the organisers had allowed burger vans and other food sellers into the town, and that many had set up outside Llandudno food businesses.

Morgan Austin, who owns Johnny Dough’s Pizzas , said he was £4,000 down on takings because of the annual festival.

Full article with poll.....
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-victorian-extravaganza-day-daily-12978682 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-victorian-extravaganza-day-daily-12978682)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on May 03, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
If businesses can't capitalise on this amazing event then THEY who need to look at how they are running them rather than trying to blame others. It's three great days a year, surely their businesses can't be that fragile?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: born2run on May 03, 2017, 03:15:39 PM
If you're running a food business it's hardly fair for someone to park a massive food van right in front of your premises! Business rates are not exactly cheap and they pay a lot of money to have those great spots on Mostyn Street.

Reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzoqa6OJ3C4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzoqa6OJ3C4)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
All credit to the organisers, I wouldn't like to be in their shoes. It must be a mammoth task to get everything in place. I too had noticed more food stalls including things like slush and garish coloured ice-cream as well as hot-dogs and burgers. !
The charity shop which I help in had a bumper weekend, our manageress had hoarded lots of Victorian bric-a-brac and her ideas paid off, we volunteers, on Monday, dressed up and received lots of kind comments from customers, we were kept busy all afternoon scanning and wrapping goods. ( Not good when you are sweltering hot !).
If I had to be critical I would comment that it has got rather too big !
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on May 03, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
Since the event started the vitriol and sheer unpleasantness of some of the business owners has been a regular occurrence. But it's drifted away from the halcyon days of the first few events. The parades then were something to see: stilt walkers, at least two military bands, barbershop women's choir, jugglers and a lot of steam engines. But as Nem says it's down to volunteers to organise and it's mighty stressful in the week leading up to it and the first day.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on May 03, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
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If you're running a food business it's hardly fair for someone to park a massive food van right in front of your premises! Business rates are not exactly cheap and they pay a lot of money to have those great spots on Mostyn Street.

One business in the article said that they weren't happy with exactly this situation although they added that the burgers from the van were more expensive than theirs. So why didn't they have someone standing in front of the van with a sign saying "cheaper/better burgers from the shop behind"? Form an orderly queue...
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: born2run on May 03, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
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If you're running a food business it's hardly fair for someone to park a massive food van right in front of your premises! Business rates are not exactly cheap and they pay a lot of money to have those great spots on Mostyn Street.

One business in the article said that they weren't happy with exactly this situation although they added that the burgers from the van were more expensive than theirs. So why didn't they have someone standing in front of the van with a sign saying "cheaper/better burgers from the shop behind"? Form an orderly queue...

People are sheep unfortunately that's why they listen to Ed Sheeran and buy bad quality burgers at £4 instead of decent ones at £2.70. But that is people for you, signs won't make any difference.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Fester on May 03, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
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Since the event started the vitriol and sheer unpleasantness of some of the business owners has been a regular occurrence. But it's drifted away from the halcyon days of the first few events. The parades then were something to see: stilt walkers, at least two military bands, barbershop women's choir, jugglers and a lot of steam engines. But as Nem says it's down to volunteers to organise and it's mighty stressful in the week leading up to it and the first day.

This year's parade had stilt walkers, steam engines, 2 military bands (at least), ... it was great I thought.
The only thing missing were the Star Wars storm troopers... GOOD!
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on May 03, 2017, 04:52:46 PM
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This year's parade had stilt walkers, steam engines, 2 military bands (at least), ... it was great I thought.
The only thing missing were the Star Wars storm troopers... GOOD!

And the three days would have been the perfect opportunity for Mr Waldron to promote his proposed erection for the former Pier Pavilion site. Mind you maybe the punters would mistake him for the "throw a sponge at the goalie" stall.

I hope this shop on the pier had been sorted out before the event. It was moved into that position over a year ago.

https://flic.kr/p/RtgbiA (https://flic.kr/p/RtgbiA)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2017, 08:09:10 PM
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Since the event started the vitriol and sheer unpleasantness of some of the business owners has been a regular occurrence. But it's drifted away from the halcyon days of the first few events. The parades then were something to see: stilt walkers, at least two military bands, barbershop women's choir, jugglers and a lot of steam engines. But as Nem says it's down to volunteers to organise and it's mighty stressful in the week leading up to it and the first day.

This year's parade had stilt walkers, steam engines, 2 military bands (at least), ... it was great I thought.
The only thing missing were the Star Wars storm troopers... GOOD!

I always wondered how they were Victorian.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: born2run on May 04, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
May the 4th be with you  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2017, 01:07:26 PM
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If businesses can't capitalise on this amazing event then THEY who need to look at how they are running them rather than trying to blame others. It's three great days a year, surely their businesses can't be that fragile?

Not to worry, according to the Pioneer, not all businesses suffered...........

" Visitors who came with empty cars have left with their cars loaded with items they’ve bought from the shops which can only be good for the local economy.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175537/gallery-thousands-flock-to-llandudno-extravaganza.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175537/gallery-thousands-flock-to-llandudno-extravaganza.aspx)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: born2run on May 04, 2017, 02:13:40 PM
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If businesses can't capitalise on this amazing event then THEY who need to look at how they are running them rather than trying to blame others. It's three great days a year, surely their businesses can't be that fragile?

