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Title: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
Everything to do with Rhos On Sea.

I see that the old Place Settings shop on Colwyn Avenue (once a tiny branch of Lloyds Bank, of course) is being refurbished and will shortly be opening as a Hairdressers.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on October 22, 2010, 05:06:38 AM
Is it me or have all the previous postings from this thread disappeared?  :o
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on October 22, 2010, 08:23:48 AM
It's probably one or the other - I reckon it's that Ian fellow again!     ¢¢##
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2010, 08:28:26 AM
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Is it me or have all the previous postings from this thread disappeared?  :o
No, this is a new thread. You're either thinking of the thread in 'Times Past' to do with Rhos:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=57.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=57.0)
...or the thread on one of the old forums.
 :)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2010, 09:14:56 AM
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I reckon it's that Ian fellow again!


 >:( Z@@
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on October 23, 2010, 04:33:33 AM
You're right Dave, the other thread is in Times Past. It was me after all.  ))*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 06, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
I see the model shop next to the newsagents has closed now and the shop is 'to let'

Rhos on Sea - Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rhos+on+Sea&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.157147,33.706055&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rhos-on-Sea,+Colwyn+Bay,+Conwy,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.309109,-3.739026&spn=0,0.004115&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.309071,-3.739271&panoid=tOekwhzA4rMFFanb72EI4Q&cbp=12,31.02,,0,6.29)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2010, 09:26:37 PM
What a shame. I believe it and the newsagents are run by the same people.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 31, 2010, 06:08:14 PM
this story was in this week's Pioneer, I am amazed at this going on :o

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/97176/cctv-bid-to-cut-rhos-crime.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/97176/cctv-bid-to-cut-rhos-crime.aspx)

PLANS to combat robberies and vandalism at a Rhos on Sea crime hot spot could include installing a CCTV camera.

It is hoped to site a  surveillance device at the junction of Llandudno Road and Dinerth Road by the Spar store and petrol station in a bid to dissuade antisocial behaviour and criminal attacks.

The initiative was launched by Cllr Roger Parry following a turbulent year for the area including vandalism to a church yard, a shop-keeper attacked outside his own premises, residential break-ins and incidents of alcohol abuse and litter.

A robbery at knife-point at the Spar in November was also a catalyst for the proposal, as it was the second attack of this type in two years.

Talking after the latest robbery, Cllr Phil Edwards said: “Instances like this are absolutely out of character for this area and it’s important they remain out of character.”

Cllr Parry confirmed the motion for a CCTV camera have been supported by a number of councillors as well as North Wales Police.

But although it would be funded and installed by the local authority, the success of the proposal would be dependent on the willingness of local businesses to pay the estimated £1,000 annual maintenance costs.

He said: “From every aspect, it is widely agreed the location would greatly benefit from a permanent surveillance camera linked to an operations baser allowing twenty four hour cover of the area.
“Once up and running it will deter criminal activity to make the area safer for all concerned. But private sector cooperation is vital.”

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on December 31, 2010, 08:21:24 PM
They're perhaps overreacting to a very small number of incidents. Why doesnt the Spar Garage pay for decent CCTV all round their premises, as that  is the hub of the problems.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 14, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
This was the Chemist in Rhos that someone drove a car into (by mistake!) the other day:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 14, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
 ))*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2011, 04:13:10 PM
At the moment one digger and one dump truck are stuck in the mud by the rocks in Rhos on Sea, I'll put some pics up later
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 18, 2011, 05:09:10 PM
They must still be stuck there because I can still see the two flashing orange lights down at Rhos. There are bright lights nearby so a rescue operation must be going on but it's too dark to tell, good job the tide is out at present.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
these are the earlier pics, there is now an ITV Local News van there, various press photographers and a good few people watching

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/P1180007.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/P1180005.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/P1180004.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/P1180010.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
more pics

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/DSCF1213.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/DSCF1215.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/DSCF1218.jpg)

and this nice old Matador turned up (think its the one that tows the old tram)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/DSCF1219.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2011, 05:55:36 PM
I hope Jennings Plant Hire's insurance is up to date, because there is several hundred thousands pounds worth of machinery there. It's now dark, the tide's starting to come in and they are no nearer freeing them. Tide is in at 10pm but they only have until about 8pm until the basin of the harbour starts filling with water. There is about 50 people watching from the Prom.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2011, 06:10:41 PM
Apparently the sea must be coming in faster than anticipated, all the rescue equipment has just left the site and the digger and dumper truck have been abandoned to the sea....
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2011, 06:16:51 PM
its very sad to see these machines stuck like this but I thoght it very unlikely that they could tbe rescued must be at least £300,000 worth there!  I can't understand why they went on that mud? Lets hope they can at least seal the fuel tanks!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2011, 06:21:21 PM
I was just thinking to myself how it was madness for them to even attempt crossing that mud in the harbour basin - it is many feet deep
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2011, 06:48:57 PM
The last time they had this much excitement in Rhos was when the Marga ran aground in 1991:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: TheMedz on January 18, 2011, 06:57:21 PM
Great photos all round.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on January 18, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
lots of bright lights showing on the machines. Its now 19.25 so I guess if they havent moved the tackle, the lights will be going out any time now!!!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2011, 07:33:40 PM
Both the digger and truck are now submerged!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: jemima on January 18, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
"and this nice old Matador turned up (think its the one that tows the old tram)"

Sorry,but it is not the one that tows the tram - that one is painted pale blue
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2011, 08:05:18 PM
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The last time they had this much excitement in Rhos was when the Marga ran aground in 1991:

 :o that must have taken some moving!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on January 19, 2011, 08:42:21 AM
I have some pics of the process - but can't find them right now.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12225752 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12225752)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 19, 2011, 03:36:13 PM
I can see the rescue effort going on at Rhos while I am typing this but I would be very surprised if they recover both vehicles today.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2011, 05:40:51 PM
The truck has now been recovered (after being submerged under two tides) but the digger is still firmly stuck.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on January 19, 2011, 06:34:22 PM
It's going to be tricky, getting a tracked vehicle out.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2011, 06:44:57 PM
the digger's still stuck
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1229.jpg)

and they've recovered the truck, I was told this was brand new :o
 (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1233.jpg)

a touch muddy!
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1245.jpg)

Two Matadors today, still earning a living, great vehicles!
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1244.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on January 19, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
All they need to get the Case Excavator free is a big Mobile Crane to lift whilst they hose underneath to release the suction.   It's not the first time this sort of thing has happened.

I can't understand why they didn't use a low ground pressure Excavator for the job.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on January 19, 2011, 07:41:58 PM
This is most depressing----I've been in transport for a lot of my life and two of the owners involved today (Buckleys crane hire and Jennings) I know personally. Buckleys, of course, were only involved in the rescue. However, on a brighter side, the Rhos thread has never got going in the new forum but yesterday it leaped  from Page 1 to 3!!! P.S. In case anyone is interested, Dewi Jones, the boss of Jennings is Towyn's golden boy, started out in a shed in his back garden around 35 years ago and is definately the most successful business man out of the village.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
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All they need to get the Case Excavator free is a big Mobile Crane to lift whilst they hose underneath to release the suction.   It's not the first time this sort of thing has happened.

I can't understand why they didn't use a low ground pressure Excavator for the job.

Ah, but what would you put the big mobile crane on? its just mud all around
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on January 19, 2011, 08:12:43 PM
Nearest available point to give adequate support.  Size of crane would be determined by reach needed and load to be lifted.  The Excavator's weight could be reduced by some dismantling e.g. the arm and bucket assembly.

I haven't seen the actual position of the thing that is stuck but having had much experience of erecting and dismantling using mobile cranes I have never seen a situation that has proved impossible.  Mobile cranes of 500 ton capacity are available - at a cost!

This is a Liebherr 500 ton Mobile - the company I worked for.  Owned by Ainscough Crane Hire.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2011, 08:56:29 PM
Those AEC Matadors must date back to 1939 - I seem to recall the lady from Buckleys saying they were ex-army from WWII:
http://www.aecmilitant.co.uk/index2.html (http://www.aecmilitant.co.uk/index2.html)

She has a Flickr site, btw:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gey659/sets/72157603568218336/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gey659/sets/72157603568218336/)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2011, 10:11:20 PM
The driver said one was 1942 and the other 1944 (hopefully I've remembered it correctly!)
I remember making model Matadors from Airfix kits  D)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on January 20, 2011, 08:05:36 AM
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Ah, but what would you put the big mobile crane on? its just mud all around

I suppose if all else failed they could use a floating crane. Or might that have too great a draft?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 08:08:37 AM
I think they're going to carry on trying to pull it out - you can't get a crane close enough, as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 20, 2011, 08:37:49 AM
I can see the crane partly covered by the sea which I think must be on its way out. It'll be a while before they can start the rescue again today.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 08:43:37 AM
The BBC website has got it wrong again:

"Two heavy plant vehicles have been released from mud on the beach at Rhos on Sea in Conwy.

The owners of the dumper truck and a tracked earth-mover had to wait until Wednesday afternoon to recover them."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12225752 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12225752)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2011, 08:44:44 AM
The Svanen floating catamaran crane was used during the last windfarm construction, that would be way too large.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on January 20, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
When I visited this afternoon it looked as theough they were taking the Excavator apart piece by piece.  I did not realise that it was over by the breakwater - definitely not a crane job from on shore!   Dismantling is probably the only option.   It has certainly drawn a good crowd of sightseers.     Z**
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 05:47:02 PM
The whole thing is now approaching farce proportions. There had to be nearly 30 men working on it today, with vehicles parked all over the prom. There are at least 4 excavators working around the stranded digger, with floodlights on masts illuminating the situation. How much is all this costing and who is paying?

EDIT: Even better, the whole area is now enveloped in thick fog!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 20, 2011, 06:37:40 PM
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When I visited this afternoon it looked as theough they were taking the Excavator apart piece by piece.  I did not realise that it was over by the breakwater - definitely not a crane job from on shore!   Dismantling is probably the only option.   It has certainly drawn a good crowd of sightseers.     Z**

I was told that they were trying to start the engine, I did see some blue smoke around an hour or so after I took these pics, but had the wrong camera with me then! 

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1274.jpg)

sending in the BIG digger!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1271.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Just been down to take a few pics, it's like a scene from Close Encounters:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 20, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
I noticed the cafe at Rhos Point being boarded up this afternoon!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1276.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 06:41:46 PM
Yes, always easier for CCBC to board it up and leave it, rather than actually let it to someone who can reopen it!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
They never managed to rescue this digger at Penrhyn Bay:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/24674926_65c0b4e1dd_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/24674926/)
Rest In Pieces (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/24674926/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 20, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
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They never managed to rescue this digger at Penrhyn Bay:

I've not seen that, yet its on my doorstep, is it still there?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
Should be still there. Basically, you take the footpath from Penrhyn Beach East down onto the beach, turn left and keep walking until you find it, it's a couple of hundred feet along the beach..

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2011, 09:48:24 PM
It amused me that the radio news was still reporting that the vehicles had been 'rescued'. All was calm as we passed at high tide this morning, but the prom was littered with huge pieces of equipment.A bloke in a large black car drew up on the double yellow lines and gazed out to the site of the sunken digger causing a traffic build up, then set off again. Wonder if he was counting the costs?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 21, 2011, 08:07:01 AM
The digger was removed in the early hours of this morning, they started work at about 2 am to remove it.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2011, 08:41:49 AM
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/multimedia/news/video/2011/01/19/digger-and-dumper-truck-stuck-in-mud-55578-28017622/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/multimedia/news/video/2011/01/19/digger-and-dumper-truck-stuck-in-mud-55578-28017622/)

My neighbour found this .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 21, 2011, 05:10:53 PM
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Should be still there. Basically, you take the footpath from Penrhyn Beach East down onto the beach, turn left and keep walking until you find it, it's a couple of hundred feet along the beach..



Found it  D)  its an International Drott, must be quite old!

 (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5006/5375187059_2fa203b722.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375187059/)
DSCF1287 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375187059/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/5375799348_8a7c224fa9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375799348/)
DSCF1290 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375799348/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr



(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5163/5375795044_e6e3a06078.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375795044/)
DSCF1289 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5375795044/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on January 21, 2011, 05:16:32 PM
A slightly more presentable version!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 21, 2011, 07:33:53 PM
Nice pics, Andy.  :)

The old Barnabys Cafe in Colwyn Crescent has reopened as Sally's Coffee House.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 29, 2011, 09:28:09 PM
yesterday we found ourselves in the churchyard here in the church of St Trillo
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/5399143074_8ab638b356.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5399143074/)
P1280030 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5399143074/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr

Its a fascinating place with these old angels
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5398548219_41837fc2a0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5398548219/)
P1280041 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5398548219/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr

But then we found this damage, such a shame to see  :(

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5398544551_5493246f2d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5398544551/)
P1280035 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56944437@N05/5398544551/#) by AJones56 (http://www.flickr.com/people/56944437@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2011, 09:34:38 PM
Hmmm...angels.

