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Title: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2010, 08:47:23 AM
Transferring one of most current discussions over from the old forum:

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For those of you who are not aware,the arena is an all standing venue which can hold 2,500 people for concerts.Now it may look ugly but it could bring a lot of buisness into town if run properly,the lack of gigs[pop concerts to you old people]being put on has to be down to bad management,lack of interest or just lazy.There have been some great groups here so we know it works but why so few,we need to know how they book or try to bring these groups and why there are so FEW.  .Most you old ones must have noticed the que outside yesterday,youngsters looking forward to the Westlife gig,them being flown in to LLandudno football ground ,this is what may help to keep the towns youth here,unfortunatly we only had this gig due to the Bryn Terfel concert in Bangor being canceled,so by rights this has nothing to do with the managament.Keep Llandudno vibrant for the youth of the town not dull for the retirement brigade on the prom with their scooters[invalid carriages].
Rex

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The Pop and Theatre Industry operates on the basis of the Venue being able to guarantee a certain financial return if it is included in a show's tour itinerary.

I believe that Venue Cymru is unable to offer such guarantees and therefore unable to attract the best acts and shows.

Westlife was a pure fluke caused by cancellation of the Bryn Terfel concert, as Rex has stated, otherwise they would never have been seen anywhere near Llandudno.

To make any success the Venue needs a real entrepreneur at its helm who is willing to get totally involved with the industry and can demonstrate to everyone that Venue Cymru is a good place for the Class Acts to be seen.
Yorkie
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WHERE IS THE NEAREST BIG THEATRE FROM LLANDUDNO IF IT CHESTER WHAT A CATCHMENT AREA WE HAVE SO IF THEY HAD SOMEONE WHO COULD DO THE JOB IT WOULD BE FULL EVERY WEEK
Norman08

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Excellent post Rex, I wholeheartedly agree. I've seen some great shows at the arena and it is a quality venue.

When you look at the venues some of the top acts appear at I think Venue Cymru could knock them into a cocked hat. Lots of these venues are in the North West area so Llandudno is just a short hop for the acts.

Rex, put your money where your mouth is, you are the entrepreneur!
Paddy

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Sorry Yorkie but you are wrong,we have seen some excellent bands in the Arena so this proves the set up is good enough problem seem that management are not doing their work in promoting the arena in the right manor.
Rex

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I quite agree there have been some good bands and some good shows in all the number of years it has been open - now ask someone to name a dozen of them from the last 16 years!

Most things are one night stands, and without the coaches of kids at Xmas time, even the Panto would be a dead loss!

Have a look at this years budget forecast and you will find an estimated cost to the Taxpayer of nearly £1.5 MILLION. That is nearly £30,000 each week!

If your happy with that sort of subsidy then fine, but I ain't!!
Yorkie

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But remember....the mighy MOTORHEAD are coming !!

Nah Nah Nah.....NAH !!!

I can't WAIT......!!
Fester

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Yes this might be great to you fester and so it should,there should be at least one group a week that means something to them and makes them think we must go to LLandudno for the nite.
Rex

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I was talking to Fester about this only this morning and saying that Venue Cymru could stage a week long Rock Festival in either the Spring or Autumn and feature a mixture of new and old bands. Could bring a lot of people into the town.
DaveR

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Then all we would have to worry about was the other 51 weeks!
Yorkie

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Venue Cymru fails because it has low expectations and it doesn't realise it's potential. If I can speak from personal experience, I and my wife have spent a fortune travelling to Manchester, Wolverhampton etc to see bands which could safely sell out our Venue. WHY IS VENUE CYMRU MISSING OUT ON THIS?? We have an excellent venue in town with a huge catchment area. The nearest large venue to us attracting live music is Liverpool and Manchester. Chester haven't got on the case it seems so maybe it's time to trump them. So look at Llandudno as being central and then look at the wide demograph. Surely it should be a 'win' situation. We've have Status Quo selling out the theatre every year; Manic Street Preachers have played and brought the venue to it's knees. Mine and my wifes taste in music is hard rock/heavy metal etc, but don't let that dissuade. There is a huge following for this type of music in the huge surrounding area Venue has to offer (and at least Motorhead are coming!). We're not just after metal bands. We'd love to see a wide range of popular music in our town. For the cost of the venue we deserve this at least.

Also to add to this, Pontins Prestatyn host many festivals off season - Hard Rock Hell and Hammerfest (which we attend) happens December and March every year. Pontins also hosts Soul weekends and more. Surely Venue Cymru should capitalise on this.
RiffRaff


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MMMMM....MOTORHEAD...MOTORHEAD...MOTORHEAD !!!
Fester

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Fester, I saw Motorhead at Port Vale football ground nearly 30 years ago! They were suporting Ozzy who was my hero at the time.

I'm amazed (and chuffed) that they're still touring but I don't think I could put my ears through it again!

They'll be a huge draw though and I imagine they will sell out very quickly. Is it the same line up after all these years?
Paddy





Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2010, 08:52:11 AM
Motorhead? Pffft. I saw the mighty Doctor & The Medics at Rhyl Events Arena last week!!!  ;D Beat that, Fester!  :o

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4938896466_8a904a150f.jpg)
The Doctor will see you now... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4938896466/#)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2010, 11:39:41 AM
I shall be at the PJ Proby concert--- how sad is that ? :-[ ::)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2010, 05:11:04 PM
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If I can speak from personal experience, I and my wife have spent a fortune travelling to Manchester, Wolverhampton etc to see bands which could safely sell out our Venue.
Riffraff
Hi Riffraff, and welcome to the Forum. Could you give us a few examples of the sort of bands you would lie to see at Venue Cymru Arena?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
Paddy !
I was at that very gig at Port Vale....it was a dreadful gig,  and bands like Dumpy's Rusty Nuts were on the bill...
Motorhead and Ozzy are always worth seeing though .....give those ears a battering one more time for old times sake.
Although these days its my knees that struggle to stand up for all that time !

 Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 23, 2010, 09:02:14 AM
 :-*  Congratulations too R L Davies for taking nearly as long as Dawnus just to  build a patio. Now maybe the manager of Venue Cymru may get a few more pop concerts in the arena to pay towards the patio.  ¢¢##  Don't help drive the youth away from this town by failing to provide decent gigs for them,it has been proved this Arena can fill and accomadate large artists so BOOK a few.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
It's not so simple, Wrex. Bookings are controlled by the band's promoters, not Venue Cymru, and most of them are just not interested in coming to Llandudno. Even when the big names come, there is no guarantee that they will sell out - neither Westlife or the Rocky Horror Show sold out this year, for example. In addition, some Promoters wont considering booking their acts unless they get the venue for pretty much nothing - seriously!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 23, 2010, 10:50:49 PM
Dave is correct.
The Top bands are controlled entirely by the top promoters and Management Agencies.... in turn they are tied in to the top traditional venues around Britain, (Hammersmith Odeon, Manchester 02 arena etc) ...  its like a circus, a mafia if you like, where I am certain that financial incentives change hands to maintain things that way.   After all, a lot of dosh is involved.
Some of the top promoters think that one gig in Wales (Cardiff) is sufficient for a tour ... and we all know that is ridiculous.

On top of that, many top acts are prima donnas, and can veto many venues for personal reasons.
Several top acts have openly stated that they don't like playing in Llandudno, or don't want to come here.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on December 19, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
 :Having just spent a couple of hundred pounds in Manchester going to a concert,staying in a hotel,meal in a nice restaurant,lots of drinks bought in their pubs can no one see what Llandudno is missing out on by the lack of gigs in the Arena. :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2010, 05:11:45 PM
The only people who can't see are the morons running the place.  Public Service employees doing as little as possible, it needs to be put into private hands.     $uk
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2010, 06:04:36 PM
I've just said about this in another topic, they just never have anything I want to see, the last time I went was to see Jethro in October 2009 and he was very funny (and chatted to us for 20mins before the show, great bloke!)   _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: TheMedz on December 19, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
In the last year the Venue have had some of the current popular comic acts on there including John Bishop (x 3 by early next year) and Rhod Gilbert(x 2) ,both of which I though were excellent. I believe Ed Byrne (TV comedy shows etc ) is doing an arena tour (large venues) and is apparently going to use the Venue's concert facility rather than the Theatre. If that proves financially viable(sells tickets) there may well be more of the bigger Comic acts beginning to take an interest in coming to town.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: JasonW on December 19, 2010, 06:27:21 PM
Earlier this year the management of Venue Cymru went out to public tender. This was required to fulfil an condition of funding for the Conference Centre extention.
Although there was some interest, only 2 organisations bid. 1 was the internal management team and the other failed to fulfil all the criterea of the bid, hence the tender was closed.

Before the tender was issued I did argue that the main issue was that the length of the tender was for just 3 years, I tried to argue that the contract should have been for at least 10 years with possible extentions if performance targets were met. I didn't think 3 years would attract any serious contenders, as it was very little time to invest and to see the benefits of that investment.
I did manage to get some support from Cabinet members but not enough, and the 3 years was agreed.

Feedback from organisations that di not bid was that the term was not long enough!!!

So the current arrangements continue with a new business plan.
The situation may be reconsidered when the catering contract comes up for renewal, but I don't there will be the poltical motivation to go out to public tender at that point.

The theatre results are improving and showing growth, but I would still like to see what a serious external agency could have offered.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
Hi Jason,

I am personally interested in the business plan for impreovement at Venue Cymru.
In fact a colleague and I approached VC earlier this year with some business proposals of our own.

Is the new Business Plan available for public scrutiny? ...given that it is public money that funds this establishment...I am keen to peruse it.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 19, 2010, 07:32:42 PM
I'm reminded of a quote I saw on Jason Edwards' blog:
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
There is another famous quote on the subject...

''he who establishes himself as the guardian of all knowledge,is a paranoid and insecure toss-pot''

I think you can guess who uttered this gem.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: JasonW on December 19, 2010, 07:47:43 PM
Hi Fester,

The Business Plan was discussed at Cabinet on the 7th December:
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=171&MId=2284&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=171&MId=2284&Ver=4)

But it was an exempt item and hence the detail is unavailble. I belive the item was exempt as it was in essense the internal bid for the tender for the Management team. Hence it included financial and other information that could give other tenders an advantage should they bid or challange the decision that the tendering process was closed down.
This should now become a public document, or at least parts of it so that people can see the direction the management team want to move the Venue.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2010, 08:04:08 PM
Thanks Jason.

Indeed it should become public information now.  (I can feel a FOI request coming on)

I am not interested in the detail of any bids or tenders,  what I am more interested in is,

1, What are the management's targets and objectives for performance improvement at VC
2, What strategy have the management devised to meet these objectives.
3, What consequences will be faced if the management fail to acheive their objectives.



Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on December 20, 2010, 10:45:46 PM
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I've just said about this in another topic, they just never have anything I want to see, the last time I went was to see Jethro in October 2009 and he was very funny (and chatted to us for 20mins before the show, great bloke!)   _))*

Ah Jethro. I always preffered his Sister Ellie May myself.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2011, 08:07:56 PM
The End of Market Test report on Venue Cymru has been published:
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=22201 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=22201)

It is mainly the usually nonsense you expect from CCBC reports but this bit stood out:

"Another issue raised was regarding the state of the Venue Cymru building. It became clear that many issues relating to its initial construction are unresolved and that its ongoing maintenance budget is not sufficient to cover the indicative maintenance costs."

Sounds like another big chunk of taxpayers money is heading down the drain!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Blongb on January 13, 2011, 09:53:17 PM
It could always be turned into another swimming pool
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 10, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
 :o Manic st Preachers playing the Arena may 18,heard that on Ken Bruce show this morning'so there was some free publicity for the town,unfortunatley this should be mentioned once a week not once every six months.All we hear is how much the complex loses every year but its no surprise when the management can only find one gig to hold in the arena every 3 months,what a waste of a fecility and what a shame for the local youngsters that the Arena is under used. :weeping:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on March 10, 2011, 05:25:38 PM
Couldn't agree more Wrex. Think of all the acts that play arenas in Liverpol/Manchester without realising there's a great venue just an hour down the road (roadworks permitting)!

Why aren't these acts being enticed to Llandudno?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on March 10, 2011, 05:45:43 PM
They don't want to come to Llandudno...is the main answer.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on March 10, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
I disagree DaveR. Why would they not want to come if they're on a UK tour? I think it's much more likely that they don't know about Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on March 10, 2011, 05:58:03 PM
Fester and I have spoken to VC management about this very point...and that is the answer we were given.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on March 10, 2011, 06:19:21 PM
I'm seriously confused, bordering on angry, on a couple of points DaveR!

Firstly. How do they know that big acts don't want to come to Llandudno? What research did they do when they were devising a business plan for The Venue?

Secondly. If they had a business plan before they started work on The Venue how was the spending of our money ever approved if they knew that the big acts wouldn't be interested in coming?

I can feel a "Wrex" coming on here!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on March 10, 2011, 06:32:54 PM
It is indeed confusing....and I didn't 100% accept what the VC management gave as the reason.... but it is definitely what they said.

I do think that more could be done, and a big shake up is required....but it is a very good point.  WHY weren't these reasons known before spending so muh public money.

3 key reasons we were given for major acts not coming to Llandudno.

1, If there is a token Welsh date on the tour.... it will be in Cardiff.   (Ridiculous I know, but thats the mentality)
2, Major acts are signed up with major agents / promoters, who have a closed-shop type arrangement with ''favoured venues''
3, Major acts that DID play Llandudn, didn't like the experience.   Acoustics are deemed to be poor!

Reason 3 is a major design problem, like others which should have been known BEFORE spending vast sums.

Once again,  its a mis-management issue.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on March 10, 2011, 06:41:22 PM
We should also know about the many conferences and conventions that have given up coming to Llandudno.   Someone must know why!     ¢¢##
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 10, 2011, 10:48:02 PM
It's true that I can think of a few bands that I have only played once and never returned. Super Furry Animals, Levellers, Status Quo, Stereophonics, Catatonia, Space, Morrissey and many more I've probably forgotten! So maybe it's true the acoustics are a bit crap - and the crowd too impassive. I remember the Manics slating the crowd last time they were down, so suprised that they came back!! I also notice in Llandudno (compared to arenas like Manchester and Liverpool where I often go) much less people watch the support bands. It's really odd.

For Ocean Colour Scene recently for example the room was dead when poor Mike Peters was on. I think Llandudno struggles with the live music culture, people seem more interested in wanting to get p****d up first.

There is a massive punk scene around at the moment - if VC management got wise and booked some of these bands, I guarantee they would seel out fast -bands like Less than Jake, Reel Big Fish, Dropkick Murphys, NOFX, Good Charlotte, Whitmore, Zebrahead etc have all sold out similiar sized venues in Liverpool and Manchester recently.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on March 10, 2011, 11:13:33 PM
The Management at VC have most likely never heard of those bands you quote B2R.

The Manager was quoted as saying that Quo's Francis Rossi hates playing The Arena (and will only play the theatre) because of crap acoustics.

Motorhead's Lemmy said to me directly that he thought that the sound was ''Not bad, but certainly not good'' 

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 10, 2011, 11:23:15 PM
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The Management at VC have most likely never heard of those bands you quote B2R.

The Manager was quoted as saying that Quo's Francis Rossi hates playing The Arena (and will only play the theatre) because of crap acoustics.

Motorhead's Lemmy said to me directly that he thought that the sound was ''Not bad, but certainly not good''  



I saw the only Quo gig there and thought it sounded great, louder than usual actually (though I was near the front) The crowd however was pretty poor, the front was full of rody individuals and a few fights broke out (I remember the bass player jumping in to try and sort one out) and afterwords in the weekly news there was a load of complaints from the fans. Truth is I think the fans couldn't hack the standing up at their age - I always stand at the theatre and looking around it seems to be nearer the the end of the show every year that the crowd irritate them! That aint rock n roll to me  :twoface:

Thought the sound was pretty good last time I went for Ocean Colour Scene as well. But again I wasn't standing at the back I was front row and it should sound good up there.

If they want to fill that arena then forgotten 90s indie bands and dinosour rock is not what they need, they have to get something the kids will like. A populour punk, hip hop (N Dubz) for example or Nu Metal band would fill that place with youngsters (as long as tickets were under (£20)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on March 11, 2011, 08:17:10 AM
I've edited your post, B2R, to change a couple of the references. We're a public forum, and with the exception of one of the jokes topics this entire site is open to everyone of all ages. While what you wrote wasn't that bad, we need to keep the forum as a whole free of references that have the potential to offend, or - more particularly - that might concern parents if they thought their younger kids were reading it.

Hope you understand  :)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2011, 08:19:25 AM
The problem with the Arena as a concert venue is that it wasn't designed as one, it was intended to be a conference room. Hence, the acoustics are not too good and the ceiling is too low for more sophisticated lighting rigs.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2011, 02:24:21 PM
  ;)Having seen The Manics,Stereoponics,Kooks,Paul Weller,Saw Doctors,and a few others i have never heard any one complain and i certainly enjoyed so there seems to be some cover up here because it was built for concerts and with the promise of filling hotels on a regular basis not just once every 3 months,something very wrong with the whole Venue if you ask me.Why you never hear Hoteliers complaining about the way CCBC run this town is unbelievable. :roll:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
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the ceiling is too low for more sophisticated lighting rigs.
Damn right, I saw half of the Australian Pink Floyd show at Venue Cymru a couple of years ago.
I made the mistake of booking front circle seats (which incidentally aren't at the front but are at the side)
The huge speakers that I imagine the band supplied blocked out half of the stage,
I never even saw the drummer or the second guitarist and when the singer ventured towards the back /left he also disappeared from view.
The sound though wasn't too bad but seeing the band a month later at a proper concert venue just showed how bad the failings are of this second class joke of a venue.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2011, 03:38:33 PM
 Brumbob we have crossed wires ,we are talking about the Arena not the Theatre,the arena can hold 2,500 standing ,so you can see it could bring in a lot of buisness into the town run properly. ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 03:54:14 PM
Thanks wrex, didn't realize the band had booked the wrong place :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 11, 2011, 06:19:17 PM
I like Pink Floyd - But standing up for 2.5 hours for their show is not my idea of fun, that's one you do have to sit down for!!
I wonder how much they make on Beer sales? Must be a fortune, I'm suprised that alone doesn't entice them to put a lot more shows on.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2011, 07:57:13 PM
What should be remembered is that VC management dont decide who puts the shows on, the Promoter does. When he plans a tour, he contacts venues around the country and negotiates a price to rent their building for the night.

Unless there is a Promoter willing to put on a show at Llandudno, then it simply won't happen. The cost of putting on a show with any sort of name band or performer will reach £30,000 very quickly - that's a big gamble to take in a town like Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
  ??? So Dave you think the vc are asking to much to put the gigs on so the town stays quiet and the Arena unused,It must be better to break even ,have the town busy and the local people enjoying live gigs rather than leaving the Arena empty because of expensive rents. :'(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 11, 2011, 10:55:18 PM
VC should rent the place out free - the money they make on booze will cover the overheads.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on March 12, 2011, 01:56:50 AM
Llandudno can still pull a decent crowd though, if given a decent act, as these photos illustrate:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on March 12, 2011, 07:43:20 AM
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VC should rent the place out free - the money they make on booze will cover the overheads.

There's a precedent for that - although not locally.  But it's similar to the approach taken by some of the hotels that remain open throughout the winter; rather than close down, they stay open, but charge very little for rooms, hoping to make it back on bar and restaurant services.   

I don't think running VC to make money is an easy task by a country mile, but I suspect a more flexible approach to their hiring policy might be needed.  For instance, suppose it were hired out one night a week across the summer season for an Old Time Music Hall-type of production, which could be achieved through a great deal of local involvement. You couldn't charge visitors much more than £10 per head, and you couldn't' guarantee a weekly show would be packed out, so the VC management would have to come to an arrangement about their take.

There's a fair bit of local talent, and it's of the type that could interest our visitor profile, but organising it and running the show would be no easy task. Apart from organising the talent, auditioning, hiring of audition facilities, insurance, programme planning, photocopying, publicity, disc duplication, printing and so on, there would be the actual show itself, which would demand a weekly commitment from the performers - not an easy thing to get - in addition to the not insubstantial costs of insurance, performing rights' fees, performers' expenses, compliance fees, safety officer fees and ensuring that you covered the ticket office, stewards, in-town publicity, newspapers and 'internet, and all that's before the show opens for the first time.

In principle, you might get a fair number of folk willing to give their time on a voluntary basis; that's exactly how the Extravaganza began and ran for many years. But the Extravaganza - a concept which shares many similarities with the above proposal - also suffered from the same issues which afflict all voluntary societies: those involved are volunteers, so managing them is extremely difficult, as they don't feel they 'have' to do anything, and a curious tendency for most of the volunteers to evaporate during the event, leaving just one or two holding the baby.



Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2011, 07:52:40 AM
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  ??? So Dave you think the vc are asking to much to put the gigs on so the town stays quiet and the Arena unused,It must be better to break even ,have the town busy and the local people enjoying live gigs rather than leaving the Arena empty because of expensive rents. :'(
It's about £5,000 to hire the VC Arena for the night. Would a cheaper rent attract more promoters to stage concerts/shows there - maybe?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on March 12, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
While I would love to see VC utilised to its full potential, Ian's idea of an Old Style Music Hall show, IMHO, is not the answer.  Already these type of shows along with music from the musicals type shows are put on throughout the Summer season at the Town Hall, Trinity Church, United Reformed Church and male voice choirs at the Church between M & S.  These small venues charge £100+ per night which is valuable income for their coffers and in turn alot of money can be raised for local good causes.  Also as these places are more central they appeal to many of the older folk as it is a very short walk back to their hotels.  VC is quite a long walk down the promenade for many people especially if its raining back to their hotels, and a taxi fare is an expense that many on limited budgets are just not prepared to make.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: brumbob on March 12, 2011, 10:46:08 AM
Couldn't agree more with you Jack
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on March 12, 2011, 11:05:22 AM
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Ian's idea of an Old Style Music Hall show, IMHO, is not the answer.

Actually, it wasn't my idea as such, Jack;  I merely offered a 'what if' scenario to stimulate discussion about how the VC could and might be utilised. And you may well be right, except that what we're looking for is positive ideas, not simply negativism.  Unfortunately, Llandudno is full of people who are only too happy to say something won't work and can't be done - ask Wrex - but the real point I was making if you read my post carefully is that it's the other type of people - the go getters, movers, shakers and makers - that we're short of here. We need folk with new ideas, willing to have a go and try things out and we need those who are ready, able and willing to give of their time and energy to try and improve Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 12, 2011, 12:00:12 PM
What lets us down (in the winter) is that Llandudno only has a population of 20k - to fill the arena locally youd need 10% of that!
So we obviously need out of towners coming in to watch shows. The problem with that is that there is NO decent public transport available. Especially for young people who are the type who most frequent stand up music shows, and its the young people who are more likely not to be able to drive (Not many kids bother taking their cars to uni) So if somebody from Bangor Uni for example wanted to watch Ocean Colour Scene and couldn't drive they'd have no chance of getting here.

A Bi-Weekly or monthly student orientated event would be great, especially done on a Friday night - with a populour headline band people would pay around £15 to watch. (Buckley does it better in a Nightclub! They've had Hayseed Dixie, Fun Lovin Criminals. Ash, Stranglers amongst others recently.)  and support from local bands (who'd do it for free for the publicity) and set up a coach scheme picking people up from Bangor, Pen, Conwy - and another route from Rhyl, Abergele and the Bay and I think you'd have it busy every time. Importantly these students would drink (could even keep it open after, as they do at the 02 academys) and they'd make a massive profit on the drinks.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on March 12, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
I wonder if Bangor Student Uni would have any thoughts on that? It's normally the union that organises this type of show, so if the right deal was proposed they may be interested.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on March 12, 2011, 01:42:09 PM
Wow! This thread is becoming fascinating. There are obviously lots of local people with lots of great ideas for VC. What intrigues me most, and I'm returning to a previous comment I made on this topic, is why the people who came up with the idea for this excellent venue didn't consider what they would do with it when it was built.

Reading between the lines of Ian's comment I think he's suggesting they should just put "something" on and that's really not a bad idea. I wonder how much it costs to keep the Venue closed. Surely doing something that loses less money is preferable to doing nothing?

As for b2b's concerns about transport links, here's a quote from one of the books I was supposed to read at Uni.

"If you build a better mousetrap, even if you live in the forrest people will beat a path to your door"

Let's get some quality acts here and build a reputation for this excellent, under utilised, facility.


ps. Can someone please put the quote on the "quiz" thread and see if anyone knows who said it?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on March 12, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
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Reading between the lines of Ian's comment I think he's suggesting they should just put "something" on and that's really not a bad idea.

The idea is really B2R's;  from their posting:

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VC should rent the place out free - the money they make on booze will cover the overheads.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on March 12, 2011, 02:42:45 PM
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VC should rent the place out free - the money they make on booze will cover the overheads.
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How much money would VC make from the sale of drinks?  SMG Europe is responsible for all catering and bars at VC.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 12, 2011, 03:45:08 PM
Surely SMG Europe cannot be happy with the amount of buisness the VC is producing for them.There must be a way we can find out how many days of the year the Arena is used,i know they do have the snooker in there,the youth theatre used it for their show, so i do know it is used for a variety of things.What would;nt suprise me is if the VC management tried not to have two sellout shows on the same night because they cannot cope with 4,000 people on one night. Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2011, 06:05:45 PM
 $walesJust been on the  Venue Cymru website and logged in LIVE GIGS IN ARENA and one came up,i do hope that someone grasps this lack of use and starts the VENUE CYMRU making money and delivering some decent entertainment for the youth who are left in this town. :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:20:09 PM
 >>> I am still baffled by the lack of gigs in the empty Arena,why build such a venue then not have somebody in place to fill,once a month at least. I bet they have trouble finding firms to take on the franchise for the whole venue when it is so badly run $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 06, 2011, 09:25:08 PM
When you have senior members of the council who prefer to spend their time quaffing large amounts of alcoholic beverage, what do you expect? Z**   Z**   Z**

They have no one with the neccessary experience in the Theatrical World to go out and get the business.  They play a waiting game - waiting for the business to come to them, and we all know the results of that attitude!  ZILCH!    It would be funny if it were not so tragic.   
 $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2011, 12:07:00 AM
 ZXZ ZXZ Sounds like I am eminently qualified for a position on The Town Council   Z** Z**

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
Venue Cymru in 2009/10 had a turnover of £4.75m and expenditure of £6.11m, leading to a loss of £1.36m.

Expenditure equals to spending of £117,615 a WEEK. How?  :o

All figures from:
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
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Expenditure equals to spending of £117,615 a WEEK. How?


Heating, Lighting, Cleaning, Maintenance, Rates, insurance, depreciation, Wages and tea bags, probably.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
Still seems way too much - over £16,800 spent EVERY DAY!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Presumably because they average out their expenditure so that the cost of bringing the few big shows they have appears as a disproportionate weekly expenditure. What really matters is how they're losing so much per year and for that, we'd need to see the VC accounts themselves.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2011, 03:03:38 PM
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Expenditure equals to spending of £117,615 a WEEK. How?

Heating, Lighting, Cleaning, Maintenance, Rates, insurance, depreciation, Wages and tea bags, probably.

Plus Advertising, Hospitality, Booze for Councillors and their pals, Free Tickets, Mailings, Phone, IT and Rodent Exterminator!     L0L
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 11, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
 :o Well if the Arena sites empty nite after nite with no groups booked in then its no suprise this venue is bleeding us dry. L0L
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2011, 09:17:24 PM
 :o  Im so pleased to see the management of theloss makeing Venue Cymru still have not managed to find another gig to put on in the Arena,it just proves what a useless bunch is running the show.The Manic Street Preachers are booked in for May 18 and that is it,i will admit i have no idea how many other bookings for the Arena they have ,eg snooker or little shows  but lets be honest,2,500 people coming into Llandudno for concerts has to make sense,yet NOBODY seems to give a hoot,if i managed the Washington i would want to know why my rates are being put into Venue Cymru and nothing is on,the Wash gets a lot of buisness when there is a gig in the Arena.I think an e-mail to a promotor is needed to see their thoughts on Llandudno and the Venue. WWW
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 18, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
FYI, wrex, the Madoc Street Preachers is not sold out yet which is surprising.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
 :'( The only thing on and im away ,sods law Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 26, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
 :( I was told at the weekend the management refused to take a Deep Purple gig due to the fact they thought it would not sell,HELLO. ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 26, 2011, 02:14:12 PM
They shoulkd bloody well take all that they are offered - someone will like it!   And as the band etc is normally paid by a percentage of the door takings on top of the basic fee their costs were known before they started.   Simple commercial risk.   Who are Deep Purple anyway - I've never heard of them - but then I'm not a music buff.     
 $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 02:39:34 PM
if VC refused to book a gig, it would be because the promoter wouldnt pay to hire the hall and wanted to pay VC out of ticket sales without a guaranteed level of income, I imagine?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:07:58 PM
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Who are Deep Purple anyway - I've never heard of them - but then I'm not a music buff. $angry$

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple)

Deep Purple are considered to be one of the hardest touring bands in the world. From 1968 until today (with the exception of their 1976–1984 split) they continue to tour around the world. In 2007, the band received a special award for selling more than 150,000 tickets in France, with 40 dates in the country in 2007 alone. Also in 2007, Deep Purple's Rapture of the Deep Tour was voted #6 concert tour of the year (in all music genres) by Planet Rock listeners. The Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang Tour was voted #5 and beat Purple's tour by only 1%. Deep Purple released a new live compilation DVD box, Around the World Live, in May 2008. In February 2008, the band made their first ever appearance in Moscow at the Kremlin at the personal request of Dmitry Medvedev who at the time was considered a shoo-in for the seat of the Presidency of Russia. The band was part of the entertainment for the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 in Liberec, Czech Republic. In 2011, many people wondered at the Deep Purple Disney On Ice Tour.

Maybe Venue Cymru management have never heard of them also..... :-X
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 26, 2011, 05:15:01 PM
We would have gone to the Deep Purple gig  $angry$   Tomorrow night we will be there for the Brit Floyd gig  D)  D)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
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We would have gone to the Deep Purple gig  $angry$

Yes, and so would numerous people from around North Wales, North West England and further afield. Staying in hotels, drinking in local pubs, eating in local restaurants, spending in local shops...........some people just don't get it.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 05:35:32 PM
A Promoter puts on a gig, not VC Management. They simply rent the building to said Promoter.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on April 26, 2011, 05:39:14 PM
I was beginning to wonder why so many touring groups weren't coming here, maybe this is why?
If these people did a small bit of research of any acts they haven't heard of they might realise there is good money to be made if they get a few decent acts here. I get sick of having to go to Liverpool, Manchester, Crewe & the midlands to see bands and not getting back until the early hours meaning I have to book the next day off work! What was the point of building the arena if it's going to spend so much of it's time lying empty???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 26, 2011, 05:41:25 PM
The Council always wanted their own Zoo and they decided to start it with the biggest White Elephant in the whole of Wales.   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
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A Promoter puts on a gig, not VC Management. They simply rent the building to said Promoter.

Yes, I believe this has been mentioned previously. However Wrex said:

I was told at the weekend the management refused to take a Deep Purple gig due to the fact they thought it would not sell,HELLO.