Not to worry, according to the Pioneer, not all businesses suffered...........

" Visitors who came with empty cars have left with their cars loaded with items they’ve bought from the shops which can only be good for the local economy.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175537/gallery-thousands-flock-to-llandudno-extravaganza.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175537/gallery-thousands-flock-to-llandudno-extravaganza.aspx)

Those giant banana toys will fill up a car :o
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
Well done to everyone involved in organising the Extravaganza, as usual. I saw Wrex doing his usual sterling work during the event.  $good$
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on May 07, 2017, 11:29:55 AM
Llandudno's Victorian Extravaganza organisers 'know event must change'

The chairman of Llandudno's Victorian Extravaganza has said changes will need to be made to the event next year.
Chris Williams, who took on the role as chairman in December 2016, has said there will be a fairer balance between a modern and Victorian event.

The three-day festival was criticised by local business owners after organisers had allowed burger vans and other food outlets to set up outside food businesses.
Daily Post readers also voiced their concern that the festival may have had its day.

Mr Williams said: "I'm glad it's all come out. We need to reform, reorganise and to be Victorian."
"We have to deal with the in house problems first and the wheels are already in motion for next year."
"I want to see all the shops get involved and to get out onto the streets like a market with local shops and charities."
It is a slow process and was never going to happen this year."

Mr Williams added: "Businesses need to realise the knock-on effect on the economy and people who will keep coming back."
"We've had messages on Facebook from people saying they're already booking their hotel for next year."
Thousands of people flocked to the seaside town to enjoy the fairground rides, magicians, street performers and classic Punch and Judy.
Revelers from as far as New Zealand and Canada came out to experience the 31st event over the Bank Holiday weekend.

He continued: "Next year there will be a better balance and it will make it cheaper for families."
"I do agree the event does need a shape up and as a team we want to make the town proud."

"It is very hard to keep some things going and does involve more than people realise."

Mr Williams had previously said he wished more business owners would help the volunteer led committee who organise the annual event.
"I'm glad businesses are listening and we can work together with each other."
REF  DP
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2018
Post by: SteveH on February 25, 2018, 10:49:11 AM
The 'gamble' that Victorian Extravaganza organisers are taking to get it back its old glory
Annual festivities came in for criticism last year, with claims it had lost its way and its unique charm.

The new chairman of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza admits this year’s event will be a gamble as fair rides are cut back in favour of a Victorian style street market and sideshows.

The event held on May 5-7 celebrates the local Victorian heritage and the Victorian heritage in fairground and entertainment.

Chris Williams says the focus for this year’s three-day occasion is for it to go back to its roots, and has promised a more authentic Victorian experience.
Last year the organisers were criticised for allowing so many fast food sellers and modern fairground rides. One Llandudno restaurant owner even claimed the extravaganza has had its day, and the seaside town needed to take a more “21st Century approach” to attract visitors.

“There’s going to be far more of a Victorian feel about it, with a much bigger Victorian zone with vintage fairground rides, Victorian style sideshows and a steam engine arena.

“We are also organising a Victorian themed street market selling local produce, and businesses are getting involved with selling street food.”

“People did complain about there being too many modern fairground rides so from 123 plots we’ve reduced the fairground plots to 57.

“The modern rides aren’t scrapped completely as it’s important not to have something for the town’s teenagers. But they are being moved to another part of town, including a 35m big wheel.”

Mr Williams, who runs HTC Entertainment & Events added: “We’ve been working hard with Llandudno Hospitality Association, Mostyn Estates and Llandudno’s Chamber of Commerce to make this year’s even one of the best ever.”   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gamble-victorian-extravaganza-organisers-taking-14332868 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gamble-victorian-extravaganza-organisers-taking-14332868)

Official website......
http://www.victorian-extravaganza.com/#1 (http://www.victorian-extravaganza.com/#1)
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza.................... 2019
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2019, 01:27:30 PM
Event organisers have said a new look Victorian Extravaganza this year is set to be the best ever.

Last year's event saw a change in the running of the event with a greater focus on the Victorian element and larger fair ground rides moved into the Llandudno Town Hall car park to open up the high street for businesses to get involved more with the event.

This year's event looks set to continue the trend of change with event organiser, Chris Williams from HTC Events and Entertainment, hinting at more changes.
Mr Williams said: "The Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza committee decided to reduce the number of fair ground rides at the 2018 event.
"We also moved a few larger rides into the town hall car park to create more space to move freely throughout the town.
"These adjustments along with the addition of more old-time fairground rides and exhibits, were deemed to be a great success.

"As a committee we are now looking to build on this and make sure the 2019 event is even better and set up the same thoughtful way of following last year's blue print."

The 2019 Victorian Extravaganza - set to be held on May 4, 5 and 6 - will see an increase in live entertainment including bands and a circus and big top tent putting on a variety of shows.