That damage was done last year, sadly. Morons.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2011, 01:09:41 PM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=13059183&page=gr (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=13059183&page=gr)

Next time you go-- have a look for this grave !
Title: Body on beach at Rhos-on-Sea
Post by: Welshmaid on February 15, 2011, 05:38:36 PM
According to reports, the body of a woman was found on the beach at Rhos-on-Sea this morning.  The body of another woman was found near Anglesey.
Title: Re: Body on beach at Rhos-on-Sea
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2011, 06:25:03 PM
Two women's bodies have been discovered in separate incidents in north west Wales, one on the beach at Rhos on Sea, and the other in the sea off Anglesey.

North Police are trying to identify the woman whose body was found at Rhos-on-Sea in Conwy county.

A member of the public made the find, which is not being treated as suspicious, opposite the Cayley embankment.

The other body was retrieved from the sea by Moelfre lifeboat.

It was spotted by a passing vessel.

The coroner has been informed in both cases. No more details have been made available.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12464338 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12464338)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: dwsi on February 15, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
I went past just after the ambulance and coastguard turned up, but curiously no police.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
Update on body found on beach

Police have named the woman whose body was found on a beach in Conwy as Jane Kelly, 43, from Old Colwyn.

Detective Sergeant Craig Adshead said that Ms Kelly was discovered by a member of the public on Tuesday near the Cayley embankment at Rhos-on-Sea.

The North east Wales deputy coroner John Gittins has opened and adjourned a hearing into the death.

DS Adshead said: "Further tests are due to be carried out to determine the cause of Ms Kelly's death but there does not appear to be any suspicious circumstances.

"We are also asking for anyone who was on the sea front in the Rhos On Sea to Old Colwyn area during the early hours of Tuesday 15th February and saw a woman wearing black boots, blue jeans and an orange vest type top to contact the Coroner's Officer on 01745 588607."

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on February 25, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
Yesterday morning, near Rhos point there were a dozen or so men, clad in muddied orange suits stacking sacks and gathering some type of shell fish. Anyone satisfy my curiosity? What do they gather there?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: brumbob on February 25, 2011, 03:39:02 PM
mussels
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on February 25, 2011, 08:59:48 PM
Mmmmm  Mussels.

I hope they have grown a bit larger this year... $dins$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on February 28, 2011, 05:06:17 PM
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mussels

Maybe under their muddied orange suits.  :-*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Barbiroli on February 28, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
I think you will find that they are collecting winkles
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on February 28, 2011, 06:37:20 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2011, 08:35:01 AM
The empty shop opposite Fortes (once Flair of Rhos On Sea) is to become the Sunset Club, a retailer of surf and snow wear. They presently have a shop at 5 High Street, Conwy.

http://www.sunsetclub.co.uk/ (http://www.sunsetclub.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on March 09, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
 *&( *&( *&(   Given the re-development of Colwyn Bay seafront, with all the heightened emphasis on sea-based sports activity, this might be a very clever move!   *&( *&( *&(
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Post by: Trojan on March 10, 2011, 03:00:54 AM
Would one actually be able to surf off Rhos-on-Sea?  ?{}?
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Post by: DaveR on March 10, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
Saw this nice old Silver Star coach parked on the Prom in Rhos a few days ago. Reg was LPT 328.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 10, 2011, 07:56:57 PM
Wow, looks stunning

The enquiry is complete 

 The vehicle details for LPT 328 are: 

Date of Liability  01 09 2011 
Date of First Registration  19 05 1950 
Year of Manufacture  1950 
Cylinder Capacity (cc)  11301CC 
CO2 Emissions  Not Available 
Fuel Type  Heavy Oil 
Export Marker  Not Applicable 
Vehicle Status  Licence Not Due 
Vehicle Colour  GREEN 
Vehicle Type Approval   

Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle   
6 Months Rate  £121.00 
12 Months Rate  £220.00 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on March 11, 2011, 12:59:14 AM
You didn't list the make of vehicle Merddyn.  :-[

It's a Burlingham bodied AEC Regal III that has been restored and returned to service by Silver Star of Caernarfon. It runs day and half-day tours in the area.

The front engined AEC Regal was first produced in 1929 and was the basis for many buses and coaches both in and outside of London. In London, especially, it was the basis of many Greenline coaches built in the 1930s. The Mark IV AEC Regal introduced in 1950 broke the mould by having its engine under the floor. The most celebrated Regals are the London Transport RF class AEC Regal IVs built between 1951 and 1953, with Metro-Cammell bodywork that was years ahead of its time.   There are probably more of these vehicles in preservation today than of any other type of bus.

Photo credit Derek Thompson
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 07:00:31 AM
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You didn't list the make of vehicle Merddyn.  :-[


good point, but you've covered it nicely  :)
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Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 07:19:22 AM
looks fantastic  :)
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Post by: Michael on March 11, 2011, 05:21:06 PM
Not only looks. When the engine is running it sounds fantastic too.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 18, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
We had one of our regular walks to Rhos on Sea this afternoon and you could clearly see the wreck of the Rhosneigr, lower tides to come over the next few days!
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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
Captured it well, Andy.  :)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 18, 2011, 09:22:58 PM
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Captured it well, Andy.  :)

Thanks  :)   more here       http://www.byegones.co.uk/rhosneigr_large.html (http://www.byegones.co.uk/rhosneigr_large.html)

I'd not heard about the Mosquito aircraft before!
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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2011, 09:32:15 PM
Interesting website. Why they have a photo of Llandudno Pier purporting to be Rhos though, i don't now?  :o 8)
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Post by: Fester on March 18, 2011, 11:09:17 PM
Indeed ... and they are still persisting with the ERRONEOUS myth that Rhos Pier was a second-hand one bought from Douglas, Isle of Man.

Rubbish website... it should be shut down!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on March 20, 2011, 12:22:27 AM
Fester, I've always understood that Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.    What makes you so sure that this is untrue/ Mike
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Post by: brumbob on March 20, 2011, 12:36:45 AM
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I think it was designed to jumpstart the growth of Rhos as a tourist area, with its main purpose being to allow steamers to dock rather than as a pleasure pier. I originally believed it had been bought from the isle of Man but...

It was originally thought that this pier was originally built at Douglas in the Isle of Man and later bought by a group of North Wales businessmen in 1895/6, dismantled and re-erected at Rhos-on-Sea.

However, in the book 'Piers of Wales' written by Martin Easdown and Darlah Thomas, it has been conclusively proved that the Douglas Iron Pier never went to Rhos-on-Sea, Colwyn Bay. The Douglas pier was closed in 1891 and acquired by the the council who offered it for scrap as they wanted to widen the promenade at the foot of Broadway.

A number of resorts (such as Penarth and Abergele) had a look at the pier with a view to re-erecting it at their resorts (it was up for sale at £1,300) but that failed to happen. In the early part of 1894 demolition of the pier began by a Manchester scrap metal merchant, which was completed by May.

So the pier was never re-erected at Rhos. This wrong information came about because one author claimed it happened in a book published in 1952 and everyone took his word for it.

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Post by: Fester on March 20, 2011, 10:29:24 AM
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Fester, I've always understood that Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.    What makes you so sure that this is untrue/ Mike

Bob is correct.
At the very end of the book 'Piers of Wales' it actually shows a picture of  the Isle of Man Pier, and it is entirely different in its construction to Rhos.
It was a myth, borne out of letters to the Newspaper in the 1890's, which pointed that it might be a good idea to buy the Douglas Pier, as it was cheap and up for sale.

Nope, you got a brand spanking new pier for your money .... and then didn't look after it!



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Post by: brumbob on March 21, 2011, 07:05:22 PM
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Bob is correct.
It was Dave that said it, I just quoted  8)


http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/towns/douglas/ipier.htm (http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/towns/douglas/ipier.htm)

Ross-on-Sea pier was 500ft longer than the 1000ft Isle of Man Douglas pier
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on March 21, 2011, 08:35:18 PM
Well, thats put me in my place. Thats two "facts" which have been stuck in my mind for seventy years being shown up as being false. One--Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.  Two---I was going to be a millionaire before I was 80.  Mike   P.S. Must run and buy another dozen lottery tickets!!
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Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2011, 08:36:46 PM
I'd always believed that too until the other facts came to light. Just goes to show how easy it is for a falsehood to become an accepted fact!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 21, 2011, 08:41:22 PM
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Ross-on-Sea pier was 500ft longer than the 1000ft Isle of Man Douglas pier

So does that mean that two thirds of the Rhos on Sea pier came from the Isle of Man? where did the other third come from then?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 09:57:07 PM
The old Flair of Rhos On Sea shop (on the corner opposite Fortes) is nearly ready to reopen at the Sunset Club surf shop:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Went through Rhos earlier and saw that they are dumping many tons of sand upon the beach by the breakwater again - it seems to be a yearly occurrence and the level of the beach just keeps on rising...
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2011, 05:16:41 PM
I can see two vehicles on the sand and they appear to be leveling the sand out. Where has the sand come from I wonder ?{}? ?{}?     perhaps it's West Shore's sand?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2011, 04:52:15 PM
The "new sandy beach" at Rhos was packed with people today making the most of the afternoon sunshine.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on May 21, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
Whilst walking by Aberhod earlier, I noticed that another load of flowerbeds had been grassed over by CCBC. They really seemed determined to cut back on anything that might attract people to the area.   $angry$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Waffagolf on June 03, 2011, 10:53:16 PM
Just found this old picture of flooding in Rhos-on-Sea by the Cayley. Not sure about the year it was taken.

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Post by: Waffagolf on June 03, 2011, 10:55:50 PM
Taken when they began building the Rhos-on-Sea breakwater

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Post by: Waffagolf on June 03, 2011, 10:57:24 PM
This was quite a sight in it's day. Dropping off the stones on the beach.

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Post by: DaveR on June 04, 2011, 08:47:40 AM
Great photos, Waffagolf. Please keep them coming if you find any more.  :)
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 04, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
This picture was taken by my Dad. It's a sight rarely seen in Rhos-on-Sea. As for the year it was taken. Well, it was a new car, so whatever year registrations ended in Y, that was the year.

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Post by: Waffagolf on June 04, 2011, 01:07:59 PM
Shows what a cold spot Rhos-on-sea can be

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Post by: Waffagolf on June 04, 2011, 01:11:20 PM
Try as I may, I can't find out which of my family members are in this wonderful car. Great car in the background too. The shape of the lampost looks great. No shelters on the prom there these days.
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Post by: hollins on June 04, 2011, 01:21:51 PM
Thanks for sharing these photos. They are fascinating!
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 04, 2011, 01:28:36 PM
This is a Hillman (Sceptre I think) car that came off the road on the bend by Rhos Point Cafe. So many cars ended up in the same spot, some must have only just missed the building itself. Thank goodness it doesn't happen these days. I'm sure I have more pictures of other cars in the same location. Rhos Point bend was well known for such accidents.
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Post by: Trojan on June 04, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
 $cool$ The above car looks like a Sunbeam Rapier.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Waffagolf on June 04, 2011, 03:47:34 PM
I stand corrected. Rightly so. Well done.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: white rabbit on June 04, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
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Just found this old picture of flooding in Rhos-on-Sea by the Cayley. Not sure about the year it was taken.


I think it was the 1950's
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Post by: Trojan on June 04, 2011, 08:46:55 PM
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Well, it was a new car, so whatever year registrations ended in Y, that was the year.

August 1982 to July 1983.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 05, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
Waffagof photo of the flood by the Cayley. This happened on a fairly regular basis, every time there was a N.E. wind with a high tide. The Cayley had sandbags at the ready most of the time. But this photo shows a mega flood, which makes me think it was around 1944. That was around the time when the sea joined up around the Cricket club and made Abbey Road area an island
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: dwsi on June 05, 2011, 10:13:27 PM
There was some flood photos on the Rhos on Sea thread
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=57.msg1644#msg1644 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=57.msg1644#msg1644)

and some interesting videos
http://wn.com/rhos-on-sea (http://wn.com/rhos-on-sea)
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Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 11:00:50 PM
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and some interesting videos
http://wn.com/rhos-on-sea (http://wn.com/rhos-on-sea)
Some of those videos are hilarious. One or two of them feature a guy walking around Rhos and Colwyn Bay complaining about 'OAP flats'. Unfortunately for him, most of the buildings he's talking about are flats for people of all ages, not just 'OAPs'. And what does he have against older people anyway  - does he expect them to live in cardboard boxes on the pavement?  What a plonker! :D
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Post by: Fester on June 05, 2011, 11:32:31 PM
Funnneee...Feeling your age are we Dave?  After your birthday last week..!   L0L
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 05, 2011, 11:32:41 PM
I just went to have a look at some videos on the site mentioned, when I saw some titled "The last few days of St Mary's College", and I escaped the site immediately. Funny how things take you.