Perhaps this means that they refused to rent the building to the promoter?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 05:46:06 PM
If the Promoter had £5k, they would rent the Arena to him for the night.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
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I get sick of having to go to Liverpool, Manchester, Crewe & the midlands

Yes, and people who come to Llandudno from Liverpool, Manchester, Crewe & The Midlands are probably sick of travelling back to where they came from to see a decent gig, when it would be nice for them have a good time whilst on holiday.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
So you're willing to put up the cash to stage a concert yourself, Trojan?  ;) You'll need about £25k by the time all the bills are paid and there's no guarantee you will make your money back, let alone make a profit....
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:53:35 PM
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If the Promoter had £5k, they would rent the Arena to him for the night.

Suppose it all hinges on WHO the promoter THINKS will turn up to view the act.

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/major-band-reunion-promised-by-bored-british-promo/23560/ (http://www.prefixmag.com/news/major-band-reunion-promised-by-bored-british-promo/23560/)

Quote from a "bored" promoter:

"If it is Genesis, or Slade, or Deep Purple, will people actually line-up to see them? Maybe a few hundred paunchy businessmen who want to hear “Smoke on the Water” in a live setting, but that’s about it".
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on April 26, 2011, 05:57:21 PM
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So you're willing to put up the cash to stage a concert yourself, Trojan?  ;) You'll need about £25k by the time all the bills are paid and there's no guarantee you will make your money back, let alone make a profit....

Yes of course. We could have a Three Towns Forum Talent Contest, Alex Munro style.

I'm sure Paddy would love to smash-up a guitar again.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
Fester could do his Elvis impression...  $elvis$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on April 26, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
I don't do too badly with a comb and toilet paper--just the problem of getting the Bronco these days !! _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on April 26, 2011, 06:14:59 PM
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So you're willing to put up the cash to stage a concert yourself, Trojan?  ;) You'll need about £25k by the time all the bills are paid and there's no guarantee you will make your money back, let alone make a profit....

Yes of course. We could have a Three Towns Forum Talent Contest, Alex Munro style.

I'm sure Paddy would love to smash-up a guitar again.  :laugh:

Well there is another Royal Wedding coming up!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 26, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
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So you're willing to put up the cash to stage a concert yourself, Trojan?  ;) You'll need about £25k by the time all the bills are paid and there's no guarantee you will make your money back, let alone make a profit....

Dave R and I recently went quite a long way down this very path, and we concluded that;
1, The numbers really didn't stack up, (the risk outweighed the potential return)
2, There was too much resistance from Promoters and the Management companies of the acts that we were interested in.

It is never a good idea to persue a business venture where your 'partners' are reluctant.

In short, it was not a viable proposition, and we have turned our attention to more sensible investment opportunities.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 09, 2011, 11:36:45 PM
Have Status Quo played their last ever show in Llandudno?

2011 will be the first ever year since 2000 that Quo haven't played at least one show in the town.
Instead they are doing 11 arena shows instead, playing the likes of Liverpool Echo and the O2, which they'll surely struggle to fill?

If they can fill these arenas though it does make good business sense as well as being an easy little tour for the band.

I've seen them at least once a year since they came in 2000 but don't think I'll be travelling to Liverpool in the middle of December. It's an extra 50 plus quid on the already expensive ticket for an evening out just before Christmas. It doesn't help they play virtually the same setlist year after year. I'd much rather pay £15  to watch an up and coming band

Mind you I'd have more chance of forming my own up and coming band that Venue Cymru booking one for me to watch!!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 10, 2011, 09:13:19 AM
Not being into live bands, I would personally take the option of putting my feet up at home and playing a few CD's.   When I see anything on TV the bands seem to be drowned out by screaming teenagers, or is that what people go to see and listen to?    _))*    :twoface:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2011, 09:34:03 AM
Yorkie, the Illegal Eagles will be playing in Arena aka Hall on Sunday, 9 October 2011.

I would have expected those of us who grew up forty years ago with the Eagles would much prefer to sit down in theTheatre to enjoy their music.
 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2011, 10:05:19 AM
Brit Floyd put on a fantastic show, just the other week, they were just like Pink Floyd, highly recommended if they come again!  D)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 10, 2011, 11:29:45 AM
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Yorkie, the Illegal Eagles will be playing in Arena aka Hall on Sunday, 9 October 2011.
I would have expected those of us who grew up forty years ago with the Eagles would much prefer to sit down in theTheatre to enjoy their music.
 

I grew up more than 40 years ago!  And (maybe for my sins) I don't even know who The Eagles are, let alone the Illegal version!  You go and enjoy yourself.    ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 10, 2011, 11:57:42 AM
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Yorkie, the Illegal Eagles will be playing in Arena aka Hall on Sunday, 9 October 2011.

I would have expected those of us who grew up forty years ago with the Eagles would much prefer to sit down in theTheatre to enjoy their music.
 

The hall has seats. The fold up kind! and just a few hundred. The hall isn't the arena, it's the old hall that used to be used for gigs before the arena was built, they are making use of it again
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2011, 01:48:11 PM
Is that on the first floor of the old Aberconwy Centre?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 10, 2011, 04:39:15 PM
Yeah that's the one
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
I just wish that the old Grand Theatre could be brought back into use for gigs and shows as a community theatre - an intimate 900 seater auditorium giving far better contact between act/audience . Only the lower floors are used in its present incarnation as Broadway Boulevard, the upper areas and backstage remain as they were in the theatre days:

Up above the Nightclub:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4391925247_ec519aeaa4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4391925247/)
Grand Theatre (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4391925247/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Backstage Flytower area:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4393463708_1fc2d496e4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393463708/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393463708/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

The old Upper Circle:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4392396105_2c2b77f89a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392396105/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392396105/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Grand Staircase:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4392665595_77a73094eb_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392665595/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392665595/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 10, 2011, 05:49:57 PM
What a great place.  Pure vandalism to have turned that into a nightclub.    :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
 :) Yorkie its hard enougth to keep our kids in town as it is without taking Broadway from them,it looks like the rest of it is falling down anyway and i noticed pigeons going in the top windows so it must be a right mess up there ,Unfortunatley when they discover the mess at the top they will just walk leaving us with another eyesore. :-*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 11, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Surely things aren't that bad Wrex?   My two were brought up in Llandudno from the ages of 15 and 13 and they certainly didn't have to spend all their social hours in the Broadway!    The only bad thing for the kids around here is the lack of decent jobs.  There is next to no industry and most are left with the low paid retail or tourism work.  And before any one says it, there is nothing wrong with working in retail or tourism!   My own two have never worked in this area since going to Uni and College, and there are plenty of other parents I know with kids who are working far from "home".
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
 ;) Yorkie my brothers kids have all moved away,but all my sisters kids still live in town,so for the ones who have stayed i would like Venue Cymru to put on some decent gigs so we don;t drive the rest of them away and leave the town to become completley a retirement town. ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 12, 2011, 08:10:38 AM
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;) Yorkie my brothers kids have all moved away,but all my sisters kids still live in town,so for the ones who have stayed i would like Venue Cymru to put on some decent gigs so we don;t drive the rest of them away and leave the town to become completley a retirement town. ZXZ

I was talking about the Broadway not the Arena!    $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 13, 2011, 12:30:06 PM
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;) Yorkie my brothers kids have all moved away,but all my sisters kids still live in town,so for the ones who have stayed i would like Venue Cymru to put on some decent gigs so we don;t drive the rest of them away and leave the town to become completley a retirement town. ZXZ

I was talking about the Broadway not the Arena!    $good$

Trouble is- by a vast majority most people aged 18-30 are into the rubbish  they pump out through those broadway speakers than any bands. If you closed that and 147 then all the kids would go out in Bangor instead (although seeing as the last train back from there is for some silly reason at half 10 I'm not sure how they'd manage it!)
Saying that its odd that such a such a small place like Buckley can have the Tivoli, which incorporates both a music venue and a nightclub - something for everyone
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
The Tivoli attracts people from all over North Wales. I'd like to see the Grand/Boulevard used as a real community venue, perhaps being owned by a Trust, managed by the local am dram societies and featuring something different every night. Local bands, up and coming national bands, plays, musicals, talent shows, comedians...in fact, anything at all that requires a stage and without the prohibitive costs associated with hiring any of the halls at Venue Cymru.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
 :( Did anyone go to the Manic Street Preachers gig last week,the only gig on this year and i go and book a holiday. :'(  .Am i right in thinking that this new venue in Erias Park will also be able to hold gigs for upto 6,000 people or did i dream it,anyway i hope for their sake CCBC get a proper team to book their gigs. ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
It's only the revamped outdoor arena in Eirias park, they've never done much with it in the past.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 23, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
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:( Did anyone go to the Manic Street Preachers gig last week,the only gig on this year and i go and book a holiday. :'(  .Am i right in thinking that this new venue in Erias Park will also be able to hold gigs for upto 6,000 people or did i dream it,anyway i hope for their sake CCBC get a proper team to book their gigs. ZXZ

I was there - supposed to be sold out but lots of touts outside selling tickets... I was up the front didn't sound bad to my ears at all, though the queues for the bars were a joke, I don't think they thought the bar size out too well.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
 ZXZ The bar situation changes everytime i go to a concert,sometimes there are two bars in the Arena ,then there might be one in the entrance hall,then they have had people walking around with beer stapped to them,then they might have the Ocean bar open,you never know what to expect,only that the kids serving have no idea what they are doing,its no wonder they don;t book any groups,it bto much hassle for themselves. Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 07:51:35 AM
 ;) Tesco;s to sponsor gigs at Venue Cymru,read all about it. ££$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 10:02:48 AM
Interesting note in the last CCBC Cabinet meeting. Naturally, the sum involved has been hidden from the taxpayers.

106. Write Off Report

Minutes:

The Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources presented a report seeking confirmation for the part write-off of a venue hire debt, as a consequence of a court decision.
 
Members were informed that in order to mitigate the risk in future, a new policy had been introduced to ensure that all new bookings (with the exception of public sector bookings) pay a deposit at the time of booking.
 
RESOLVED-
That Cabinet confirm the write off as a consequence of a court decision.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on June 23, 2011, 12:32:27 AM
Indeed,  and in the real world of corporate finance, there is actually no such thing as a write-off.

In reality the overall budget must balance, so the Finance Director will take the amount from another dept's budget, or previously agreed expenditure.

It makes one wonder what we have lost out on, to make the VC budget ''appear'' to balance.



Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2011, 05:45:09 PM
 :P They have lost out on hireing somebody who knows how to talk too and hire groups to play the Arena.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2011, 01:20:43 AM
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:P They have lost out on hireing somebody who knows how to talk too and hire groups to play the Arena.

It's a shame Robinson Cleaver and Clive Stock are not employed there.

They were instrumental in bringing the phenomenal Bobby Crush to the town.
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Post by: Llechwedd on June 25, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Oh my gawd.
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Post by: Trojan on June 25, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
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Oh my gawd.

 :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
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They were instrumental in bringing the phenomenal Bobby Crush to the town.

Funny you should mention him-- I went on the backstage tour today--- interesting if it is your cup of tea and the lady guide told us about the very posh, expensive piano which belongs to the theatre. Bobby Crush wanted to use it for his performance, but because of his style of playing, the theatre didn't want him to. So they slapped a hefty surcharge on the fee they planned to charge him for it's use, expecting him to refuse to pay it and use the lesser piano. He didn't bat an eylid and paid the fee, so they had to let him use it !!
Rather amused me!
Some of the info passed on was very interesting--- the theatre has no costumes or props of it's own as it is classed as a receiving theatre and each company brings it's own. There is a costume and wig room, but all they provide are washing and drying facilities.
Large mug of coffee and a huge piece of cake , all included for £6.50!
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Post by: wrex on July 10, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
 :o Shock ,horror they have managed to book Will Young in the Arena on 11. 11 .11,this is a Friday so i bet there will be a few hundred of the twoand a half thousand audience staying over for the weekend,so hotels, restaurants,shops and pubs will benefit which is exactly what should be happening once a week at least. Z**
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 10, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Wow, that's great for Llandudno, just what's needed, mind you we'll not be in the audience  :laugh:
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Post by: wrex on July 10, 2011, 11:39:19 AM
 WWW What i would like to find out is who booked him,did his agents approach VC or does the VC have somebody chasing artists,obviously if there is they don;t get much luck. If i was paying buissness rates in this town i would want to know why the Arena is under used and what is CCBC going to do about it,why oh why do people not complain when they are paying massive rates too CCBC.  :rage:
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Post by: born2run on July 10, 2011, 01:30:56 PM
Rubbish!! Try Neil Young  :P

On another note is the country music festival not happening this year?
Seen no advertising, wonder why not if it isn't, It was always well supported
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Post by: wrex on July 31, 2011, 05:47:30 PM
 8)  Nice to see the hoteliers forum mention that Venue Cymru is not bringing in the trade they promised , the management are not delivering the useage this Venue should ,but heyho what are they doing about it. ZXZ
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Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
Just had a little look at the website to see whats on, GUTTED again ,nothing on besides Will Young in NOVEMBER, the whole Arena needs scraping it is just wasting money sitting there being lite up every nite with NOTHING on, CCBC get a grip and get it used. :'(
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 10:09:20 AM
The outside of the whole complex is starting to look shabby i suggest they get some gigs in the Arena to cover the paint costs and quick.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 19, 2011, 11:10:51 AM
How about the Kaiser Chiefs?  ;)
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
 W/e will never know if they have approached the Venue or have been asked but what we do know Bri is it must work for the groups who have played.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 19, 2011, 05:20:38 PM
wrex, seriously the Kaiser Chiefs will be at Venue Cymru on 27 January 2012.
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 05:36:29 PM
 Sorry Bri i just saw that on my hotmail, nice one, maybe they are listening
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Post by: wrex on August 23, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
For those of you who do not know the Kaiser Chiefs are a big group and that will bring in 2,500 people on a friday night in January and i can guarantee with it being a weekend at least a few hundred will be staying overnight if not two, so now i hope you will all understand were im coming from, more gigs more hotel beds being used more money into local economy simpeles,keep them coming CCBC. $thanx$
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Post by: dwsi on August 23, 2011, 06:36:44 PM
Kaiser Chiefs Tour Venue List http://bit.ly/qBYATM (http://bit.ly/qBYATM)  D)
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Post by: TheMedz on August 26, 2011, 09:21:25 AM
Tickets for Kaiser Chiefs on Sale from 9 am today Friday 26th August
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 26, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
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Tickets for Kaiser Chiefs on Sale from 9 am today Friday 26th August

If I recall correctly the  Kaiser Chiefs predicted a riot some years ago, questions should be asked about the recent events!  ;D

Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE#ws)
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Post by: wrex on August 26, 2011, 06:03:59 PM
 I predict some pubs and hotels will make a few bob for the local economy and hope that CCBC realise this.
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Post by: Fester on August 26, 2011, 11:46:53 PM
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Tickets for Kaiser Chiefs on Sale from 9 am today Friday 26th August

If I recall correctly the  Kaiser Chiefs predicted a riot some years ago, questions should be asked about the recent events!  ;D

Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE#ws)
    L0L L0L _))* _))*
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Post by: Fester on August 26, 2011, 11:55:52 PM
Well, well, well...
My worst fears have come true.
As concerns the Venue Cymru, the mighty MOTORHEAD have announced a UK tour this winter, and have DECLINED to come to Llandudno.
This is terrible in many respects.
1, The band have an affinity with this area having lived in Llandudno, and on Anglesey, but still won't return.
2, When I spoke to them last year, they thought the acoustics in VC were mediocre at best.
3, I have to pay a fortune to travel to Manchester and Liverpool to see them.  (well worth it to me though)

Venue Cymru Management should be ashamed that a band such as Motorhead, who to be fair are no headliners these days, have chopped out Llandudno from thier itinerary.
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Post by: SDQ on August 27, 2011, 12:13:17 AM
For whatever reason a few bands have played here and are not coming back on this years tour.
Joe Bonamassa (Solo), Thunder, Status Quo, Motorhead to name a few. I saw Greg Lake a few years ago and was embarrassed by the turnout & it was blamed on very poor advertising. Then it's alleged that Deep Purple, probably one of the most famous and enduring rock acts in history, were declined because the booker at the venue had never heard of them!!! It all raises serious questions over how the venue is managed to be honest.

Fair play Fester, Lemmy complaining about the acoustics when they play 'everything turned up to 11' brought a smile to my face!  L0L
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Post by: Fester on August 27, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
SDQ, the irony of Motorhead complaining about the acoustics wasn't lost on me.
However, those who love Motorhead want them to be very loud, and beefed up... and they weren't.

If the act themselves feels uncomfortable and dis-satisfied then that refelects in the performance, and they will inform thier own management that they do now want to return.

The Deep Purple anecdote, if true, is tragic.
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 08:42:50 AM
There isn't a Booker at Venue Cymru and the guy in Senior Management we spoke to there certainly knew his stuff, so I suspect the Deep Purple story is apocryphal.

The Arena works as a 'venue for hire' - so the Promoter decides if they want to book the venue for their band, just like you book a hotel for your wedding reception. If a Band appears one year and then doesn't return on their next Tour, it probably means that the Promoter didn't make enough of a profit or the Band themselves simply didn't want to come back. Venue Cymru themselves don't make the decision.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 09:21:56 AM
We had notification the other day that the box office is to be closed for a month !
My comments were un-printable.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 10:24:31 AM
I thought the box office re-opened last Wednesday morning.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 10:57:34 AM
Must have been longer than the other day Bri, or my comments travelled !! Thanks for the info-- shan't be going again in the near future as I went last Fri. My OH goes a week on Sun again to see Doddy.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 12:36:48 PM
I only knew that, Nemesis, because I dropped in on Tuesday afternoon to see the Olympic Themed Event which was on a for a whole fortnight.

I am surprised nobody picked up on how poorly that event was supported !!
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Post by: Fester on August 27, 2011, 10:26:48 PM
Oh no, not Doddy again.... he nearly killed me last year,  the man is a genius, and very funny, but really needs to get off stage and let his audiences go to the toilet, or home before 1.30am.

In fact I don't know how he manages to get packed houses every time... because everyone I talk to who has seen his show, enjoyed it but would never go again!!  Because of the physical torment of watching him for so long.

If everyone who came in my shop said they would never come again, then I would be out of business in no time.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 28, 2011, 11:13:37 AM
My OH goes every time he appears, used to be 4 times a year, now it is only two. The theatre made him finish last year at midnight-- this year he was back to almost 1am !
I don't go thesedays as I can't sit for so long, otherwise I would never move again with those dreadful seats. OH has a row end seat so that he can stretch his legs outwards rather than crunched up under him. As for the toilet, he doesn't have a drink after lunchtime on Doddy Days ! :o
Trouble is I get all the jokes for days afterwards-EEEEK
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 06, 2011, 01:10:38 PM
I don't know how much Venue Cymru recently spent on a new ticket booking system but it is already out of use online.

http://www.venuecymru.co.uk/home.php?/home (http://www.venuecymru.co.uk/home.php?/home)

Calendar Girls is on this week and I wonder what the show's organisers must be thinking especially as Venue Cymru got the week of Calendar Girls completely wrong in their Summer/Autumn Brochure with being 5 - 10 August 2011 
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Post by: Yorkie on September 06, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
Just another bunch of incompetants!

Couldn't
Catch a
Bloody
Cold

Whilst all the "acting" chief executives and their cronies sit on their backsides doing as little as possible to justify their existance.   $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2011, 02:21:57 PM
I had to chuckle when I read Oscar's blog and someone was referring to them as CBBC without realising their mistake.  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on September 06, 2011, 03:26:02 PM
Maybe not a typo!   Reminds me of when I first left school and was waiting for the decision of an interview for the RAF when I worked for a short time for the BBC.    Love telling people and then see their faces when I told them it was not the Portland Place mob in London, but the Barking Brassware Company!    ;D
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Post by: Dave on September 08, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
I haven't been to the Theatre for ages but decided I'd take my grandchildren to see the Kaiser Chiefs. No under 14's allowed and it's standing room only. It will have to be another c****y pantomime then I suppose.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 08, 2011, 02:55:41 PM
Will Young will be appearing in the Arena soon.

In other towns on his tour, Mr Young seems to be appearing in seated venues.
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Post by: Dave on September 08, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
I'm not sure Will Young is considered trendy by grandkids. Personally I think he's OK....just about.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 08, 2011, 06:10:07 PM
I agree.

Here is his complete tour and I wonder just how many other venues are standing and how many are seated?

27 Oct 2011 Oasis Leisure Centre Swindon Info 
28 Oct 2011 BIC Bournemouth Info 
30 Oct 2011 The Waterfront Belfast Info 
31 Oct 2011 The Olympia Dublin Info 
02 Nov 2011 Nottingham Royal Centre Nottingham Info 
03 Nov 2011 New Theatre Oxford Info 
04 Nov 2011 Regent Theatre Ipswich Info 
06 Nov 2011 Empire Theatre Liverpool Info 
07 Nov 2011 Opera House Blackpool Info 
08 Nov 2011 City Hall Sheffield Info 
10 Nov 2011 Music Hall Aberdeen 
11 Nov 2011 O2 Academy Glasgow 
12 Nov 2011 City Hall Newcastle 
14 Nov 2011 O2 Apollo Manchester
15 Nov 2011 Arena Llandudno   
17 Nov 2011 Centre Brighton
18 Nov 2011 Corn Exchange Cambridge 
20 Nov 2011 o2 Academy Birmingham   
21 Nov 2011 o2 Shepherds Bush Empire London   
22 Nov 2011 o2 Shepherds Bush Empire London   
24 Nov 2011 Cliffs Pavilion Southend   
25 Nov 2011 Pavilions Plymouth 
26 Nov 2011 St. David's Hall Cardiff

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Post by: wrex on September 08, 2011, 06:19:18 PM
There were actually some seats for this gig but they have now gone,i think Bri the theatre is being used that night so it will be a very busy night in the complex.
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Post by: wrex on November 15, 2011, 07:45:57 PM
just come past the back of Venue Cymru and how nice to see thousands going in,there must be a good crowd in for Tommy Steele as Scrooge and Will young is playing the Arena,now that is what should be happening  much more frequently.No idea how many people attending either of tonites shows are staying over for a nite but i can assure you a few will have been for a meal in town first or for a drink or maybe come in to town to do a bit iof shopping,but one thing is true,some money will have
been spent in town today as a result of these shows.
On a negative,you would think on a nite like to nite CCBC would have an agreement to use Mostyn Champneys for parking, a possible 4,ooo people in there tonight and lots not sure wether or not they will be fined by Mostyn Champneys
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Post by: wrex on December 07, 2011, 08:07:34 AM
Well all we have to look forward to next year is one gig booked,i wonder if the Arena is running at a loss.
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Post by: dwsi on January 02, 2012, 11:16:46 PM
Twitter / @officialJasonG: Thank you @venuecymru @Qdo ... http://bit.ly/t2NGmM (http://bit.ly/t2NGmM)
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Post by: dwsi on January 05, 2012, 06:11:01 PM
Classic musical The King and I coming to Llandudno and Liverpool - Chester Chronicle http://bit.ly/xWGodB (http://bit.ly/xWGodB)
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Post by: wrex on January 05, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
No complaints with the theatre,they always seem to have something on,the Arena on the other hand is a waste of space.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 05, 2012, 10:31:10 PM
I don't think there has been anything on in the theatre since 31 December and when the 'King and I' commences next Tuesday except for a free Family Fun weekend coming up.
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Post by: wrex on January 08, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
How hard is it to change a website,ive just looked at the magazine for Venue Cymru and Colin Fry is down for June 15 in the hall yet no mention on the website and the magazine must have been just printed and sent out so it has to be at least a week old yet no mention on the web,so once again how long does it take to update a website?.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 08, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
An online booking service is advertised on their website but can you find it?

Online
Live, secure real-time online booking, the tickets are mailed direct to your address. Purchases made three or less days before the event will be held for collection at the Venue Cymru. All internet bookings are subject to a £2.50 fee.
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Post by: Fester on January 08, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
Today Mrs Fester and I popped into the Venue Cymru to do 2 things....

Firstly, we booked to see The King and I,  its one of my very favourites, and I can't wait..

Secondly, we tried to book for a Valentine's day meal, which was advertised in the recent booklet.
Here, we failed miserably.
Despite the advert being very prominent and urging us to book soon to avoid disappointment, the reception staff knew nothing about it. They looked mystified at the booklet when I showed it to them.
They sent us upstairs to the restaurant, where 2 teenage staff looked equally puzzled by our enquiry.
Bless them, at least they attempted to call a supervisor, and then a manager...(neither were available)
Eventually we just left as the whole thing was embarrassing.

This just demonstrates that even when the VC marketing team come up with a tempting offer, they don't have the management ability to actually deliver it.   $angry$
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Post by: born2run on January 09, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
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Today Mrs Fester and I popped into the Venue Cymru to do 2 things....

Firstly, we booked to see The King and I,  its one of my very favourites, and I can't wait..

Secondly, we tried to book for a Valentine's day meal, which was advertised in the recent booklet.
Here, we failed miserably.
Despite the advert being very prominent and urging us to book soon to avoid disappointment, the reception staff knew nothing about it. They looked mystified at the booklet when I showed it to them.
They sent us upstairs to the restaurant, where 2 teenage staff looked equally puzzled by our enquiry.
Bless them, at least they attempted to call a supervisor, and then a manager...(neither were available)
Eventually we just left as the whole thing was embarrassing.

This just demonstrates that even when the VC marketing team come up with a tempting offer, they don't have the management ability to actually deliver it.   $angry$

Had the same trouble when I went to book some tickets a few months back. They had never heard of the show had no idea it was on I had to point it out to them in the book. Everytime I book they ask me my name and address - for some reason there computer doesn't recognise I've booked tickets off them many times before - hence this morning I got 5 theatre booklets through the post! The term piss up and brewery spring to mind
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 09, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
My Premier Card expired last October and I am still waiting for a reminder.  :-}}}
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Post by: Fester on January 09, 2012, 10:10:16 PM
What a shame such a fabulous facility is so badly mismanaged.

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Post by: Fester on January 11, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
The theatre at Venue Cymru continues to deliver a quality offering.

Tonight The Festers went to see The King and I.

It was a superb production, and lavishly done.
From the orchestra and supporting actors to the dancers and child actors it was a very well done indeed.
The leading lady and the guy who played the King were outstanding, and very faithful to the original Rodgers and Hammerstein production we all know.
Bravo!

It was only about 75% full, and the show is on until Saturday night, with a couple of matinee performances thrown in.
If you like good theatre try and get there, I think you will be delighted.



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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 12, 2012, 07:10:35 AM
We are going on the 20th to see Jethro   8)  He was very funny when we last saw him there  L0L
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 12, 2012, 08:20:20 AM
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The theatre at Venue Cymru continues to deliver a quality offering.

Tonight The Festers went to see The King and I.

It was a superb production, and lavishly done.
From the orchestra and supporting actors to the dancers and child actors it was a very well done indeed.
The leading lady and the guy who played the King were outstanding, and very faithful to the original Rodgers and Hammerstein production we all know.
Bravo!

It was only about 75% full, and the show is on until Saturday night, with a couple of matinee performances thrown in.
If you like good theatre try and get there, I think you will be delighted.

We went on Tuesday evening and took advantage of the 2 for 1 offer.

I would say the theatre was 95% full.
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Post by: Fester on January 12, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
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The theatre at Venue Cymru continues to deliver a quality offering.

Tonight The Festers went to see The King and I.

It was a superb production, and lavishly done.
From the orchestra and supporting actors to the dancers and child actors it was a very well done indeed.
The leading lady and the guy who played the King were outstanding, and very faithful to the original Rodgers and Hammerstein production we all know.
Bravo!

It was only about 75% full, and the show is on until Saturday night, with a couple of matinee performances thrown in.
If you like good theatre try and get there, I think you will be delighted.

We went on Tuesday evening and took advantage of the 2 for 1 offer.

I would say the theatre was 95% full.

Hmmm, I was not aware of such an offer.... that would have saved us £30.
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Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2012, 03:19:04 PM
They shouldn't need to discount such a supposedly great show, surely?
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Post by: Fester on January 12, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
You wouldn't think so.. but it might have been the matinee performance?

Anyhow, it seems like I missed out.   But it was well worth the full price to be fair.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 12, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
Fester, you must have the latest Winter/Spring 2012 brochure to have seen the advert about the Valentine's Day dinner.

If you turn over the page then there are details of the Premier Card right there.

It is only £25 and you will get 10% off the price of most shows for usually up to four tickets.

If you are interested, the next 2 for 1 is on Monday, 18 February for Yes, Prime Minister.

BTW, I believe Venue Cymru are to take over the running of the restaurant from the present concessionaires. 

Perhaps, it was something you said.   $dins$

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Post by: TheMedz on January 28, 2012, 12:02:55 AM
First time into the arena tonight, to see the Kaiser Chiefs.

Positives. Very impressed by the arena and the atmosphere in there tonight(I don't know if that makes me easily pleased!) and even more impressed with the band. Absolutely Brilliant.

Negatives. The drunken/medicated idiot in front of me for the first 10 minutes (before we moved) of the gig who thought he was BEZ from Happy Mondays and also threw two full glasses of beer onto the stage hitting the drummer from the first support and the bass guitarist from the second.
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Post by: Fester on January 28, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
I honestly forgot that The Kaiser Chiefs were on tonight.

They are most likely the biggest band who have been to The Arena in many years...
The Chiefs are renowned as a rocking, raucous band... I would have expected to be buffetted and barged into all night. (and got drunk accordingly to avoid getting annoyed by it)

Medz, was it a seated gig then?  You say there was a numpty in front of you.
If it was all standing, (as it usually is in the arena), then it would be quite easy to side-step and and view from elsewhere.
What were the circumstances?

I PREDICT A RIOT.............I PREDICT A RIOT!
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Post by: TheMedz on January 28, 2012, 01:40:58 AM
No it was a standing gig and as you say you would have thought it would be easy to move away from any "numpty". Initially no matter where we moved this guy and his mates seemed to be there. It was the beer throwing at the support acts that particularly p****d me off. As I said after 10 minutes into their act we just upped  and moved away to the other side of the arena without any further problem. It's the third time we've seen the Kaisers in similar stand up venues and they were better than ever. A really good mix of new and old stuff. Not surprisingly "I predict a riot" and "Oh my God I can't believe it" stole the show.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 28, 2012, 07:44:43 AM
Was there any security in attendance or just the usual volunteer stewards?


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Negatives. The drunken/medicated idiot in front of me for the first 10 minutes (before we moved) of the gig who thought he was BEZ from Happy Mondays and also threw two full glasses of beer onto the stage hitting the drummer from the first support and the bass guitarist from the second.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on January 28, 2012, 08:21:26 AM
The Promoter would have been required to provide full security as part of their contract to hire the VC Arena.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Oh well that;s it now,Kaiser chiefs have been ,everybody who went that i have spoken to said it was brilliant ,yet there are no gigs booked for the arena,last year i know Will Young played the Arena,Motorhead and may be a couple of others which lets be honest that is pathetic.I know you can;t force groups and singers to to come to the Arena but i think the Venue Cymru management are not pulling their weight,the town needs to keep some local youngsters from leaving Llandudno for good and putting more gigs on would be a start
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Post by: Fester on January 30, 2012, 11:21:52 PM
Actually Wrex, Motorhead came to the arena in 2010,  they did not want to make the venue a part of their tour lat year.
Unhappy with the acoustics, which is something many bands have said.

