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The Local => Local News & Discussion => Topic started by: andyCYD on December 09, 2013, 10:34:41 am
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Walked along from West Shore to Deganwy at the weekend. Quite shocking the amount of damage that occurred in the storm surge. My kids said it looked like an earthquake had happened. However, does put things in perspective when you think this was very localised damage whilst other countries have had this happen on a much bigger scale.
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North Shore would have looked like that had the wind been in the other direction. Great photos, Andy. $good$
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I had a look today at the storm damage caused at Deganwy and it's a real mess and so sad to see all those memorial benches under a pile of debris.
I don't know when the repair work will get under way but in the NWWN last week it was quoting " Responsibility for repairing the sea defences at Deganwy lies with a private landowner. Conwy Council confirmed"
I hope that the landowner is not the same one who owns most of Llandudno because if that is the case the work will never get done.
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" Responsibility for repairing the sea defences at Deganwy lies with a private landowner. Conwy Council confirmed"
Correct me if I'm wrong Hugo, but weren't the sea defences at Penrhyn Bay the responsibility of the Private house holders and yet they were put in and paid for by CCBC
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You're absolutely correct Blongb. It was the property owner's responsibility and CCBC paid for it. Many years ago I was in the process of buying a plot of land on the cliff edge to build a bungalow but backed down because of the high cost of building a sea defence. Apart from that, any work I did would have done would have been futile if the adjoining property didn't do the same. Those property owners at Penrhyn Bay were very lucky not having to fork out for the sea defence that was carried out.
There was something similar going on in Craigside but I'm not sure if those residents contributed or not.
The situation in Deganwy is slightly different I think as the sea defences were on the footpath and only the garden wall of one property was affected
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I have seen sea defence work being done at Llys Helyg Drive in the past, I don't think that was done by the council and was paid for by the frontagers themselves.
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I think that you are correct Cambrian. When I walked on the shore past them recently they had a variety of sea defences. Plenty of large boulders and many of the stone filled wire baskets too.
A friend of mine lives in one of the houses and I know that he had to pay for his defences.
From memory I seem to remember JCB's and lorries working there and I think that they had to have some type of permission to go on the beach.
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Beware the double-low while Wednesday
(http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/charts/FSXX00T_60.jpg)
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It just keeps going on and on! :(
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We were down at West Shore & Deganwy for the high tide on Saturday:
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Very dramatic Dave. Good job Arriva didn't decide it was the wrong kind of water !
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It was nice to see on TV the other day that Aberystwyth has repaired all the storm damage and the work done looks very good indeed and is a credit to their Council,
It made me think about Deganwy, because I haven't been on the beach there since just after the storms, so I don't know what progress has been made so far.
In the NWWN this week it mentioned stage 2 will be undertaken soon so I must pop down there and see how it is looking now and what they did for stage 1.
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It was nice to see on TV the other day that Aberystwyth has repaired all the storm damage and the work done looks very good indeed and is a credit to their Council,
It made me think about Deganwy, because I haven't been on the beach there since just after the storms, so I don't know what progress has been made so far.
In the NWWN this week it mentioned stage 2 will be undertaken soon so I must pop down there and see how it is looking now and what they did for stage 1.
We walked past the other week, nothing whatsoever has been done. &shake&
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Meeting on Deganwy beach this Saturday morning to disscuss the size of stones etc etc,should be quitev interesting
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Meeting on Deganwy beach this Saturday morning to disscuss the size of stones etc etc,should be quitev interesting
Deganwy Coastal Works - Update
Deganwy Prom
An information meeting has been arranged by Conwy County Borough Council to explain the ongoing protection works being carried out on the Deganwy coastline.
Where: Northern (Llandudno) end of Marine Crescent, Deganwy adjacent to the flood gate.
When: 10 am Saturday 27th September 2014
Why: To explain the proposed repair and reconstruction works on the promenade, present the materials to be used and listen to residents opinions on the proposals.
The meeting will involve a site walk along the planned works where Council Engineers will explain the proposals for the reconstruction of the damaged promenade.
For further information please email erf@conwy.gov.uk quoting "Deganwy Coastal Works".
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=35541&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=35541&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Work to repair Deganwy promenade underway
A meeting held on Saturday, September 27 gave residents the opportunity to ask questions and get a more in-depth look at the reconstruction of the promenade, following damage caused by storms that hit the area last winter.
in addition, the contract for phase two of the project is set to be awarded next week, and the construction process is set to take 10 weeks to complete.