St Mary's College was truly, truly an awful place to be, some of the terrible things that went on there don't bear thinking about. Thank God it's gone completely, although I wish the old school houses of Aquinas (where I was), Davies and Campion were also demolished. Good to see Albini House in Llandudno Junction has gone. One can only wish that memories could be wiped out like a building.

Certain people who used to teach there have been brought to justice for what they did to boys, but very little has ever been in this areas papers. Religion has a great deal to answer for. I rejoyced when the buildings were demolished. There was a great deal more to the school closing down than has ever been released into the public domain.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Waffagolf on June 05, 2011, 11:41:38 PM
Archives are a wonderful thing. Here are some pictures to do with an electrical shop in Rhos Road, Rhos-On-Sea. Great vans. First one is the oldest picture in existance of a Turner's Radio van complete with public address speakers on top...WOW! John (Jack) Turner can be seen to the left of the picture in the glasses.
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 05, 2011, 11:43:16 PM
Here's another picture with both Directors in it. John (Jack) Turner and John Roberts.
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 05, 2011, 11:44:19 PM
And one with John (Jack) Turner by Llandudno Hospital.
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Post by: Trojan on June 06, 2011, 04:53:42 AM
Do you have any photos of the Turners Electrical shop that was in Rhos Road?
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Post by: Yorkie on June 06, 2011, 07:31:37 AM
I think they are still using the same speakers!    L0L
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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 08:07:40 AM
Fantastic photos, Waffagolf.  $good$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 06, 2011, 09:10:46 AM
Pardon me for sort of hijacking the thread but there is a connection.

Me and the missus went to watch the finish of the Three Castles Car Rally late on Saturday afternoon after first visiting the successful Deganwy Prom Day.

After sitting on the prom for half an hour watching all these cars returning, we both agreed the event was missing something and initially could not work out what it needed.

Eventually, the answer came to us.

It needed Ian Turner. 

When will the organisers of these events begin to realise what Ian can bring to their events?

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Post by: suepp on June 06, 2011, 09:27:34 AM
On Saturday we went for a picnic up to Llyn Brenig, we decided to approach from the Nantglyn end, thinking it would be a nice scenic drive with little traffic. Coming the other way  just at that time was the Three Castles Race and we were treated to the sight of all those fantastic vehicles passing us, we had to pull into every passing place,  it was like going back in time! People were sat outside their homes on chairs waving them through. All the drivers were driving courteously and waving as they passed. $walesflag$
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 06, 2011, 10:18:04 AM
In response  to Trojans question, I do have several pictures of Turner's Radio @ 30 Rhos Road, but the files are to big to go on here. I'll see what I can do.
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 06, 2011, 10:30:52 AM
I'm sure Ian would be chuffed at the comments from Bri. I think he's been providing commentary at the Aberconwy Vintage Vehicle Rally for about 30 years or so. That's a nice rally with vehicles built no later than 1972, with the rally taking place each year on the first Sunday in July. It is wonderful that people lovingly keeps such vehicles roadworthy for us all to see and admire.
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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
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In response  to Trojans question, I do have several pictures of Turner's Radio @ 30 Rhos Road, but the files are to big to go on here. I'll see what I can do.
Feel free to email them (and any others) to admin @ threetownsforum.co.uk and I will resize them and stick them on here.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 06, 2011, 10:38:54 AM
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I'm sure Ian would be chuffed at the comments from Bri. I think he's been providing commentary at the Aberconwy Vintage Vehicle Rally for about 30 years or so. That's a nice rally with vehicles built no later than 1972, with the rally taking place each year on the first Sunday in July. It is wonderful that people lovingly keeps such vehicles roadworthy for us all to see and admire.

I've not heard of this, is there time to enter my Spitfire ?(assuming it doesn't clash with another event!)
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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
Photos of Turners Electrical in Rhos On Sea, kindly provided by Waffagolf:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 06, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
These pictures from Waffagolf are fantastic $good$ I love old pics like this, I've always liked 'then and now' pictures, fascinating!
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Post by: suepp on June 06, 2011, 11:13:47 AM
great photos, love the way they take up the whole pavement with Deckchairs!
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 06, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
Merddin will be interested in seeing the marques attending the Conwy Valley Vehicle Rally. The cars from as far back as 1921 (some earlier) assemble at Gwydyr Park in Llanrwst from 09:00 and assemble on Llandudno prom from 14:15pm for the prize giving on the first Sunday in July.
 
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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
I shall be present with my camera to photograph them.
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 06, 2011, 11:46:39 AM
Here's a few more vehicles that could be there on the day. They are members of the Automobile Club of North Wales.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 06, 2011, 12:24:50 PM
What was interesting about the Three Castles Rally was that from the entry list, I only noticed one entry was from Wales and that was from Wrexham.

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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 01:03:27 PM
Courtesy of Waffagolf, and from March 1962, this NWWN Clipping shows members of the Bay of Colwyn Sailing Club:

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 06, 2011, 01:54:46 PM
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What was interesting about the Three Castles Rally was that from the entry list, I only noticed one entry was from Wales and that was from Wrexham.



The trouble is it costs a fortune to enter, over £2000  :o :o  I'd love to enter our Spitfire but  I'm not paying anything approaching that!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 06, 2011, 04:54:56 PM
£2000 to enter and they cannot afford to employ the services and experience of Ian Turner as their compere.  :o

What on earth is the world coming to.  _))*

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Post by: Yorkie on June 06, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
So much for the Three Castles Rally - what about a Three Towns Rally?    $walesflag$
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 06, 2011, 05:31:31 PM
How about this for an idea in relation to local cars and helping a good cause.

There are a great deal of Prestige, Classic, Vintage & Veteran vehicles in this area. I believe there is even a real Formula 1 car in Llandudno. How about having a display of all such cars, but don't link them neccessarily with any car club, on say, Llandudno Promenade on a Saturday. There could be Millions of pounds worth all lined up in the sunshine.

In the afternoon, possibly in either The Imperial or St Geoege's Hotel, there could be an auction of seats in each vehicle, which will take part in a rally on the Sunday, starting and finishing on the prom. People could bid to sit in the passenger seat, or Dickie seat, or maybe even get to drive their dream motor car on the rally. I'm sure there are many people who would pay several hundred pounds to ride in a ltd edition Ferari or Veteran Rolls Royce. On the Saturday night there could be a gala dinner for car owners etc. in one of the hotels with an auction of, well, whatever really.

On both days a collection could be made on the prom, with proceeds being split between St David's Hospice & Ty Gobaith Children's Respite Hospice. There's no reason why £30k plus couldn't be raised in all.

There's loads of people with magnificent cars from all eras in our area that I'm sure would help. Local garages could sponsor the event, have stands on the prom (I know it's all weather permitting, but if you don't try). Imagine a stream of magnificent cars rallying through all three towns nose to tail, what a sight. How about it's called "The Three Towns Hospice Car Rally". Something like that???
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Post by: Trojan on June 07, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
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On the Saturday night there could be a gala dinner for car owners etc. in one of the hotels with an auction of, well, whatever really.

Maybe a disco afterwards......Ian Turner could be the DJ.  :)
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Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
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How about this for an idea in relation to local cars and helping a good cause.

There are a great deal of Prestige, Classic, Vintage & Veteran vehicles in this area. I believe there is even a real Formula 1 car in Llandudno. How about having a display of all such cars, but don't link them neccessarily with any car club, on say, Llandudno Promenade on a Saturday. There could be Millions of pounds worth all lined up in the sunshine.

In the afternoon, possibly in either The Imperial or St Geoege's Hotel, there could be an auction of seats in each vehicle, which will take part in a rally on the Sunday, starting and finishing on the prom. People could bid to sit in the passenger seat, or Dickie seat, or maybe even get to drive their dream motor car on the rally. I'm sure there are many people who would pay several hundred pounds to ride in a ltd edition Ferari or Veteran Rolls Royce. On the Saturday night there could be a gala dinner for car owners etc. in one of the hotels with an auction of, well, whatever really.

On both days a collection could be made on the prom, with proceeds being split between St David's Hospice & Ty Gobaith Children's Respite Hospice. There's no reason why £30k plus couldn't be raised in all.

There's loads of people with magnificent cars from all eras in our area that I'm sure would help. Local garages could sponsor the event, have stands on the prom (I know it's all weather permitting, but if you don't try). Imagine a stream of magnificent cars rallying through all three towns nose to tail, what a sight. How about it's called "The Three Towns Hospice Car Rally". Something like that???

I would be willing to give a hand with this.
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Post by: Michael on June 07, 2011, 09:08:08 PM
Going back at least 20 posts (I wonder when Rhos last had 20 posts in a day) to Waffagolfs post about St Mars College. Was this in Abbey Road about half way along on the right going towards Penrhyn Bay?  If so, I was a pupil there when it was titled Rhos Preparatey School, around 1939/40. My memories of it were not too happy, I do remembera teacher making fun of me before the class because I couldnt pronounce "R" correctly and also had a slight lisp. I had to say "Ragged Robins running aRound RuRal Races" in front of the class. Not nice. I grew out of it without any mental scars, I think. And also "Thirty Thousand thrushes" etc etc
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Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 09:20:28 PM
That's the one, Mike. Now a small housing estate called The Cloisters.
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Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
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Whilst walking by Aberhod earlier, I noticed that another load of flowerbeds had been grassed over by CCBC. They really seemed determined to cut back on anything that might attract people to the area.   $angry$
Weekly News have just caught up with this story, several weeks later:
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/09/council-grass-over-rhos-on-sea-flowers-55243-28845179/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/09/council-grass-over-rhos-on-sea-flowers-55243-28845179/)

HOTELIERS are furious flower beds have been grassed over in Rhos-on-Sea. Conwy’s parks department grassed over the attractive flower beds on the Cayley Embankment in a cost-cutting measure which hotel owners say could damage tourism. The beds opposite the Plas Rhos Hotel and the Whitehall Hotel have long been a popular feature but have now been grassed over, leaving one solitary display.

For sheer hilarity value, I include this bit:

Peter Barton Price is the parks manager for Conwy County Council and claimed the removal was part of moving flower beds to more “prominent positions”. “It is one of the many ways that we’re enhancing areas around Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay.

More prominent than the Promenade? Enhancing areas by removing flower displays?  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 10, 2011, 03:24:23 PM
I wonder if this is the same person who 'enhanced' the large 'LLANDUDNO' at the bottom of Happy Valley by filling in the letters with concrete?
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Post by: Waffagolf on June 28, 2011, 11:58:02 AM
Just to let everyone know. The Conwy Valley Vintage Vehicle Rally will finish on the promenade directly opposite Venue Cymru THIS Sunday 3rd July 2011. Motor cycles and cars should be arriving there from around 2.15pm to assemble for the 3pm prize giving. All welcome. The event is FREE to attend, and there will be some magnificent pre-1972 vehicles to see.
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Post by: Michael on June 28, 2011, 09:57:27 PM
Has this rally got a special connection with Rhos as its in this section?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Waffagolf on June 29, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
Ormegolf may like to go back a few posts whereby the connection will hopefully be made.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 29, 2011, 09:31:47 PM
Just wasted about ten minutes of my life going back. through about 60 or so posts. I got to one about a car smash in Rhos. Is this the connection? if so, its a bit vague
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2011, 08:17:08 AM
I think you two should settle the matter with a 9 holes on the local golf course.  Drivers at 7 so to speak!    :D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 09:00:25 AM
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Just wasted about ten minutes of my life going back. through about 60 or so posts. I got to one about a car smash in Rhos. Is this the connection? if so, its a bit vague
No need to go back that far, Mike, it's this one:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=225.msg28966#msg28966 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=225.msg28966#msg28966)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Waffagolf on June 30, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
I suspect Ormegolf has a problem with me and I further suspect it's related to my St Mary's College posts. Well, I shall make Ormegolf's day. I'm now off the Three Towns Forum. There will be no more from me ever. Goodbye everyone.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2011, 01:34:09 PM
Waffagolf, that's a great shame, you showed us some great pictures and memories  :(
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 10:19:22 AM
The Harbour Deli in Rhos has shut down, following repossession by the Landlord, presumably for non payment of rent. Nice little unit in a good location.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on July 02, 2011, 05:21:20 PM
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Waffagolf, that's a great shame, you showed us some great pictures and memories  :(

 :( I agree.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on July 02, 2011, 11:48:05 PM
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I suspect Ormegolf has a problem with me and I further suspect it's related to my St Mary's College posts. Well, I shall make Ormegolf's day. I'm now off the Three Towns Forum. There will be no more from me ever. Goodbye everyone.