Very sad.   Doesn't time fly!
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Post by: wrex on February 01, 2012, 03:25:49 PM
So that makes just 2 gigs in the whole year, somebody needs to come out and explain to the taxpayers what the Arena is being used for ,who promotes it and how much it is costing US while it sits there every night empty.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 01, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
wrex, you would be surprised to find how often the Arena is used for events other than gigs.

Over the past 12 months, we have attended the qualifying rounds of the North Wales Choral Festival and I also attended the Daily Post Achievement Wales Business Awards, which was a black tie dinner.

Another event was a free Olympic Games 2012 event that was not advertised very well so was poorly supported on the day I went along.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: dwsi on February 01, 2012, 07:34:22 PM
I spoke to someone I know in the Galeri in Caernarfon about the arena. He said the arena was designed as a multi-purpose venue and this set-up is well known as having 'dead' acoustics. There are a lot of similar venues of all sizes in the UK with same problem.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 01, 2012, 08:35:07 PM
Yes Bri i know theyu have snooker,youth groups doing their shows but that is still only once a week if that ,when it should also be bringing in thousands of people at least once a week who may stay overnight,drink in the pubs,shop,eat
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 12, 2012, 05:46:34 PM
Although there are no shows planned for the arena you still could;nt book it anyway because the systems are down again,tried to book tickets for the rugby and they said no,shall i call in and buy them ,no the system is down.How are CCBC
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on March 12, 2012, 07:11:59 PM
Start a Zoo of unusual animals - we already have the biggest white elephant in the whole of Wales!     _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 22, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
I called into Venue Cymru earlier to pick up the latest ‘What’s on Summer/Autumn 2012’ brochure because historically it never arrives early by post through my letter box.

I am guessing but I would imagine holders of Premier Cards are the life blood of Venue Cymru.

Before I came away, I looked through the new brochure (commencing with a show which started yesterday) and could not find any opening night 2-for-1 offers (except for the Xmas Pantomime) that have always been a major benefit to Premier Card Holders for many years.

When I queried this with box office staff, I was informed they have finished.

When I asked where in the brochure can I find out what the individual discounts are for holders of a Premier Card, I was informed in future 10% off the top two prices only on some, but not all shows?

I pointed out that none of this information is included openly and transparently in the new brochure.

So Premier Card holders beware.

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
You should have asked them when will there be anything on in the white elephant Arena Bri.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 22, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
According to the brochure, wrex, there are a five shows in the Hall, including Jimmy Tarbuck, but there is actually only one event advertised in the Arena up until the end of November to date and that is this Friday evening called Noson o Adloniant promoted by the Venue Cymru Fundraising Committee.

Perhaps, more will be added in due course.

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Complete waste of taxpayers money, making us believe they would be bringing loads of people into town with many gigs.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
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I called into Venue Cymru earlier to pick up the latest ‘What’s on Summer/Autumn 2012’ brochure because historically it never arrives early by post through my letter box.

I am guessing but I would imagine holders of Premier Cards are the life blood of Venue Cymru.

Before I came away, I looked through the new brochure (commencing with a show which started yesterday) and could not find any opening night 2-for-1 offers (except for the Xmas Pantomime) that have always been a major benefit to Premier Card Holders for many years.

When I queried this with box office staff, I was informed they have finished.

When I asked where in the brochure can I find out what the individual discounts are for holders of a Premier Card, I was informed in future 10% off the top two prices only on some, but not all shows?

I pointed out that none of this information is included openly and transparently in the new brochure.

So Premier Card holders beware.
That's amazing. You have to wonder what sort of thought goes into some of these decisions...  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2012, 07:15:01 AM
Sorry folks but all the money and focus of CCBC is most definately with Colwyn Bay at the moment, there are no gigs in the Venue Cymru Arena all due too the Olly Murs concert in Erias Arena and CCBC have to justify spending all our money over there,don;t get me wrong it is a good venue and i enjoyed all the u 20 rugby games but my focus is on Llandudno and why that Arena is sitting there empty night after night after night when it was built to attract bands which would then generate pub,hotel ,restaurant buisness,but until the hoteliers start to stand up for themselves and demand some action from their beloved councillors nothing will change and the white elephant will stand empty and so will your hotels.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2012, 07:58:50 AM
Perhaps, CCBC sub-letting the Arena to an interested party could be the answer.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2012, 02:26:13 PM
C-Y-D county councillors need telling and see what they are worth,unfortunatly im stuck with the same two.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2012, 03:29:47 PM
I didn't think properties west (or is it north?) of the Washington Hotel were in the C-y-D ward !!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Cambrian on May 26, 2012, 04:17:34 PM
If there is some genuine concern at the use of the Area, would it not make more sense to email the general manager, Sara Ecob ?
The area is I think used for other things than entertainment such as exhibitions and conference facilities.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 07:45:21 AM
Cambrian i do realise the Arena is used for a variety of things,but when i was on the council we voted for the ugly building(or i did) for one reason and one reason only and that was it would be a Arena for gigs and there have been some bloody good bands and they have bought in a lot of people but unfortunatley it has dried up completly,not one, not a hint of one ,NOTHING.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on May 27, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
Just out of interest, have any of the bands returned on subsequent tours? I can't think of any.
Is that a sign of the quality of the venue or the way it is run?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: dwsi on May 27, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
Manic Street Preachers are the only band i know of that have returned.
The problem with the arena is that it's a multi purpose venue and the acoustics in such venues are notoriously bad.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 02:02:51 PM
All i can say is ive seen the Manics,Stereophonics,Paul Weller,Kooks,and a few others and really enjoyed,sounded ok to me but im not an expert so i think it is the fault of the management and maybe the pricing policy,but i do think they have only one agenda at the moment and that is Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
Brit Floyd played last year and again just a few weeks ago, both times they sounded fantastic  D)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 09:45:50 PM
Theater or Arena
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2012, 10:07:05 PM
The one with an upstairs to it, where we've also seen Jethro twice, I do know that it wasn't the Pier Pavillion site!  ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on May 27, 2012, 11:32:20 PM
Thats the theatre.

The adjacent arena is the huge, but under utilised venue that we all bang on about.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 28, 2012, 08:19:35 AM
We called to purchase a couple of tickets yesterday afternoon for Jimmy Tarbuck in July and did not realise the box office is now closed on Sundays unless there is a show on when it opens one hour before the show starts.

It was strange to see the box office, café and restaurant all closed on such a busy day in Llandudno.

If this is a result of council cuts then why still employ two people to sell deckchairs further down on the promenade?

Surely one person could be employed to sell deckchairs and one person could open up the box office to sell theatre tickets?

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2012, 08:20:43 AM
Common sense seems to be sadly lacking at CCBC.  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 30, 2012, 12:24:57 PM
It has just been announced that the Stereophonics are coming in July.

Will they be appearing in the Arena?

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 30, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Cheers Bri,tickets go on sale friday,they have played the Arena before so that sort of dismisses the bad acoustics theory.Ido hope they manage to get a few more.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2012, 02:46:17 PM
There's a pair of tickets with a face value of £28.50 each already on e-bay for £115.  :o



Stereophonics – one of Britain’s best-loved bands – will perform four intimate warm up shows before their highly anticipated set at the Olympic Opening Ceremony Concert in Hyde Park July 27th.
 
Starting out at Llandudno Venue Cymru on Sunday 22nd July, taking in Derby Assembly rooms, the Grimsby Auditorium and finally the Cambridge Corn Exchange these promise to be very special one off events.
 
With 11 Top Five singles, 21 Top 20s and five consecutive No.1 albums under their belt, Stereophonics are one of Britain’s biggest bands.  The band are currently putting the finishing touches on a new album due early 2013.
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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on May 31, 2012, 03:21:44 PM
How can anyone be selling tickets when they don't even go on sale until tomorrow???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
Dunno.

Perhaps, some entrepreneurs get early access to tickets 24 hours before everyone else with Ticketmaster.

Now there are 6 sellers of tickets for sale on e-bay ranging from £0.99 - £115.99.

One is selling up to 6 tickets at £84.99 each plus £5.50 express delivery.

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 31, 2012, 04:43:07 PM
At the end of the day I think it all boils down to financial matters.  Performers do what they do best for monetary reward.   Therefore the theatre has to have the seating capacity, the ability to have seat prices to yield a decent profit, and a large enough catchment area to attract those wanting to see the Act and to pay the price.

I don't think that Llandudno has the ability to fulfil all those requirements and others that are not mentioned.    It will never be a major venue for the big acts to use regularly and apart from the Welsh Opera and the Pantomimes and occasional "big" name must learn to survive with one night stands and conferences or just gathering dust at the expense of the ratepayer.
 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 03, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
 :o The stereophonics sold out in 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 03, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
2,500 tickets that is,proves we can have large bands and sell out easily,just one a month would be better than one or two a year that the management are attracting at the moment.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 03, 2012, 09:48:19 AM
While it is fair to add that many of those 2,500 tickets will have been sold by Ticketmaster, it has to be acknowledged that a fair proportion of those ticket holders will visit Llandudno for the weekend next month or at the very least arrive just for the Sunday to spend a day in the town before going along to the performance in the evening.

Aren't we the lucky ones - tickets in hand for Jimmy Tarbuck on the Friday evening and the Sterophonics on the Sunday?

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on June 03, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
Unfortunately that is only two days!  The Theatre complex has to pay its way for another 363 days each year, or we shall have to continue subsidising it for evermore!

It is as well to note that the majority of the income will probably be going to the Banks or Acts engaged and not into the Council coffers!   $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 04, 2012, 07:48:26 AM
As long as the pubs,hotels,guest houses,cafes,shops and restaurants are benefitting then this will be a good day,but it is a very rare occurance so we need to know why this is only the second gig this year,how do the complex team go about attracting bands to play the Arena and why is it going so WRONG.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on June 04, 2012, 11:32:12 AM
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. . . . . .how do the complex team go about attracting bands to play the Arena and why is it going so WRONG.

The main problem first of all, is that the complex is geographically in the wrong place, and secondly not enough is being done to promote the facilities, especially as far as entertainment is concerned.   Entertainment nowadays tends to revolve around the big Bands and headlining solo artists and they will only play the big gigs where they can be guaranteed the big money.

The days of Variety Acts has long since gone but maybe this is what Llandudno could do with, to at least bring the Holidaymakers into the Theatre.

The place needs active and strong promotion whether it be for one night stands, touring theatre, Shakespearian productions, Grand Opera or whatever.   The entertainers will not come to us - we have to go out and persuade them that Llandudno is a venue worthy of a visit from them.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Not sure i agree with you on your first point Yorkie but you are bang on with the second.On the the first point its true we don;t have the population to sustain quality shows all the time but the Arena gigs are always sold out and we do need some answers to how they bring in groups and how much advertising is done in Cheshire for all the shows in the theatre.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 22, 2012, 02:26:43 PM
Off to see the Stereophonics tonite,it must be 6 months since the last concert held in the Arena and no more booked,if you get a chance tonite go around the venue and see how busy 2,500 people coming into town looks like,then tell me why this only happens twice a year.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 22, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
Enjoy yourself this evening, wrex.

BTW, Jimmy Tarbuck was excellent last Friday evening.

The last time I visited the box office on a Sunday it was closed.

A notice in the door said Venue Cymru and its box office are only open on Sundays when there is something on in the evening.

I called this afternoon to purchase a couple of tickets for a show.

Guess what?

Venue Cymru and its box office were shut.

Others were arriving after me and were as surprised as I was.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2012, 06:48:31 PM
It might be a good thing to confront the Councillors whilst they are drinking the booze we have paid for when they are in the hospitality suite.   Free tickets and free booze is the order of the day for some of them!    >>>
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2012, 07:41:05 AM
It was excellent,six of us decided to meet for tea at the lounge,have a few drinksnd a meal,so as a result of the Stereophonics being in the Arena the Gresham in Upper Mostyn st made approx 130 quid,we had one in Fat Cats and one in the Kings Arms we caught a taxi down to the Gresham,so we generated a little buisness for quite a few LOCAL firms all helping to keep the town afloat.The kings Arms was packed,i heard Wetherspoons was busy so i hope you understand how much money could be made if there where more than 2 gigs on in the Arena a year.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on July 23, 2012, 09:47:23 AM
Well done Wrex!

Dave and I were in the Fat Cat,  but maybe a little later than your crew were there.

So, YES!   The Arena needs more gigs..... a LOT more!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2012, 05:22:28 PM
I wonder how many of the 2,500 crowd stayed in hotels last night,it really baffles me how our hoteliers are so laidback that they allow CCBC to show so little interest in Llandudno and never complain,ok they put parking meters on the prom so they can gain some income,then they refuse to clean the beach,cut the grass,provide any indoor facilities and then never put any think on in the Arena,wake up hoteliers andget your County clls on the case.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 23, 2012, 05:46:10 PM
Try banging your head on a wall Wrex---- we might as well talk to the trees !
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 23, 2012, 06:02:36 PM
I think that a lot of the Forum Members should come along and sit in on a few of the Town Council Meetings.   They will then see what happens, who speaks, who doesn't and exactly how the "business" is dealt with.  I have the dates of all Committee Meetings and also Full Council Meetings if anyone cannot find them anywhere else.    $thanx$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2012, 09:33:31 PM
Fester and I were in the Fat Cat again tonight...purely for research purposes, you understand. We concluded that it was quite quiet for the middle of July and we met the new owner of the Lindens Hotel, a very pleasant chap.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2012, 10:21:39 PM
You know what i mean,Dave.(he knows everything)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 24, 2012, 09:29:54 AM
Anyone tried navigating the V. C. website recently ??
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2012, 09:37:36 AM
I tried to buy a Premier Card and the link didn't work.  Tried a few other things and the whole lot's a load of rubbish.   What's all this "Staff recommends".   Are they all now theatre critics.   Obviously, one or other Councillor has had a hand in this!  (No major I'm not giving names!)     _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 24, 2012, 12:52:57 PM
'twas the fact that those calendar pages seemed so blank and then whoopee we had Theatre Colwyn!!!!!
My OH rang up in the end and asked if the web site was finished or was it work in progress. They were most indignant !
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: majormellons on July 24, 2012, 08:41:29 PM
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I tried to buy a Premier Card and the link didn't work.  Tried a few other things and the whole lot's a load of rubbish.   What's all this "Staff recommends".   Are they all now theatre critics.   Obviously, one or other Councillor has had a hand in this!  (No major I'm not giving names!)     _))*

 :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 14, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
Interesting article on Oscar about the difference in entertainment at VC as compared to somewhere like Blackpool.
Is it just an age thing? Blackpool we know has a massive target for Stag nights and such where as Llandudno has always catered for the retired market more (Grand hotel for example) Can both of these markets be met? I've often said I'm suprised at how places like Rhyl, Buckley, Wrexham etc have a much better local music stage for artists geared towards a younger audience.

Wrexham central for example does a great service to local bands by allowing them to support nationwide headline acts that give them a much bigger TM and also one that doesn't rely on them having to stick to covers
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 15, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
The whole Venue needs a change of management,new ideas,new branding by somebody who knows the buisness inside out.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
Lets be fair, I was looking for a good show to see in the next few weeks, and lo and behold Venue Cymru have booked..................... The Hairy Bikers.   
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 15, 2012, 09:25:31 PM
Iwill be at that one too,but you know where im coming from,only two bands been on in that Arena all year,not good and the theatre seems a little quieter than normal.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: 1_rob_1 on August 15, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
As Nemesis pointed out: The new web site is virtually impossible to navigate, & seems to have been thrown together. I dont know why they changed from the old one.
If they keep this website as it is, the venue will get quieter as people will not know what is on there, & will not be able to book online.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
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Iwill be at that one too,but you know where im coming from,only two bands been on in that Arena all year,not good and the theatre seems a little quieter than normal.

I was being sarcastic.... I wouldn't watch the Hairy Bikers for free on BBC2
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
 :D

Actually Venue Cymru's marketing strategy is odd. The place I have seen them most advertised is the swimming pool! Literally 1 minute away from the venue - could be a bit more pro active.

 $good$ I also wouldn't pay money to see a load of hairy men cook Fester! We can see that for free after darts!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
The website is awful - was just looking and would like to book a show that's not until November.
However it doesn't even tell me what day the show is! Had to check on my phone  &shake&

Then it gives me this cryptic message

"When selecting your tickets please do not leave single seats. If single seats are left your order will be amended."

I have been going to theaters many years - I have no idea what this means. Does it mean I can't order seats near my friends?

Frustrating $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2012, 10:35:33 PM
They also bundle in every film in Theater Colwyn and even such delights as "Afternoon tea" in December - all of these take up the same size advertising space as acts like Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr. Did they get children to run this place as a school project?  :o
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 15, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
If you cannot book tickets at Venue Cymru then I suggest you consider going to Rhyl Pavilion Theatre next Thursday and watch The ELO Experience.  ¢¢## $elvis$

I have seen them three times before and they are excellent.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Venue Cymru's new website: Site by Alienation Digital: Agency London & Glasgow

Why not employ a local web design business, preferably one that can do a proper job unlike these guys!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2012, 04:04:18 PM
DaveR im surprised at you wanting a local supplier,you should know CCBC don;t do simple or common sense,why give it to one of their ratepayers when they can give it to a big firm outside of the area.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 17, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
I have just returned from the Box Office where all the songs from 'Grease the Musical' are being played throughout the foyer.

Didn't that finish last Saturday?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 20, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
What was on in the Theater tonight? Whatever it was it was very popular, especially with old people, looked like something out of Cocoon from the view of my gym's window. Perhaps the management have accepted that this audience is their prime and perhaps only target and are not concentrating on attracting younger bands etc  :(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2012, 05:05:26 PM
I will admit they have some top class comedians and i enjoyed Starlight Express,but there have been weeks when nothing is on at all and as for the empty Arena,no bands booked ,nothing too look forward too,i really think CCBCare trying to avoid useing the Arena for bands or just really are not trying.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Craigydonian on September 24, 2012, 02:11:45 PM
Mumford & Sons are very pleased to announce details of a forthcoming tour of the UK and Ireland.
 
The band, who release their second album ‘Babel’ today in the UK, will play fifteen shows, split into five theatres followed by nine arenas, commencing in Torquay on the 21st November, and concluding at The O2 in Dublin on the 16th December.
 
Tickets for the shows will go on pre-sale through www.mumfordandsons.com (http://www.mumfordandsons.com) and on general sale from 28th September. All November theatre shows are priced at £23.50. All December arena shows are priced at £29.50, except London at £29.50 and £32.50.
 
Mumford & Sons UK Tour:
 
21st November – Princess Theatre, Torquay
22nd November – Guildhall, Portsmouth
23rd November – Regent Theatre, Ipswich
25th November – Caird Hall, Dundee
26th November – The Sands Centre, Carlisle
27th November – Venue Cymru, Llandudno
4th December – Metro Radio Arena, Newcastle
5th December – SECC, Glasgow
7th December – LG Arena, Birmingham
10th December – Evening News Arena, Manchester
11th December – O2 Arena, London
13th December – CIA, Cardiff
15th December – Odyssey Arena, Belfast
16th December – The O2, Dublin
 
www.mumfordandsons.com (http://www.mumfordandsons.com)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 24, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
Great advert for Mumford and Sons!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Craigydonian on September 24, 2012, 08:20:18 PM
Just passing on press information which I thought Wrex might find interesting. I thought he might welcome an early opportunity to buy tickets before they sell out, as my younger colleagues tell me this is a very popular band.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 24, 2012, 09:52:38 PM
Mumford and sons are brilliant - this will sell out VERY fast -
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: 1_rob_1 on September 25, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
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Mumford and sons are brilliant - this will sell out VERY fast -

Tickets not on sale until Friday. I wouldn't be too surprised if they sell out on the first day.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 26, 2012, 08:59:26 PM
It will sell out within a few hours - Stereophonics did and they're a bunch of has beens
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 28, 2012, 05:04:11 PM
Didn't manage to get tickets for this and nor I understand did most people. Website crashed and phone turned off then engaged! Half a dozen people queing outside managed to get tickets but hundreds turned away.
Apparently the majority of the tickets going to the fan club and apparently Tesco, bizzarley got to buy a massive quantity as well. Not many left for the theatre to sell.

However would not be suprised if a fair few went to "freinds of the cinema." Remember being quite suprised last year at the Manics gig to see a freind from work who doesn't particularly like the band - who said he had been given a free ticket, complete with backstage pass by a "freind who has somethign to do with the theatre" Wonder how often this happens ???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 28, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Scandalous, typical CCBC cockup.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 28, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=mumford+and+sons+llandudno&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=mumford+and+sons+llandudno&_sacat=0)

Tickets going for way over 100 quid on E bay already  $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 28, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
I have to admit that i've never heard of Mumford and sons, sounds like a removals company!  :)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 28, 2012, 07:23:49 PM
Not heard of Mumford and Son's, but I am getting old so that is not surprising.

Mrs Fester has heard of them, and with contempt, ''EVERYONE has heard of them''

But thats not important. What is important is the disgusting and unfair way that the young people of this area are denied the opportunity to see this event at the fair and advertised price.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 28, 2012, 07:33:44 PM
Theatre tickets have a bigger black market than any other commodity, even during the war years.  Ask your local Councillor if he or she can get you one!   I bet all those on the Theatre Committee have had their fill of what was available. ££$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 28, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Quite often, I'll hear of someone going to the Theatre. "We were given some free tickets by a friend." is their usual answer. Who is receiving all these free tickets and why? With a £1.5m loss a year, questions need to be asked.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 28, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
If a play or a show is poorly subscribed and looks like being an embarrassment, then I have no problem with REDUCED price tickets being made available to fill the venue.
In a similar way to marking down 'close to sell by date' food in ASDA.
But, it has to be managed fairly, within a policy.

What I do have a massive problem with, is the creaming off of premium 'sought after' tickets to the privileged few.
That, plus the majority of the tickets being hoovered up by those who seek to instantly seek a huge profit.

Its amazing how many times I have tried to buy tickets from a venue directly to be told that they are completely sold out.
Then, mysteriously there are LOADS returned on the day of the gig by the likes of Ticketmaster, leading to both disappointed fans who never knew, plus empty seats at the gig.  &shake& &shake&

 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2012, 07:16:37 AM
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Quite often, I'll hear of someone going to the Theatre. "We were given some free tickets by a friend." is their usual answer. Who is receiving all these free tickets and why? With a £1.5m loss a year, questions need to be asked.

Free or Complimentary tickets are often given to those companies or individuals who subscribe as friends of the theatre or whatever other fancy name they give them.   I certainly have been told in the past from reliable source that Pentraeth have had free tickets given to them on regular occasions.  They also used to have parking concessions for the theatre car park.   I feel a FoI request coming on!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2012, 10:45:06 AM
Years ago we were given some tickets by someone who was a volunteer steward. Do they still get them? If you think about that, if each one gets 1/2 a doz given, even a £20.00 ticket will add up to a large amount when multiplied.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 29, 2012, 11:07:49 AM
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Years ago we were given some tickets by someone who was a volunteer steward. Do they still get them? If you think about that, if each one gets 1/2 a doz given, even a £20.00 ticket will add up to a large amount when multiplied.

I have another friend who says she watched the Stereophonics (sold out) gig with her partner because he worked their at the time so they just "Let him in" They left after about 40 minutes because they weren't enjoying it  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2012, 01:35:32 PM
No wonder they are losing money left, right and centre.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: cygnusx-1 on September 29, 2012, 06:46:32 PM
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Not heard of Mumford and Son's, but I am getting old so that is not surprising.


They are appearing on Jools Holland's BBC2 show next Tue.........catch it and get down with the kids!!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 29, 2012, 11:05:01 PM
This mentioned on Oscar now

Venue Cymru's customer service has seemingly sunk to a new low worthy of having their contact terminated if their was a contract to be terminated, remember we are dealing with the council here so there is very little that can be done.
I for many many years bought various tickets from the NEC in Birmingham for many top acts and groups of the day long before there were sophisticated computer systems to aid such concert venues, in those days trying to get through was as simple as having to dial the number repeatedly until one got through, it worked for years and also we got some great seats, no Internet, no EBay for resellers to clip the unsuspecting fan and all where happy.
There are of course new computer systems now that seem to work well for the likes of Ticket Master and many others firms specialising  in selling concert tickets, they are in the game for profit so it follows they have to have competent systems and management, either that or they go bust, that is how it works in the real world of business.
No such rules and guidelines seem to apply to public bodies like Conwy Council, they neither give a doggy doos about profit or customer service as the above comments plucked from the Twitter sphere show.
Is there any wonder the Venue is in the state it is in both financially and in terms of shows staged?
Who is accountable for the poor show at Venue Cymru and what performance criteria are their annual assessments based upon I wonder, customer service can't rank very high nor can customer satisfaction for if they did there would not be the complaints there are.
So who will do anything about it and when will things change?
Is it time for a change?
I think the answer is yes don't you?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2012, 09:31:43 AM
I agree there Born2run. I too have bought many a hundred theatre tickets for places as far apart as London, Leeds, Bradford, Manchester, Huddersfield, Sheffield and dare I admit it without sounding like a dinosaur Batley Variety Club. All we did was pick up the phone and keep trying-- indeed Batley had a system whereby you could book a phone call as the box office opened-- and you didn't pay a 'booking fee'. With this system we were often able to obtain front row seats for many of the top stars of the time. Many of the theatres we frequented were council run and were always efficient and well supported. Thereagain back then you dare walk the streets of a city to the station and /or leave your car safely without paying a fortune.
OMG I am sounding old !!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 30, 2012, 09:55:17 AM
Let's put things in perspective.

The Theatre is OURS.

The Councillors are OURS and PAID to REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS.

So why not TELL THE LOT OF THEM WHAT WE WANT DONE ABOUT IT!

Much too much HOT AIR and not enough ACTION!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 30, 2012, 10:50:25 AM
Lets also remember the Theater/Arena is failing two fold.

1) They can't get enough decent artists

2) When they finally have a decent artists, and I look out of my window and the moon is blue, they completely hash up the ticket selling process, making them look like the amateurs they are.

Back to point one - and I remember around ten years ago - before the arena was even built - I saw gigs by Van Morrison, Status Quo, Willie Nelson, Don Williams, Manic Street Preachers, Super Furry Animals, Levellers, etc

Nowadays even Status Quo have given up on the theater! That concert alone brought in 2 nights of packed houses and business to the town. The programme this year, and last year is absolutely dire. Rhyl have a better line up with a venue one third of the size.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 30, 2012, 01:09:37 PM
Does that mean that a highly paid manager at Venue Cymru is failing to do their job?   If so sack him or her and get someone in who can do the job.   Acts won't come to us, we need someone to get off their ass, get out in the field and bring the business in.   Get In Turner involved!   ;)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2012, 07:13:11 PM
It would appear that you are right Yorkie and B2R,

Given that there are a myriad of talented acts out there, a very large number of people in the N Wales area who would willingly pay to see them.... and a 'state of the art' venue to house them,   then it can only fail due to mis-management.!     &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2012, 05:28:50 PM
The Nolan Sisters are coming to VC next March.  Not really my thing but I'm sure they'll fill the place.

Nolan Sisters 1974 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HhRLqvzfxc#noexternalembed)

Disclaimer: Video not indicative of what they look like now!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2012, 06:29:39 PM
I think they're all Grannies now!   Bully for CCBC to get such a fantastic act - who am I kidding???  _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
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I think they're all Grannies now!   Bully for CCBC to get such a fantastic act - who am I kidding???  _))*
You may mock and scorn Yorkie. I probably won't be going but I'd be prepared to bet that it will be a full house.

I think you should polarise your view. Should we leave the VC un-used (which you don't like) or book acts that you don't like?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
On this Forum we are all entitled to our opinion.  I have mine and my comments should be respected as I respect the comments of others.   The Nolans even joked amongst themselves in a T V interview recently.

I'm sure it will be a sell out,

We may not agree on all we discuss, but then the World would be a dull place if we did!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
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On this Forum we are all entitled to our opinion.  I have mine and my comments should be respected as I respect the comments of others.   The Nolans even joked amongst themselves in a T V interview recently.

I'm sure it will be a sell out,

We may not agree on all we discuss, but then the World would be a dull place if we did!   ZXZ

Yorkie, I'm a bit confused! Have I dis-respected your opinion? I certainly don't think I have. In fact, I enjoy (agree or disagree) many of your opinions on here.

You have been very critical of the lack of use of VC in the past and I simply posed a question. Isn't that what we're here for?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2012, 08:42:25 PM
Which just goes to indicate how the written word can be mis-understood.  No facial expression, no body language, it is all just too clinical.   I'm sure that if we read between the lines we have an understanding of each other.

It is a pity that VCR is not a commercial concern, it would then have to make money.   But how long must the ratepayers have to keep it running with heavy subsidies?

 Z**

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2012, 08:03:14 PM
I go away for one week and look what happens,Venue Cymru manage to get another group into the Arena and sell it out all in a week,maybe i should go away more often.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 19, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
Well what a good weekend for the hoteliers,Cambrian rally in town so they make a few quid,but why are they not more vocal when it comes to Venue Cymru Arena,if they had just one concert a month it would generate a lot of beds taken,especially if it fell on a weekend.Imagine one concert a week that would generate lots and lots of beds booked,with two hoteliers on the council i can;t believe not one of them has a clue.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 23, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
Just announced.

SIMPLE MINDS GREATEST HITS TOUR 2013

Venue Cymru on 4 April 2013.

Tickets go on sale this Friday.

Dunno if they will they be in the theatre or arena?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on October 23, 2012, 08:23:02 PM
Arena
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 24, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
Ta.

Just heard tickets also go on sale this Friday for The Vaccines.

http://www.thevaccines.co.uk/gb/news/2012-10-23/uk-headline-arena-tour-coming-next-year/ (http://www.thevaccines.co.uk/gb/news/2012-10-23/uk-headline-arena-tour-coming-next-year/)


Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 25, 2012, 06:54:06 PM
Just told my mate in Wrexham about Simple Minds and the Vaccines,his answer was god nothing for ages then two announced in two days ,whats going on,my reply was hopefully they are listening.I would love somebody to explain the process,do bands approach VC or do VC approach the bands,anyway this week is a good one.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on October 26, 2012, 09:26:58 AM
Simple Minds tickets are £37.50  :o.

I do quite like them but not that much so I'll just stick with their Greatest Hits CD in the car (which cost 99p from Cash Generator in Colwyn Bay).

The Vaccines are "only" £18.50 but I don't know anything about them.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 28, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
We bought two Simple Minds tickets, and we were also able to reserve two more... which we have to take up (or not) within 3 days.

There was no problem, so fair play to Venue Cymru on this occasion.

Andy, £35 to £40 is roughly the normal price for any band of note these days.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 29, 2012, 08:14:51 AM
Simple minds?????? :o :o Blooming hell - I'm gonna have to get the time fixed on this computer - it was supposed to go back an hour but it's gone all the way back to 1992!! :P
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 29, 2012, 08:27:34 AM
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We bought two Simple Minds tickets, and we were also able to reserve two more... which we have to take up (or not) within 3 days.

There was no problem, so fair play to Venue Cymru on this occasion.

Andy, £35 to £40 is roughly the normal price for any band of note these days.

Or ten grand if it's the Rolling Stones  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 09:05:04 AM
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Simple minds?????? :o :o Blooming hell - I'm gonna have to get the time fixed on this computer - it was supposed to go back an hour but it's gone all the way back to 1992!! :P
:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on November 01, 2012, 02:18:46 PM
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We bought two Simple Minds tickets, and we were also able to reserve two more... which we have to take up (or not) within 3 days.