Phase two involves the reconstruction of the demolished promenade, sea wall and the reinforcement of the coastal defences to reduce the risk of further erosion during storm events.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138960/work-to-repair-deganwy-promenade-underway.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138960/work-to-repair-deganwy-promenade-underway.aspx)
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I wonder what work was done in Phase 1 then, because I was there on Thursday and it looked no different to just after the storm. Deganwy looked absolutely resplendent in the Autumn sunshine but it's a shame that the work wasn't carried out much sooner
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I see the contractors Jennings are still great with the safety issue ,fence there with signs on to keep out ,is that a girl on the wall the other side and a woman walking along footpath that is supposed to be closed :rage: _))*
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I saw a photo in this weeks Pioneer of the Victorian shelter on the Deganwy promenade and it looks really good, very impressive indeed. $good$
I just wish Llandudno had those shelters on the promenade, Mr Hiller of Mostyn Estates did promise them and Victorian style street lamps too but that seems to be many years ago. Perhaps the firm are still waiting for someone else to pick up the bill for them
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I saw a photo in this weeks Pioneer of the Victorian shelter on the Deganwy promenade and it looks really good, very impressive indeed. $good$
I just wish Llandudno had those shelters on the promenade, Mr Hiller of Mostyn Estates did promise them and Victorian style street lamps too but that seems to be many years ago. Perhaps the firm are still waiting for someone else to pick up the bill for them
I believe the Deganwy Shelter is the same design as the ones that were originally on Llandudno Promenade until the 1960s/70s. I also recall that a plan was afoot to restore them to Llandudno Prom but nothing ever seems to happened...
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-promenade-shelters-could-demolished-5325910 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-promenade-shelters-could-demolished-5325910)
Llandudno promenade shelters could be demolished and replaced
BY JUDITH PHILLIPS
06:56, 26 JUL 2013 UPDATED 08:59, 26 JUL 2013
PROMENADE shelters which have been described as concrete monstrosities could be demolished and replaced with Victorian era replicas.
The shelters on Llandudno’s North Shore were 1960s replacements for the original structures which dated from the late 19th century.
But Conwy County Council officers are recommending they should be replaced by something more in keeping with the town’s Victorian heritage.
The shelters will be built to the original 1899 designs which were uncovered by chance in a drawer in an old desk at the offices of landowners Mostyn Estates.
“Llandudno’s major assets are its heritage and Victorian character,” said the council’s tourism chief Jim Jones.
“Continuing with the image of Victorian Llandudno will realise the resort’s potential, heighten its profile and boost tourism, encouraging the town to thrive for generations to come.
“This project is aimed at enhancing the visitor experience of Llandudno, leading to an increased footfall on the promenade and in the town centre allowing for more spending in the retail outlets.”
The scheme has been enthusiastically received by landowners Mostyn Estates, Llandudno Town Council, the town’s Hospitality Association and Development Partnership.
And the town council and Mostyn Estates have both pledged to make substantial contributions to the cost of seven new shelters, with the initial cost for each estimated at around £50,000.
Mayor Gary Burchett said: “Getting rid of those concrete monstrosities and replacing them with replicas of the Victorian originals will make the North Parade look more attractive.
“We are very supportive of the scheme and will make a substantial contribution towards the costs.”
And Mostyn Estates managing director Edward Hiller said in addition to offering to make a financial contribution, the company had been able to supply the county council with the plans for the original shelters.
“We found plans dated 1899 in a desk drawer in the offices and these will be used as the template for the design of the new shelters which will mean they will look pretty authentic.
“We are prepared to put money towards the cost of the shelter and it would be good if other businesses or private individuals in the town were willing to match us pound for pound and do the same,” added tourism chief Jim Jones.
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Sorry to jump in on the Deganwy thread, but recently I contacted my local councilor, regarding the tram shelter on gloddaeth ave, and pointed out it's deteriorating state, and if rectified now, could be saved without to much expense, maybe not of great importance, but if left .........
Appendix 2: List of Listed Buildings within the Llandudno Conservation Area
Cadw Ref Number Name Listed as Locality Location Grade
25305 Shelter Llandudno On island in dual carriageway, opposite The Oval. II
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I popped along to Deganwy beach today to have a look at the Victorian style shelter that has been built to replace the one destroyed by the storms of 2014. It's a really lovely shelter and a credit to whoever built it. The views from it are outstanding but in the Autumn and Winter you wouldn't call it a shelter with the winds and horizontal rain that comes down the Menai Straits and there is no glass in it but it's still a very attractive building.
If I remember correctly the Victorian shelters in Llandudno did have toughened glass in them but the glass was always being cracked by the pebbles chucked up there in the rough weather, so perhaps it's a better idea at Deganwy to have no glass in them.