A bit melo-dramatic?

Sounded a lot like 'Goodbye Cruel World'
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on July 03, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
Waffagolf was a major contributor during their short membership, and their contribution will be missed, since that's exactly what this forum is for.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 01:40:10 PM
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Waffagolf was a major contributor during their short membership, and their contribution will be missed, since that's exactly what this forum is for.

I agree, hopefully he may return!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on July 03, 2011, 04:26:38 PM
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I suspect Ormegolf has a problem with me and I further suspect it's related to my St Mary's College posts. Well, I shall make Ormegolf's day. I'm now off the Three Towns Forum. There will be no more from me ever. Goodbye everyone.

A bit melo-dramatic?

Sounded a lot like 'Goodbye Cruel World'


Didn't BrumBob do something similar?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
I must be missing something because I can't see anything that would seem justify this. 

People will come and people will go as they do in all clubs, societies and Forums, often for rather indifferent reasons.   He'll be back maybe with a different name!    WWW
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on July 03, 2011, 11:46:28 PM
Waffagolf---I most definately have not got a problem with you. In fact, I had to check that I had even got your name spelt correctly so little thought had I given to your posts. That applies to everyone else. I just glance through the forum and sometimes reply to a particular point. I just could not understand how a car rally should be put under Rhos on Sea matters, I m ight have been slightly iratated because I'd wasted a second or two of my life reading about a car rally when I expected to read about some old building, shop, person from Rhos. As to the Rhos Preparatory School, I havent got a clue what you mean. I just said that I was a pupil there around 70 years ago, which I was. I know absolutely nothing about it under its other name, and I might add I have absolutely no interest in EVER knowing anything about it.  So, you certainly havent made my day. My day is spent away from the forum, its only by chance that I even happened to read your post, and thats at 11.30 p.m. at night. So, goodbye and goodnight.  (to Waffagolf that is, not the forum)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on July 04, 2011, 01:04:47 AM
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In fact, I had to check that I had even got your name spelt correctly so little thought had I given to your posts. That applies to everyone else.

Thanks Mike.  :'(








 8)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on July 04, 2011, 11:50:28 PM
Trojan, I appear to be upsetting everyone. What I meant is that I am not a devoted follower of the forum. I dont spend much time on it, maybe 5 mins a day, I just skim through recent posts, miss lots altogether, only notice who has written a particular post when it particularly interests me. I am basically a reader, not a writer. I enjoy reading certain posts, but I only reply if I think I can correct or add to some particular information. So, as far as Waffagolf was concerned, I had'nt even noticed that the two subjects that appeared to upset him, St Davids College and the car rally were both written by him. I dont know whether he is still in the forum, but if he is I would say it would'nt bother me in the slightest if I was not a forum member. I could still read the posts as a visitor, and that is all I really enjoy, so if he wants to come back but doesent like to because of me, just say so and I'll resign.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:24:12 AM
No, you're not upsetting everyone Mike. Only one person became upset, apparently.......and left the forum.

Which is a shame.  :'(

It all seems slightly strange to me.

Mr Ledder used to cut Waffagolfs' and your hair at one time too. Come to think of it, you both could have been in his barbers' at the same time and could have passed the time of day, or even chatted for a while. But under the anonymity of a forum you both fall out with each other.

Funny old world really.

 :-X

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Blodyn on July 05, 2011, 12:39:27 PM
It seems to me that some of you chaps do get a little bit "touchy" at times. 

It reminds me of comment by a psychologist friend (female) when we were discussing a mutual acquaintance (male):
"The male ego - so big but so easily damaged!" 

Come on chaps, there's room on the Forum for all of you.   :)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2011, 02:05:38 PM
Well said Blodyn !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on July 05, 2011, 09:09:27 PM
Trojan, re Mr Ledder the barber from Rhos. I dont think Waffagolf and I could have met there, I think there is a large age difference. I went to Ledders approx 1945 to 1950. I dont think St Marys College existed at that time (under that name) so as Waffagolf was a pupil there he is obviously many years behind me in the age stakes. Lucky him.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2011, 07:26:05 AM
Quote
It seems to me that some of you chaps do get a little bit "touchy" at times.

It reminds me of comment by a psychologist friend (female) when we were discussing a mutual acquaintance (male):
"The male ego - so big but so easily damaged!"

IME it's not very gender-specific;  with women it often depends on the date...

But the issue of 'touchiness' on forums is common, and predictable, given that we're deprived of all the non-verbal cues on which we depend during face-to-face encounters. I think what surprises me is that we have relatively few instances, especially when folk sometimes don't realise the impact a specific phrase might have on readers.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 06, 2011, 07:53:08 AM
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IME it's not very gender-specific;  with women it often depends on the date...


 :-X L0L
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: suepp on July 06, 2011, 08:15:25 AM
careful CHAPS  :twoface: $angry$ :rage: ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on July 13, 2011, 09:18:16 AM
I went past Rhos Point this morning and noticed that workmen were dismantling the Colonnade Shelter. No doubt it will not be replaced!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on July 13, 2011, 10:11:36 AM
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I went past Rhos Point this morning and noticed that workmen were dismantling the Colonnade Shelter. No doubt it will not be replaced!

I came across this postcard from the 1950's of Rhos Point recently.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on July 13, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
Nice find, Trojan, the whole area almost looks pedestrianised.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Pendragon on August 02, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=196713173710234 (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=196713173710234)


sounds really interesting.  I love events like these.  ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 04, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
I've just been reading in the NWWN that the Aberhod Restaurant is to be converted into three homes with two additional house at the sides and a further house to the rear.
The houses in this 228 year old property are likely to be unaffordable to local people and were estimated to be in the £300K to £500K region.
It adds that the planning application will be considered by County Planners in a future committee meeting.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
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I've just been reading in the NWWN that the Aberhod Restaurant is to be converted into three homes with two additional house at the sides and a further house to the rear.
The houses in this 228 year old property are likely to be unaffordable to local people and were estimated to be in the £300K to £500K region.
It adds that the planning application will be considered by County Planners in a future committee meeting.
The Planning Application should be thrown out by Planners. Aberhod is one of the oldest buildings in the area (along with Rhos Fynach) and the new build houses would ruin its setting. It's amazing how the Owner can't run the Restaurant at a profit when I see every other Eating place in Rhos is thriving...?

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/04/rhos-on-sea-s-aberhod-old-hall-set-to-clsoe-55243-29171753/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/04/rhos-on-sea-s-aberhod-old-hall-set-to-clsoe-55243-29171753/)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 06, 2011, 03:20:23 PM
I can't see how it's running at a loss either but the temptation seems to be to get a quicker profit by selling it for building purposes.
I haven't seen any notices or plans for this project but if it's going before the planning committee at CCBC then the first part of the process has commenced.
At a guess it sounds like the old story of the Penmorfa Hotel where an option to purchase was signed but subject to planning approval being granted first of all.
In this case however the property is 228 years old so it should have a listed building status on it which should provide a case for the application to be rejected.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on August 06, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
I think that part of the claimed lack of profits is due to the fact that once a catering establishment falls foul of the Public Health people and it is reported in the papers, it takes months, years for it to be forgotten. Makes no difference whether or not it is serious or deserved, it sticks in the back of people's minds.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on August 06, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
If it really is a listed building wonder how they managed to put plastic window frames in it ?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 06, 2011, 07:45:20 PM
You can see in this photo how surrounded by modern buildings Aberhod already is. Most of them were built in what was once its rambling gardens. For any more to be built would be ridiculous. The owner is getting far too greedy, I feel.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 07, 2011, 03:25:40 PM
It seems that the Aberhod is not a listed building after all.      ???

This is what the new buildings will look like.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2011, 11:43:46 AM
Closure of HSBC in Rhos is a blow, not least because its such a prominent building and has two very well used cash machines.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/25/hsbc-to-close-rhos-on-sea-branch-55243-29297224/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/25/hsbc-to-close-rhos-on-sea-branch-55243-29297224/)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bellringer on August 25, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
I did say on the old Local when Barclays closed their Rhos on Sea branch that those Banks left would be reviewing their future. No Bank likes to be the last one in a community because when they decide to close, that Bank gets far more flak than those already gone.

So I think those who use the NatWest better keep a close eye on things.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 08:47:21 AM
I was just passing through Rhos and noticed that a car had crashed into the old Rhos Harbour Bistro premises and demolished the end of the building, along with a section of railings.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Just got a pic of the damage. I was talking to this guy whilst taking the pic and he said it happened at 3am, during one of the rainstorms.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on August 27, 2011, 08:48:30 PM
Lets hope it was'ent anyone with a name like "Forme etc etc)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
At that time of the morning whoever it was could have been Stone d.    L0L
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on August 27, 2011, 09:03:26 PM
If a car has done that much damage, then I think the Council were correct in thinking the building was unstable. That is one hell of a lot of damage from a car, even driven face on at 50.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 07, 2011, 09:25:25 PM
Glancing up Rhos Road this morning I  could see what I thought looked like a new cafe opening on the right hand side. This made me think. Rhos is practically the same, shopwise, as it was seventy years ago. Small shops with a variety of wares to sell, very attractive. The only differences that I can see is one the absence of about 80 per cent of the banks which were once there, and two, the number of cafes that there now are. In my young days there was only one that I remember. Pinningtons on the right hand side of Rhos Road going up. I dont recall any others at all. There was an ice cream parlour, Fortes, where Ninos now is. Dont know what they sold during the war, I am fairly certain that icecream was prohibited through food shortages. Also there was a chippy at the bottom of Colwyn Avenue, but they ONLY sold chips. Thats right, not even fish. And most definately not pies,pop,chicken etc etc. They had'nt even been invented.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 07, 2011, 09:43:42 PM
This incident earlier doesn't sound very pleasant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14825132 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14825132)

I hope all the kids will be alright.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on September 07, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
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Glancing up Rhos Road this morning I  could see what I thought looked like a new cafe opening on the right hand side. This made me think. Rhos is practically the same, shopwise, as it was seventy years ago. Small shops with a variety of wares to sell, very attractive. The only differences that I can see is one the absence of about 80 per cent of the banks which were once there, and two, the number of cafes that there now are. In my young days there was only one that I remember. Pinningtons on the right hand side of Rhos Road going up. I dont recall any others at all. There was an ice cream parlour, Fortes, where Ninos now is. Dont know what they sold during the war, I am fairly certain that icecream was prohibited through food shortages. Also there was a chippy at the bottom of Colwyn Avenue, but they ONLY sold chips. Thats right, not even fish. And most definately not pies,pop,chicken etc etc. They had'nt even been invented.
Ah, Pinningtons. I can still taste their sticky currant buns! What a shame that they closed down, a real Rhos institution.

As is Ninos - Nino himself remembers me going there as a boy and is still there greeting all the customers like old friends all these years later.  :)

The new Cafe at the foot of Rhos Road is called the Harbour Cafe and replaces the Harbour Deli:

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Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on September 08, 2011, 02:33:45 PM
I used to like the Vanilla slices from Pinningtons.  X:((
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2011, 09:38:46 PM
We saw a lot of those being THROWN AWAY in Rhos today..... didn't we Dave R?   :rage: :rage:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 08, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
Why DID Pinningtons close? Judging by all the cafes now  (8, or 10, or more, I dont know) it could not have been because of lack of demand.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 02:18:02 AM
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We saw a lot of those being THROWN AWAY in Rhos today..... didn't we Dave R?   :rage: :rage:

 $angry$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: white rabbit on September 09, 2011, 07:29:37 PM
Pinningtons closed because the Pinningtons died
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: emma p on September 09, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
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This incident earlier doesn't sound very pleasant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14825132 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14825132)

I hope all the kids will be alright.

 Must be a nationwide problem at the mo........first week back at school and the wasps stings we have treated too numerous to mention.
Even parents are getting stung....theres an alleyway opposite school with a particularly viscious nest apparently. Time of year i suppose.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 09, 2011, 09:07:28 PM
Thanks, White Rabbit. Although I knew the cafe for all my young life, I never once entered the doors nor knew who the Pinningtons were. However it still appears unusual. If you have a business and there is, apparently,a mega demand, the death of the family owners doesent usually mean the death of the business. Far from it. So I am still puzzled (though I'm not going to loose any sleep over it). Why did Pinningtons close?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on September 10, 2011, 07:54:21 AM
They did not have any family to pass the business on to and Harry Pinnington and his wife Louie were quite old and may have actually sold the business before their demise, I am not exactly certain.   Who ever knows the real ins and outs of peoples lives?    :D

If it was sold then you can now turn your attention to whoever took the business over!    WWW
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 10, 2011, 10:01:50 PM
Thanks Yorkie. The Pinningtons must have been a good age because the cafe was there, under that name, in 1936. Maybe even a lot earlier.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
The Pinningtons (Rhos On Sea) Ltd company is still going strong, I suspect it owns the property that was the old shop and which is now let to William Hill. A Mr & Mrs Bates own it.

http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/00818771/pinningtons-rhosonsea (http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/00818771/pinningtons-rhosonsea)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on September 13, 2011, 11:01:14 AM
I seem to remember Pinningtons had a shop in Penrhyn Ave as well as Rhos Road.

Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 13, 2011, 03:05:55 PM
 There was a cake shop opposite the old Rhos Playhouse (bughouse) which opened up at the end of the war with what we thought was most exotic foods, vanilla slices for example. It might even have been there in the war years, but it wouldnt have been able to bake anything like that. I think, and only think, it was connected with Pinningtons cafe, might even have been the same people. Funny I cannot be sure, I can still remember the man from there and I can picture him giving me a terrific dressing down because he reckoned I nearly caused a car accident with him in Mochdre. I reckoned he was driving too fast.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Trojan on September 14, 2011, 05:40:18 AM
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vanilla slices for example.

 X:((
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on December 30, 2011, 08:39:15 AM
The piece in the NWWN about regeneration of Rhos On Sea is a classic example of blinkered CCBC and Councillor thinking.

Now councillors Merfyn Thomas, Phil Edwards, Dave Roberts and Roger Parry are organising a public meeting to gauge public views on how Rhos-on-Sea can be developed.. Cllr Thomas met with council officers last week and wants to see how European funding could be targeted to regenerate sites like the council-owned former Rhos Bistro Cafe at Rhos Point.
Cllr Thomas explained: “It is all about money, we are looking at developing Rhos-on-Sea in various phases.
“But we need to get the consensus from the general public about what they want to see.
“Hopefully we are going to try and get some European money and we need to put a plan in place this year. If we get the application in for the European Convergence Fund in 2012, then if the bid goes in we could get the money in 2013.
“But we need to get the views of the public as there is no point applying for things if they don’t like it.”
Cllr Thomas is keen to see Rhos-on-Sea developed, particularly the now derelict Rhos Point Cafe, which the council is still considering options for the future.
“Rhos-on-Sea is very much the poor relation; last year I had to give up part of my allowance to get the toilets open at the paddling pool.
“I couldn’t think of anything beyond the railings being painted that has been done in Rhos-on-Sea.
“The village is looking tired, it needs a facelift. Rhos Point Cafe is derelict, it looks like a bomb-site.
“If you think of anywhere between Rhyl and Bangor that has got shops on the sea front, there is nowhere which has got the facility within 40 miles and Rhos-on-Sea has that facility.
“This is our opportunity. I can think of nothing nicer than sitting at a restaurant at Rhos Point with a glass of wine and looking out to sea.”


According to the Planning Report for Aberhod that appeared a couple of months back, CCBC has received nearly 20 expressions of interest from private businesses in redeveloping the Rhos Point Cafe site. So why, when there is ample private money ready and waiting to do the job, is there any talk about applying for grants that may not be received and will take years to come through?

You could also ask why CCBC needs to own a Cafe at all? In these supposedly tough economic times, why is is not just sold off?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 30, 2011, 11:41:35 AM
It seems so simple to me, sell it off and let the private sector do the job properly! Its a prime location, wasted and an eyesore too like it is.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on December 30, 2011, 03:21:55 PM
Hmm, 20 different schemes to regenerate the Rhos Point Bistro?

Well, I don't know about the other 19, but I recall that one of them was geared precisely to give the good Councillor his wish. That being to sit and and look out to see with a glass of wine.  Don't you remember it Dave?   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on December 30, 2011, 09:33:22 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2012, 11:16:15 AM
CCBC have come up with a plan to develop all of Rhos Point, create a new public park, build a marina and new breakwater...

Close Abbey Street to traffic (I think they mean Abbey Road, actually! DR)

Create link from Penrhyn Avenue to park

Connect the two existing parks together to create one linked park

Create water park and playground

Southside park to be more natural and accommodate outside gym space

Rhos point building to house maritime interpretation centre, café, restaurant, gallery and retail / studio units

New street furniture to draw people along promenade with resting points

New harbour and marina created with new sea wall defence and connected to point building
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 04, 2012, 12:11:30 PM
Looks really good, I think Rhos on Sea could have a great future (done correctly),  when do they plan to start it?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
Does this mean that the 20-odd applications they had from private businesses to re-invigorate and invest in Rhos Point have all been ignored?  Or perhaps considered and dismissed?

I wonder if the restaurant, cafe etc... will be available for concession?  Or some other kind of private enterprise?

I'm not keen on the council running restaurants and the like.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 14, 2012, 08:33:08 AM
Rhos Point Community Consultation

Conwy County Borough Council is asking residents and businesses around Rhos on Sea to give their ideas and opinions to help develop a vision for the future of Rhos Point.

The existing Rhos Point buildings are in a poor state and the site will require some form of redevelopment plan for the future. This may provide an opportunity to include other sites, such as the park, and develop a more inclusive project.

Please take a look at the information and complete the feedback form with your ideas.
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=30946&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=30946&Language=1)

Return the form by email to property.development2@conwy.gov.uk before 25 April.

A drop-in event will be taking place on Wednesday, 14 March from 8.30am until 7.30pm in the old flower shop next door to the Fortes café for people to meet staff and view ideas for the area.

For more information email: property.development2@conwy.gov.uk or call 01492 574522.


The bit not mentioned is that CCBC have no funding whatsoever to carry out any of this work and so the whole consultation exercise is essentially pointless...
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on March 14, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
But those CCBC staff involved will get paid nevertheless.... a waste of time and money.   &shake& &shake&

I believe that Rhos Point should be developed by private businesses and investors, under the watchful eye of CCBC planning dept to ensure no ridiculous or incongruous schemes.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 14, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
Plenty of people'dropping in' as we passed this morning.
Group of people taking photos by the sea fencing, ignoring passers by having to walk in the road.  I shall refrain to comment about bad manners.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 14, 2012, 08:08:09 PM
As we drove up towards the A55 today we passed the Llandrillo Parish Church and I noticed that the flag flying on the tower seemed to be The Blue Ensign (Blue with a Union Jack in the top corner near the flag pole) but I can't find out why. Can anyone tell me why it was flying that flag. 
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Post by: Jack on April 14, 2012, 08:22:27 PM
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As we drove up towards the A55 today we passed the Llandrillo Parish Church and I noticed that the flag flying on the tower seemed to be The Blue Ensign (Blue with a Union Jack in the top corner near the flag pole) but I can't find out why. Can anyone tell me why it was flying that flag.

Just a guess but is it something to do with the Titanic?  Did Harold Lowe not have a connection with the church in Rhos?
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Post by: Jack on April 14, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
In fact he seems to be buried in the graveyard there!
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Post by: TheMedz on April 15, 2012, 07:37:23 AM
Thanks Jack. That makes sense now.  I've also found this on the internet re Titanic's connection with the Blue Ensign.http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Information/articles/Titantic/titanic.htm (http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Information/articles/Titantic/titanic.htm)
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Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2012, 05:40:45 PM
The weather has been horrendous today and I've stayed indoors all day.  I can see all the promenade from the room and the white waves are still pounding the prom.  It's a good job they built that breakwater when they did or otherwise Rhos would definitely have flooded today.
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Post by: DaveR on August 23, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
Report on the options for redevelopment of Rhos Point. I notice someone put forward the idea of rebuilding Rhos Pier!!  :laugh:

http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000452/M00003324/AI00035316/ (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000452/M00003324/AI00035316/)$RhosPointConsultationReport.doc.pdf
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 23, 2012, 12:27:17 PM
It won't let me see it, access denied?
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Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Same here !
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Post by: DaveR on August 23, 2012, 01:19:53 PM
http://goo.gl/fKdpR (http://goo.gl/fKdpR)
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Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2012, 06:09:31 PM
It seems like a large crack has appeared in the main road by Llandrillo Technical College and traffic has been diverted in both directions
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Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
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It seems like a large crack has appeared in the main road by Llandrillo Technical College and traffic has been diverted in both directions
I wondered what was going on. I noticed that a drain had also collapsed just outside Villa Marina at Craigside and emergency repairs are being carried out.
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Post by: viv on August 30, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
The problem by the college is a water main. There has been a dispute between the Council and Welsh Water as to who should repair it - but Welsh Water have accepted responsibility.
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Post by: Nemesis on September 19, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
Massive tailback at the roadworks traffic lights yesterday p.m just before the Ship.
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Post by: Michael on September 20, 2012, 06:42:15 PM
Don't see Everything to do with Rhos coming up very often.   So---Anyone remember "Goosey" who used to hang around the Pyes Coaches site where Fortes now trade? Step forward "White Rabbit" maybe. But it was many years ago. White Rabbit would have been a very,very young girl. "Goosey" was a goose .probably looked after in a fashion by Pyes drivers.

   HE HAD A HABIT OF hopping on the platform   at the rear of passing trams. I never found out where he got off Mike
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 25, 2012, 10:42:08 PM
After all of this rain we had a quick walk near the Rugby club, a lot of water!

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Post by: white rabbit on September 26, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
Ormegolf - only just seen your post about Goosey!  I don't remember Goosey but do remember Pyes Coaches being where Fortes is now.  Spent a lot of my youth at the stables behinde there!!
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Post by: Michael on September 27, 2012, 07:51:31 PM
We lads spent a lot of time behind Pyes, up the alley. In the dark. Back of the Rhos abbey. Soda cyphons, fancy things that but bubbles into water. Into a sack, up to Westwells off licence, 2/6 pence a time refund. Illegal of course. I'm not proud of it, but I don't feel a lot of shame either. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on October 14, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
Nearly got mown down a few times this a.m. on our regular walk on Rhos prom. The cycle track is now so far gone that no one can see where it starts and ends. No wonder the cyclists are belting along on the footway.
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Post by: DaveR on December 15, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Building work is well underway on Aberhod, which dates back to 1783, to convert the former restaurant into residential accommodation.
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Post by: Michael on December 15, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
    I grew up within yards of this building. Long before the theatre was built. We all knew that the building was there, but no one that I knew had ever set eyes on it. At the front, where DaveRs photo shows, had a very high, very thick hedge which obscured the slightest view. At the back (Everard Road) was a very high fence which did the same job.   You can imagine what  youngsters  fertile imaginations guessed went on inside.  Everything from a nest of German spies to a secret supply of bananas being hoarded.  I never really saw a banana until I was 14, at the end of the war.   Mike
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Post by: DaveR on December 15, 2012, 06:51:18 PM
I remember when it was eventually sold (1970s or early 80s), I went to the Auction of the contents with my Parents. I think the high hedge was still there then. I remember lots of rooms, piled high with various bits and pieces.
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Post by: white rabbit on December 15, 2012, 07:52:14 PM
I also grew up very near there - I think us girls thouht witches lived there!!
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Post by: Yorkie on December 15, 2012, 08:35:37 PM
Although not a native of the town, I lived on the Cayley Bank for a couple of years in the mid 1970's.  Fantastic view but a mite chilly in the Winter with the North and East winds and no central heating or double glazing.   ZXZ
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 15, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
You would have been warmer in one of the bungalows!  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on December 16, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
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You would have been warmer in one of the bungalows!  :laugh:

Probably, the 4 reception and 5 bedrooms were a lot to keep warm!   ;D
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Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2012, 12:16:40 PM
Looking through my window now I can see a large boat just off Rhos point.  It's an unusual thing with a large crane on the stern.
Anyone know that it is doing there?
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Post by: Tosh on December 22, 2012, 12:24:42 PM
Go to this link and you might find that it is the Stanislav Yudin and it is working on the wind farm.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)
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Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2012, 02:12:38 PM
 I asked a friend who is an expert on all things to do with shipping. Here is his answer.