There was no problem, so fair play to Venue Cymru on this occasion.

Andy, £35 to £40 is roughly the normal price for any band of note these days.

Bon Jovi are selling tickets for £12.50 for their stadium tour next year (although it's debatable whether or not they're a band of note  ;).

Incidentally I've just tried to buy a couple of Simple Minds tickets from Venue Cymru's website and it seems they're still available, I was allocated "Row A Seat 746" and "Row A Seat 747" so presumably they've sold 745 tickets so far (I didn't proceed to checkout).
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 01, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
That seems a very long front row.  :o
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 05:08:45 PM
There are no rows... its the Arena, its all standing.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 01, 2012, 07:35:38 PM
Not all the time, Fester.

I have sat in a seat a few times for the annual North Wales Choral Festival and I know of a couple who sat down in seats for a Will Young concert in the Arena not too long ago.

As Simple Minds have been around for about 30 years, I cannot imagine all their fans wanting to stand up for three hours.







 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Motorhead have been around since 1976, (36 years) and that was all standing, even for old buggers with knackered knees like me.

Simple Minds is all standing, we were told this at the point of booking, and its exactly what we expected.

Although, I wish for the sake of my knees that it wasn't!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 02, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
That would be no good for me if I had an excellent position right in front of the stage.

After an hour, I would need the bathroom and lose my spot.  >:(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on November 02, 2012, 10:16:05 AM
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That would be no good for me if I had an excellent position right in front of the stage.

After an hour, I would need the bathroom and lose my spot.  >:(

There are "special" very discreet attachments one can use on ones person to take care of those situations!    :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 21, 2013, 10:46:02 AM
St Davids Hospice have 27 Simple Minds concert tickets up for grabs!  D)

The concert will be held at Venue Cymru on 4th April 2013.

All tickets are standing only. Tickets were kindly donated by Julie Bassett. RRP £37.50.

We are offering them for £25.  :o

Please contact Agnes or Haf on (01492) 873664 or (01492) 873674



Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
Thanks Bri,got 2 yesterday for friends. $thanx$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 24, 2013, 09:01:49 AM
After all the hype of Venue Cymru Arena announcing the appearance of Simple Minds and the Vaccines all has gone deadly silent,not a hint of another band in sight,no answers as to how they go about looking(if they do) for new groups to appear,as i have said in the past Llandudno has now lost out to Bangor as the main weekend venue and the Arena is failing to fullfill its promise to entertain the youngsters of Llandudno,so lets not let them down with being happy with the old time that suits us,there must be young bands who the kids love and could fill the 2,500 standing spaces or do they avoid having youngsters in.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
I believe a Bangor Nightclub is sending a coach to Llandudno on certain nights to whisk people off for the night.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on January 24, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
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After all the hype of Venue Cymru Arena announcing the appearance of Simple Minds and the Vaccines all has gone deadly silent,not a hint of another band in sight,no answers as to how they go about looking(if they do) for new groups to appear,as i have said in the past Llandudno has now lost out to Bangor as the main weekend venue and the Arena is failing to fullfill its promise to entertain the youngsters of Llandudno,so lets not let them down with being happy with the old time that suits us,there must be young bands who the kids love and could fill the 2,500 standing spaces or do they avoid having youngsters in.

Just out of interest I clicked on the NME tickets bit of their website - first bands I saw were

Pigeion Detectives
Frank Turner
Stereophonics
Counting Crows
The Twang & Cast
The Script
Bloc Party
All Time Low

All of these bands would suit a 2,500 venue and Llandudno would be the nearest venue to Bangor university for all of them
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Tonight I was at the Gym, adjacent to the Venue Cymru.

From the window, at 8pm, I saw the Parking Dept van from CCBC.  The Officer was gleefully wandering around slapping tickets on several vehicles in a car park that was 70% empty.

It makes me sick,  :puke2:  because this is such self-defeating behaviour by the Council.

They ruin people's night, who will then vow to never again patronise the LOSS MAKING Venue Cymru.

The same happens near the Pier and other parts of Llandudno who are striving to attract visitors, only to see them persecuted when they get here.  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2013, 07:00:43 AM
Agreed, it is stupid, self defeating behaviour that will only leave visitors with an unpleasant view of Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on January 25, 2013, 09:43:12 AM
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Tonight I was at the Gym, adjacent to the Venue Cymru.

From the window, at 8pm, I saw the Parking Dept van from CCBC.  The Officer was gleefully wandering around slapping tickets on several vehicles in a car park that was 70% empty.


The decision to charge for evening and overnight parking in the County's Pay and Display car parks was made about 20 years ago so it is not anything new.  Whether the Council should pursue the motorist during these hours is another matter.  Policing was normally only carried out up to 8.00 in the evening, or at some other times in special circumstances.

Charging in Theatre Car Parks is quite common throughout the UK and prevents parking spaces being taken up by people not attending the performance.   There are notices to this effect at Venue Cymru and those hiring the facility are advised that the available parking on site is subject to payment so delegates can be advised beforehand.

The decision and running of the Parking Services is that of the Parking Manager (a lady) at the County Offices.

Remember the Warden or Attendant is only doing his (her) job as he (she) has been instructed.

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on January 25, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
if when buying your ticket for the venue, they had a piece on that you put on your screen that should allow you to park , i can understand if a car park is nearly full ok book a car but not when the town is struggling, common sense come to mind  :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: dwsi on March 19, 2013, 11:53:54 AM
For those who saw 'One man, two guvnors'" in Venue Cymru at the beginning of the year there's a programme about the actor Owain Arthur on Thursday Night at 8:25pm on S4C and subtitles are available, details http://s4c.co.uk/e_subtitles_english.shtml (http://s4c.co.uk/e_subtitles_english.shtml)


Owain Arthur, Un dyn, Un sioe - Thursday 21 March 8.25 on S4C (subtitles available) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qels0Ugfqks#ws)

One man with the world at his feet
It's been a year to remember for actor Owain Arthur. He has been thrown into the public eye since taking the lead role in the successful theatre show 'One Man. Two Guvnors' with reviewers praising his performance.

The energetic 28 year old actor from Rhiwlas near Bangor, tells his story in the S4C programme Owain Arthur, Un dyn, Un sioe on Thursday, 21 March. He'll take us backstage at one of London's most famous theatres, Theatre Royal Haymarket, and we follow him to Cardiff and Llandudno as the show goes on a nationwide tour.

S4C can be viewed outside Wales on:

Freeview -- not available
Virgin TV -- 167
Freesat - 120
Sky -- 134
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on March 30, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Tonight, Mrs Fester and I decided to attend Agatha Christie's 'The Mousetrap' at the Venue Cymru.

I booked the tickets because we both quite like the theatre, The Mousetrap is an iconic production, and after 60 years I am ashamed to say that I knew nothing about the play.  I was looking forward to it immensely.

Sadly, it was one of the worst decisions I have ever made.
It was an evening of pretentious nonsense, inaudible actors, and uncomfortable silences.
We actually moved on two occasions to see if we could physically hear the dialogue above the coughing, spluttering and sweetie-unwrapping of the audience.  But no.
The 2nd Act is sightly more bearable than the first, if only because something actually happens, and also because one becomes excited by the fact that the ordeal is nearly over.
The backdrop scenery is beautifully done, but the positives end there.  The play itself is replete with unconvincing characters, with unclear motives and weak performances by a troupe of actors/actresses who are vaguely recognisable from bit parts in TV soaps.
I won't tell you 'whodunnit', but I would be doing you a great favour if I did.

At the beginning of the 2nd Act, we moved to a superb seat at the very centre-front of the Circle balcony. But even there we both failed to hear at least 25% of the actor's dialogue.  It was simply not enjoyable.
Finally, the most damning condemnation of all, the lady sat next to my wife was ASLEEP throughout the entire 2nd half, and then she had the audacity to applaud at the very end!  The Emperor's New Clothes springs to mind.
If people were honest in their 'heart of hearts' they would admit that this is just not an acceptable standard of entertainment, and everyone present must have seen better productions in their local church halls by amateurs.
Despite paying £60 for our tickets, my wife URGED me to join her and leave the theatre at the interval.  I'm glad I didn't because I couldn't have passed a genuine opinion on the entire charade, but I must listen to her in future.

Finally, I do understand that this play has been performed for 60 years now, but in my opinion that is 59 and a half years too long and it is high time it was consigned to the dustbin of literary history.
A waste of time and money. 










Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 31, 2013, 07:12:52 AM
You should have gone to see Al Murray, we had a fantastic time, very funny, he had us both in stitches?  _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 31, 2013, 11:44:05 AM
Im off to the very underusedf Arena on Thursday,Sinple Minds gig,i think they have one more gig booked for may,then that is it,nothing that i know of booked,yes i know it is used for other things but i bet it is used once a month if that,either fill it or close it and take it all to Colwyn Bay along with Eirias and THE SKI JUMP ON THE PROM(or whatever it is).
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on March 31, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
I had a very successful day yesterday at Venue Cymru.   Ray was holding one of his usual table top sales and I managed to get rid of loads of old tat that has been clogging up our drawers and cupboards for ages.   I found it rather surprising to find what folk actually bought!   It was a useful marketing exercise that will assist with the next time. :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 11, 2013, 07:52:33 AM
Great night had last thursday night,Simple Minds concert in the Arena,close on 2,500 people many locals but as far as the local economy goes a couple of thousand from outside town(tourists) with a few hundred staying overnight.We went to the Kings Arms befor the gig and it was packed,the landlord had a dj on specially for the night.Now for the usual Wrex but there is only one more gig booked for the Arena this year,workout for yourself was spent in Llandudno over the two days,thousands,if these gigs happened a little more often then that would be thousands more into pubs,hotels,B&B;s,cafes,restaurants and in the shops,just one councillor it will take to answer why are these gigs so few and far apart,answers please,if not for me do it for LLANDUDNO TRADE.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2013, 07:56:26 AM
I wonder if one major issue with VC is its size? Touring bands and groups these days prefer 5000+ seater stadia.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
The VC arena, at 2500 capacity, is certainly large enough for many major bands, or indeed festivals.

Simple Minds are still a massive band, and as Wrex says it was a very busy night for the town.

From discussions with VC management, and feedback from the acts themselves, I believe the real reasons are as follows.

1, Promotors are closely tied to regular venues, and tend to stick to that existing tour circuit.  Maybe a few brown envelopes need to be stuffed with cash?

2, Bands themselves are less than impressed with the acoustics Venue Cymru.

3, VC management seem unable to persuade major acts to veer away from Cardiff if they are doing a UK tour and are fitting in a gig in Wales.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2013, 09:38:26 AM
No. 2 is a killer, if true.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2013, 09:39:34 AM
The Arena was decided with conferences in mind, so acoustics and the ability to have large lighting rigs were not really taken into consideration.  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
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No. 2 is a killer, if true.

It is true Sir!   (In fact, everything I say is true)
It was admitted to Dave and I, by VC management, when we had a meeting with them.

Also, I asked Status Quo and Motorhead, who both said the acoustics were far from ideal, and would rather perform elsewhere.  Quo do return, but only to the smaller theatre.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
Acoustics are the major problem, of course.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2013, 10:19:59 AM
The Lighting Rigs issue is also a large one. Most touring bands have their own rigs/setups for lighting and they can't be thrilled at having to modify them just for Llandudno because of the low ceilings etc.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 26, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
nothing happening
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 26, 2013, 02:25:59 PM
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No. 2 is a killer, if true.

It is true Sir!   (In fact, everything I say is true)
It was admitted to Dave and I, by VC management, when we had a meeting with them.

Also, I asked Status Quo and Motorhead, who both said the acoustics were far from ideal, and would rather perform elsewhere.  Quo do return, but only to the smaller theatre.

Status Quo no longer return as they only do larger arena shows now than smaller venue larger tours.

The acoustics aren't great though
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 26, 2013, 07:32:00 PM
Born to Run,   You are mistaken Sir!

Quo chose to perform in the smaller VC Theatre last time, because of dwindling ticket sales, but primarily because they did not like the acoustics in the Arena.    This is from the mouth of Francis Rossi himself.

Check out the recent Quo tour dates.... many smaller venues listed these days.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 26, 2013, 09:19:49 PM
Fester you are mistaken my good man

Quo chose to play in the Theater for again after the arena not just because of the acoustics but because of the facilities and complaints from the crowd. (If you normally go to the theater the viewing at the arena anything more than about 10 rows back is awful)

Nothing to do with dwindling sales as Quo sold out 2 nights at the theater instead of one at the arena - which I believe is more tickets than one night at the arena!!

But Quo no longer even play at the theater because like I said they are playing bigger shows such as the O2 and Liverpool arena.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 26, 2013, 10:03:14 PM
Nope, I'm not conceding this.... take a look at the 2013 tour here... http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/Status-Quo-tickets/artist/747939#artist_table_focus (http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/Status-Quo-tickets/artist/747939#artist_table_focus)

A mixed bag of large and small venues.   Scarborough??  Crewe?  Falkirk?

You are just as poor at research as you are at darts and quizzes old chap,  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 26, 2013, 10:47:07 PM
 &shake&

Falkirk STADIUM

Scarborough OPEN AIR theater

Both will hold a LOT more than the theater >>>
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 26, 2013, 10:48:55 PM
The Crewe show is also open air

I do research for a living Festario, whilst you sit around playing quizzes!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 27, 2013, 12:09:01 AM
How dare you!
I do much more than that, I also sit around playing internet darts, playing 'Angry Birds' and eating junk food  I will have you know.

Remember also, I am a shareholder in your company, which means YOU work, so that I don't have to!

(Apologies to Dave R for stealing his favourite phrase)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 27, 2013, 10:57:40 AM
 ;D

Actually the plans for our new 20 million pound building have been approved. It'll be on the patch of grass next to the crem in Llanrhos.
Also they are hoping to strike a deal with CCBC to use our car park as a park and ride into Llandudno, I guess that's forum news in a way? Though I'm not sure what category it would be posted under. I'm not sure a park and ride will be that useful for Llandudno what do you think Fester?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on April 27, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
Another reason for the switch to arenas could be that the original line up reformed.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 27, 2013, 11:36:57 AM
They abandoned the theater before the frantic four got back together and they have now disbanded and go back to the line up before that
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 27, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
Are the Quo still playing the same song over and over again? Never was a fan!  WWW
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 27, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
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Are the Quo still playing the same song over and over again? Never was a fan!  WWW

Sadly not because their new song is awful! literally one of the worst things I've ever heard by anyone  ???

Status Quo - Bula Bula Quo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57Vh5zapvk#)

and I'm a fan who's seen them live about 15 times
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Tosh on April 27, 2013, 05:16:15 PM
Apparently it is not really the same song, the words are different, but the chords are the same just in a slightly different order.
As Eric Morecombe said " listen sunshine, I AM playing the right notes but not not necesssarily in the right order".
bum bum.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on April 27, 2013, 07:21:34 PM
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Are the Quo still playing the same song over and over again? Never was a fan!  WWW

Sadly not because their new song is awful! literally one of the worst things I've ever heard by anyone  ???

Status Quo - Bula Bula Quo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57Vh5zapvk#)

and I'm a fan who's seen them live about 15 times


If you think that's bad, wait until you see the movie!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 05:00:05 PM
And the place gets crazier  ???

VC boasting on their facebook about how they have stopped potential pick pockets entering the vaccines gig last night.

It seems they randomley stopped patrons and quizzed them on their knowledge of the band (lead singer's name etc)
If the Patron didn't know, they didn't get in  &shake&

How absurd, as I said on their facebook, giving their lack of bookings someone should be questioning the VC managemnt about music not the other way round!!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: dwsi on May 07, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
They even confiscated a diabetics hypo kit  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 08:21:47 PM
http://link2wales.co.uk/2013/crudblog/news-fans-refused-entry-to-vaccines-gig-for-not-knowing-album-titles/ (http://link2wales.co.uk/2013/crudblog/news-fans-refused-entry-to-vaccines-gig-for-not-knowing-album-titles/)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
Facebook is rife with it, I've got friends in London who have heard about this (not through me)
This is really going to damage VC's reputation and rightly so. It's time the management faced the consequences for a number of reasons &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 07, 2013, 08:39:08 PM
I assume all this was made clear in the Terms & Conditions when tickets were purchased. 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 09:04:55 PM
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I assume all this was made clear in the Terms & Conditions when tickets were purchased.

 L0L good one!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2013, 01:07:03 AM
It's outrageous and crass mismanagement to have done this.

If the same had happened at the Simple Minds gig, I would not have gained entry despite having paid £40 or so for my ticket.
This is because I was never a massive fan of the band, but went for the big occasion, and I could not name one of their albums.

I would sue them relentlessly if that happened to me or my kids.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on May 08, 2013, 07:46:29 AM
Indeed.  When you buy a ticket for an event you are deemed to have made a contract with the sellers.  It seems they've broken their part of the contract so a civil action to recover costs and seek compensation is the avenue down which every refused ticket holder should go. Could be expensive for VC...
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 07:56:32 AM
It all seems extremely bizarre to me. Whilst you can understand VC wanting to stop pickpockets, their chosen method seems ludicrous.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: TheMedz on May 08, 2013, 04:59:38 PM
I've just booked a couple of tickets to see the comedian Milton Jones in November.  Does that mean I've got to know some of his jokes before they let me in?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 08, 2013, 08:03:47 PM
The notoriety continues they've made the NME http://www.nme.com/news/the-vaccines/70166 (http://www.nme.com/news/the-vaccines/70166)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2013, 11:23:50 PM
It is a complete embarrassment to the Venue Cymru management..... and also for the security company they employ to 'police' these events.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 09, 2013, 11:38:54 AM
Lets be honest here,they make very little effort at filling the Arena,4 or 5 gigs a year is pathetic,they have never explained why it is so hard to attract bands to the taxpayers and now seem to be making the Venue a laughing stock.Remember this link is not about the Theatre its just the empty Arena we are concerned about.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on May 09, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
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It is a complete embarrassment to the Venue Cymru management..... and also for the security company they employ to 'police' these events.

Sounds as though this 'security lot' are related to the 'litter lot' employed by CBC.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 09, 2013, 01:22:12 PM
It is very embarrassing to have this sort of negative national publicity for VC.  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 09, 2013, 01:30:09 PM
On the front page of the chronicle today I hear. However I'd be very suprised if the management are held accountable for this or any of their other failings  &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 09, 2013, 03:26:28 PM
As all the people in management in Venue Cymru are employees of CCBC their wages will be paid each week,wether they fill Venue Cymru or not,so there is no incentive to pull in gigs at the Arena,lets just make excuses like Liverpool and Manchester are to close,or the accustics are bad,well im sorry it don;t work with me,we have had some very good bands on ,so it can;t be that bad and as for being to close to others,sorry it works the other way and people love to come and make a few days of it in Llandudno,spending money which was the whole idea in the first place,only problem is we get one gigevery 3 months IF we are lucky. :rage: :rage: :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: dwsi on May 09, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
Teen not allowed to take insulin into Vaccines gig at Venue Cymru - North Wales Weekly News buff.ly/13jV76O (http://buff.ly/13jV76O)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 09, 2013, 04:21:24 PM
Barking mad the lot of them.  Heads need to roll!   $angry1$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 11, 2013, 12:02:44 PM
BBC iPlayer - 5 live Drive: 10/05/2013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01s9ltg/)

from radio 5 live - skip to 1 hour 25 minutes in to hear it
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 13, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Got the new venue cymru listings today

for comedy  $good$

for music  &shake& What an absolute load of crappy third rate tribute bands! Yet again hardly anything interesting for anyone under 60.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
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hardly anything interesting for anyone under 60.
At least Fester will be happy then...  :laugh:  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 13, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
 L0L

Still no Motorhead back I'm afraid though
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on May 15, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
I too got the new listings yesterday and spotted something that I wished to see in August.
If you look at the brochure it now says that all booking fees are subject to a £2.50 booking fee. My OH rang the theatre and asked if they had now started charging for cash sales at the desk. No we waive the fee then she said !
Mental note-- call in cash in hand.
During the afternoon I called at the TIC in town for something else and in the foyer was a stand full of the new brochures bearing a sign--- no booking fee here--.
Went up to the counter and said that I wanted one ticket for the particular show, did the notice apply to debit card bookings? No charge for any said the very helpful young lady. Thus I got my ticket, where I wanted to sit, with £1 off for earlybird booking. No booking charge. Admittedly I have to exchange the 'voucher/receipt for an actual ticket at some point, but just let them try and charge me any more.

Worth knowing if you want to make a booking !

By the way it is now £1.50 per ticket, not per booking for the Arena according to the brochure.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
I couldn't find anything that we want to see! I'm waiting for Jethro and Brit Floyd to return! Al Murray was great a few months ago!  _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 15, 2013, 10:50:30 AM
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By the way it is now £1.50 per ticket, not per booking for the Arena according to the brochure.

Utter exploitation.  Damn good job that Marks, Asda and Tesco don't charge for shopping in their stores!  About time this practice was outlawed.  :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on May 15, 2013, 11:09:23 AM
Is it actually legal?
We used to charge at the Charity Shop for using the card machine, but that was stopped a while back.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on May 15, 2013, 11:12:57 AM
Under the new EU directive which came into force on April 13th:

"... traders will be expected to make sure that any payment surcharges are representative of the actual processing cost involved and they do not charge more than this. This will make the process fairer and more transparent for consumers and no longer result in hidden, expensive charges at the end of the payment process.

Surcharges are often cited in the airline sector but are also imposed by some retailers in other sectors, including rail, event tickets, cinemas, car dealerships and hotels. The Office of Fair Trading (OFT) estimate that consumers spent around £300 million on payment surcharges in 2010 in the airline sector alone."

So reasonable charges can still be levied. Next problem - defining 'reasonable'.  However, certain businesses are excepted until the regs become Law = in April 2014.   More here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crackdown-on-rip-off-card-charges-begins (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crackdown-on-rip-off-card-charges-begins)

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/consumer-marketing/rights-contracts/directive/index_en.htm (http://ec.europa.eu/justice/consumer-marketing/rights-contracts/directive/index_en.htm)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 15, 2013, 12:23:43 PM
These booking fees are surely nothing to do with Credit Card processing fees.  It is just an add on for no reason at all.  Their business is "selling tickets", as such any costs should be set off against profits the same as any other business overhead.  Or have I got it all wrong?   :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on May 15, 2013, 12:54:27 PM
No, I have, and you're quite right, Y.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on May 15, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
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I couldn't find anything that we want to see! I'm waiting for Jethro and Brit Floyd to return! Al Murray was great a few months ago!  _))*

Jethro is moving up in the world.  He's appearing at the Galeri in Caernarfon on 15th July - http://www.ents24.com/caernarfon-events/galeri-caernarfon/jethro/3242785. (http://www.ents24.com/caernarfon-events/galeri-caernarfon/jethro/3242785.)

Al Murray was good as always, even if was a bit on the grumpy on the night!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on May 16, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
I now find that the booking fee for a concert in Erias Park is 60p per ticket.  I just don't get this ! Surely a booking fee is a booking fee--the same procedure goes on no matter how much the ticket costs.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 17, 2013, 06:50:23 AM
James are playing Wakestock,i really prayed i would see them in Llandudno but Abersoch will have to do,i may be the oldest person there.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 17, 2013, 08:28:17 AM
Don't worry, wrex, as it will be dark.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 20, 2013, 07:31:52 PM
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Don't worry, wrex, as it will be dark.

Also people will be 'sitting down'  L0L

Sorry!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 02, 2013, 03:46:32 PM
Still no sign of the Arena having any gigs booked in,such a white elephant this place is turning into,i know the only thing CCBC are interested in at the moment is Colwyn Bay,wether its their promenade,eirias park or laying on a large concert in the Eirias arena,but someone wants to remember the Arena they built on Llandudno promenade.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on June 02, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
Motorhead 2013 Tour dates announced.

No return to Llandudno, but lets face it, it can't be because its Venue Cymru is not available can it?

I shall have to content myself with trips to Nottingham, Wolverhampton and Manchester.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 17, 2013, 08:04:01 PM
We must be due a rare gig,any news
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 14, 2013, 06:36:58 PM
there is a roumour they may have another booking,watch this space.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on July 14, 2013, 10:31:43 PM
even ken dodd has given up comming here ,looking at the state of the place today it will be in the eyesore page soon , just a thought but to get some use out of the place why not let someone open a night club there .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 15, 2013, 06:42:41 AM
Not the right image Norm.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 15, 2013, 08:16:56 AM
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even ken dodd has given up comming here ,looking at the state of the place today it will be in the eyesore page soon , just a thought but to get some use out of the place why not let someone open a night club there .

How come that my OH has got his tickets for both shows by Doddy this year, one in August, one in September? Bought right at the beginning of this year ?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on July 15, 2013, 09:51:27 AM
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even ken dodd has given up comming here ,looking at the state of the place today it will be in the eyesore page soon , just a thought but to get some use out of the place why not let someone open a night club there .

How come that my OH has got his tickets for both shows by Doddy this year, one in August, one in September? Bought right at the beginning of this year ?

http://www.eventsnorthwales.co.uk/events/10009/ken-dodds-happiness-show (http://www.eventsnorthwales.co.uk/events/10009/ken-dodds-happiness-show)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: 1_rob_1 on July 15, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
I always check whats on here: http://www.ents24.com/llandudno-events/venue-cymru (http://www.ents24.com/llandudno-events/venue-cymru)
It is updated very quickly if events are added/cancelled.
The Venue Cymru site is rubbish & hard to navigate.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on July 15, 2013, 10:21:55 AM
 sorry nemesis my mistake ,as rob says the venue website is rubbish and you have to look more to find things ,but a big venue like we have should be used more and wrex that was only a suggestion about a n/club ,as someone else says why not a cinema ,something has to be done.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 15, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
No probs Norman 08, but I knew that 2 tickets were curling up pinned inside the cupboard in the kitchen-- one for August17th and one for Sept 1st so I knew that unless the show had been cancelled that he was coming. My OH goes to every show, every time Doddy comes-- so much so that Doddy himself acknowledges him by name during the show ! Sad I know, but at 85 the great man still gives alot of 'Happiness' to alot of people!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on July 15, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
yes he,s brill hoteliers don,t like him because he keeps the guests out late ha ha ,them 2 dates we are away but would have gone ,remember once tears rolling down our faces looking across 2 people had sad faces ,dont know why they went lol .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 15, 2013, 12:14:10 PM
Leave the venue as it is and employ someone who can actually book artists?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 15, 2013, 05:37:05 PM
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yes he,s brill hoteliers don,t like him because he keeps the guests out late ha ha ,them 2 dates we are away but would have gone ,remember once tears rolling down our faces looking across 2 people had sad faces ,dont know why they went lol .

He has cut back slightly timewise, namely midnight. I think the theatres had a go at him for keeping the staff there ! In the past the latest that we have ever come away from one of his shows was 1.40am. That was back in Yorkshire.
We once had someone tried to book a room with us and said that they would check in after the Ken Dodd Show.-- Needless to say they didn't get a room !
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 15, 2013, 06:47:32 PM
Sorry Norm i was being sarcastic,its a great idea but do you think the management there want that headache,too much like hard work,and i think there is a cinema hidden in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 15, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
Yes get in a firm too run the place on a commission basis,it only lost 2 million last year.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on July 15, 2013, 10:38:21 PM
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yes he,s brill hoteliers don,t like him because he keeps the guests out late ha ha ,them 2 dates we are away but would have gone ,remember once tears rolling down our faces looking across 2 people had sad faces ,dont know why they went lol .

He has cut back slightly timewise, namely midnight. I think the theatres had a go at him for keeping the staff there ! In the past the latest that we have ever come away from one of his shows was 1.40am. That was back in Yorkshire.
We once had someone tried to book a room with us and said that they would check in after the Ken Dodd Show.-- Needless to say they didn't get a room !

I think he's hilarious, and great.
Trouble is when we saw him a couple of years ago, it was 1.10am finish, and from 7.30pm start my knees, my back and my bladder were screaming.... 'never again'!!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 17, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
The theatre booklet gets worse year on year - it's grim reading nowadays.
Surely it should be getting better?? Why not set up a bus serivce with Bangor university and get some acts on that would appeal to somebody under 75  ££$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on July 17, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
The booklet gets more difficult to negotiate round and the website is even worse !!!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 17, 2013, 04:27:29 PM
Way behind the times! Then as soon as they have their blue moon event that someone actually wants to go to (Mumford and sons) their processes crumble. 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Big Alan on July 17, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
So who is the headline act?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
Booking agent for the Venue is crap,the website is a joke,even the theater seems to be empty these days and its losing 2 million a year and CCBC ARE DOING WHAT EXCACTLY?.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 17, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
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Booking agent for the Venue is crap,the website is a joke,even the theater seems to be empty these days and its losing 2 million a year and CCBC ARE DOING WHAT EXCACTLY?.

Absolutely Sweet FA as usual.   :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on July 18, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
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So who is the headline act?

http://youtu.be/JGor7ZyCawI (http://youtu.be/JGor7ZyCawI)

 8)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Llechwedd on July 18, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Once upon a time it was easy to find out what was on and indeed that there were theatres here because Catlins and then Robbie and Clive had posters everywhere.  Now unless you know the theatre is there you are not aware of anything happening.  It's a shame their marketing needs examination.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 18, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
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Once upon a time it was easy to find out what was on and indeed that there were theatres here because Catlins and then Robbie and Clive had posters everywhere.  Now unless you know the theatre is there you are not aware of anything happening.  It's a shame their marketing needs examination.

How can you examine something that isn't there  :'(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Llechwedd on July 18, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
I was being polite 8)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
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How can you examine something that isn't there  :'(

Would giving a Brain Scan to an Idiot qualify?   ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Big Alan on July 18, 2013, 06:25:12 PM
You need a brain first
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
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You need a brain first

Exactly!
 :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Big Alan on July 18, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Teach me to just read the last post! :-[
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 29, 2013, 06:54:46 AM
Here is another stupid comment from Wrex,Llandudno Hospitality Association has decided totake an aggressive approach too the lack of event in the whole of Venue Cymru,they have asked members to bombard CCBC,Venue Cymru and their county and town council with e-mails,letters ,phone calls and in person in the hope the Venue will bring in more trade.Sorry it is stupid because i made it up,but you never know one day they will be seen to take an interest.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on July 29, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
Here is another stupid comment from Fester.... Wrex, please enable your email facility (in profiles) .. I need to get in touch regarding some work Sir!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 30, 2013, 06:34:34 AM
Fester ,technology and me don;t go but i think i have done your request.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 26, 2013, 12:59:25 AM
I know this job is now closed, but means we may see some changes soon!

Venue Cymru hiring an 'Artistic Programmer'. "To programme arts events into the theatre, arena, hall, Orme Suite and other spaces within Venue Cymru."

http://www.jobsgopublic.com/uploaded_files/download?file=%2Fuploaded_file%2Ffile_name%2F000%2F000%2F252%2F184%2FArtisiticProgrammer-JDPS_E_REQ177_EXT.doc&source=att&vacancy=236108&vacancy_permalink=artistic-programmer-req177. (http://www.jobsgopublic.com/uploaded_files/download?file=%2Fuploaded_file%2Ffile_name%2F000%2F000%2F252%2F184%2FArtisiticProgrammer-JDPS_E_REQ177_EXT.doc&source=att&vacancy=236108&vacancy_permalink=artistic-programmer-req177.)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2013, 08:58:36 AM
Sounds promising.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on August 26, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
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Sounds promising.