Mr Williams said the Llandudno Town Band would be returning to the event after a three year hiatus.
The focus on the Victorian theme would continue into this year's event with some nice prizes on offer for the best dressed family.

The committee has released a letter listing a range of sponsorship packages which make it clear where the main costs and focus are set to lie for the May Bank Holiday weekend event.

The top four sponsorship packages which are more than £1000 are all for entertainment stages, with organisers attempting to provide as much free entertainment as possible.

With the event just a few months away Mr Williams said he and the committee are excited to be able to provide the biggest event on the Llandudno calendar.
He added: "We are set to stage one of the biggest extravaganza's in the 33rd year of the event.
"We have been working really hard and everyone is very excited about this year's event.

"There were a few issues with the noise levels in some areas last year, but we have been working hard to try and reduce that this year."           ref Pioneer

  https://victorian-extravaganza.com/faqs
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 11, 2019, 03:09:21 PM
It's a shame the contact form uses a Gmail address.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
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It's a shame the contact form uses a Gmail address.
Whats wrong with Gmail?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 20, 2019, 10:25:32 AM
Well, for starters it's owned by Google.  But more than that I would have expected the Extravaganza folk to use a domain address. Just looks that bit more professional.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2019, 10:29:53 AM
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Well, for starters it's owned by Google.  But more than that I would have expected the Extravaganza folk to use a domain address. Just looks that bit more professional.
I use Gmail, I find it fine. I think a lot of people find it tricky to set up an email address on a domain, when its sometimes easier to just add another Gmail account to your main one.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on February 20, 2019, 10:47:23 AM
In September last year Google claimed it had stopped scanning Gmails, which it had been doing routinely but admitted it was still allowing numerous outside firms (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/7312296/google-read-gmail-emails-snoop/) to do so.

I suppose some do find setting up domain addresses tricky, although the main culprit is usually the spf record.  But they should ask us.  We'd happily help them out.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
We called into the Tourist Information Centre in the Victoria Centre this morning intending to purchase a programme for this weekend.

A wasted journey because the staff there have not yet received a supply.

Does anybody know where else I can possibly buy one?
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
Well if the “information “ centre don’t know —- not much hope anyone else knows
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza.............2020
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Mrs H. just mentioned about next years altered bank holiday dates, which made me think about the Extravaganza, anyone heard any news.

One of next year's bank holidays will move from a Monday to a Friday to coincide with the 75th anniversary of VE Day.
The change will see the early May Day bank holiday moved back four days next year and will form part of a three-day weekend of commemorative events.
Business Secretary Greg Clark announced the holiday will move four days later - from Monday, May 4 to Friday, May 8 in 2020 so that people can pay tribute to those who served in the Second World War.

VE Day - or Victory in Europe Day - is marked on May 8 and commemorates the Allies accepting the surrender of Nazi Germany in the Second World War.    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ve-day-bank-holiday-2020-16399797 (https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/ve-day-bank-holiday-2020-16399797)

Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: OrmeMac on June 30, 2019, 03:35:47 PM
Both the Extravaganza and the Transport Festival will be affected by this and neither group has yet made any statement about what they plan to do which is very disappointing. Many visitors to those events book their accommodation a year in advance, so now they find they may have booked the 'wrong' weekend. Hotels and B&Bs are in the same boat - do they move bookings or not? The events can't really run for two days instead of three on what would have been the bank holiday weekend. If they move to the following weekend they will clash with the VE events plus rides & vehicles may already be committed elsewhere. Moving to the late May bank holiday would have the same problems. Given how much money and huge number of visitors both events bring to the area we really need a clear statement from the organisers as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Ian on June 30, 2019, 05:46:26 PM
It's also hit calender producers extremely badly.  Most desk and weekly calendars are produced a year or more in advance.
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: Nemesis on June 30, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
The cancellation of the Jess Glynn 'gig' in Colwyn Bay is also bound to affect hotel bookings .
Title: Re: Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza.............2020......
Post by: SteveH on July 10, 2019, 01:21:29 PM
From their FB page.

"As of Tuesday 9th July 2019 the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza team are committed to organising the 2020 event over the 8th, 9th & 10th May.

These three days are our provisional choice, we are aware this will also be the weekend for VE Day celebrations and the team are fully committed to embracing that and making it a big part of the event.

After much consideration we have decided it’s completely not viable to run the event for two days. We will now consult with the relevant authorities and make an official announcement when the date is 100% confirmed.

If this date cannot be agreed it would take considerable financial backing to see the event run for two days. If any of the many hotels and business would like to offer their financial backing to make this happen please contact us."

Thanks for your patience and support.
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza team


PS    Further down the FB page, poll results, not sure how many entered.
Question 4:
When you visit the event do you only spent you money at the event (on rides and market stalls) or do you use local businesses in the town?
20%
Event attractions only
80%
Local businesses also

Question 3:
Those of you visiting the area... do you travel in or do you stay in the area?
45%
Travel in
55%
Stay in the area

Question 2:
When you visit the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza are you local or visiting the area?
40%
Local
60%
Visiting the area

For those of you that aren’t local to Conwy County and visit the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza, do you return to the Llandudno area again throughout the year?
84%
Yes
16%
No