it is the Crane Barge STANISLAV UDIN which is used for putting the bases
in at GYM.
I think they are anchoring here for the Christmas holidays with a number of
supporting tugs. The tug is the BREMEN FIGHTER.
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Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2012, 05:29:45 PM
Thanks very much Tosh and Nemesis for your replies. At the moment the ship is moored in the same position and looks nice lit up for the night.
Thats an interesting link to shipping.   $good$
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Post by: Blongb on December 22, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if it had come in to do the repair work on the landing stage at the end of the pier. But that's to much to hope for. I*
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Post by: Tosh on December 22, 2012, 07:43:37 PM
I always have a look at the shipping that is around the coast.
Once in a while float up to Scotland and see the new D class destroyers on sea trials out of the Glasgow shipyards.
If you can stand the pace go down to the English Channel and you'll be amazed at the number of ships passing through there.
Enjoy.
Tosh
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Post by: Nemesis on December 23, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
Thanks to my informed friend I have followed a few of these links, not that I know alot on the subject, but it is always interesting to know what is what.
Here's a similar one
http://www.shipais.com/index.php (http://www.shipais.com/index.php)
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Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2012, 04:28:42 PM
In other news, Stevie Wonder has been called in to paint the former HSBC branch in Rhos:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 27, 2012, 06:02:54 PM
 :o I'm surprised he didn't paint that green cabinet to match that delightful colour scheme!
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Post by: Michael on December 28, 2012, 07:20:48 PM
       I am the last person on earth to make fun of anyone with any kind of disability. But both the people I am about to write about have obviously long since died and it is highly unlikely that anyone close to them should read this.
       The time would be around the late 1930s. The shop on DaveR,s photo on the left traded under the name of "Ida Turnbull." ladies outfitters, run by Ida Turnbull. Unfortunately for her she suffered from a terrible twitch which forced her to constantly and suddenly fling her head and neck to one side virtually every half minute or so. You must admire her, she was also the main star in the Colwyn Bay light opera society, she always took the lead female roll. Apparently she had the voice of an angel, and when she had a particularly long note to sing, not a sign of the twitch. The moment she closed her mouth she would erupt into two or three strong twitches.
  Right next door down Rhos Road was a shoe shop. Run by a man, name unknown to me. But his nickname to everyone, adults and kids, was "nodder."  As you will guess he had an uncontroled need to nod his head constantly, the shop was always referred to as Nodders.
  A strange coincidence that they were neighbours. They must have both had strong characters. In those less tolerant days they must both have suffered torment, if only from kids. 
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Post by: Ian on December 29, 2012, 08:05:12 AM
A number of stammerers can sing without any problems, Mike.  Presumably a similar mechanism is at work.
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Post by: stewbow on March 09, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
I noticed this morning that the Aberhod development has now included double glazed windows in the front of the building.
I'm just wondering how the people affected by the PVC window policy in Llandudno  are thinking about this development

Stuart
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2013, 04:29:59 PM
The rather tatty upvc windows were installed when it was a restaurant. The Planning Permission for the conversion to housing includes their replacement with wooden sash windows.
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Post by: stewbow on March 10, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
I may be mistaken, but wooden frames don't normally go in white and glazed, from the site perimitter they look plastic
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Post by: DaveR on March 10, 2013, 09:04:47 AM
Are you sure they aren't the old windows? When I went past the other day, it still had the white UPVc windows in, that were installed a few years ago. Here's a photo I took last December showing the upvc windows:
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Post by: stewbow on March 11, 2013, 05:13:36 PM
I think they are the old ones :o

stuart
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Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
The new owners of the Rhos Fynach pub in Rhos are seeking to reinstate the popular crazy golf course that was removed in 1990:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2013, 12:28:59 PM
Good idea, just what a seaside town needs!  $good$
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Post by: Linda on March 20, 2013, 10:53:59 PM
That would be a good move for them I'm sure, I always thought there was a lot of wasted space there.
I also remember swimming in the ice cold  outdoor pool behind the pub. A bit tatty but a seaside amenity. I cant remember the year it closed.
I hope when the Rhos point is rebuilt the character of that area is kept with the Old pierhead.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 21, 2013, 08:32:56 AM
You are on the spot there Linda. I swam there during holidays in the late 50s early 60s and it was the coldest pool I had ever swum in ! Brrr :o
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Post by: Fester on March 21, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
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The new owners of the Rhos Fynach pub in Rhos are seeking to reinstate the popular crazy golf course that was removed in 1990:

New owners of The Rhos Fynach?   I always thought that was a brilliant, but under utilised pub.
I used to pop in for a pint regularly between 2002 and 2010, but it was never busy to its full potential.
But I thought it was owned by CCBC?  Are CCBC now selling off such assets to private enterprise?
If so, there are a few I wouldn't mind bidding for!
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Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2013, 02:24:15 PM
As we know, mate, the supposedly 'cash strapped' CCBC won't sell off surplus property assets preferring to leave them derelict, e.g. Rhos Point.

The long lease of the Rhos Fynach was sold to the company that owns the Oriel House Hotel in St Asaph a few months ago. CCBC retains the Freehold.
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Post by: Fester on March 21, 2013, 02:47:51 PM
I see!   I was about to put my bid in to buy The Great Orme Tramway....
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Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Really? was about to put my bid in to buy the GREAT ORME....
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Post by: Michael on October 05, 2013, 11:36:29 PM
   Anyone know what is wrong with the roof of the Little Chapel?   Seen from a distance it appears to have something blue covering the roof. Not a tarpaulin. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on October 06, 2013, 08:36:55 AM
When we passed earlier this week we spotted a sign saying that it was closed for repairs, but it didn't specify what kind.
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Post by: Neil on October 20, 2013, 02:53:06 PM
Rhos Rainbow, 12.30 today.
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Post by: Nemesis on October 20, 2013, 05:18:04 PM
Great pics Neil. We saw the rainbow coming the other way, on the back road into Conwy. Didn't manage a pic though. Too busy negotiating the huge puddles in the road ! :D
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Post by: Michael on October 20, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
Hello Nemeses,   I just spotted your name and in the Rhos on Sea thread. Just read what you had to say, but whilst I'm here this is a question I've been meaning to ask for years.
   The forum has many members with a variety of skills. So does anyone know where I should go to try and find details about a particular book.
Title unknown. Author unknown. All I know is that it is fiction, but maybe parts of it are based on possible facts.
    I read it when I was very, very young. It is based in Rhos, fictionally probable around 500 years ago. As far as I can remember it is really a book of two halves.  The first half was all about Rhos Ffynach, Llys Euryn, tunnels, smugglers, monks and adventure with a big A, all set in Rhos.
   The second half was more romantic, Mills and Boon style, I dont recall but it was something about a pirate falling in love, kissing hands etc.etc.
  That is why I don't know the name, I never read it right through. As an adventurist ten year old the first half was right up my street, but the second half I lost interest and the book was left, forgotten.
   Anyone any ideas? I've never heard anything about it, anywhere. But I dont think I dreamt it.   Mike
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Post by: Blongb on October 20, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
Good luck with that one Mike
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Post by: Yorkie on October 20, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
Was it one of these?

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/books/adventure-crusoe-kidnapped-forester-kipling/timeless-tales.shtml (http://www.abebooks.co.uk/books/adventure-crusoe-kidnapped-forester-kipling/timeless-tales.shtml)
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Post by: Michael on October 20, 2013, 09:22:38 PM
   Hello Yorkie and thanks, but, no, this book was actually based in Rhos----I remember it describing one of these tunnels of which I have heard rumours all my life.  From the fireplace in Llys Euryn down to the monks fishing weir etc etc. Perhaps White Rabbit with her long standing connections with Rhos might have a clue.
   Of course, the author would certainly not be well known.  Morelikely someone who lived around Rhos, knocked the book up and somehow got a very limited number of copies published.  But thats just my guess  Mike   P.S. Genny and pump going fine
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Post by: Yorkie on October 20, 2013, 09:28:04 PM
Maybe The Castle of Adventure by Enid Blyton? ZXZ

Based on North Wales.
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Post by: Nemesis on October 21, 2013, 08:52:23 AM
Hi Mike. Hope you are OK. Have you tried going into the Archive Dept of Llandudno Library in Lloyd Street and asking. It may be out of their range of knowledge, but they may be able to put you in touch with someone who will know. I will ask around, as I have a friend with a very knowledgeable friend !!!
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Post by: Welshmaid on October 21, 2013, 01:01:39 PM
Welshmaid to the rescue Ormegolf!!   The book is 'A Welsh Courtship'  by Fred W. West OBE and it was published in 1930.
As you say, references to Bryn Euryn, The Ship pub on Tan-y-Bryn Road etc etc. 
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Post by: white rabbit on October 21, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
Sorry I couldn't help Mike but looks like Welshmaid has the answer for you
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Post by: Michael on October 21, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
     Thanks very much Welshmaid.     Delighted to hear from you in the forum once again.  Mike
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Post by: Michael on October 22, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
   I am sure Welshmaid will not mind me writing this. She is a lady who obviously follows the forum but only very rarely writes anything.

   Thats O.K.   A lot of the prolific writers maybe write too much, but less of that, we all keep the forum going.

   But I think I must mention that it is partially through Welshmaid that I am a member.

   In the old forum back around four years ago I stumbled around the site and found a writer asking if anyone remembered Madam Elliott in Rhos.  I most certainly did, and I replied straight away.

   I then very swiftly realised that this mystery Welshmaid knew one hell of a lot about the postwar period in Rhos.

    I soon realised who she was. I have known her since she was about one or two years old---I'm not going to tell you when that was. Far be it for me to disclose a ladies age   Mike    But thanks very much W M for info about the book
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Post by: Michael on October 22, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
   Just spent the last hour or so on the net trying to trace this book. Amazon know about it, but out of stock.

   The reason I write now is the extraordinary difference in character between two men with the same name --- three if you include the Fred West OBE that Welshmaid gives as the author.

   One Fred West, for a START he was awarded the V.C.in 1918, lost a leg, but managed to climb the ranks during the wars, became an Air Commodour in the R.A.F. had many other awards. Fought again right through the 39-45 war. But no connection at all with Rhos on Sea.

   Second, a more recent Fred West. Murderer of the most horrible sort.  I won't bother to write more.  Thank God he never set foot in Rhos.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 22, 2013, 09:43:30 PM
Hi Mike
I have done a good search for this book, including some top U S book sellers and have come up against a blank wall.  The book must exist somewhere but as it was printed in 1930 the print run was probably rather small.  I will try again tomorrow with some other sources and see if I can get a copy for you.
 ££$

This is a review published in 1931.

'A Welsh Courtship.' By Fred W.
West. London: Jarrold's. — Silas
Brown, a bluff middle-aged English
man, suddenly appears in North Wales
at the time when supporters of the
Pretender were most active. His
mission was to unmask a suspected
plot against the Crown. The plot
is developed amid all the romance of
a picturesque country, with many
thrilling adventures and humorous in
terludes. Lovers of Wales and her
quaint old-fashioned customs will find
a special pleasure in this delightful
story. ?


 
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Post by: Michael on October 22, 2013, 10:49:04 PM
  Thanks Yorkie.    Amazon list it but say its out of stock and they don't know if or when it might be back. Otherwise Ive had no joy. Mike
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Post by: Yorkie on October 23, 2013, 08:49:55 AM
Barnes and Noble in the US normally can get such rareties but even their computer said, "No!"    :D

You could go to www.abebooks.co.uk (http://www.abebooks.co.uk) and create a WANT, they will then try to find it for you and also auto check their lists of books coming in, new or second hand.
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Post by: mull on October 23, 2013, 11:06:56 AM
We will keep a lookout for it up here.
My wife and I have run a bookstall for the RNLI in our garage for the past 14 years and we get books donated from all over the UK by regular visitors.
Just the sort of book that could turn up if someone is doing a house clearance.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 23, 2013, 01:40:52 PM
Sorry to say, that despite almost wearing out my iPad this morning, my search has resulted in a total blank!  It must be as rare as hen's teeth.   I will keep it in mind and, one never knows, it may just turn up.    ;)
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Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2013, 11:55:00 AM
The Surf Shop on Rhos Prom by Ninos has closed down.
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Post by: nwpo on November 18, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
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The Surf Shop on Rhos Prom by Ninos has closed down.