And will probably yield the same result as all the other "promises" we get!  Or am I now being cynical? 
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on August 26, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
Re the theatre iself-- I haven't been for some time, but went on Saturday night. Trouble was, the artist had a backstage video show going on during the act and for some reason half ( the two edges ) of the written part were missing.
Theatre's fault or artist's fault? I don't know, but it certainly made a mockery of having the info. posted there.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 26, 2013, 05:34:42 PM
The problem here is who decides who gets the job.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 12, 2013, 04:41:19 PM
Well our own white elephant,skip call it what you want but Venue Cymru seems to be much quieter than normal,as you know my main bug bear is the empty Arena and as usual nothing is going on,no groups booked,nothing.The website;s whats on is full of Colwyn Bay theatre,why not have its own website,it causes confussion trying too see what is on.We may soon find out who has been given the new post to over see the Venue,i pray they get some results and quick we have;nt got that long on this earth.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on September 13, 2013, 07:57:10 AM
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Well our own white elephant,skip call it what you want but Venue Cymru seems to be much quieter than normal,as you know my main bug bear is the empty Arena and as usual nothing is going on,no groups booked,nothing.The website;s whats on is full of Colwyn Bay theatre,why not have its own website,it causes confussion trying too see what is on.We may soon find out who has been given the new post to over see the Venue,i pray they get some results and quick we have;nt got that long on this earth.

Theatr Colwyn already has it's own website so there's no need to include shows/films showing there on the Venue Cymru website.....other than to disguise the fact that there's nothing on at VC.

http://www.theatrcolwyn.co.uk/shows (http://www.theatrcolwyn.co.uk/shows)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 13, 2013, 04:13:40 PM
You hit the nail right on the head there Fatandy,head should roll.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 13, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Colwyn Bay is much, much better. You can even select your seats via a seat map on the website.
Just booked for Think Floyd in November and the magic numbers were on last night - VC hasn't got a clue!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on September 13, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
The Magic Numbers also played Porth Eirias yesterday.  They turned up an hour and half late because their van broke down on the way....how much more rock'n'roll can you get!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/video-magic-numbers-perform-impromptu-5922716 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/video-magic-numbers-perform-impromptu-5922716)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on September 15, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Numbers)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 16, 2013, 12:34:02 PM
Any groups booked for the Arena,now our youngsters have no nightclubs to go to it would be nice to have some decent groups for them to go to before they all leave for England.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 16, 2013, 01:31:51 PM
The new brochure has just come out, wrex.  $good$

Why not drop into the box office, pick one up and let us know what you think.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 16, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
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Any groups booked for the Arena,now our youngsters have no nightclubs to go to it would be nice to have some decent groups for them to go to before they all leave for England.

Never mind --no nightclubs Wrex --try our area on a Saturday night-- Ask a certain guest house owner in the locality about the bother he had on Saturday Night. By a woman who wasn't even staying in the town.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Maybe if the niteclubs had been open this woman might not have been in your area.Bri i have looked at the brochure and can find nothing in the Arena whatsoever.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
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i have looked at the brochure and can find nothing in the Arena whatsoever.

 :o :-}}} ))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
Facebooked Arena complaining and have a number to ring for a chat with Sara Ecob i think,so let me know what i should really be asking her.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 19, 2013, 05:57:32 PM
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Facebooked Arena complaining and have a number to ring for a chat with Sara Ecob i think,so let me know what i should really be asking her.

Just mention all the things you have brought up on the Forum, which she has probably read anyway.   ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 20, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
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Maybe if the niteclubs had been open this woman might not have been in your area.Bri i have looked at the brochure and can find nothing in the Arena whatsoever.

Plenty of places open till the early hours in Upper Mostyn Street !

Anyone noticed that in the new Venue Cymru brochure ALL bookings in the actual theatre are now subject to a £3.00 booking charge no matter how you pay?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bellringer on September 20, 2013, 12:08:22 PM
And that includes you personally booking  at the desk in CASH.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 20, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
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And that includes you personally booking  at the desk in CASH.

Saves them having to announce a general price increase!    L0L
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 20, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
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And that includes you personally booking  at the desk in CASH.

Does that include tickets for other places bought from there? As my friend just got tickets for the much better Theatr Colwyn and didn't mention a booking fee
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 20, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
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Facebooked Arena complaining and have a number to ring for a chat with Sara Ecob i think,so let me know what i should really be asking her.

Just mention all the things you have brought up on the Forum, which she has probably read anyway.   ;D

Please ask her why much smaller venues like Wrexham and Buckley get much better bands and MUCH more often!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Llechwedd on September 21, 2013, 11:20:39 AM
If you book by 'phone or computer you pay a fee BUT booking in person you should not.  It's a con and COMPLAIN!  As you say it's a price rise in an underhand manner.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 21, 2013, 11:35:51 AM
We went along last night and enjoyed the latest touring production of Willy Russell's Blood Brothers.

In the programme, I was surprised to see how many staff are employed on a day-to-day basis by Venue Cymru.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 21, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
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If you book by 'phone or computer you pay a fee BUT booking in person you should not.  It's a con and COMPLAIN!  As you say it's a price rise in an underhand manner.

The last time I booked I did so through the Tourist information Office and they don't charge at all, no matter how you pay.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on September 23, 2013, 02:20:18 PM
£3.00 per booking.  Blimey - that's up 50p in just 3 months (it was £2.50 when they started this extra admin fee in June).  Personally, and having seen similar problems in other theatres in Essex, the theatres should be immediately privatised - let out on a Full Insuring and Repairing lease so the Council can start saving money immediately.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on September 23, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Jason Manford has recently announced he'll no longer be performing in any theatres owned by the Ambassador Theatre Group after finding out that the Oxford New Theatre were charging a booking fee of £9  :o.  That makes £3 look quite cheap in comparison, although I do agree that it's ridiculous that you should have to pay for the privilege of buying something off a retailer.  Tesco don't charge you £3 everytime you want to buy a loaf of bread so why should a theatre charge you to buy tickets off them?

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/10680726.Theatre_booking_charges_no_joke__says_comic/ (http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/10680726.Theatre_booking_charges_no_joke__says_comic/)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on September 23, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
Why not start charging the Council a "Settlement Fee" every time you pay a monthly installment on your Council Tax?  £3  a time should be about right!    :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2013, 10:10:47 PM
That would be the same thing in principle wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on September 24, 2013, 07:43:59 AM
I was interested in this, from the agents:

"“All, or the vast majority, of the sales income from the ticket goes to the producer, hence the need to charge for ticketing operations separately. However, booking fees only apply to customers who buy on the phone or online.”

By that logic they're charging more to people who actually make it cheaper for them to sell tickets...

Because they're being greedy, this technique will - in due course - be eliminated, as have many such practices in the past. Meanwhile, they'll continue to rake it in from the punters.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Llechwedd on September 25, 2013, 12:02:43 PM
Thanks for the list of staff it's amazing that a tight ship is not being run.  They should try having this many staff in London.  All the main theatres are run on a shoe string by comparisson but then they are charities or  privately owned.  A Marketing Manager who is also Box Office Manager with FIVE staff in marketing good grief!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on September 27, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Cast are appearing in the Hall on 19th December.  Not exactly the most happening group these days (they were fairly big in the mid 90's) but a gigs a gig and this is one of only three dates listed on their website along with Leeds and Liverpool.  Their lead singer John Power will also be performing a solo set at, er, the Conwy Feast in October.

http://www.casttour.com/ (http://www.casttour.com/)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on September 28, 2013, 08:48:00 AM
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Cast are appearing in the Hall on 19th December.  Not exactly the most happening group these days (they were fairly big in the mid 90's) but a gigs a gig and this is one of only three dates listed on their website along with Leeds and Liverpool.  Their lead singer John Power will also be performing a solo set at, er, the Conwy Feast in October.

http://www.casttour.com/ (http://www.casttour.com/)

Talking of the Conwy Feast--it is now £8.00 to go in on the first day.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 01, 2013, 12:06:34 PM
Im glad Oscar has taken up the subject of the empty Arena.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 02, 2013, 08:48:37 PM
Just been sent a memo from Venue Cymru telling me whats on,it consists of 4 nights for the whole month,i will check just incase other things are sold out and they have;nt included them,lets hope its not just 4 nights its used this month.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 02, 2013, 08:53:39 PM
I;am wrong ,apologies Venue Cymru,looks busy and they seem to have taken the Theatre Colwyn stuff off the Cymru site.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 03, 2013, 02:17:53 PM
Further signs of the strangeness of the running of this place - in the last 2 weeks I've had 2 text messages from orange asking me if I want half price tickets to see both Ed Byrne and Jason Manford - I've just got tickets for the latter for £11.50 each! They clearly can't be selling a lot of tickets
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on October 03, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
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Further signs of the strangeness of the running of this place - in the last 2 weeks I've had 2 text messages from orange asking me if I want half price tickets to see both Ed Byrne and Jason Manford - I've just got tickets for the latter for £11.50 each! They clearly can't be selling a lot of tickets

I might have been tempted to go and see Ed Byrne if I'd been offered half price tickets but I'm with O2  :(. 

Looking at the online booking the two Jason Manford shows are both more or less fully booked with the exception of a few pockets of available seats up in the gods.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
I went to Telfords Warehouse last nite to watch Llandudno band Catfish and the Bottlemen,now i don;t expect you dinosaurs to know much about modern music but what a shame i had to go to England to watch a local band.We cannot blame Venue Cymru for this but surely they could approach their promotors and offer the Hall upstairs for the locals to watch,obviously this would need some effort so forget it.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
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I went to Telfords Warehouse last nite to watch Llandudno band Catfish and the Bottlemen,now i don;t expect you dinosaurs to know much about modern music but what a shame i had to go to England to watch a local band.We cannot blame Venue Cymru for this but surely they could approach their promotors and offer the Hall upstairs for the locals to watch,obviously this would need some effort so forget it.

Hey Wrex, Dinosaurs eh?  You'll be calling us all 'Grandad' soon..   :laugh: :laugh:
Are you going to rename yourself T-Wrex?

Now, Festersaurus here, has seen Catfish and The Bottlemen twice and loved them, MAN!

I have also seen Zebedy,  a furiously good local metal band.... and I loved them even more!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 05, 2013, 12:00:13 PM
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I went to Telfords Warehouse last nite to watch Llandudno band Catfish and the Bottlemen,now i don;t expect you dinosaurs to know much about modern music but what a shame i had to go to England to watch a local band.We cannot blame Venue Cymru for this but surely they could approach their promotors and offer the Hall upstairs for the locals to watch,obviously this would need some effort so forget it.

Hey Wrex, Dinosaurs eh?  You'll be calling us all 'Grandad' soon..   :laugh: :laugh:
Are you going to rename yourself T-Wrex?

Now, Festersaurus here, has seen Catfish and The Bottlemen twice and loved them, MAN!

I have also seen Zebedy,  a furiously good local metal band.... and I loved them even more!

Neither of them are much good. Courteous Thief aren't bad if you're talking local bands.

Anyway felt the full blow of venue cymrus 'admin fee' last night as they charged both me and my brother £3. I had totally forgotten about their 'bandit fee' and so we elected to pay separately. However they could clearly see we were together, it would not have hurt them to be helpful and suggest we pay together to avoid paying twice! Most unhelpful of the 4 ticket staff standing around doing naff all  :roll:

This fee is clearly there to boost up there ailing finances straight from the punter's pocket. It will do them no good, If I can at all help it I'd much rather see a show in Colwyn Bay or Rhyl - better acts and more value for money!

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 11, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
When was the new job advertised for the Venue
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 17, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Any sign of a gig in the Arena,it has never been this long without at least one gig on the horizon,it was back in May that the last gig took place and there is absolutley nothing booked,such a shame.For those of you who are not sure what i am talking about it is the Arena which holds 2,500 people standing,the idea was they would bring in live groups and help keep the local youth happy and bring in thousands to the town with people staying over,useing the towns pubs,clubs,retaurants and take-aways,the Vaccines were the last to perform,a disgrace and waste of a building.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2013, 08:15:40 AM
Perhaps it is time for the mass of Staff the place has, to put on a show.  They certainly have plenty of time to rehearse!   

Venue Cymru Follies sound about right!    :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
Maybe we could stage a Wrestling Show in there?

Main Event: 'Hollywood' Hulk Hogan vs 'Beast of Bradford' Fester
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 18, 2013, 08:37:32 AM
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Maybe we could stage a Wrestling Show in there?

Main Event: 'Hollywood' Hulk Hogan vs 'Beast of Bradford' Fester

.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 08:40:31 AM
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Maybe we could stage a Wrestling Show in there?

Main Event: 'Hollywood' Hulk Hogan vs 'Beast of Bradford' Fester

.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.
More like 'Kitten Kowalski'...  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on October 18, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Venue Cymru sent me an E- Mail yesterday to say that the Daniel O' Donnell concert has been cancelled. Not that I was going :o, but some people will lose bookings for their accommodation.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2013, 11:42:58 AM
Quote
.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.

It's a well written piece and he does make a lot of good points. But I'm curious: throughout the blog there are two very different writing styles. Wonder if there's a co-author?

It seems there are three other authors. I think.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
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It seems there are three other authors. I think.
Are there, Ian? Look more closely.  ;)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 18, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
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.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.

It's a well written piece and he does make a lot of good points. But I'm curious: throughout the blog there are two very different writing styles. Wonder if there's a co-author?

It seems there are three other authors. I think.

I liked the piece  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 18, 2013, 04:13:56 PM
Just bought a pair of tickets for Jason Donovan in Priscilla Queen of the Desert and I will returning next week to purchase a couple of tickets for Cats.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 18, 2013, 04:22:45 PM
Glad the theater is being used.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 18, 2013, 06:26:20 PM
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.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.

It's a well written piece and he does make a lot of good points. But I'm curious: throughout the blog there are two very different writing styles. Wonder if there's a co-author?

It seems there are three other authors. I think.

I liked the piece  $good$


Seemed like a lot of left wing twaddle to me!  WWW
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 18, 2013, 09:18:42 PM
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.... or, judging by Kowalski's latest blog rant;     'Killer Kowalski  V  The Three Towns Forum.

It's a well written piece and he does make a lot of good points. But I'm curious: throughout the blog there are two very different writing styles. Wonder if there's a co-author?

It seems there are three other authors. I think.

So I was right!!!  Lots of split personalities...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Kowalski on October 19, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
I think you'll find I'm suffering from "Asperberger's Syndrome", I think it may be a weird variant of "Asperger's Syndrome"

The bloke that made the diagnosis also made a freedom of information request about the cost of flagpoles on Llandudno's prom so his medical expertise is obviously beyond question.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on October 19, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
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Seemed like a lot of left wing twaddle to me!

How does that differ from the usual right wing twaddle?  WWW
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
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Seemed like a lot of left wing twaddle to me!

How does that differ from the usual right wing twaddle?  WWW

You have to read it from the other side of the (t)wattle fence.    :D

See http://idontgetpolitics.co.uk/right-left-wing (http://idontgetpolitics.co.uk/right-left-wing)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 19, 2013, 11:44:25 AM
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Seemed like a lot of left wing twaddle to me!

How does that differ from the usual right wing twaddle?  WWW

I've never seen any!  WWW
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 19, 2013, 07:46:04 PM
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I think you'll find I'm suffering from "Asperberger's Syndrome", I think it may be a weird variant of "Asperger's Syndrome"

The bloke that made the diagnosis also made a freedom of information request about the cost of flagpoles on Llandudno's prom so his medical expertise is obviously beyond question.

Is that the one where you swear a lot?  I like that one...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on October 19, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
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I think you'll find I'm suffering from "Asperberger's Syndrome", I think it may be a weird variant of "Asperger's Syndrome"

The bloke that made the diagnosis also made a freedom of information request about the cost of flagpoles on Llandudno's prom so his medical expertise is obviously beyond question.

Is that the one where you swear a lot?  I like that one...  :laugh:

No!  The swearing one is Tourettes.    ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 19, 2013, 08:34:51 PM
Oh S#@T,   B####X.   I always make that B####Y mistake.....   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 19, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
 L0L
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 28, 2013, 09:08:12 PM
December 19,whopee i see they have found another band to play the Arena,i think the band are called Cast,im not aware of this 90;s indie band but who cares they have managed to get a booking,party,party,party
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on October 28, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
they are a rock/indie band from liverpool formed 1992
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 28, 2013, 09:53:59 PM
Formed in 92 last had a hit in about 97! Great booking venue cymru  :roll:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2013, 07:19:39 AM
Cast - Sandstorm:

Cast - Sandstorm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ez2EilzEkc#ws)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on October 29, 2013, 09:00:29 AM
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December 19,whopee i see they have found another band to play the Arena,i think the band are called Cast,im not aware of this 90;s indie band but who cares they have managed to get a booking,party,party,party

Not wishing to steal anyone's glory here but if you scroll back to 27th September you'll see that someone has already mentioned the Cast gig  ;).
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 29, 2013, 04:26:37 PM
Stroll back to 1996 and you wil someone that actually wants to go to a Cast gig  ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on October 29, 2013, 07:30:58 PM
The Cast gig is being organised by a local promoter. As a big fan of live music he too was fed up of there being no gigs locally. So he got off his backside and approached Cast's management and asked how much they would cost; he then approached Venue Cymru and asked how much hiring the room would cost.

He alone will shoulder any losses or conversely keep any profits.

Maybe Cast aren't to your taste BTR but he hopes this will be the start of someone local kickstarting the live music scene. He also has plans to develop a specific music venue in the three towns area.

At the end of the day anyone with a bit of ambition and cash can approach a band's management company and approach a venue and organise a gig.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on October 29, 2013, 11:50:57 PM
Dave R, doesn't that remind you of a certain idea and subsequent meeting we once  ?{}?had?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2013, 09:41:09 AM
Yes, sadly, Fester's dream of an Erasure reunion never came to pass...  :laugh:

Seriously, I wish the promoter well. We did look into a similar idea, had a meeting with VC management, and were told that more contemporary bands would be unwilling to make the detour into North Wales, even as part of a Tour.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 30, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Yes I wish them well. I may even go along, Walkaway I think is one of the best songs of the 90s, though it is the day after the mighty Dr Feelgod are playing Llandudno Junction (also done by a local promoter)

I hope he makes his money back and there are no security mess ups this time!
If I'm honest I can't see there being many there, especially just before Christmas. Ocean Colour Scene were only three quarters full and they are a much bigger band.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on October 30, 2013, 03:14:24 PM
Sorry FatAndy i was away when you posted in September,i wish you had corrected me while i have been bleating on about there being nothing on in the Arena,but lets not get carried away,especially as we read it is a local who has sorted this one out and not the promotion team for the Arena,i wonder what they do allday.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on October 30, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
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Sorry FatAndy i was away when you posted in September,i wish you had corrected me while i have been bleating on about there being nothing on in the Arena,but lets not get carried away,especially as we read it is a local who has sorted this one out and not the promotion team for the Arena,i wonder what they do allday.

They have a promotional team?? :o
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on November 11, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
OK, everyone can now relax.  It's the news we've all been waiting for and it's now official -

Peter Andre is back!

“I cannot wait to get back out on the road again. Everyone knows that touring is my absolute favourite thing and I am so lucky that I get to do it all over again in 2014.  You guys better get ready because this tour is going to be the best yet.”

I can't wait  :P.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2013, 09:29:37 PM
I saw Peter Andre many years ago with Toto and Tina Turner at Alton Towers before anyone knew who he was,lets hope Tina is supporting him .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2013, 09:31:45 PM
Anyway Andy he ain;t playing the Arena so this needs moving to the granny posts
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 11, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
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Anyway Andy he ain;t playing the Arena so this needs moving to the granny posts

Wrex, funny you should say that, but Llandudno was a venue on his 2012 tour, but it got cancelled.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Minime on November 11, 2013, 10:30:19 PM
Dang I was so looking forward to that too especially if he did his duet of whole new world with katy price.  Will just have to listen to his cds after I take my rik waller cd out
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on November 12, 2013, 07:51:55 AM
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Anyway Andy he ain;t playing the Arena so this needs moving to the granny posts

The listing shows either standing or tiered seating so it sounds like he will be in the arena, unless there's some way to remove all the seats from the theatre.  I'll be standing and getting there at least 24 hours in advance to make sure I get in the mosh pit.

https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/peter-andre-is-back.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/peter-andre-is-back.html)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on November 12, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
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Anyway Andy he ain;t playing the Arena so this needs moving to the granny posts

The listing shows either standing or tiered seating so it sounds like he will be in the arena, unless there's some way to remove all the seats from the theatre.  I'll be standing and getting there at least 24 hours in advance to make sure I get in the mosh pit.

https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/peter-andre-is-back.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/peter-andre-is-back.html)

Yes they remove the seats for Status Quo
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
Now you're talking !! $good$

Now Wrex-- please tell me where to find the Granny Posts :P-- or even the Great Granny Posts WWW/ I could really be interested  :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on November 12, 2013, 04:26:47 PM
Cheeky Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
You know me too well ! WWW _))* _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on January 17, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Credit where credit is due the Venue Cymru website is now very good

You can now pick out which individual seats you want from the map which is ideal and very professional and useful friendly

The £3 booking fee is still and absolute disgrace however  $angry$
And I'm still fuming from the first time we used it and they charged myself and my brother the fee even though we were clearly together but paying seperately. What happned to a bit of customer friendliness in just saying, why don't you pay together and we'll only charge you one booking fee - then the £3 I saved could have gone towards buying an overpriced pissy tasting beer from their bar  Z**
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on January 17, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Indeed B2R, and now that I see that this has happened to you, I can understand why you try to wriggle out of paying your Darts subscriptions each week!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on January 17, 2014, 09:33:16 PM
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Indeed B2R, and now that I see that this has happened to you, I can understand why you try to wriggle out of paying your Darts subscriptions each week!

 _))* You should be paying me for my awesome skills!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 18, 2014, 08:30:57 AM
Is the Arena still going,i thought it closed down with Broadway Boulavard.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 18, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
We were in there a couple of times in November watching the North Wales Choir Festival and I was also back there in early December for the Daily Post Business Awards Dinner.

I guess it was put to good use all last weekend hosting an extremely popular free event for families and children as the car park was absolutely full on Saturday and Sunday.

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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 19, 2014, 07:51:33 AM
Sounds like they have given up on the youth then Bri,if they are useing the Arena for choirs .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 19, 2014, 10:29:06 AM
wrex, the North Wales Choral Festival has been held in the Arena for many years.

There are many entries from schools and youth groups as well as adults from throughout the UK and the majority stay one or two nights in local hotels.

I suggest you submit a FOI request to CCBC and request a list of events held at the Arena over the past 12 months.

You maybe pleasantly surprised how often if does get used and for what.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 19, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
I do realise it is used for events besides gigs but off course you know my interest is that no gig has happened since May and no other gigs are booked,so the local youth are missing out,no night clubs and no gigs,not good driving the local youth out of town.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on January 19, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
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I guess it was put to good use all last weekend hosting an extremely popular free event for families and children as the car park was absolutely full on Saturday and Sunday.

The event last weekend was called Take pArt and it was excellent.  It's pretty much all free, we had to pay a small fee for our kids to use the roller skating rink, but there were events taking place right throughout the building.  There were all sorts of arts and crafts, circus skills displays, workshops (including one run by Connie Fisher off of the telly), music performances, dance exhibitions, storytelling, etc, etc, etc.  The event attracts people from far and wide and I'm sure it filled a few hotel rooms over the weekend as well as filling VC. 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on January 20, 2014, 12:22:55 PM
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I guess it was put to good use all last weekend hosting an extremely popular free event for families and children as the car park was absolutely full on Saturday and Sunday.

The event last weekend was called Take pArt and it was excellent.  It's pretty much all free, we had to pay a small fee for our kids to use the roller skating rink, but there were events taking place right throughout the building.  There were all sorts of arts and crafts, circus skills displays, workshops (including one run by Connie Fisher off of the telly), music performances, dance exhibitions, storytelling, etc, etc, etc.  The event attracts people from far and wide and I'm sure it filled a few hotel rooms over the weekend as well as filling VC.

That sounds really good, I would have gone. But I saw it advertised nowhere  $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on January 24, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Fester can relate to this, just bought two Tom Jones tickets, and had to pay the booking fee on BOTH TICKETS  $angry$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 24, 2014, 06:26:36 PM
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That sounds really good, I would have gone. But I saw it advertised nowhere  $angry$

It was certainly advertised in the Venue Cymru brochure and spread over two full pages.

Apparently, Venue Cymru was buzzing all weekend.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
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Fester can relate to this, just bought two Tom Jones tickets, and had to pay the booking fee on BOTH TICKETS  $angry$

Indeed B2R, as you know I purchased seven tickets for the darts tournament in Colwyn Bay.
I was charged a booking/admin fee on EACH TICKET.

i.e. I was charged 7 times for the administration of paying ONCE, and the use of ONE envelope. 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on January 24, 2014, 09:01:46 PM
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I guess it was put to good use all last weekend hosting an extremely popular free event for families and children as the car park was absolutely full on Saturday and Sunday.

The event last weekend was called Take pArt and it was excellent.  It's pretty much all free, we had to pay a small fee for our kids to use the roller skating rink, but there were events taking place right throughout the building.  There were all sorts of arts and crafts, circus skills displays, workshops (including one run by Connie Fisher off of the telly), music performances, dance exhibitions, storytelling, etc, etc, etc.  The event attracts people from far and wide and I'm sure it filled a few hotel rooms over the weekend as well as filling VC.

That sounds really good, I would have gone. But I saw it advertised nowhere  $angry$

It must have been advertised somewhere because we knew it was on, I can't remember where I saw it advertised though.  It is an annual event, it's been running for a few years, and always happens in January so maybe you're more likely to notice the ad, or at least look out for one, if you've been before and know what the event is all about. 

If it happens again in 2015 I'd definitely recommend it for anyone with kids/grandchildren to occupy.  There's loads going on so you could probably squeeze a day's free entertainment out of it (although you may have to fork out £1 for a go on the roller rink if those kids are anything like mine).
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2014, 07:46:42 AM
a have managed very well to bring in Olly Murrs,Little Mix and now Sir Tom Jones to Eirias arena over the last 3 years yet trying to bring in any bands into the Llandudno Arena they can;t manage ant,something very wrong going on here.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on January 31, 2014, 08:14:46 PM
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a have managed very well to bring in Olly Murrs,Little Mix and now Sir Tom Jones to Eirias arena over the last 3 years yet trying to bring in any bands into the Llandudno Arena they can;t manage ant,something very wrong going on here.

Yes, but Access all Eirias is organised by an external commercial company (http://www.orchardentertainment.co.uk/ (http://www.orchardentertainment.co.uk/)) who have to make money.

Venue Cymru is run by the council and subsidised to the tune of ~£1.5m annually (the subsidy Budgeted for in 2013/14 incidentally is £1,599,531). If Venue Cymru doesn't make money, we just bail it out.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
Access all Eirias may be run by a private firm,but it is with full support of CCBC ,Venue Cymru Arena is not even used for gigs anymore ,they have abandoned it as a venue for bands.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
I believe Access Al Eirias is subsidised very heavily by CCBC. I very much doubt it could occur without their cash.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
I just wish they would put a fifth of the effort to bring a band into the Arena and bring in 2,500 people into town,once a month should;nt be too hard but to bring in nothing in 12 months is a joke,if we put it in Colwyn Bay they would have it usedonce a week.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 03, 2014, 11:55:11 AM
Wasn't Mike Peters and the Alarm there over the weekend with the Gathering Festival?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on February 03, 2014, 01:35:04 PM
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Wasn't Mike Peters and the Alarm there over the weekend with the Gathering Festival?

Certainly was and very good he was too, 4 hour set on Saturday night in the Venue Cymru arena (which never has any live music!!) while Sarah Millican played two nights in the theatre itself.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 03, 2014, 04:29:00 PM
Well Bri,nice one,can;t say i knew about it so i take it was a sell out,i must admit i feel people are more interested in proving me wrong instead of  supporting the fact that the management are not bringing in any bands besides the Alarm who i would have gone to see,maybe if i say the bands in the Arena are brilliant somebody may say WHAT BANDS .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on February 03, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
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Well Bri,nice one,can;t say i knew about it so i take it was a sell out,i must admit i feel people are more interested in proving me wrong instead of  supporting the fact that the management are not bringing in any bands besides the Alarm who i would have gone to see,maybe if i say the bands in the Arena are brilliant somebody may say WHAT BANDS .

The Gathering is an annual weekend long event organised by Mike Peters that has been running for decades - this year was The Gathering 22.  It's been held in Venue Cymru in the past but for the last few years it's been held at Pontins in Prestatyn.  I think most of the tickets go to fan club members rather than locals and it's supposed to attract visitors from right across the globe (this year Llandudno's hotels got the business rather than Pontins).  From what I've heard they're guaranteed to sell out so there's never any advertising other than on The Alarm website, it's really more of an Alarm convention than a concert. 

http://www.thealarm.com/archives/20981 (http://www.thealarm.com/archives/20981)

p.s. I've never been to The Gathering but I'd like to get there one day, it's always sold out by the time I hear about it....should check The Alarm website more often  :roll:.  I did however once see The Alarm in they heyday when they played Colwyn Bay Leisure Centre in about 1987 or 88.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2014, 06:08:44 PM
The Alarm are OK for this area, but are certainly not a MAJOR draw these days.   It is a 'Gathering' and a convention more than a Gig.
They have a regular and sizeable following, (which always puzzles me) and I saw a few Alarm fans around the town on Sunday.

However, Wrex is undeniably correct.... the Arena is massively under-utilised.  There should be a MAJOR act here on a monthly basis at the very least.   Other events such as exhibitions and darts/snooker etc should be more prevalent too.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 03, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Im sure the management are quite happy to just have the theatre busy,i don;t think they can cope with too much on and they still get paid weaher the Arena is used or not this is why private promotors should be allowed to take over the Arena and bring more people into town.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on February 04, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
Venue Cymru and Theatr Colwyn should be let out to private promoters.

In Southend-on-Sea, the Cliff Pavillion and Palace Theatres were let out by the Council. The losses have been stemmed, rent is paid to the council and, crucially, THEY'RE MAKING A PROFIT as shown on their accounts at Companies House.

But, if you look at the sheer amount of productions and events going in, it really is no wonder.

www.southendtheatres.org.uk (http://www.southendtheatres.org.uk)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2014, 03:58:45 PM
Bit difficult comparing Sahf End with Llandudno.  The catchment area for S on Sea is 20 times that of this area.

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 04, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
If its a good production or a good band Mancs ,Scoucers ,Stokies,Chesterites will all travel and many older ones will use one of our many beds.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
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If its a good production or a good band Mancs ,Scoucers ,Stokies,Chesterites will all travel and many older ones will use one of our many beds.

TRUE!    :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 04, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
Yorkie that is the first time you have agreed with me,omg.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
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Yorkie that is the first time you have agreed with me,omg.

Oh s***e.  I must be going senile.  Actually, I applaud your efforts, but am just not interested in the present format of the Extravaganza!