Always sad to see a business close, but if they can't make it work in an area where I've seen surfers, what hope have they got of making any money in Dolgarrog at Surf Snowdonia?
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Post by: Dave on November 18, 2013, 05:39:25 PM
They might have moved to the Water Sports Centre ?
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Post by: FatAndy on November 18, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
There's a note from the hairdresser that used to operate out of the surf shop stuck in the window.  I'm sure it said something about relocating due to the lease expiring.  That sounds odd to me as it's not all that long since the surf shop relocated from Conwy.  Maybe it was never their intention to stay in Rhos, why else take on premises with such a short lease remaining?
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Post by: Neil on November 28, 2013, 10:54:10 PM
A lot of work going on at the Ship Inn when I passed today, anybody know what it's going to be?
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Post by: Yelboh on November 28, 2013, 11:06:51 PM
I believe The Ship is going to be a steak house pub.  A firm from Chester has the lease from Punch.
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Post by: Yelboh on December 04, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
Update on my earlier post, I believe The Ship in Rhos has been taken on by Hickorys smokehouse of Chester an west kirby.  Looks interesting and increases choice in the area.

http://hickorys.co.uk/ (http://hickorys.co.uk/)
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 07:17:22 AM
Interesting, thanks for letting us know, Yelboh.
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Post by: Neil on December 05, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
A few pics of the today's storm.
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 05:40:55 PM
Great shots, Neil. That's one heck of a wave in the second photo.  $good$
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Post by: Ian on December 06, 2013, 03:53:21 AM
Superb shots.
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Post by: penpal on December 06, 2013, 12:30:02 PM
Pity the surf shop shut- there were a handful of surfers out near the Porth Eirias yesterday - up and coming surf spot????
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Post by: Michael on December 08, 2013, 09:42:45 AM
I know it's not in Rhos but surfing in the Bay is mentioned. So, anyone know how the new beach got on?
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Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2013, 03:03:04 PM
Past by there yesterday, it looks a bit churned up and there is a fair amount of sand on the prom, but not bad.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
Called into the Skip today.  Absolutely deserted, nothing apparently open and just about half a dozen cars using the car park!    WWW
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 08, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
The skip not full of kitchen fitters then?  :twoface:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
Couldn't be bothered to even get out of the car to have a closer look!   With all the noise of crashing waves they could have had the loos open!   :D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on December 09, 2013, 08:40:35 AM
As I consider myself as an elder statesman from Rhos -- how about you 3 town people stopping posting about " the skip" in this thread.Rhos has got more sense than to have skips on its beach.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 09, 2013, 10:15:25 AM
I was thinking the same Mike, although I doubt that most people in Colwyn Bay want it either to be honest!  :twoface:
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Post by: Yorkie on December 09, 2013, 03:33:54 PM
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As I consider myself as an elder statesman from Rhos -- how about you 3 town people stopping posting about " the skip" in this thread.Rhos has got more sense than to have skips on its beach.

Rhos didn't have any problems when they got rid of the Swimming Pool and the Pier, and a few other interesting artifacts!    :D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 15, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
Sadly there is a dead porpoise / dolphin on the seafront, perhaps from the recent bad weather?
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Post by: Linda on December 16, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Its a young common Dolphin, thats so sad  :'(
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Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2013, 09:00:49 AM
Is that 'Crime Scene' tape around the body?  ???
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 16, 2013, 10:20:26 AM
It had 'Coastguard' printed on it.
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Post by: wrex on December 16, 2013, 12:26:40 PM
i see the big ship that was anchored off Rhos is now sheltering off angelsey before Wednesdays big storm.
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Post by: Hugo on December 16, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
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i see the big ship that was anchored off Rhos is now sheltering off angelsey before Wednesdays big storm.

That Floating Hotel Ship is still there off Rhos  Wrex and it seems to come in for shelter when a storm is forecast.  I've seen it there before when the weather was stormy.
I can see it from my window and watched it go out to sea last time and it just disappeared from view way past those windmills.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 03, 2014, 10:52:49 PM
The new crazy golf course is coming on well, they were working on it today in the winds, must be crazy!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2014, 05:23:43 PM
I was looking at it the other day, the whole layout looks really cramped to me.
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Post by: dwsi on January 06, 2014, 06:36:42 PM
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I was looking at it the other day, the whole layout looks really cramped to me.

Designed by a numpty with a degree who's never been to Rhôs on Sea?
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Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2014, 10:31:43 AM
A US style smokehouse restaurant will create up to 60 jobs and breathe life into a former pub when it opens in North Wales in March.

Hickory’s, which has successful restaurants in Chester and West  Kirby, Wirral, has bought The Ship  pub in Rhos-on-Sea which closed last  year.

Renovation work started at the end of November and the firm is now set to start recruiting.

It is the latest quality eating venue  to open in the region – and will  launch just a month after chef Bryn Williams opens an eaterie in the nearby Porth Eirias watersports centre on the Colwyn Bay prom.

Project manager Gary Carter said: “We spent time in the region trying to  identify a site in the Colwyn Bay/Llandudno area because we felt  there was a great demographic here  for the restaurant.

“We had spent a day in the area and  not found anything ideal and were  having a drink at a place near Rhuallt  Hill on the way home.

“An old guy got talking with us and  suggested the Ship site.

“We decided to come back the next  day and look at the site and it was  perfect, both in terms of its location  and also the space available, we were  very specific on what we wanted.

“Work started at the end of  November.”

The core construction team on the  project has come from the Chester  area but the firm is using plastering  and joinery workers from  the local  community.

Once completed the restaurant  will accommodate nearly 130 diners  inside and the same amount outside  with covered areas warmed by outdoor heaters.

There will also be a cinema and  play area for children.

Gary added: “We have not  scrimped on quality. We have learnt  from previous projects.

“In Chester we initially put in a  cheap floor, it lasted 18 months and  we had to replace it and close for  three days. We have learnt that it is  best to pay more for quality as this  will pay off in the long term, also this  time we have the money to invest.

“The investment here is substantial. As well as serving the local community we also hope to do well with  visitors to the area and bring more  people here.”

Jennie Grimes, marketing and PR  manager, said: “I know the area well  from visiting with my family and we  have been amazed by the reaction  from the local community to us coming here, we have had so many messages of support.

“Our close neighbours tell us about  when the Ship garden would be full  of people eating and we want to  re-build that reputation as a venue.

“Our staff are passionate about  what they do, some staff have been to  Louisiana on road trips to research  drinks and food and come back with  great ideas. We encourage them to be  innovative.

“We will initially take on between  50 and 60 staff to start up, we are  holding recruitment days and working with the college down the road  over training.

“A core team of three will come  here initially with the future core  team for North Wales going to  Chester to train up and learn all  about the company and how we  work and if they like it.

“We run busy restaurants and have  high standards, most respond well to  that.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/style-smokehouse-restaurant-create-60-6477832 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/style-smokehouse-restaurant-create-60-6477832)
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Post by: Ian on January 08, 2014, 10:36:38 AM
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Our staff are passionate about  what they do

Aren't they simply 'good' at it? Yet another nail in the coffin of clear communication.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
I do hope that they made the effort to reward the 'old guy' for his recommendation and advice.

That sounded a little dismissive to me.



Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2014, 11:45:19 AM
It is the latest quality eating venue  to open in the region – and will  launch just a month after chef Bryn Williams opens an eaterie in the nearby Porth Eirias watersports centre on the Colwyn Bay prom.

Pie in the sky? Things are going to have to move a little more speedily down in the skip !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 08, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
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Pie in the sky? Things are going to have to move a little more speedily down in the skip !

Pie in the Skip! If the Bistro ever happens that is! (Can't see it happening myself!)  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: FatAndy on March 10, 2014, 09:00:17 AM
A couple of long established shops in Rhos, Lesley Carole and Tabitha Jane, are holding closing down sales.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: hollins on March 28, 2014, 04:47:39 PM
I had a lovely afternoon pottering around the shops in Rhos on Sea today.
I saw this work going on moving huge rocks around. Is this something to do with the storm damage?
Then I drove further along and couldn't believe the massive job with the concrete pipes. What a shame that the beach is all dug up again. Looks a huge amount of work.
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Post by: norman08 on March 28, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
by all accounts the idiots covered the drainpipes up with the rocks and all the sand  _))*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2014, 08:51:54 AM
The stones are being moved to fit heavy black rubber stuff behind them against the wall, then graded and replaced and added to according to what one of the engineers told us last week. They 'new beach' dig is to install some outflow pipes he said, now why they put the beach down and are now digging it up again he didn't seem to know.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
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. . . . . .  now why they put the beach down and are now digging it up again he didn't seem to know.

They learnt that trick from the Gas, Electric, Phone and sewer folk who regularly dig up the road one after another.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on April 04, 2014, 01:16:56 PM
Any news on The Aberhod?  All seems very quiet there !
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
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Any news on The Aberhod?  All seems very quiet there !
I've just been past and workmen are demolishing the new wings that were built either side of the original building - how odd?
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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Aberhod again - even more odd is that workmen have now removed the newly installed slate roof and timbers?!
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Post by: Blongb on May 22, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
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Aberhod again - even more odd is that workmen have now removed the newly installed slate roof and timbers?!

Perhaps it's going to be converted into a Travelodge too  ;)
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Post by: temperancellandudno on May 27, 2014, 10:48:40 PM
Hello everyone

An earlier post seems to have been lost - here goes for a second time!

I was in Rhos today, and the position with the Aberhod grows stranger. The roof has certainly gone, and today I watched workers removing one of the remaining stone chimney stacks. This was done carefully, using a crowbar, with the stones stacked on an adjacent platform.

What is left is a battered shell. Does anyone know what is going on?

take care

TL
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Post by: temperancellandudno on May 27, 2014, 10:52:50 PM
Hello again

One for the trivia department, but the tearoom known as Sally's has just been rebranded as the Rhos Pancake House. I called there today - pancakes not bad - and was told that the change of name took place yesterday!

TL
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cat Stevens on May 28, 2014, 11:14:22 AM
Remember reading something a while ago which made reference to aberhod being converted for use as something which made reference to accommodation flats I think. Forgive me for being vague as it was a while ago and I read it quite early as morning was breaking. Think it went bust recently as a business. Vague but hope it helps
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Blongb on May 28, 2014, 07:43:24 PM
This might help http://www.owendevenport.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=142:aberhod-redevelopment-allowed-on-appeal&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=50 (http://www.owendevenport.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=142:aberhod-redevelopment-allowed-on-appeal&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=50)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2014, 04:29:37 PM
What a beautiful sunny day in Rhos today with a nice sea breeze to stop you overheating.     An ideal day for another ice cream ( my 3rd this week)  so I stopped by the little St Trillo's Chapel and had another vanilla cornet,    $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 21, 2014, 10:51:21 AM
 Dolphins were spotted just off shore and near St Trillo's Chapel on Thursday at 3.30 pm.    I'll have a look today and it'll be a good excuse to stop and have another of those delicious ice creams!    $happy$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 21, 2014, 12:20:50 PM
I trust it will be complimentary.
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Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2014, 10:10:59 AM
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I trust it will be complimentary.

I wish it was and I could go there more often!         $good$

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2014, 11:17:18 AM
It was lovely driving through Rhos in the warm sunshine yesterday and seeing hordes of people on the front enjoying themselves.  I noticed that the new improved section of the sandy beach was open and that there were many families on it taking advantage of the weather.
There was a parking space by St Trillo's Chapel so I just had to stop and have another vanilla ice cream.     $good$    There was a guy there with a Nikon camera and apparently he had been taking photos of the Dolphins when they were in the sea nearby.   His 400 x zoom lens put my compact camera to shame
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on August 08, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
Hello everyone

I was in Rhos again today. I posted about the Aberhod on May 27th. At that time there were contractors on site, and I watched the apparently careful removal of a chimney stack.

Today, there seem to be no contractors on site, and all that is left of the Aberhod is a series of walls, one of which is in breezeblock (and thus not original).

Has anyone any idea what is happening? Have the owners or contractors become insolvent?

Take care everyone

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Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2014, 08:58:38 AM
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Hello everyone

I was in Rhos again today. I posted about the Aberhod on May 27th. At that time there were contractors on site, and I watched the apparently careful removal of a chimney stack.

Today, there seem to be no contractors on site, and all that is left of the Aberhod is a series of walls, one of which is in breezeblock (and thus not original).

Has anyone any idea what is happening? Have the owners or contractors become insolvent?

Take care everyone

T
No-one seems to know anything about what's going on. One thing for sure is that they have wrecked that lovely old house.  A shame that someone's greed has left us with this eyesore. &shake&

I remember when I was a child, it was a private house completely hidden from the road by dense shrubbery. I also remember attending an auction of the contents sometime in the 1980s when the person that lived there died.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 11, 2014, 09:11:43 AM
I have been contacted by a member of staff on Aberhod who assures me, although I'm not sure I believe him, everything is on track.

He said: "It was stripped for safety reasons. The roof took a battering from the high winds and so did the masonry. Some of the stone work had become that loose that it too was a safety concern. It will be getting rebuilt and re pointed with the original style lime mortar."

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2014, 09:20:57 AM
Thanks for the update, Tom. The whole thing seems very odd to me.
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Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
Anybody Know the the original history, I (think) I was told, a long time ago, that Aberhod was a farmhouse and Rhos was built on its land.
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Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2014, 10:41:03 AM
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Anybody Know the the original history, I (think) I was told, a long time ago, that Aberhod was a farmhouse and Rhos was built on its land.
That's pretty much correct. A few hundred years ago, Aberhod and the Rhos Fynach were the only buildings in what is now Rhos On Sea. Aberhod used to have very large gardens, these were gradually sold off for development over the years.