Were your strenuous efforts directed elsewhere, you could experience magnificent rewards, more valuable than those I suspect you get at the moment, and with much less frustration!
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 04, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
Yorkie i would;nt do it if i did;nt enjoy it believe me.Being born in Llandudno i was one who applauded Margaret Lyons and John Boyle for bringing some life into town being a 25 year old when it started i was so glad to see the town come to life  so im glad to help keep it going,obviously my concern is not having the right people to continue it,i will keep looking.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2014, 04:47:03 PM
Jessi J in Colwyn bay Arena,Tom Jones also booked hence the complete and utter emptiness of the Llandudno Arena,need i say anymore,the whole place is being ignored while they put every ounce into Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on February 21, 2014, 08:39:19 AM
I suppose it's the 21st C equivalent of the old Summer Season entertainers used to do in the '50s and '60s.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2014, 08:20:58 AM
I have started contacting music promotors to find out why Venue Cymru Arena is being ignored and will let you know as soon as i get a reply,12 months without one gig for the youth of this town is beyond,the theatre can attract all top shows and comedians and to be fair so HAS the Arena but for some reason nothing for 12 months and nothing on the cards.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on February 27, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
Cast were there in December.

But I take your point - they are hardly for the youth
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
Cast played in the Hall upstairs which holds 1,000 all standing and i think a local hotelier put that on.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Pendragon on February 28, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
Simple minds were there in april, not for the really young though but Mumford and sons played they were ace  :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Trojan on February 28, 2014, 09:43:53 PM
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Simple minds were there in april, not for the really young though but Mumford and sons played they were ace  :D

I thought simple minds manage the place.


 ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 28, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
 L0L and the county too some might say!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2014, 08:01:46 AM
Last gig was in May and no gigs are planned so it will be 12 months with nothing,unless they quickly organise one before this May.My point is they have had some fantastic gigs in the place but for some reason have FAILED to bring in ONE group in a whole calendar year.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on March 01, 2014, 10:45:22 AM
There is one major element that alone will attract promotors and the big names, and that is MONEY!

It may well be that Venue Cymru is unable to make the financial guarantees that today's artistes demand. 

Once one passes Rhuallt Hill it is easier to go to Manchester or Liverpool, and such places are a much bigger attraction to them than Llandudno.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Yorkie all that should apply to the theatre aswell,so i don;t buy that,no poblem with the theater yet not one gig in 12 months it stinks.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 01, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
I wonder if the management are afraid of booking a one-night gig in the Arena and later find they have to subsequently turn down a three-day conference with hundreds of delegates wanting to stay Tuesday evening – Friday morning in a local hotel.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Cambrian on March 01, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Surely,  it's as Yorkie says, it's the money.  If it was commercially attractive, promoters would put on "gigs". The mainstream theatre caters for a wider and, arguably more affluent, market.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Oh well,got that wrong,how many confrences do they have,i thought they where in the theatre or the hall or even all three.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on March 12, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
Just seen this on Venue Cymru's twitter feed:

Watch out for some exciting @VenueCymru arena gig news coming soon! It's big!

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2014, 08:32:08 AM
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Just seen this on Venue Cymru's twitter feed:

Watch out for some exciting @VenueCymru arena gig news coming soon! It's big!

This?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on March 13, 2014, 09:06:31 AM
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Just seen this on Venue Cymru's twitter feed:

Watch out for some exciting @VenueCymru arena gig news coming soon! It's big!

Probably referring to Dawn French on the 15th & 16th June.  Not my cup of tea but good to see them getting a North Walian to appear there.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
Dawn French will be appearing in the theatre for two nights and was announced a while ago.

This seems to be referring to a gig in the Arena next door.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 13, 2014, 05:41:29 PM
Waiting with bated breath.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 15, 2014, 08:03:36 AM
Any big announcements yet. ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on March 15, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
Don't hold your breath on that one, I think we are being fed BS.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on March 17, 2014, 07:00:57 PM
X-Ray tonight will be in Llandudno investigating theatre booking fees.

BBC1 Wales @ 19:30.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on March 17, 2014, 07:54:11 PM
Oh dear Venue Cymru,  they have been exposed as being the ONLY box office who charge an additional booking fee, even if you turn up in person and pay in cash.

Not only that, but they are unrepentant and will not be changing this ill advised policy.    &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 17, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
I would love to pay that charge Fester,problem is there is still no gigs for me to pay for,get the private sector in.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 18, 2014, 01:44:40 PM
James Blunt announced for July,so if no other group plays before then it will be 14 months in between gigs what other buisness works like that and why the hell do the hoteliers not complain,lots stay overnight.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on March 19, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
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James Blunt announced for July,so if no other group plays before then it will be 14 months in between gigs what other buisness works like that and why the hell do the hoteliers not complain,lots stay overnight.

Sure yo'd be sleeping in the theatre for James Blunt so no need for overnight stays  ???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 05:22:02 PM
Lets not put too much pressure on Venue Cymru Arena management,its going too be 14 months between gigs,if we put too much pressure it might be 18 after James Blunt before we see another.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
I have posted here, I think the subject could well be changed from Venue Cymru to local theatres. It was the first time in years that I had been to Theatre Colwyn last night and what a little gem it is.
Last night was an excellent night out when we went to listen to Mike McGear McCartney telling tales of his life. A shame that there wasn't a better attendance which was deserved but on the other hand, it was an extremely intimate feeling when he's talking to few people because he draws you in. He had everyone singing along to Lilly the Pink and others !
I think the publicity machine failed him locally, plus the fact that many don't link him to either The Scaffold or his brother, Paul.
He's touring the UK, if you get a another chance to go, he's well worth the very affordable ticket prices which, by usual theatre prices, were very reasonable.
I will certainly be keeping my eye out for more similar shows and any pre event publicity helps because lots of people aren't necessarily familiar with the acts or aware of additional events that are added to the programme as the year progresses..
Title: Re: Everything to do with Colwyn Bay
Post by: hollins on April 02, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
I'm being dragged to the opera on Saturday night. La Traviata in case anyone is interested. (Venue Cymru Theatre).

Ooops, I put that in the Venue Cymru thread and it came up with the Colwyn Bay one. Can someone please swop it over as I can't seem to be able to delete it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on April 02, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
With pleasure :-))
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 07, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
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I have posted here, I think the subject could well be changed from Venue Cymru to local theatres. It was the first time in years that I had been to Theatre Colwyn last night and what a little gem it is.
Last night was an excellent night out when we went to listen to Mike McGear McCartney telling tales of his life. A shame that there wasn't a better attendance which was deserved but on the other hand, it was an extremely intimate feeling when he's talking to few people because he draws you in. He had everyone singing along to Lilly the Pink and others !
I think the publicity machine failed him locally, plus the fact that many don't link him to either The Scaffold or his brother, Paul.
He's touring the UK, if you get a another chance to go, he's well worth the very affordable ticket prices which, by usual theatre prices, were very reasonable.
I will certainly be keeping my eye out for more similar shows and any pre event publicity helps because lots of people aren't necessarily familiar with the acts or aware of additional events that are added to the programme as the year progresses..

Colwyn Bay, Rhyl and even Buckley all have some great gigs from time to time. I'm amazed Venue Cymru is so shoddy  &shake& Colwyn Bay also had a darts event last week featuring top players and the place was packed out.
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Post by: systema on April 08, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
We went to the Tourist Office last week to book this - as we did not want to pay the booking charge

https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html)

and quite honestly we had a great choice of seats - beginning to wonder if we will be singing along on our own.  :laugh:

Also booked the Motown Night at Langtry's Bar at Grand Hotel - £5 on 26th April

Our kind of music and trying to help local venues.
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Post by: Fester on April 09, 2014, 12:37:59 AM
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I have posted here, I think the subject could well be changed from Venue Cymru to local theatres. It was the first time in years that I had been to Theatre Colwyn last night and what a little gem it is.
Last night was an excellent night out when we went to listen to Mike McGear McCartney telling tales of his life. A shame that there wasn't a better attendance which was deserved but on the other hand, it was an extremely intimate feeling when he's talking to few people because he draws you in. He had everyone singing along to Lilly the Pink and others !
I think the publicity machine failed him locally, plus the fact that many don't link him to either The Scaffold or his brother, Paul.
He's touring the UK, if you get a another chance to go, he's well worth the very affordable ticket prices which, by usual theatre prices, were very reasonable.
I will certainly be keeping my eye out for more similar shows and any pre event publicity helps because lots of people aren't necessarily familiar with the acts or aware of additional events that are added to the programme as the year progresses..

Colwyn Bay, Rhyl and even Buckley all have some great gigs from time to time. I'm amazed Venue Cymru is so shoddy  &shake& Colwyn Bay also had a darts event last week featuring top players and the place was packed out.

It was indeed B2R, and here is a bald Yorkshireman and his Mrs, meeting the World Darts Champion, Michael Van Gerwin.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
I can't tell which is which in that photo  :o

The place continues to baffle me. Just had a text from ORANGE fun finder.
Saying they are doing a pre sale for Al Murray (Another Fester lookalike  :laugh:)
And I have to order from them before they go on 'general sale' April 11th
Sure enough looked on the VC website and the show is not even advertised there.

Got two tickets for the 5th row coming to a total of £57 (6 pound extortion fee)

Not sure if I'm pleased about this or not - I assume Orange are taking some kind of commision for selling their tickets.

I will have a check on the website on Friday (which is pretty good these days where you can choose your own seats)
and if I find they have better seats available than I got I'll be very annoyed !
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 10, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
This morning, I received in the post a Premier Card Newsletter advertising 'Al Murray - One Man, One Guvner' for 7.30pm on 20 September 2014.

Tickets are only £25.50 each anywhere in the theatre.

Tickets go on sale to the General Public at 10am tomorrow.

As a Premier Card Holder, I do not pay the £3 administation fee.

In fact, as a Premier Card Holder, I am usually entitled to a 10% discount so I would expect to pay only £45.90 for a pair of tickets at the Box Office.

If you are in the fifth row for a stand-up comedian then I would consider a pair of seats between E12 - E26 to be good seats.

Please let us know which seat numbers Orange allocate you in due course?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 10, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
We will be going, he was excellent last year!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
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We went to the Tourist Office last week to book this - as we did not want to pay the booking charge

https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html)

and quite honestly we had a great choice of seats - beginning to wonder if we will be singing along on our own.  :laugh:

Also booked the Motown Night at Langtry's Bar at Grand Hotel - £5 on 26th April

Our kind of music and trying to help local venues.

Do I take it from this that the booking fee is still not charged at the tourist office?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 11, 2014, 10:54:06 AM
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This morning, I received in the post a Premier Card Newsletter advertising 'Al Murray - One Man, One Guvner' for 7.30pm on 20 September 2014.

Tickets are only £25.50 each anywhere in the theatre.

Tickets go on sale to the General Public at 10am tomorrow.

As a Premier Card Holder, I do not pay the £3 administation fee.

In fact, as a Premier Card Holder, I am usually entitled to a 10% discount so I would expect to pay only £45.90 for a pair of tickets at the Box Office.

If you are in the fifth row for a stand-up comedian then I would consider a pair of seats between E12 - E26 to be good seats.

Please let us know which seat numbers Orange allocate you in due course?

The ones I got from orange are F10 and 11 Will check the website now and have a look what I could have won
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 11, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
Annoyingly seats available everywhere!! Some pre sale that was  &shake&

Orange did try and charge me an extra £3.95 for postage as well, until I phoned them up and told them what's what  $angry$, they refunded it!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
I've just booked two front row tickets for Al Murray on line. Should be a great show! The last one here was great!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 11, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
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I've just booked two front row tickets for Al Murray on line. Should be a great show! The last one here was great!

You're brave!  $good$ I would have gone front row myself actually had Orange not mugged me!
Oh well lesson learned.  :'(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2014, 12:29:13 PM
Very brave!  :laugh: I saw this on Facebook a couple of days ago with the offer of tickets, but none were front row, so I waited until 10am and booked them online with Venue Cymru.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 12, 2014, 11:56:59 PM
If you recall recently the band CAST were booked in the Venue Cymru.
At the time I did think it was an odd choice, as they were never THAT big in their day.

I was chatting last night to a couple who are good friends with the local guy who booked and promoted it.
Sadly, he lost a considerable sum of money, and it just shows how dangerous it can be for the 'unconnected' to organise such events.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2014, 01:48:52 PM
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We went to the Tourist Office last week to book this - as we did not want to pay the booking charge

https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Solid-Silver-60-s-2014.html)

and quite honestly we had a great choice of seats - beginning to wonder if we will be singing along on our own.  :laugh:

Also booked the Motown Night at Langtry's Bar at Grand Hotel - £5 on 26th April

Our kind of music and trying to help local venues.

Do I take it from this that the booking fee is still not charged at the tourist office?

To answer my own question.

There are NO booking fees charged if tickets are booked via the T. I. C.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 15, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
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If you recall recently the band CAST were booked in the Venue Cymru.
At the time I did think it was an odd choice, as they were never THAT big in their day.

I was chatting last night to a couple who are good friends with the local guy who booked and promoted it.
Sadly, he lost a considerable sum of money, and it just shows how dangerous it can be for the 'unconnected' to organise such events.

Any idea how many were there? I liked them years ago, but not worth paying 20 odd pound to see to be honest - it was on a weeknight as well I think
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 24, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
It has been announced that Jimmy Osmond will join the cast of this year's Panto, Cinderella.

Along with regular comedian, John Evans, it promises to be another excellent show.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 25, 2014, 09:41:52 PM
Apparently if one is a Members of Llandudno U3A, discounted tickets are available for the shows!

What about the rest of Llandudno area residents?    Something wrong somewhere!  :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 25, 2014, 09:49:12 PM
Yorkie, I think you will find it is quite normal for discounted tickets to be available for Group Bookings.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 26, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
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Yorkie, I think you will find it is quite normal for discounted tickets to be available for Group Bookings.

Yes I concur with what you say, but in this instance I believe that one can buy as an individual and discount given on presentation of Membership card.

Bit different to buying 20 all at the same time.   This should be used to draw business from outside the area for coach parties and the like.

We all pay towards the place and also our local taxes so why should one elenent of the Community  get such privileges?   Discrimination in my book!  Perhaps if the prices were reduced and the daft booking fees removed the place could survive without subsidies.  They seem to operate by the law of diminishing returns by upping the prices to make up for past losses, and it doesn't work!
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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 26, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
According to the publicly-accessible Llandudno U3A website, Yorkie, that is not how it works.

http://u3asitec.org.uk/sites/l/llandudnoarea/docs/localtheatreprogrammeapriljune2014.pdf (http://u3asitec.org.uk/sites/l/llandudnoarea/docs/localtheatreprogrammeapriljune2014.pdf)

I am aware of the group discounts for coach parties but when our eldest was teaching in a local secondary school, she also organised group bookings with group discounts for her students.

As for the booking fee, I do not pay this whenever I book tickets and nor do I pay any credit card charges because like many others I am a Premier Card holder.

I also receive a regular 10% discount off ticket prices as well as ‘two tickets for the price of one’ offers.

For anybody who is a frequent visitor to Venue Cymru and/or Theatr Colwyn then ownership of a Premier Card at an annual cost of £25 is a no-brainer.

For the record and as a disclaimer, I have no connection whatsoever with anyone involved with the theatre although I will admit to being a non-active, non-participating member of the Llandudno U3A.

 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 26, 2014, 08:03:36 PM
Without wishing to split hairs  -  if the Theatre can afford to discount tickets for small parties, who just happen to be Members of some Club or other, they can afford to reduce the prices for EVERYONE, and fill the seats with bums!   Perhaps then we will get the Acts that people are requesting, once the Promoters can see the Theatre well used and full, on a regular basis.

Sorry I got the actual details of U3A wrong. 

Another non active Member, still waiting for my interest to be realised!
 :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on April 27, 2014, 12:28:23 AM
Sorry for interjecting..... what is U3A?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on April 27, 2014, 08:05:10 AM
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Sorry for interjecting..... what is U3A?

Abbreviation for University of the Third Age, a group where one meets, greets, socialises and uses one's skills to help others learn and achieve.

Google it!
 :D
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Post by: Fester on April 27, 2014, 09:53:27 PM
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Sorry for interjecting..... what is U3A?

Abbreviation for University of the Third Age, a group where one meets, greets, socialises and uses one's skills to help others learn and achieve.

Google it!
 :D

Don't need to now do I?   If I Googled everything I would never bother going on a Forum.

The U3A guys,  sounds like they might have 'Lodges'?  ;)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 28, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
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The U3A guys,  sounds like they might have 'Lodges'?  ;)

On the contrary, Fester, and from my experience there are far more gals than guys.  >>>

You maybe interested to learn the Llandudno U3A is now coming to the end of its first year and has well over 600 members.

Anyway, let's please return this topic to Venue Cymru Arena.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on April 28, 2014, 05:53:24 PM
Yes Bri,arena not the theatre
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 28, 2014, 06:52:35 PM
wrex, this should please you:  $good$

http://www.rblws.org.uk/members/wsmembers/annual-conference (http://www.rblws.org.uk/members/wsmembers/annual-conference)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2014, 08:48:34 PM
Shocked that Oscar wants an ice rink in the Arena rather than a proper events team in Venue Cymru dedicated to filling the arena a little more.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 12, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
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Shocked that Oscar wants an ice rink in the Arena rather than a proper events team in Venue Cymru dedicated to filling the arena a little more.

flogging a dead horse?

Yes the management is crap, but it has to be said the audience around here are not a lot better. If they did get decent acts would people support them?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 12, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Simple Minds,Paul Weller,Stereophonics,Manic St Preachers,Kooks,Westlife,Motorhead and others all sellouts so no reason whatsoever why it isnlt being done now or is there.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 13, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
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Simple Minds,Paul Weller,Stereophonics,Manic St Preachers,Kooks,Westlife,Motorhead and others all sellouts so no reason whatsoever why it isnlt being done now or is there.

How many of them came back twice? I think the answer is one - Manics. Seems an odd thing, perhaps the arena isn't fit for purpose, I know Status Quo refused to play it again
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 13, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
I enjoyed them all and they sounded ok to me.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on May 13, 2014, 06:03:07 PM
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I enjoyed them all and they sounded ok to me.

Not my sort of music or entertainment, but I really do think the whole strategy of CCBC with regard to the Theatre complex needs serious consideration.   >>>
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Post by: born2run on May 14, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
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I enjoyed them all and they sounded ok to me.

Even Motorhead?  :o
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Post by: Fester on May 14, 2014, 11:45:25 PM
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I enjoyed them all and they sounded ok to me.

Even Motorhead?  :o

I've said this before, but even bands like Motorhead appreciate good acoustics,
When I asked Lemmy, (the legendary Motorhead frontman), what he thought about the gig afterwards, he said he thought it was so-so.   He was not happy with the sound quality in the arena apparently.
Status Quo have gone on record as having the same view of the Arena.
When Quo returned, they were booked into the much smaller theatre.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on May 21, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
On the subject of Venue Cymru, in 2017 it will be 20 years since the CAMRA members weekend was held in Llandudno.  At that time real ale pubs were scarce and there were no breweries.  The situation has changed massively since then, so the local branch of CAMRA has put in to host the Members Weekend again.

They've been told that it probably won't be 2017 (due to trying to get them North/South alternating), but Llandudno could be in with a shout for 2018. But... at this stage CAMRA are veering towards other places due to the Council charging to much to hire Venue Cymru.

Bearing in mind that it would fill all the hotels in Llandudno for the weekend, not to mention the restaurants, pubs etc. you would think the council would want to support it, other areas certainly do.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on May 21, 2014, 09:56:25 AM
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On the subject of Venue Cymru, in 2017 it will be 20 years since the CAMRA members weekend was held in Llandudno.  At that time real ale pubs were scarce and there were no breweries.  The situation has changed massively since then, so the local branch of CAMRA has put in to host the Members Weekend again.

They've been told that it probably won't be 2017 (due to trying to get them North/South alternating), but Llandudno could be in with a shout for 2018. But... at this stage CAMRA are veering towards other places due to the Council charging to much to hire Venue Cymru.

Bearing in mind that it would fill all the hotels in Llandudno for the weekend, not to mention the restaurants, pubs etc. you would think the council would want to support it, other areas certainly do.

Absolutely mental! If they got all those people there they'd make plenty on the food and drink
We recently hired the DW staduim in Wigan - I venue much grander than Ghosthouse Cymru and the cost........FREE!  ZXZ
These numpties need a good kick up the backside
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on May 21, 2014, 07:45:57 PM
No desire,no clean beaches,no gardens kept and certainly not many conferences or gigs to attract people into town,yet last nite all they could say is Llandudno is important to tourism,am i aloud to say b--l--ks.Only one agenda in CCBC and that is to try and revive Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on May 22, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
Tickets are now on sale for the Mike Peters/Alarm Gathering 2015 at VC which will be taking place from 30th January - 1st February 2015.  It's not cheap as it appears you have to book for the whole event rather rather than picking and choosing the bits you want to attend but it always sells out anyway.

For those too tight to pay there's a sing-a-long walk along the promenade scheduled for the morning of Feb 1st which I assume you can join in for free (assuming the promenade hasn't been washed away by then).

http://www.thealarm.com/archives/21378 (http://www.thealarm.com/archives/21378)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 13, 2014, 06:45:10 AM
What else has been in the Arena and can we find out how many days a year the Arena is used.Saturday night would make a good nightclub night.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2014, 07:55:51 PM
The Arena has another booking,Robert Plant in November ,we have James Blunt next month so last May(2013) was the last concert,not bad a gap of 14 months without anybody staying in our HOTELS,oh well at least it will only be 3 months inbetween gigs this time. I wonder how many of the 2,500 at both of these gigs will be staying overnight and generating income for the hotel they stay in,the pub they have a drink in and the restaurant they eat in,CCBC get your act together and do better.None of us know what obstacles CCBC put in the way of a promotor.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Jack on June 25, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Llandudno's Venue Cymru will host a major new snooker tournament - the World Grand Prix - in March 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/28020012 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/28020012)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Mikethewatch on June 25, 2014, 09:35:04 PM
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What else has been in the Arena and can we find out how many days a year the Arena is used.Saturday night would make a good nightclub night.

What a great idea, kids have nowhere to go and that would be ideal.
Trouble is the inmates in the two blocks of flats would no doubt complain about noise.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2014, 07:32:06 AM
When the new theatre in Bangor is complete is Venue Cymru going to take a big hit,not sure what the capacity of the brand new venue is but it could hit Llandudno hard.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on June 26, 2014, 10:40:25 AM
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When the new theatre in Bangor is complete is Venue Cymru going to take a big hit,not sure what the capacity of the brand new venue is but it could hit Llandudno hard.


You're constantly telling us there is nothing on in Venue Cymru so by that logic a new theatre in Bangor should have no impact on Llandudno at all.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on June 26, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
Ghosthouse Cymru is crap to be fair. The snooker thing is good for the town, but they need to get some bands in that appeal to somebody under 60 $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
Arena SDQ Arena
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on June 30, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Plant got some rave reviews at Glastonbury I expect tickets will fly out for this one
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: FatAndy on June 30, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
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The Arena has another booking,Robert Plant in November ,we have James Blunt next month so last May(2013) was the last concert,not bad a gap of 14 months without anybody staying in our HOTELS,oh well at least it will only be 3 months inbetween gigs this time.

Peter Andre is playing the arena in October and Robert Plant in November so that will be two gigs in consecutive months  D).
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 13, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
Would you believe it UB40 now playing the night after Robert Plant,you don;t gat one for months then two in a week,happy days.It seems there is a new man in charge of the Arena and it is certainly paying off,good news for the hotel buisness.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on July 13, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Maybe we will get a music act whose best days weren't twenty+ years ago at some point?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on July 13, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
DaveR it taken long enought lets be grateful for whatever we can get..
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on July 13, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
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Maybe we will get a music act whose best days weren't twenty+ years ago at some point?

Someone like Bill Hayley and his Comets from 60 years ago, maybe?  Or even the Rolling Stones!    Dolly Parton goes down a bomb, so they say!   But I know what you mean.   :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 14, 2014, 10:05:38 AM
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Maybe we will get a music act whose best days weren't twenty+ years ago at some point?

 _))* _))*
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: cygnusx-1 on July 14, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
As much as I enjoyed seeing Robert Plant in the early 80s and also in that band when they supported Chas and Dave at Knebworth(or was it the other way round!!!) I have made an executive decision not to attend as I do not want to be disapointed like when I saw Greg Lake at Venue Cymru.

Friends see various tribute acts linked to Pink Floyd but I always refuse to go as I want to remember the original Animals show I saw back in the 70s.

I know I am getting old but I have bought the last offerings by Dream Theater and California Breed and would consider travelling to see them and maybe one or two others but in general I would not open the curtains to most acts even if they were on the back lawn! 8) :-X 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on July 14, 2014, 08:23:58 PM
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As much as I enjoyed seeing Robert Plant in the early 80s and also in that band when they supported Chas and Dave at Knebworth(or was it the other way round!!!) I have made an executive decision not to attend as I do not want to be disapointed like when I saw Greg Lake at Venue Cymru.

Friends see various tribute acts linked to Pink Floyd but I always refuse to go as I want to remember the original Animals show I saw back in the 70s.

I know I am getting old but I have bought the last offerings by Dream Theater and California Breed and would consider travelling to see them and maybe one or two others but in general I would not open the curtains to most acts even if they were on the back lawn! 8) :-X 


In fairness to Greg Lake, I thought he & his band were great when they played Venue Cymru, it was the terrible attendance figure that was disappointing because of a lack of promotion.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 14, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
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Friends see various tribute acts linked to Pink Floyd but I always refuse to go as I want to remember the original Animals show I saw back in the 70s.

We also saw Pink Floyd years ago, but do give Brit Floyd a try, they are excellent, we have seen them twice in Venue Cymru and they were superb, back again later in the year! You can see them on YouTube!  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on July 15, 2014, 09:30:19 AM
I've seen far too many Pink Floyd tribute bands, never the real thing though. The Australian are by far the best I've seen but the local band Pinc Ffloyd are actually very good too
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2014, 12:24:40 AM
Not the Arena but a brilliant nite with Jools Holland and guests,full house and brilliant.Back to the Arena ,after Robert Plant and UB40 its gone quiet,prove to us this is not a one off and keep the Arena going,please.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2014, 08:03:06 AM
I think we labour under the misapprehension that VC doesn’t really do a lot.  In fact, I’ve spoken to someone in CCBC to get some facts and figures, and the VC Arena is hired 1 day out of every three. Okay - that means it’s empty for two-thirds of the year, but as venues go, that’s actually not that bad. A lot of the bookings are for conferences, which obviously won’t be widely known outside of the conference circuit, but that also means a lot of business for the hotels and shops. And that’s on top of all the use the Theatre, restaurant and meeting rooms get which means that the building is open almost every day.
 
In terms of gigs, it seems VC faces a raft of problems. Apparently, many of the big-name tour promoters actually own the venues in which the acts perform (or have deals with venue chains), which means that not only do they benefit directly from the ticket income but they also get the benefit from the bar takings. Naturally, the promoters are going to favour their own places first, and try to get what they can from smaller places - which could well mean unrealistically high ticket prices.
 
The VC management work with a remit that places restrictions on what they can do and how they do it, but it boils down to getting the best value for the taxpayer out of the place, which means hosting as many events as possible. One thing that did interest me was that as with the majority of venues, attendance for the International Concert series has declined year on year, which means Damocles is hanging perilously close in terms of orchestral shows.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2014, 06:17:14 PM
Oh well lets all believe what comes out of the management shall we.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 03, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
I have a friend who works  at VC. I was in his flat i had a look at a VC rota. I was surprised to see the arena was only empty for about 6 or 7 days of month and this was the odd day between a number of conferences, and i guess they need those days to switch and set up etc. So i for one will agree, although we don't see a list of whats actually going on in the arena there is a lot in there! Why should be venue publish a list of private bookings? And I'm sure a conference or event brings in a lot more money than a gig would.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 04, 2014, 01:41:49 AM
I'm sorry Ian, C Jones etc.... but within that supposed list of VC Arena bookings, there are many 'events' such as table-top sales, charity events,  poorly attended trade-shows.......  none of which bring any revenue enhancing opportunities for a major seaside town.

When major acts such as Simple Minds etc, come to town the pubs, eateries and hotels are VERY BUSY for the day before and after the event.

I'm afraid that the detail does not stand up to scrutiny, and the quality of events is a little 'thin', partly for the reasons that Ian mentioned.

In any case... as an economic entity, the accounts show that it is NOT VIABLE.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 04, 2014, 01:54:54 AM
Conferences with upto 1000 people attended for more than one day on a row. 90% stopping in local hotels and eating out. And a private company paying to book the arena.

Or

A production company putting on a gig, Taking 90% of the ticket sales and pretty much getting the venue for nothing, and attended by mostly locals who drive home and will eat before the come out.

I spent 4 years working in the Hilton Manchester doing conferences. These are facts. Conferences and events make more money for the venue than any gig. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on August 04, 2014, 08:04:46 AM
C jones believe me walk past their and you will see ,they are 10/20 people in the rooms small company seminars , oh we had dickinsons real deal last week ,as fester says the place is running at a loss, you say you worked in Manchester bit different from here wouldn't,t you agree.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 04, 2014, 08:12:28 AM
What would your solution be then, Norman?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on August 04, 2014, 10:18:15 AM
Easy Ian get someone in there to run the place properly ,every time Wrex bangs on about getting gigs in there he gets shot down ,it would make a loss ,flipping place is running at a loss now ,it's been mentioned about a cinema type ( you know somewhere for visitors to go when wet )and locals ,  only needs a little thought ,plenty of bands out there when was the last time person in charge of getting things in there stepped out of wales to look what can be done .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
The frequency and quality of acts in the theatre since the arena has been built has declined not improved!

Van Morrison
Status Quo
Willie Nelson
Don Mclean

countless others - all played the theatre before that white elephant was built. Quo played every year.

Wrexham with a tiny arena and Buckley with a nightclub manage to get acts week in week out.
Nothing to do with promoters owning venues - what a load of  _))*
To do with this theatre management clearly not having the right contacts.

One example  - Levellers Greatest hits tour this year - they are playing in Wrexham - why not the arena?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SDQ on August 04, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
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The frequency and quality of acts in the theatre since the arena has been built has declined not improved!

Van Morrison
Status Quo
Willie Nelson
Don Mclean

countless others - all played the theatre before that white elephant was built. Quo played every year.

Wrexham with a tiny arena and Buckley with a nightclub manage to get acts week in week out.
Nothing to do with promoters owning venues - what a load of  _))*
To do with this theatre management clearly not having the right contacts.

One example  - Levellers Greatest hits tour this year - they are playing in Wrexham - why not the arena?


I think the geographical location plays a part too. I think it's just too out of the way for most bands to play, unless they use it as a stop off on the way to the Irish ferry.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 04, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
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C jones believe me walk past their and you will see ,they are 10/20 people in the rooms small company seminars , oh we had dickinsons real deal last week ,as fester says the place is running at a loss, you say you worked in Manchester bit different from here wouldn't,t you agree.

So you can see in the arena can you now? Missed that bit? I The events I'm talking about are in the arena, as this topic states, not meeting rooms. I've attended two conference now in the arena both had almost 1000 people in the arena, most of which stop in hotels. And the rota i saw had many events like this, it's just not our business to know. Before you say the arena doesn't get used, can we not ask for a full list of what actually has happened in there this year? I think it would shut a few people up who are just on an anti VC mission.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
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The frequency and quality of acts in the theatre since the arena has been built has declined not improved!

Van Morrison
Status Quo
Willie Nelson
Don Mclean

countless others - all played the theatre before that white elephant was built. Quo played every year.

Wrexham with a tiny arena and Buckley with a nightclub manage to get acts week in week out.
Nothing to do with promoters owning venues - what a load of  _))*
To do with this theatre management clearly not having the right contacts.

One example  - Levellers Greatest hits tour this year - they are playing in Wrexham - why not the arena?


I think the geographical location plays a part too. I think it's just too out of the way for most bands to play, unless they use it as a stop off on the way to the Irish ferry.

Similar sized venues in Cornwall and the Isle of Wight do a lot better than VC
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2014, 12:26:27 PM
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C jones believe me walk past their and you will see ,they are 10/20 people in the rooms small company seminars , oh we had dickinsons real deal last week ,as fester says the place is running at a loss, you say you worked in Manchester bit different from here wouldn't,t you agree.

So you can see in the arena can you now? Missed that bit? I The events I'm talking about are in the arena, as this topic states, not meeting rooms. I've attended two conference now in the arena both had almost 1000 people in the arena, most of which stop in hotels. And the rota i saw had many events like this, it's just not our business to know. Before you say the arena doesn't get used, can we not ask for a full list of what actually has happened in there this year? I think it would shut a few people up who are just on an anti VC mission.

So the place is doing well as a conference centre but crap as a theatre/arena.  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2014, 12:38:43 PM
ARE THESE VENUES PRIVATE OR COUNCIL,   ITS DOWN TO MOTIVATION AND JUST REWARDS, IF A MANAGERS PAY AND OR JOB, DEPENDS ON RESULTS, WATCH THE DIFFERENCE..... THIS APPLIES NOT JUST TO V.C. BUT ALL PROJECTS NEW OR OLD.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
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ARE THESE VENUES PRIVATE OR COUNCIL,   ITS DOWN TO MOTIVATION AND JUST REWARDS, IF A MANAGERS PAY AND OR JOB, DEPENDS ON RESULTS, WATCH THE DIFFERENCE..... THIS APPLIES NOT JUST TO V.C. BUT ALL PROJECTS NEW OR OLD.
I agree. In Council run projects or businesses, there is never what I call the 'necessity to succeed' that all private businesses have. Porth Eirias is a prime example of this, a compete mishmash of nonsense that would never have been approved in the private sector in a million years.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on August 04, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
So c jones how is the place running at a great loss then ,and it's my hard earned money that is getting used ,all well and good seeing rota,s they don,t tell the story when it's council owned as dave says if it was private the manager would have to justify his salary ,and I don,t walk around with my eyes closed , I can see and hear honest people speaking .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 04, 2014, 10:12:30 PM
When all these conferences go on in the Arena is the Hall upstairs empty and is the theater empty,who has priiority the Arena or theater,meaning do they shove conferences in the Arena hoping they might get a comedian in the theater hence leaving the Arena unavailable for a band,there is a lot more to all this,some months the theater has nothing on,something not right here.The Hall holds 1,ooo people,the theater 1,500 and the Arena 2,500,which one would you try and fill with top bands and leave available,no wonder the losses are great.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 05, 2014, 12:50:37 AM
C Jones,  I attended the Welsh Spring Fair at the VC in February.  (in the Arena)
It is a four-day event,  where Welsh and other businesses are able to showcase their wares and attract buyers.

I pop in every year, but it is a complete waste of time, and I cannot believe it is sustainable, unless it is funded from the public purse, (which I don't know)

There are about 50 businesses with stands, and a couple of girls on reception dealing with name bands.
But they look startled when anyone walks in, and the 'sales' people on the stands nearly trip over themselves to get your attention,  because is it so POORLY attended it's unbelievable.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 05, 2014, 07:20:58 AM
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In Council run projects or businesses, there is never what I call the 'necessity to succeed' that all private businesses have. Porth Eirias is a prime example of this, a compete mishmash of nonsense that would never have been approved in the private sector in a million years.

I wonder, however, if private industry would ever have built the facility in the first place? If we take the skip out of it for a moment, do we have any figures on the running cost of VC and usage stats over a two year period? I'm asking this because I personally know little about the place, other than the couple of events I've attended were packed out.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 05, 2014, 07:35:28 AM
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In Council run projects or businesses, there is never what I call the 'necessity to succeed' that all private businesses have.

I think we've got to be careful about allowing the discussion to expand beyond the parameters of VC's profitability and use, otherwise we'll lose focus, partly as there exist absolute mountains of data that prove private businesses are far from the paragons of efficiency some believe them to be and numerous examples of state-owned companies that perform in an exemplary fashion.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2014, 08:37:32 AM
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In Council run projects or businesses, there is never what I call the 'necessity to succeed' that all private businesses have.

I think we've got to be careful about allowing the discussion to expand beyond the parameters of VC's profitability and use, otherwise we'll lose focus, partly as there exist absolute mountains of data that prove private businesses are far from the paragons of efficiency some believe them to be and numerous examples of state-owned companies that perform in an exemplary fashion.
The difference is that I'm not paying private businesses to be efficient or otherwise, but I do resent my taxes being wasted on projects like Porth Eirias when there is supposedly no money available for to even repair the pavements in Llandudno.

Venue Cymru is a very useful facility, but that's not to say it couldn't be run far more efficiently if management was outsourced. Private companies have shown interest in taking over the management of it, but CCBC couldn't even get the Tender process right (they only put the contract out to a 3 year period, instead of 10 years), so the incumbent management team very conveniently got the job.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
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In Council run projects or businesses, there is never what I call the 'necessity to succeed' that all private businesses have. Porth Eirias is a prime example of this, a compete mishmash of nonsense that would never have been approved in the private sector in a million years.

I wonder, however, if private industry would ever have built the facility in the first place? If we take the skip out of it for a moment, do we have any figures on the running cost of VC and usage stats over a two year period? I'm asking this because I personally know little about the place, other than the couple of events I've attended were packed out.
Figures are here:

In the year to March 2012 the Venue Cymru incurred expenditure of
£6,672,000. As a Local Authority run venue it operates a balanced budget but
the local authority does hold reserves of £222,000 for repairs and renewals for
both of the council run theatres. The contribution by the Local Authority in the
year was £1,772,000
(27% of income) with revenue funding from the Arts
Council of £78,000 (1% of funding) with the remaining income being earned
income.

For the year to March 2013 the organisation incurred £5,673,121 of
expenditure. A lottery project grant of £45,000 was received in the year in
addition to the annual revenue funding. The local authority supplied funds
totalling £1,810,994
, £609,131 of which were for capital costs and central
support charges which are outside the control of the theatre management. The
earned income in the year was £3,639,737 and to achieve a balanced budget
the reserves of £222,000 were used.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 05, 2014, 08:57:54 AM
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The difference is that I'm not paying private businesses to be efficient or otherwise, but I do resent my taxes being wasted on projects like Porth Eirias when there is supposedly no money available for to even repair the pavements in Llandudno.

You do have a point.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on August 05, 2014, 09:35:31 AM
Thank you Dave R.  I have previously posted the figures and have received via a FoI request the breakdown of the costs for Venue Cymru.

As I have said many times before, similar sized venues in more out of the way places do better.

Venue Cymru could make money, but won't make money whilst it is run as a council operation rather than as a commercial business.  The management of VC do not have to worry about making a profit to get there ever increasing salary cheques.  If the theatre was let to a commercial operation (such as the one which runs Access All Eirias), it would have to make money or the management would find themselves booted out.

Whilst, I'm at it, have you seen the state of the fabric of the building recently.  On one side I noticed the letters have started falling off!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 05, 2014, 06:35:22 PM
DaveR am I correct, is VC running at a loss of, between one and a half to two million pounds actual loss per year?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
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DaveR am I correct, is VC running at a loss of, between one and a half to two million pounds actual loss per year?
That is correct.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 05, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
I thought we were discussing a case of bad management/ poor attendance, but this situation is ludicrous .
It shows the importance of having the figures available (thank you D.)  I am gobsmacked, I dread to think what else is going on, I cannot understand the mindset of the people, that are allowing this to happen.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on August 05, 2014, 07:41:58 PM
I think it is important in this, or any other debate about CCBC, that it is the Highly paid and Employed Council Officers who think up the daft ideas and are responsible for the day to day operation.   Councillors only approve or disapprove their ideas based on the evidence or suggestions given to them by these smooth tongued individuals.

The blame can only start and stop at the top of the pile.   Is it not therefore about time that Iwan Davies fell on his sword and the County employed someone with a decent business background, capable of sorting out the mess we are in and building an effective and efficient service to the public?

 :rage:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2014, 12:32:55 AM
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DaveR am I correct, is VC running at a loss of, between one and a half to two million pounds actual loss per year?
That is correct.


.... and rather than improving, the financial situation has actually got worse!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: bigbadhenry on August 06, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
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I think it is important in this, or any other debate about CCBC, that it is the Highly paid and Employed Council Officers who think up the daft ideas and are responsible for the day to day operation.   Councillors only approve or disapprove their ideas based on the evidence or suggestions given to them by these smooth tongued individuals.

The blame can only start and stop at the top of the pile.   Is it not therefore about time that Iwan Davies fell on his sword and the County employed someone with a decent business background, capable of sorting out the mess we are in and building an effective and efficient service to the public?

 :rage:

I agree it,s about time Iwan Davies went. I've never heard so many complaints about CBCC since he was appointed.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on August 06, 2014, 12:34:13 PM
In case anyone is interested, these links give the following:

Detailed breakdown of income & expenditure for Venue Cymru & Theatr Colwyn 2010/11, 2011/12 and 2012/13
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1bUCYhc420wdXcwX0RadGZ0SGM/edit?usp=sharing

Summary Income and Expenditure for Venue Cymru, Theatr Colwyn and the Great Orme Tram since 2001/02
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCEan1ohcdNw5JJEckJXT8hudE0z5eAxi8h50aop1Hg/edit?usp=sharing

No commercial business would be allowed to continue the way these have.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
Thanks NWPO,  The main thing that hit me, the salaries,  £1.700.000. with a total cost of £2.500.000 million p.a.
the second link shows the period 2001/2013 with a total loss of £18.000.000.million, for the three venues, VC,TC and the tram,  ( I have written the words million, because its so hard to believe these figures) .
I do not fully understand accounting, but, with these simple breakdowns, a child could see the problem, as I said before, whoever is allowing this to continue, needs FIRED.

Or we should all apply for a salaried position at VC.....
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Going over NWPO 2nd. link again, I made a mistake, The total loss for the three venues VC,TC and the trams is

                                                               £20.702.000 (million.)

To allow this to happen over a 10 year period, year in, year out, and to allow it to continue, is nothing short of criminal.
I really need these figures, explained, is there anybody out there who can help.    PLEASE.



                                                     
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 06, 2014, 04:31:32 PM
Apparently they do really well at conferences though  ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on August 06, 2014, 04:38:21 PM
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Going over NWPO 2nd. link again, I made a mistake, The total loss for the three venues VC,TC and the trams is
                                                           £20.702.000 (million.)

To allow this to happen over a 10 year period, year in, year out, and to allow it to continue, is nothing short of criminal.
I really need these figures, explained, is there anybody out there who can help.    PLEASE.                                                 

Write to CCBC requesting the information you require  quoting the Freedom of Information Act.  They have a specially dedicated email address that is published on the Council web site.  You can send your request by email and ask for a written answer by snail mail or email.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
 $thanx$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 06, 2014, 04:42:06 PM
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Going over NWPO 2nd. link again, I made a mistake, The total loss for the three venues VC,TC and the trams is

                                                               £20.702.000 (million.)

To allow this to happen over a 10 year period, year in, year out, and to allow it to continue, is nothing short of criminal.
I really need these figures, explained, is there anybody out there who can help.    PLEASE.                                       

In the case of the tramway, if they ran it more often, a longer season and some evening trips then they should get more income. Although with preserved steam railways they rely heavily on volunteers to help run them and even then some struggle!
As far as the theatres go, sounds like they could not run a p*#¥ up in a brewery! To leave it making huge losses for all that time is inexcusable!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
To be fair the tram, was the only one who made a profit 5years out of the 10, and I do not think they should be lumped in with the others.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 06, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
And they incurred some pretty heavy expenditure when they had to relay almost the entire lower track.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on August 06, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
I notice c jones has gone quite ,you can always fiddle about with a rota ,the figures don,t lie .its about time the welsh assembley done something about ccbc.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 07, 2014, 12:25:17 AM
i'm here. I just have other things to do with my time. Do these figures show any wage re-chargers to the shows? Also one interesting fact that i don't know how it would be worked out is the amount that VC makes for the area? Hotel nights etc?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 07, 2014, 06:49:10 AM
Could you explain what 'wage re-chargers' are?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: norman08 on August 07, 2014, 08:15:31 AM
If you stand at the links roundabout and watch the cars going out not many stay the night ,when the alarm play friends of mine in the hotel business say they do quite well .
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on August 07, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
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To be fair the tram, was the only one who made a profit 5years out of the 10, and I do not think they should be lumped in with the others.

To be fair, I wouldn't personally lump it in, however, Conwy CBC do.

I do however agree that there is no reason why it couldn't be run on a longer season and late into the evening in the summer holidays. Why not do some Santa runs during December for the kids?

However, saying that, it would involve running the tramway as a commercial operation - something Conwy CBC have no idea about!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 07, 2014, 03:34:18 PM
I am not disputing the benefit to local businesses etc. that the VC generates, or that conferences make more than shows or concerts, and I am not on an anti VC mission.
I am trying to understand, the financial figures, mentioned before, if I was manager of a business, and the owner asked why I was running at a loss, and my excuse, was, not to worry, the local hotels etc were doing well from us!!
I have spent my entire working life, running businesses, as a manager and an owner, so when I see losses over a ten year period of £20.000.000 I really am at a loss to accept this situation.
there is not one private owner who would accept this, they would have questioned and tried to resolve the problem, if unable to do so, they would have gone bankrupt, they would not have access to the bottomless reserves available to council operations.

 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
The problem is simply that the County is being run as a Business by people who have no experience of business.

They have no idea about Profit and Loss, they know nothing about efficiency at work, manpower requirements, expenditure and overheads and the thousand and one other disciplines necessary to run a successful enterprise.  Result chaos!

I was employed by CCBC after many years in Industry and was appalled at some of the work ethics I saw.  Every day had to start with a tea or coffee and a natter about the exploits of the previous evening or the week end football.   Every advantage was taken of cigarette breaks and some people's day was spent as a five minute work break between every half hour cigarette!   Many vehicles could be found, with the occupants, hiding in secluded places in various parts of the County.   There never appeared to be any urgency about their work or duties, in fact it was akin to watching a movie in slow motion.  The attitude was spread across the whole work force from white to blue collar.

Fortunately there were also many who enjoyed their work, accepted their responsibilities, and gave a fair day's work.   Without them everything would have quickly ground to a stop.  It was just a crying shame that the rest were riding on the backs of their efforts.
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Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 07, 2014, 11:40:55 PM
Yorkie,  Steve H.   
I too spent my entire career, in management (some would say mis-management) of private companies.

You have summed up the problem in a nutshell.   
Where weak management at Senior and Middle levels exists, there are no consequences for turning in a poor performance, and a loss-making result.   &shake&

Someone needs to grasp those responsible by the scruff of their necks and EXPLAIN what will happen if certain criteria are not met.   But sadly, these days, that person is likely to be 'done' for harassment in the workplace,  or the staff members will just go off sick with 'stress and anxiety'    &shake& &shake&

So the world has gone soft, what is to be done?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 08, 2014, 07:03:42 AM
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But sadly, these days, that person is likely to be 'done' for harassment in the workplace,  or the staff members will just go off sick with 'stress and anxiety'

I think a lot lies in how the capability, discipline and competency policies are drafted. It's a myth that under-performing employees in council-run occupations can't be managed effectively, but it does - as F says - depend on a management willing to grasp the nettle and institute adequate monitoring programmes of the type that exist within well run private companies.  Y paints a slightly worrying picture of the possible management culture in CCBC which, if accurate, may be one reason why things go pear-shaped as often as they seem to.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on August 08, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
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i'm here. I just have other things to do with my time. Do these figures show any wage re-chargers to the shows? Also one interesting fact that i don't know how it would be worked out is the amount that VC makes for the area? Hotel nights etc?

Could you explain what "wage re-chargers" are, please?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 08, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
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I am not interested in the detail of any bids or tenders,  what I am more interested in is,

1, What are the management's targets and objectives for performance improvement at VC
2, What strategy have the management devised to meet these objectives.
3, What consequences will be faced if the management fail to achieve their objectives.


I am sorry to say, that in the heat of this recent debate,I boobed, it was pointed out to me, by mrs S. asking, if I had read page one, I said of course I had........WRONG    again. So my apoligies to all who have gone before me, I shall now sit down and do my homework.   :-[
However, bearing in mind the above quote, ( from 2010) I would urge new and old readers to return to the beginning of this thread, and I hope we are not still discussing this in another 5 years.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
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Venue Cymru could make money, but won't make money whilst it is run as a council operation rather than as a commercial business.  The management of VC do not have to worry about making a profit to get there ever increasing salary cheques.  If the theatre was let to a commercial operation (such as the one which runs Access All Eirias), it would have to make money or the management would find themselves booted out.

I have read all of the thread now, and realise I have said nothing new,....but, going over the figures again, the main thing that stands out, is the salary costs £1.700.000 million which is very close to VC's. yearly loss.
I'm, maybe out of touch with current salaries, but this amount seems extreme, bearing in mind there is a further£350.000 wage bill added to this amount.
So, I am still gobsmacked by the situation, and can only agree with Festers comments of 2010(above) and NWPO more recent quote.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2014, 03:01:46 PM
After a hetic July with Robert Page and UB40 being announced we have slipped back into the same oldways,please keep the bookings coming
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 15, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
How about Example on the 17 October?

Tickets go on sale next Friday.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on August 16, 2014, 12:02:36 AM
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How about Example on the 17 October?

Tickets go on sale next Friday.

Never heard of them / it / him?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on August 16, 2014, 12:27:28 AM
Popular for the younger people of the area
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2014, 06:21:40 AM
Elliott John Gleave,nice one Bri and venue cymru
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 18, 2014, 10:47:56 AM
That's more like it  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 18, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=678aed78d939ed7833519dd56&id=93acf8fb40&e=453aa48105 (http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=678aed78d939ed7833519dd56&id=93acf8fb40&e=453aa48105)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
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Earlier this year the management of Venue Cymru went out to public tender. This was required to fulfil an condition of funding for the Conference Centre extention.
Although there was some interest, only 2 organisations bid. 1 was the internal management team and the other failed to fulfil all the criterea of the bid, hence the tender was closed.

Before the tender was issued I did argue that the main issue was that the length of the tender was for just 3 years, I tried to argue that the contract should have been for at least 10 years with possible extentions if performance targets were met. I didn't think 3 years would attract any serious contenders, as it was very little time to invest and to see the benefits of that investment.
I did manage to get some support from Cabinet members but not enough, and the 3 years was agreed.
Feedback from organisations that di not bid was that the term was not long enough!!!
 I would still like to see what a serious external agency could have offered.

Interesting old post .......     
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on August 27, 2014, 10:42:28 AM
I thought it was conferences they were brilliant at?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
Simple Minds UK Tour

Saturday 28 March 2015

Tickets: £39.50
 
Tickets go on general sale Friday 26th September.

ONLINE: www.venuecymru.co.uk (http://www.venuecymru.co.uk) (10am)
PHONE: 01492 872000 (10am)
IN PERSON: Venue Cymru Box Office (10am)

This is an all standing event in the Arena | Age: 14 yrs and over only

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on September 22, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
Im glad they think the arena is good enought to re-visit
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 22, 2014, 08:41:42 PM
Indeed!  The last Simple Minds gig (in 2013) was excellent, and the town was mega busy that night.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2014, 09:38:01 AM
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The last Simple Minds gig (in 2013) was excellent
'Simple Minds' and 'excellent' in the same sentence. Never thought I'd see the day....  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on September 23, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Talking of Venue Cymru, the amended draft of the Annual Accounts has appeared today as part of the agenda for the Audit Committee next week.

This years loss is a mere £1,891,000 or £1,856,000 before IAS19 adjustment.

Turnover was DOWN from £5,046,000 to £4,387,000 and expenditure likewise from £7,056,000 in 2012/13 to £6,243,000 in 2013/14.

However, it did achieve it's objective of "making a surplus on the costs of performances and conferences in order to make a
contribution towards the staffing, maintenance and other running costs of the building".  Or in other words, taxpayers are still paying for a white elephant.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
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Talking of Venue Cymru, the amended draft of the Annual Accounts has appeared today as part of the agenda for the Audit Committee next week.
This years loss is a mere £1,891,000 or £1,856,000 before IAS19 adjustment.
Turnover was DOWN from £5,046,000 to £4,387,000 and expenditure likewise from £7,056,000 in 2012/13 to £6,243,000 in 2013/14.
However, it did achieve it's objective of "making a surplus on the costs of performances and conferences in order to make a
contribution towards the staffing, maintenance and other running costs of the building".  Or in other words, taxpayers are still paying for a white elephant.
Hi NWPO, I cannot find the report, have you got a link please.    $thanx$


Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on September 23, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
Full copy of the accounts to be signed off by the council are here:

http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000176/M00004126/AI00047937/ (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000176/M00004126/AI00047937/)$201314StatementofAccountsPostAuditAdjAMENDED.doc.pdf
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 04:17:43 PM
Hi NWPO

Sorry not allowing me in   " listing denied"
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on September 23, 2014, 05:07:25 PM
David Gray Dec 3rd: https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: nwpo on September 24, 2014, 09:19:30 AM
Ah, obviously the forum software doesn't like the dollar sign in the URL.

Here it is from Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z9w696tgawk6b5y/201314StatementofAccountsPostAuditAdjAMENDED.doc.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/z9w696tgawk6b5y/201314StatementofAccountsPostAuditAdjAMENDED.doc.pdf?dl=0)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on September 24, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
Thank you NWPO..I did notice the dollar sign, but all ok now    $thanx$  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on September 24, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
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Talking of Venue Cymru, the amended draft of the Annual Accounts has appeared today as part of the agenda for the Audit Committee next week.

This years loss is a mere £1,891,000 or £1,856,000 before IAS19 adjustment.

Turnover was DOWN from £5,046,000 to £4,387,000 and expenditure likewise from £7,056,000 in 2012/13 to £6,243,000 in 2013/14.

However, it did achieve it's objective of "making a surplus on the costs of performances and conferences in order to make a
contribution towards the staffing, maintenance and other running costs of the building".  Or in other words, taxpayers are still paying for a white elephant.

This years loss is a mere £1,891,000 or £1,856,000 before IAS19 adjustment.

Nice to see the improvement, only one thing to say...... _))*    _))*    _))*

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 24, 2014, 12:31:19 PM
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David Gray Dec 3rd: https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html)

Brilliant, though tickets are a little steep! £38 quid! Is that 2 quid for every year since he last had a song in the charts?

Still I will go though as I saw him at Glastonbury in 2003 and it's one of my happiest memories... peeking out as it does, between all the bitterness and moaning  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 24, 2014, 12:36:29 PM
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David Gray Dec 3rd: https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/david-gray-uk-tour.html)

C Jones - just out of interest and totally off topic. Are you the same C Jones that posted this?

CJones, NWales, 1 hour ago
A pub is not the place for a baby.

On the DM website - it's the thing I read immediately after I replied to your David Gray post! What a coincidence  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: C_jones on September 24, 2014, 06:14:37 PM
Haha, nah thats not me!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
It is just within the realms of possibility that there is more than one C Jones in North Wales.  ?{}?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on September 25, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
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It is just within the realms of possibility that there is more than one C Jones in North Wales.  ?{}?

Well there is only one Fester

And that's one too many

 _))*
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Post by: Fester on September 26, 2014, 12:13:55 AM
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It is just within the realms of possibility that there is more than one C Jones in North Wales.  ?{}?

Well there is only one Fester

And that's one too many

 _))*

There are TWO Festers...... and they are both ME!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
Jessie J, Tom Jones and Jools Holland pictures in Conwy arts showcase

A PHOTOGRAPHIC exhibition that charts highlights in Conwy county’s arts calendar has opened.
 
Document Conwy’s exhibition at the Y Review restaurant in Venue Cymru, Llandudno has been collated from the thousands of photographs taken by Paul Sampson.
 
He said: “It’s been a wonderful opportunity to showcase the life and work behind the scenes at the county’s theatres and performances spaces.
“This also offers a rare chance to own a unique print from the exhibition as we have been running a crowd-funding campaign to cover the costs of print production.”
The exhibition, which opens tomorrow Wednesday, October 8 features stars such as Jools Holland, Marc Almond, Tom Jones, Jessie J and Rick Wakeman, as well as shots of performers and sets and stage crew at major musicals such as Cats and Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139126/jessie-j-tom-jones-and-jools-holland-pictures-in-conwy-arts-showcase.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139126/jessie-j-tom-jones-and-jools-holland-pictures-in-conwy-arts-showcase.aspx)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
Katherine Jenkins will perform at Venue Cymru on 2015 tour

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/katherine-jenkins-perform-venue-cymru-8008687 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/katherine-jenkins-perform-venue-cymru-8008687)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on November 03, 2014, 12:21:16 PM
I just bought the last 2 front row (together seats) for Christy Moore  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 03, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
Great! But who is he?
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Post by: Dave on November 03, 2014, 02:39:38 PM
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Great! But who is he?
You don't know who he is..He is one of the founding members of Planxty and Moving Hearts.

I hadn't heard of them either ??? ???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 03, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
Never heard of them either!  ???  :D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on November 03, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
Moving Hearts are brilliant  ZXZ

But here is one of his solo classics

Christy Moore - Ordinary Man (Live Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIh5dUOz824#ws)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 03, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
Not really my thing, we will be seeing Brit Floyd though!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 03, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
It's not VC, .... but I'm off to see the mighty MOTORHEAD in Manchester on Tuesday night!!     ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: SDQ on November 03, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
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It's not VC, .... but I'm off to see the mighty MOTORHEAD in Manchester on Tuesday night!!     ;D ;D ;D


Do they play Rock 'n Roll?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 03, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
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It's not VC, .... but I'm off to see the mighty MOTORHEAD in Manchester on Tuesday night!!     ;D ;D ;D


Do they play Rock 'n Roll?

Ha ha..... as Lemmy NEVER tires of telling us, that's precisely what they do!  $good$ $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
WIN: Tickets to see Example at Llandudno's Venue Cymru
Example is bringing his UK tour to North Wales this Saturday and the Daily Post have two pairs of tickets for the concert to give away.

Despite selling out arena tours all over the UK, the performer is set to play smaller, more intimate settings on this tour with Llandudno's Venue Cymru an ideal choice for the chart-topper

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/win-tickets-see-example-llandudnos-8131496 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/win-tickets-see-example-llandudnos-8131496)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on November 19, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
CBCC Propose slashing £70,000 from VC and TC's budget next year..... _))* yes a full £70,000 between the

two.....part of their financial planning to save £20,000,000m.... _))* but hope to generate additional income

by increasing car parking charges and bar tarrifs .... _))*


No mention however of the excesive £1,700,000m. salary cost.... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on November 19, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
Yesterday on the radio as I was driving to Colwyn Bay There was a discussion about the price of drinks in a theatre.  One glass of wine in a theatre had cost someone almost £8.00 !
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2014, 09:26:29 PM
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No mention however of the excesive £1,700,000m. salary cost.... :'( :'( :'(

What they need are decent promotions and filling the Theatre with paying customers, and an increased effort to attract Conferences and Functions.  Increasing parking at the Theatre will only put people off.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2014, 06:12:31 PM
That is right Yorkie ,more gigs in the Arena means 2,500 people attending the venue along with the theater goers.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on November 20, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
It's deja-vu,   this brainless strategy of charging people more for an inferior product, or increasing fines and taxing us to death is exactly what they came up with on the last TWO occasions when funding cuts came into play.

It shows a lack of innovative thinking, and a contempt for local residents and tourists alike.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on November 23, 2014, 06:59:53 AM
I hope the kids enjoyed Example last night all 2,500 0f them,its the oldies turn this week with Robert Plant and UB40,now that is another 5,000 people(if UB40 is sold out)people ,work it out for yourselves,7,500 people in one week enjoying 3 gigs in the Arena  and generating more money in Llandudno i bety than Wales GB.CCBC are good at throwing figures around foe their events and how much it brings into the area,WELL WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE,GIGS IN THE ARENA GENERATE THOUSANDS FOR THE TOWN,GET MORE GIGS THEN THE LOSES WILL BE LESS AND NO NEED TO MAKE £70,000 CUTS,END OF
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
Many patrons complain about the £3 admin fee when purchasing tickets at Venue Cymru but tomorrow morning tickets will go on general sale for Neil Diamond at Blackpool Football Club at prices of:

Front row seats - £350 each plus £17.50 booking fee plus £5.95 secure delivery.

Premium seats all located in the front blocks on the pitch floor - £125 each plus £6.25 booking fee plus £5.95 secure delivery.

Pitch seating - £85 each plus £8.50 booking fee plus £5.95 secure delivery.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2014, 12:59:32 PM
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Neil Diamond at Blackpool Football Club
Surely his career has not sunk that low? It would be great to see him in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
I doubt if Neil has a clue about Blackpool, DaveR.

I believe it is more to do with his tour promoters, Cuffe and Taylor, who are based up there and were responsible for bringing Rod Stewart to their local stadium last summer.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on December 02, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
Why so many different booking fees for different prices Bri? And I presume that that is per transaction and not per ticket?
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2014, 02:52:10 PM
Dunno, Nem.

Even I had to look twice !!

I have access to the pre-sale today but I shall not be bothering at those silly prices.

Those booking fees are actually per ticket with an extra fee again to send out your tickets in the post.

It does seem like a racket to me. 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 02, 2014, 03:59:42 PM
I would like to see Neil Diamond, once in my life... but not at those price levels!  :o
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2014, 05:26:43 PM
You just don't know, Fester.  ;)

Events Conwy ‏@eventsconwy 

HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow morning, be sure to check back at 8am!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 03, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
Will Elton John do instead?
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2014, 08:12:55 AM
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Will Elton John do instead?
I guess so?

Elton John will be appearing at Eirias Park on the 6th June 2015. Tickets will be on sale this Friday at 9am.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2014, 08:24:11 AM
Elton John & his Band
Saturday 6 June 2015
Eirias Stadium, Colwyn Bay


Elton John and his band will visit Colwyn Bay on Saturday 6 June 2015 at Eirias Stadium as part of his European tour. This will be Elton’s first ever performance in North Wales.

The tour will feature iconic hits and classic album tracks from throughout his incredible five-decade career, including a selection of songs from his highly acclaimed album, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, which recently celebrated its 40th anniversary with a Deluxe Edition.

“My band and I are very excited about bringing the show to Colwyn Bay. While this will be my first show in North Wales, I have always been knocked out by the reception I have received in Wales ever since my first show there in June of 1976, and I am certain this will be just as memorable. I look forward to seeing everyone at the show at Eirias Stadium, and I am sure we will all have a fantastic time.”

Elton John
Tocynnau / Tickets
£80, £60, £40
Booking fees applies

Tickets go on general sale Friday 5th December at 9am!
ONLINE: www.venuecymru.co.uk (http://www.venuecymru.co.uk) | www.ticketmaster.co.uk (http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk)
PHONE: 01492 872000 | Ticketmaster: 0844 847 2441
IN PERSON: Venue Cymru Box Office
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 03, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
Apparently, Elvis Costello will be appearing the following day in either the Arena or Theatre.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
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Apparently, Elvis Costello will be appearing the following day in either the Arena or Theatre.
Wow, that's someone I'd love to see.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 03, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
I went to see Elvis Costello (and the Attractions) when I was about 14 or 15 and they were a punky outfit then, it was FANTASTIC.

Now as the years wear on, he is a modern jazz and cross-over type act, but still a good draw for Llandudno.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 03, 2014, 05:20:02 PM
Tickets are on sale at Venue Cymru from 9am on Friday, 5th December, which coincides with the start of the Elton John sale.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
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Tickets are on sale at Venue Cymru from 9am on Friday, 5th December, which coincides with the start of the Elton John sale.
According to an email from VC, the Elvis Costello tickets are on sale from 10am on Friday.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 04, 2014, 12:53:37 PM
The promoters are Orchard Entertainment and their website states 9am, Friday, 5 December 2014.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on December 04, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Waterboys and Steve Hackett from Genesis both November next year.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 05, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
Grabbed my Elton John tickets at 9am precisely.

Going back to bed now.   Zzzzzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 06, 2014, 07:50:58 PM
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Grabbed my Elton John tickets at 9am precisely.

Going back to bed now.   Zzzzzzzzzzz.

Never mind me snoozing, what about the rest of the Forum?
I hibernate for a day or two and find hardly any posts on here to read!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on December 06, 2014, 10:09:07 PM
We have all given in too the Town council and CCBC ,they rule and we obey,they got rid of Oscar and now they have silenced the members.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on December 07, 2014, 08:40:23 AM
Quote
Never mind me snoozing, what about the rest of the Forum?
I hibernate for a day or two and find hardly any posts on here to read!

This seems a fairly common phenomenon at this time of year. The other two forums I use have been similarly deserted for the past day or so. I imagine the impending Xmas celebrations are focussing peoples' minds. 
%0% VV I* I* VV %0%
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2014, 09:14:28 AM
I'm in London this weekend, hence my forum absence.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: hollins on December 07, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
Also absent without leave!        ;D $sunny$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on December 08, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
I was on a health and safety course. Good news about Elton John, Waterboys are good too but hardly a big draw these days.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2014, 11:46:48 PM
Well, it's going to be quite lonely at the Reg Dwight Concert.... I seem to be the only one going!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
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Well, it's going to be quite lonely at the Reg Dwight Concert.... I seem to be the only one going!
I've just booked for Elton John and Elvis Costello, seats are still available.  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Dave on December 12, 2014, 05:17:04 PM
I've just booked Max Boyce on 28/3. I didn't realise he had been rescheduled after his health issues meant a cancellation of this years booking.
No advertising anywhere from what I could see so plenty of tickets still available.
After I had paid I was told the tickets couldn't be changed nor the money refunded which was a bit rich considering the last one was cancelled!
Still my reply was that due to their intransigence should I need to I would have no option other than to sell them on the Black Market at hugely inflated prices so suit themselves. :P ;D
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Post by: DaveR on December 29, 2014, 09:05:10 AM
We took the family to see Cinderella at VC last Saturday afternoon. What a great pantomime, very entertaining indeed. Still time to see it:
https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Cinderella-2014.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Cinderella-2014.html)
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Post by: Fester on December 29, 2014, 10:55:22 PM
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We took the family to see Cinderella at VC last Saturday afternoon. What a great pantomime, very entertaining indeed. Still time to see it:
https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Cinderella-2014.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/whats-on/Cinderella-2014.html)
........... Oh No there isn't !
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Post by: FatAndy on January 06, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
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I guess it was put to good use all last weekend hosting an extremely popular free event for families and children as the car park was absolutely full on Saturday and Sunday.

The event last weekend was called Take pArt and it was excellent.  It's pretty much all free, we had to pay a small fee for our kids to use the roller skating rink, but there were events taking place right throughout the building.  There were all sorts of arts and crafts, circus skills displays, workshops (including one run by Connie Fisher off of the telly), music performances, dance exhibitions, storytelling, etc, etc, etc.  The event attracts people from far and wide and I'm sure it filled a few hotel rooms over the weekend as well as filling VC.

That sounds really good, I would have gone. But I saw it advertised nowhere  $angry$

Heads up for anyone who might be interested -  TAKE pART 6 is taking place this weekend at VC.  There's a huge list of activities on the website, mostly free but a few with nominal fees.

http://takepart.moonfruit.com/whats-on/4587617138 (http://takepart.moonfruit.com/whats-on/4587617138)
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Post by: Ian on January 06, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
Excellent offering: superb for youngsters.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2015, 12:48:24 PM
Happy Mondays - Wednesday, 9 December 2015 at 7.30pm.
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Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2015, 10:28:43 AM
Blur are playing in Llandudno on June 11th.   $good$

Venue Cymru, Llandudno - 11 June 2015
BLUR 1200x1200 Walesblur will play three select UK dates ahead of the Isle of Wight Festival and their highly anticipated return to London’s Hyde Park later this summer.

The band is enjoying the widest chart success of their career following the release of the critically acclaimed UK Number 1 album The Magic Whip, peaking at No. 1 in iTunes charts in 8 countries, in the Top 5 in an additional 20 countries and reaching #15 in the U.S.

And now blur will follow-up their two club performances of the album for fans in London and New York with a string of live dates – kicking off at legendary Glasgow venue Barrowlands on 9th June before their first ever Blackpool show at the impressive 19th century Empress Ballroom on 10th June, and finally, a return to Wales for the first time since 1997 to play Llandudno on 11th June.

The Magic Whip is also the first album to have its own official ice cream. Produced in collaboration with British ice cream makers The Licktators, ‘The Magic Whip’ is an individual tub of dairy vanilla ice cream rippled with raspberry coulis and will be in shops from June, in time for blur’s UK festival dates this summer. blur will headline the Isle of Wight Festival on Saturday 13th June and as the only artists to play Hyde Park four times, the band will return to the historic London park for a headline show on Saturday 20th June 2015 as part of Barclaycard presents British Summer Time Hyde Park. For full details visit www.bst-hydepark.com (http://www.bst-hydepark.com)

16 years since their last album as a four-piece, last week saw the release of a brand new album from blur on Parlophone, titled The Magic Whip. The recordings, which began during a five-day break in touring in Spring 2013 - at Avon Studios in Kowloon, Hong Kong - were put aside when the group finished touring and returned to their respective lives.  Last November Graham Coxon revisited the tracks and, drafting in blur’s early producer Stephen Street, he worked with the band on the material. Albarn then added lyrics and the 12 tracks of The Magic Whip are the result.

Tickets are £35 each (plus booking fee) and will be available from 10am on Friday 8th May via www.axs.com (http://www.axs.com) / www.venuecymru.co.uk (http://www.venuecymru.co.uk) / Venue Cymru Box Office - 01492 8720000
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Post by: born2run on May 06, 2015, 11:17:46 AM
Amazing. I imagine it will be possible to get tickets though $angry$

What's the best way do you think - internet, phone, or good old fashioned lining up outside?  ££$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 06, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
I wish it was a reformed Oasis, or Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds, I would be there like a shot! I never was a Blur fan!
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Post by: wrex on May 06, 2015, 12:07:33 PM
line up
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Post by: born2run on May 06, 2015, 12:16:05 PM
At what time would you start queuing? It says they go on sale at 10am
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Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2015, 05:37:49 PM
Perhaps online might be the best bet, but that other website, not the VC one?
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
Went to the first night of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat at VC last night.  Have to say it was superb in every aspect, well worth going to see. Seeing Elvis performing amid the pyramids was a bit surreal but I think it was the highlight of the show.

Daily Post Review here:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/review-joseph-amazing-technicolor-dreamcoat-9244670 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/review-joseph-amazing-technicolor-dreamcoat-9244670)
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Post by: born2run on May 13, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
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Perhaps online might be the best bet, but that other website, not the VC one?

You were absolutely right, easiest tickets I've ever got. The other website worked a charm.
VC website of course crashed at 9.58!
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
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Perhaps online might be the best bet, but that other website, not the VC one?

You were absolutely right, easiest tickets I've ever got. The other website worked a charm.
VC website of course crashed at 9.58!
Glad to hear you got the tickets. Should be a brilliant night.  $good$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 13, 2015, 09:42:03 AM
It would be a brilliant night if it was Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds playing rather than Blur! I was never a Blur fan, can you tell?  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2015, 09:45:02 AM
More than anyone else this Summer, I'm looking forward to seeing Elvis Costello in a couple of weeks.  $elvis$
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Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2015, 05:54:42 PM
Venue Cymru date for Cor Glanaethwy

Britain’s Got Talent finalists Côr Glanaethwy have announced details of a special UK tour later this year.

After wowing the judges and audiences alike at their audition and the live shows with their spine-tingling rendition of Benedictus and The Prayer, the 160-plus strong choir stormed straight to the finals where they sang Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah.

A strong favourite to win they came third in the prime-time talent show and received support from all over the country and a host of celebrities with judge David Walliams describing their performance as “completely magical.”

Celebrating their 25th anniversary milestone, Côr Glanaethwy choir will perform eight dates across the UK in September, October and November 2015.
MORE....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/venue-cymru-date-cor-glanaethwy-9473009 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/venue-cymru-date-cor-glanaethwy-9473009)
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Post by: FatAndy on June 17, 2015, 09:30:17 PM
There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).
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Post by: born2run on June 18, 2015, 08:31:46 AM
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There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).

Are you a Springsteen fan big fat Andy?
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Post by: bigbadhenry on June 18, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
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There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).

Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) never heard of them, what comes with old age.
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Post by: Fester on June 18, 2015, 12:39:19 PM
B2R, Andy has conferred the title 'Fat Andy' upon himself, he is obviously a humorous and self-deprecating chap.

It is unnecessary for you to stick the boot in and call him BIG Fat Andy.    Consider yourself chastised.  $smack$

Also... I think Nils Lofgren has been around since the dawn of time... but is certainly not a major attraction, not even in his heyday.
 
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on June 19, 2015, 08:57:22 AM
 L0L Sorry genuine mistake I amalgamated his name with bigbadhenry! What comes of not getting enough sleep.

You have my sincerest apologies - just ... FatAndy

Also you are wrong - Nils Lofgren is a major draw being known as one of if not the greatest guitar player of all time.

consider yourself chastised  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: wrex on June 27, 2015, 01:39:46 PM
Do we know who books the acts for the Arena in the Venue Cymru complex.
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Post by: FatAndy on June 28, 2015, 07:56:39 PM
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There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).

Are you a Springsteen fan big fat Andy?

I've seen Springsteen four times, twice with the E-Street Band and twice during his "solo" career back in the 90's.  The last time was in Manchester in 1999 with both Nils Lofgren and Steven Van Zandt on stage as well as Clarence Clemons and Danny Federici.  It the best concert I'll ever go to and sadly will never be repeated.
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Post by: FatAndy on June 28, 2015, 08:04:33 PM
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There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).

Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) never heard of them, what comes with old age.

Nils Lofgren has been around the music business for almost 50 years now so age is no excuse!  He was in Neil Young's band in the early 70's and has been a member of Bruce Springsteen's E-Street Band on and off for the past 30 years.  His solo career peaked in the mid-70's but he's been around long enough to know what he's doing.

Frank Turner is a former class mate of Prince William from Eton who started out as a hardcore punk performer and won a Kerrang! award in 2010.  Then he heard Springsteen's Nebraska album and reinvented himself as a folk rocker.  In 2012 he sold out Wembley Arena (12,000 tickets) so he's clearly got a decent fan base.  If you look on YouTube you'll find you can listen to every track off his Album "England Keep My Bones" which is well worth a listen, especially the short and sweet "Eulogy".
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Post by: born2run on June 29, 2015, 10:17:55 AM
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There's a few proper gigs coming up later in the year - Frank Turner (5th Nov), Nils Lofgren (6th Nov) and Happy Mondays (9th December).

Are you a Springsteen fan big fat Andy?

I've seen Springsteen four times, twice with the E-Street Band and twice during his "solo" career back in the 90's.  The last time was in Manchester in 1999 with both Nils Lofgren and Steven Van Zandt on stage as well as Clarence Clemons and Danny Federici.  It the best concert I'll ever go to and sadly will never be repeated.

He's still not bad these days  ZXZ

You missed out on the Seeger Sessions tour, that was the highlight for me, I do hope they get back together one sweet day.
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Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2015, 02:23:03 PM
We went to see Russell Watson at VC last night. He gave an excellent performance, that drew several standing ovations from the audience.  $good$
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Post by: Fester on July 05, 2015, 07:08:21 PM
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We went to see Russell Watson at VC last night. He gave an excellent performance, that drew several standing ovations from the audience.  $good$

He's a mega-star these days.

I had a couple of elderly customers today who were absolutely CERTAIN that he was in The Grand Hotel, performing last night, and he was staying there!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2015, 07:43:53 PM
It was interesting how he, just like Elvis Costello, related how he knew Llandudno well due to childhood visits.
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Post by: wrex on August 22, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Just been to the I.O.M to watch James in concert,spent a small fortune,all down to the fact i went to a concert,glad to say there was an offial of the I.O.M TOURIST OFFICAL asking question at the airport,i was glad to tell him that the island had benefitted trmendously thanks to the fact i had traveled over there to watch James,i hope you all see how filling the Arena can generate millions.
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Post by: born2run on August 24, 2015, 09:09:40 AM
Did you have floor standing tickets or did you sit down?

 _))* Z** ZXZ _))* $good$

 &shake&
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Post by: Fester on August 24, 2015, 06:24:25 PM
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Just been to the I.O.M to watch James in concert,spent a small fortune,all down to the fact i went to a concert,glad to say there was an offial of the I.O.M TOURIST OFFICAL asking question at the airport,i was glad to tell him that the island had benefitted trmendously thanks to the fact i had traveled over there to watch James,i hope you all see how filling the Arena can generate millions.

Wrex, I saw you on my Telly!   ... At the football...  $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on August 24, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
I knew i would make it on TV one day
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Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2015, 09:26:15 AM
Just booked to see Derren Brown at VC next March, should be fantastic. Also booked to see the Queen tribute concert on Oct 2nd.  $good$
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Post by: born2run on September 21, 2015, 09:07:45 AM
New theatre book came out the other day - usual rubbish in there, but the mighty BELLOWHEAD are playing a farewell show!
Why wasn't this on my radar before?  &shake& Go to book tickets today and only a handful of seats left all on the back 2 rows
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Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2015, 09:42:42 AM
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the mighty BELLOWHEAD are playing a farewell show!
Who?
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Post by: born2run on September 21, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
 &shake&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn0Ff83spQw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn0Ff83spQw)
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Post by: born2run on October 16, 2015, 04:07:01 PM
November 5th marks a momentous day in Llandudno music history.

Not only is it the very rare occasion someone is on that I want to see  :o

There are TWO people on I want to see  :o :o

One is at Venue cymru arena - The great Frank Turner

The other at the Lily - Chris Helme (former frontman with the Seahorses)

Sadly I can only see one  :'(, and I think it will have to be Mr Turner.

Tom Hingley from the Inspiral Carpets was on at the Lily last month and was brilliant (as were all the young support acts)
After all these years I think me may be getting somewhere  ££$
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Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2015, 08:46:17 AM
Booked to see Derren Brown at VC next April, should be very good.  clappinghappy
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Post by: Gwynant on November 12, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
       We went to the matinee performance this afternoon to see "The Jersey Boys". An excellent show, very well presented, and the vocal harmonies and the live 7-piece backing band were right "on the nail". The radio-controlled props,(which includes a robotic carriage which carries the drummer and his kit around the stage as required), lighting, scenery and set changes were very slick and impressive and the story of the Four Seasons group is told in four parts, one by each band member in turn which leads to a rousing finale which was very well received by a three-quarters full house. One warning, there is some bad language which is in context with a show featuring a New York background, but there is a warning notice on the ticket and it didn't seem to bother anyone.         
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Post by: Fester on November 12, 2015, 08:08:38 PM
Based on what you said Gwynant, I tried 3 times to book some seats...

It's just a shame that the VC website is such an unreliable piece of garbage.

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Post by: wrex on November 13, 2015, 07:24:53 AM
Booked Will Young for next Saturday in the Arena,sorry CCBC i did not realise it was in the Arena,then i think we have the Happy Mondays next month.I really do think the people a gig in the Arena brings in there should be more effort put into filling the Arena more often,i even think that the council run the catering themselves now so its a no brainer to us taxpayers yet whoever is responsible for filling the Arena needs some BIG help.
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Post by: born2run on November 13, 2015, 09:51:02 AM
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Booked Will Young for next Saturday in the Arena,sorry CCBC i did not realise it was in the Arena,then i think we have the Happy Mondays next month.I really do think the people a gig in the Arena brings in there should be more effort put into filling the Arena more often,i even think that the council run the catering themselves now so its a no brainer to us taxpayers yet whoever is responsible for filling the Arena needs some BIG help.

We are having our Christmas party in the arena - I will let you know how it is. I know it's costing a pretty penny so we will see what it brings.

Frank Turner was brilliant last week as was Nils Lofgren, though it was odd the way the seats were booked for Nils - LOADS of empty spaces on the floor front rows whilst the stalls were generally full, even though on the website it said ALL of the floor seats were sold out. Another balls up I think.
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Post by: Fester on November 16, 2015, 11:02:15 PM
Thanks for the recommendation Gwynant,  we went to see The Jersey Boys tonight,  it was superb.

To be fair, I was already sold on the idea because I always loved Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons music.
I had little choice, because I remember as a kid, my Dad had them blaring out of the record player morning, noon and night, and those songs were all so familiar to me.

A brilliant production tonight, a very decent meal beforehand too, in Y Review Restaurant.
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Post by: wrex on November 17, 2015, 05:22:21 PM
Well my dreams have been answered,James the best band in the world are playing the Arena next may,xmas come early,so excited.
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Post by: born2run on November 18, 2015, 10:15:51 AM
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Well my dreams have been answered,James the best band in the world are playing the Arena next may,xmas come early,so excited.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Is it all standing or will you sit down?
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Post by: wrex on November 18, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
Saw them in liverpool last year and its the only time they did not play sit down.
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Post by: Fester on November 18, 2015, 12:40:53 PM
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Saw them in liverpool last year and its the only time they did not play sit down.

How could they not play 'Sit Down'??  .... surely the audience would have lynched them?
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Post by: born2run on November 18, 2015, 04:27:01 PM
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Saw them in liverpool last year and its the only time they did not play sit down.

How could they not play 'Sit Down'??  .... surely the audience would have lynched them?

That's like your band Motorhead not playing king of clubs or whatever it is called!!

Definitely a lynching.

reminds me of this sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YNEtaHbzA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YNEtaHbzA)

 _))*
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Post by: wrex on November 21, 2015, 12:44:27 PM
Got my James tickets and Paul Heaton ,Fester you have to come and see James,fantastic live,you and your better half it will be fantastic
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Post by: Fester on December 04, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
Booked Lionel Rich Tea, or whatever his name is.
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Post by: wrex on December 08, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
Level 42 Fester a must
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 18, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
If you didn’t fancy spending £125 on a ticket for one of Jeff Lynne’s ELO concerts in April/June 2016 in an arena over in England then please note a tribute band called ELO Again is appearing at Venue Cymru Theatre on Saturday, 30 April 2016.

Tickets are £20 each but this morning I managed to take advantage of an Early Bird Special for £15 each at the theatre box office.

BTW, I think this could be the same weekend as the Extravaganza.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 10, 2016, 07:47:07 PM
The Specials come to Venue Cymru for the very first time!

Monday 31 October 2016

THE SPECIALS head out on their first UK tour in two years in October/November 2016 which sees them play Llandudno for the very first time.

35 years since the band split, they are still going strong with phenomenal live shows since they reformed and toured in 2009.

Tickets - £40 (plus £2 gig fee per ticket & £2.50 recorded delivery)

Available at venuecymru.co.uk / 01492 872000

This is an all standing gig in the arena // Under 16s must attend with an adult


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Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2016, 08:57:31 AM
It's appropriate they are playing in Llandudno since "all the clubs have been closed down".  :laugh:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 11, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
Maybe more appropriate then, DaveR, that their most famous record is Ghost Town.
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Post by: Fester on March 11, 2016, 10:54:20 PM
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Maybe more appropriate then, DaveR, that their most famous record is Ghost Town.

Hey,  look at the trouble I got into when I raised this issue last year!   :o
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Post by: born2run on March 21, 2016, 04:36:58 PM
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Maybe more appropriate then, DaveR, that their most famous record is Ghost Town.

Hey,  look at the trouble I got into when I raised this issue last year!   :o

If it's such a ghost town why is there never anywhere to park  $angry$
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Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2016, 11:17:30 AM
Get your skates on - ice rink back in Llandudno.
BACK by popular demand, Venue Cymru’s Summer Ice Rink will be coming to town this month.

The venue’s arena will be transformed into a full sized ice rink, with real ice, to offer ice skating sessions for all ages.
Daily, Venue Cymru will be offering junior sessions for children under 12-years-old from 10.30am to 11.30am.

General sessions will run between 11.30am to 1.30pm and from 2pm to 4pm.

On Friday and Saturday evenings from 6pm the rink will be host to the best party around, the Venue Cymru Ice Disco, with live entertainment and refreshments available for just £10 (up to 3 hours skate time).

All tickets include Skate hire and a limited number of Fun Skate Penguins are available for young children and beginners.

The rink will be at Venue Cymru from August 12 to August 26 (Ice Disco unavailable August 12 and 13, and the rink will be closed on Sundays). Ticket prices are Adults - £8, Children - £6, Ice Disco - £10, Family Tickets (up to four people) - £22 (family ticket not available for Ice Disco).

Sessions can be booked in advance at www.venuecymru.co.uk (http://www.venuecymru.co.uk) or by calling the Box Office on 01492 872000. ref Pioneer
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2016, 10:30:49 AM
Following on from the chat on "Everything to do with C.B."  re VC.

This post from NWPO in 2014 shows the major expense Salaries......... £1.7 million     &shake&

Re: Venue Cymru Arena
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In case anyone is interested, these links give the following:

Detailed breakdown of income & expenditure for Venue Cymru & Theatr Colwyn 2010/11, 2011/12 and 2012/13
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1bUCYhc420wdXcwX0RadGZ0SGM/edit?usp=sharing

Summary Income and Expenditure for Venue Cymru, Theatr Colwyn and the Great Orme Tram since 2001/02
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCEan1ohcdNw5JJEckJXT8hudE0z5eAxi8h50aop1Hg/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on April 06, 2017, 09:52:14 AM
Wow nothing on here since August last year - is Venue Cymru really that quiet?

Lots of hoo ha on facebook at the moment on the 1.7 million a year it loses

Thoughts?
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Post by: Fester on April 06, 2017, 01:14:59 PM
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Wow nothing on here since August last year - is Venue Cymru really that quiet?

Lots of hoo ha on facebook at the moment on the 1.7 million a year it loses

Thoughts?

There's an Elvis impersonator on, but.... not in the Arena.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2017, 12:24:27 AM
Venue Cymru, Llandudno has been given the green light for a £2.8 million project to improve the north Wales conference and meetings offer.

Work on refreshing Venue Cymru’s offer as a business events venue will begin in May 2018 with a view to work being complete by the end of the year.  Almost £1 million of EU funding has been secured for the development. The project is part of the Welsh Government’s EU funded Tourism Attractor Destination programme, led by Visit Wales.

Venue Cymru hosts in excess of 800 separate conference and events every year.

Conwy County Borough Council, owners of Venue Cymru recognised that the remodeling of key spaces within the complex was critical to ensure that Venue Cymru could evolve with the needs of this important market, and attract further business events to Wales.

A programme of reconfiguration of the current building will allow for better use of the existing space to accommodate the varied programme of shows and events; with the improved quality of the offer attracting more visitors to North Wales and Venue Cymru, helping to extend the visitor season.

Tourism Minister, Dafydd Elis-Thomas, said:
http://gov.wales/newsroom/culture-tourism-sport/2017/171129-investment-for-venue-cymruas-wales-attracts-business-events-at-global-exhibition/?lang=en (http://gov.wales/newsroom/culture-tourism-sport/2017/171129-investment-for-venue-cymruas-wales-attracts-business-events-at-global-exhibition/?lang=en)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: mondie on December 02, 2017, 05:39:40 AM
Had my first encounter with this venue yesterday when I dropped in to buy tickets for the snooker next March. (still early bird deals available if you are interested)

What a huge and confusing building it is, I assume it is various buildings all joined up or was it built like this? When I explained to them that their website wouldn't let me book tickets they just shrugged but anyway, I am not complaining, world-class snooker walking distance from my house is nothing to sneeze at :)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2017, 09:48:53 AM
I shall be joining you at the snooker for Monday - Thursday at least.

I managed to only pay £22.50 with a Black Friday deal last month.

As for Venue Cymru, it was built in three stages.

First there was the theatre but me and Mrs R have a difference of opinion on what came next.

I think it was the Arena on the site of the former Arcadia Theatre followed later by the building of the booking office, cafe and restaurant.

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Ian on December 02, 2017, 10:35:55 AM
The Aberconwy Centre opened to the west of the Arcadia theatre in 1982. The conference venue had space for over 1,000 conference attendees. It also featured squash courts, sun beds and badminton courts.

The Centre was redeveloped in 1994, and it was renamed the North Wales Theatre and Conference Centre. It hosted a 1,500-seat auditorium/theatre, as well as a 700 square metres (7,500 sq ft) conference hall with capacity for 800 seated, or 1,000 standing, people.

In July 2005 the Arcadia theatre was demolished to make way for an atrium and meeting and conference rooms adjoining with the North Wales Theatre and Conference Centre. The building was also extended to the west. After the redevelopment, the venue hosted a new 1,550 square metres (16,700 sq ft) arena, capable of hosting 1,800 seated, or 2,500 standing people, increasing the overall capacity of the venue to over 5,000 people. The western extension incorporated a café, restaurant and a box office, as well as office space.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: mondie on December 02, 2017, 11:34:55 AM
Thanks for the background, interesting and helps make sense of a cond=fusing comgloerate of buildings!

You did well to get Black Friday tickets Bri, all my online attempts failed. Looking forward to it, we bought tickets for 7pm Mon, Tues & Thursday  ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2017, 12:38:48 PM
Conwy’s Cabinet Member for Economic Development, Cllr Louise Emery added:
“We are delighted the Welsh Government has recognised the importance of this exciting project. Venue Cymru already contributes more than £33m per annum to the North Wales economy supporting hundreds of jobs. This development will help us build on this, further growing Conwy’s valuable business tourism and events offer.”


I appreciate the above, however it would be good to see VC make a profit or break even, rather than the one million plus loss per annum, especially as they quoted .........
                    *Venue Cymru hosts in excess of 800 separate conference and events every year.*






Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
mondie, I bought mine at the box office.

As a Premier Card holder, that way I also avoid the £3 admin charge.

I am there Monday evening and all day Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

A tip - take a cushion because those seats in the Arena become uncomfortable after a while.

You won’t miss me when I walk in with my cushion in a plastic bag.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 03, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
Btw, all day means it starts at 1pm.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena.......Gin Festival 2019
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
This is a bit early, but I am sure there are a few out there, who will be interested in making a note of this.

Pure Gin Delight! Enjoy a true Gin Festival, featuring 120 listed gins, plus a selection of new and local gins to enhance your experience.
Free Gin! A voucher for your first Gin & Tonic
Your own Copa Glass to take home
The Gin Society booklet
3 exclusive gin bars: world, british and fruit gins, plus cocktail bar
Tasters and Masterclasses from Distillers and industry experts

Environment friendly festival: biodegradable straws, glass and cardboard recycling.
Live entertainment
Street food and snacks to purchase separately
Festival Gin Shop

DATE AND TIME
Fri, 12 Jul 2019,
Sat, 13 Jul 2019,

SESSIONS
Friday Evening: 6pm to 10.30pm
Saturday Afternoon: 12noon to 4.30pm
Saturday Evening: 6pm to 10.30pm

TICKETS £12.50 - no hidden fees and it includes 1 G&T!
We operate a voucher system for the purchase of all drinks – vouchers are available in multiples of £5 from our voucher station. All gins are £5 including mixer and garnish. Cocktails are £10. On the day, we are happy to refund any unused vouchers.

Our festival is strictly for over 18s. www.drinkaware.co.uk (http://www.drinkaware.co.uk)

More details and FAQ   
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-gin-society-llandudno-festival-2019-tickets-52055853459?fbclid=IwAR2JZPgwbWsQhca74NoPPgKG_saGNU-lJdkYwRrBdSRHQCcC6dPz_KgQ1_U (https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-gin-society-llandudno-festival-2019-tickets-52055853459?fbclid=IwAR2JZPgwbWsQhca74NoPPgKG_saGNU-lJdkYwRrBdSRHQCcC6dPz_KgQ1_U)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Arterburn on November 15, 2018, 05:03:14 PM
It's never too early to book the dates of a Gin Festival, Steve. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Love gin! haha
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: born2run on November 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM
Wow almost a year between posts on this thread! To top it all the post is for a gin festival not even a music act. What an absolute waste of space that arena is! I would say the people who run it couldn't organise a p!ss up in a brewery but clearly they can manage a p!ss up in a supposed music arena!
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on December 03, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
Major redevelopment works are underway at Venue Cymru.

The project, costing around £3million, is set to increase the flexibility of the conference spaces at the Llandudno venue making the facilities more appropriate for holding large national and international events.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17272250.redevelopment-work-begins-on-llandudnos-venue-cymru/?ref=mr&lp=1 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17272250.redevelopment-work-begins-on-llandudnos-venue-cymru/?ref=mr&lp=1)

Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: SteveH on February 14, 2019, 11:29:55 AM
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds to play Llandudno's Venue Cymru - when and how to get tickets
They've played the Manchester Arena and the London O2, but the former Oasis songwriter and guitarist has announced he'll be bringing his 11-piece band here this year..........   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birds-15829379 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birds-15829379)
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 21, 2019, 01:08:43 PM
While Hugo has been walking in the hills and enjoying the sunshine, I have spent the last couple of days inside Venue Cymru Arena watching the snooker currently being shownt live on ITV4 until Sunday’s Final.

All four sessions were virtually sold out.

Good publicity for Llandudno and a boost for local hotels and guest houses.  $good$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: cygnusx-1 on March 22, 2019, 05:09:01 PM
Yes........I spent Tue evening there......not too bad £15.00 for over four hours play and a final frame lasting over 1 hour when both Selby and Robertson could have won on the final black,  $cool$
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2019, 05:26:27 PM
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While Hugo has been walking in the hills and enjoying the sunshine, I have spent the last couple of days inside Venue Cymru Arena watching the snooker currently being shown live on ITV4 until Sunday’s Final.
.  $good$

That must be a sign of a misspent youth Bri, but I'm pleased that you enjoyed the snooker      ;D
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Dave on March 22, 2019, 10:06:12 PM
Must be the perfect night out for insomniacs! Mind you, hopefully you don't wake up with a stiff neck from an awkward sleeping position.
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Nemesis on March 23, 2019, 08:57:06 AM
What is going on outside at the front ( other than nothing) It seems to have been dug up for weeks.???
Title: Re: Venue Cymru Arena
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2019, 09:31:45 AM
There is also an extension being built at the rear.

Some internal alterations have also been carried out