The Auction of Aberhod's Contents I referred to earlier was this one:

"On the Instructions of the Executors for the Late Miss Millicent Ford, Aberhod, Cayley Promenade, Rhos-on-Sea, Colwyn Bay, Clwyd: Catalogue of the Contents : Including Eighteenth and Nineteenth Century Furniture and Clocks, Edwardian Satinwood Furniture, Carpets and Rugs, Oriental and European Porcelain, Silver and Plated Ware, Jewellery, Works of Art and Metalwork, Oil Paintings and Watercolours, Two Pianofortes and Garden Ornaments : Sotheby Beresford Adams ... Chester ... in Conjunction with Baddeley & Baddeley ... Colwyn Bay ... Will Sell by Auction at the House on Monday, 17th March 1980"

Norman Tucker's excellent book 'Colwyn Bay - Its Origin & Growth' will have more info, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2014, 10:58:56 AM
Thanks for that D.  Part of what I was told, is that, My great grandmothers family were linked to Aberhod, I do know she lived in the fishermens cottages next the Cayley, and later owned "Ocean View" one of the big houses on the front, were my father was born, I cannot put my hands on the family history for sometime, in storage, but intend to do a bit of research later.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on August 24, 2014, 08:58:09 PM
Thanks everyone

And especially Tom!

Well, I went past a couple of days ago, and nothing much had changed since my last visit. Unless this was in the original scheme, when the development costs will have been calculated, this demolition work must have added considerably to said costs, and perhaps to the viability of the whole scheme. I have a fair amount of experience of development, and this approach - it all fell down in the storms - seems very strange.

Anyway, lets hope the place does get rebuilt, and retains some of its character.

Thanks again

T
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2014, 11:18:22 AM
I'm beginning to get the impression, they are just waiting for more bad weather, to finish what they started.
Looking at it now, and remembering what it looked like, maybe I'm living in the past, but if it is allowed to disappear
it will be a crying shame, and they could get away with it, it's not listed, how could a building built in 1763 with it's history not be listed.
Reading Norman Tuckers book     "Colwyn Bay"          I did not realise how important Rhos was in North Wales, (thank you Dave)  buildings like Aberhod should not end up like this, how many others?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 25, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Steve,  I may be cynical in my old age but I've seen it happen so many times before in this area that I don't trust building companies.  The Penmorfa Hotel in Llandudno is a good example and there have also been a number of listed buildings in the area where the developer has applied to demolish the building to build flats and their application has been refused.    When the application has been turned down the building has mysteriously burnt down and then the CCBC have had no alternative other than to grant permission for the new development to go ahead.
I hope that I am proved wrong but only time will tell.      It's not uncommon for these building firms to use every loophole possible in order that they can maximise profits as can be seen in the local papers on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
Hi Hugo,  I don't think being cynical is a problem, what you say is fact, that's the problem.
I like "character", even when I was younger, I remember being  annoyed when  the chemist on Rhos rd. changed to glass and aluminium, and the ultra modern houses were built on the front by Aberhod.
I think we need some older heads in the planning dept. the whole area has a Victorian/ old fashioned seaside resort feel, which I think draws the visitors, I am not stuck in the past, change is necessary but, needs done sympathetically.

And don't get me started on shop signs..... $angry$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on September 11, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
Developers to discuss TIDAL LAGOON from Rhos point to Rhyl....

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138032/developers-to-discuss-large-scale-tidal-lagoon-from-colwyn-bay-to-rhyl.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138032/developers-to-discuss-large-scale-tidal-lagoon-from-colwyn-bay-to-rhyl.aspx)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 11, 2014, 09:41:51 PM
    If this did come about ---- would that mean that all the sea defence work in Colwyn Bay/Towyn/Kinmel Bay was unnecessary?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on September 11, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
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    If this did come about ---- would that mean that all the sea defence work in Colwyn Bay/Towyn/Kinmel Bay was unnecessary?

No Mike, but it certainly means that the WIND FARM WAS !!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on September 12, 2014, 08:49:11 AM
I doubt anything will come of it - certainly in the short to medium term, but it would be a wonderful opportunity, especially if the actual breakwater were constructed with tourism in mind.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
Ref Live Blog Daily Post

LAGOON: There was a meeting last night about an idea for a lagoon off Colwyn Bay. Early days but we'll watch this space.
Ref David Jones.
V good first meeting in St Paul's church to discuss #ColwynBay tidal lagoon. Lots of potential but lots of good questions. More to come.
9:23 PM - 22 Sep 2014

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on September 25, 2014, 12:50:13 PM
I've just passed a two car pile up on the Promenade by the Aberhod turning,   Police were on the scene and both cars look like economical write offs.
No Ambulances there so I hope that no one is seriously hurt by the crash
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Ref. Daily post...and Hugo
CAR SMASH: Nobody was reported injured after two cars smashed on the promenade at Rhos on Sea by the Aberhod turning. Police were on the scene. It happened at 12.07pm. The cars have now been recovered.
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Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
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Ref Live Blog Daily Post
LAGOON: There was a meeting last night about an idea for a lagoon off Colwyn Bay. Early days but we'll watch this space.
Ref David Jones.
V good first meeting in St Paul's church to discuss #ColwynBay tidal lagoon. Lots of potential but lots of good questions. More to come.
9:23 PM - 22 Sep 2014
Ref. BMD...Colwyn
David Jones MP says: "I'm told a certain cabinet member on @ConwyCBC directed councillors not to attend the #ColwynBay tidal lagoon meeting. Hope that's untrue." And: "If @ConwyCBC can't see the potential benefits of the #ColwynBay tidal lagoon, it's a very sad day."



Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Dave on September 25, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
Plans for eco friendly schemes are being dropped left right and centre at the moment. I can see this one being dropped too.
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Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
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Plans for eco friendly schemes are being dropped left right and centre at the moment. I can see this one being dropped too.

I believe the company has 5 sites in the pipeline .
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Post by: Michael on September 25, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
 IN THE PIPELINE. What pipeline is that?
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Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2014, 11:46:37 PM
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IN THE PIPELINE. What pipeline is that?

"Developers to discuss TIDAL LAGOON from Rhos point to Rhyl"....

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138032/developers-to-discuss-large-scale-tidal-lagoon-from-colwyn-bay-to-rhyl.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138032/developers-to-discuss-large-scale-tidal-lagoon-from-colwyn-bay-to-rhyl.aspx)

Mr Jenkins added: “We remain very encouraged by the enthusiastic support shown to date by local people and very much hope that this will be one of the five full-scale tidal lagoons that we go on to develop after Swansea Bay.”
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on September 26, 2014, 08:36:44 AM
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Plans for eco friendly schemes are being dropped left right and centre at the moment. I can see this one being dropped too.

Sadly, that's true.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2014, 02:13:37 PM
Rhos-on-Sea teddy bears have the Xtra Factor

An award-winning teddy bear company has proved it has the X-factor after supplying cuddly co-stars for the popular talent show and a top TV soap.
The producers of Xtra Factor approached Rhos-on-Sea based Be My Bear to supply the ITV show’s finalists with one of their bespoke bears as a gift to welcome them to the judges’ houses.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-on-sea-teddy-bears-xtra-factor-7933241 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-on-sea-teddy-bears-xtra-factor-7933241)      $good$ $walesflag$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on October 31, 2014, 10:22:07 AM
A WOMAN who unearthed a diary dating back more than 100 years from Rhos-on-Sea hopes to track down the author’s family.
Hilda Sharp, aged 78, of Penrhyn Bay, made photocopies of every page and returned the original to the derelict home on the seafront before it was demolished 35 years ago, and now hopes to hear from any family.
The book chronicles life in Colwyn Bay and the surrounding areas between 1908 and 1916 from the point of view of a young girl called Miranda Dyson.
Mrs Sharp said: “It is just the most interesting book to read.
“I kept the copies in my attic at the time and only recently came across them again.
“It gives some very interesting historical details of the area, references the royals at the time and she talks about these trips she made to London.
“This girl, whoever she was, was obviously from a family that was very well off.
“It seems such a pity that this important piece of local history should just be stuck in my attic.”
Mrs Sharp has kept a binder with copies of each page of the book, which includes mentions of key historical events including the First World War, and returned the original to the property after feeling it was not right to keep it.
She fears it would have been disposed of as scrap after the house was knocked down.
Mrs Sharp added: “It was a huge thing. It was found just stuffed down the side of a very, very old chair in this house.”

Mrs Sharp would like to hear from anyone who thinks they might be related to Miranda Dyson.

She added: “I think she would have been born in about 1894, based on the birthdays it talks about in the diary. There must be someone locally who is related to this woman.”

Anyone with information can contact the Pioneer news team on 01492 523 873.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on October 31, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
In 1911, there was a Miranda H. Dyson living in Myrtle Dene, Llangwstenin. She was well off, as her occupation was described as 'private means'. However, she was 52 in 1911. It's an unusual name, though, so maybe it is the same person. She was born in Liverpool in 1859 and died in Denbighshire in 1936. Her husband was a Schoolmaster called Eli, who came from Oldham, which is where they lived until moving to North Wales in the early 1900s. Their address in Oldham was 26 Belgrave Road. She had a daughter called Irene (born in 1896).
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 04, 2014, 05:37:47 PM
Highcroft nursing home to close with 20 elderly residents to be rehomed and 32 jobs lost.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 06, 2014, 12:20:16 PM
Phone and internet issues throughout Rhos on Sea since Monday night... I've been in touch with BT to find out when it's going to be fixed.

If you've been affected, email me with contact details tom.davidson@trinitymirror.com
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
If your internet isn't working please send me an e mail!

 _))*

  ££$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 06, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
We live in Rhos on Sea, haven't noticed any problem?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
There is a big hole in the middle of Penrhyn Avenue, and two men from the Council are looking into it!
 _))*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 06, 2014, 01:54:10 PM
People have email on their phones... right?


Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
LATEST UPDATE: Openreach have advised that this issue is due to a major incident where a mains electricity cable has exploded. Their engineers are currently on site assessing the damage. At this stage we have no estimated time for restoration.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on November 06, 2014, 07:15:39 PM
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LATEST UPDATE: Openreach have advised that this issue is due to a major incident where a mains electricity cable has exploded. Their engineers are currently on site assessing the damage. At this stage we have no estimated time for restoration.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hundreds-rhos-sea-left-no-8064366 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hundreds-rhos-sea-left-no-8064366)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on November 07, 2014, 07:20:00 AM
Quote
If your internet isn't working please send me an e mail!

Apart from the obvious point of using the 'phone networks, because of the way in which email packets are transmitted they can often get through, even when there are major issues affecting broadband in any area. In this case, however, it does seem as though the entire cabling structure was cut.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on December 11, 2014, 04:59:57 PM
Staff at a Rhos on Sea nursing home were given loans of petty cash before it closed to put food on their own table after a litany of issues with wages.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/closed-rhos-sea-care-staff-8271191 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/closed-rhos-sea-care-staff-8271191)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on January 27, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
This website details plans to revamp the Prom area at Rhos On Sea:
http://www.princemadocproject.org (http://www.princemadocproject.org)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on February 06, 2015, 09:19:52 PM
Work seemed to be on the go this morning at Aberhod , men were putting support pieces for the roof. There appear also to have been a lot of excavations at the rear of the building
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on February 10, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
I've just looked out of the window and there is quite a large ship just off Rhos Point.   It might be a marine survey vessel but I can't make it out with the binoculars
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Gwynant on February 10, 2015, 05:01:37 PM
              According to the Ship AIS website she is named the "Pole Star" and is described as a buoy/lighthouse vessel.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: mull on February 10, 2015, 09:00:02 PM
Oban Based Northern Lighthouse ship.
Was off the Ross Of Mull before the weekend, servicing bouys at south end of Sound of Iona.

Must be helping out Trinity House.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on February 24, 2015, 10:15:59 AM
Hello everyone

I was in Rhos yesterday. Concerning Aberhod - it just seems to be one long saga. Yet more demolition seems to have taken place, and there can't be much left of the original. I suppose one day it will all look fine and the chaos will be a memory.

I was interested in the item about the lost diary, which itself seems to have been lost in a forest of postings! ;D Does anyone know about any further developments with this?

Take care everyone

TL
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on April 13, 2015, 06:48:46 PM
Hello everyone

Gosh - the Aberhod saga continues. I was in Rhos Friday - and now the back walls of the place seem to have been demolished, but there are people on site. It looks like new window openings are being created on the front wall. Whatever happens, there is little left of the original - or indeed later additions?

Anyhow care to hazard a guess as to how much longer before ether the entire remains collapse, or the present works are completed and a reconstructed building emerges?

take care all

T
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2015, 07:15:24 PM
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Hello everyone

Gosh - the Aberhod saga continues. I was in Rhos Friday - and now the back walls of the place seem to have been demolished, but there are people on site. It looks like new window openings are being created on the front wall. Whatever happens, there is little left of the original - or indeed later additions?

Anyhow care to hazard a guess as to how much longer before ether the entire remains collapse, or the present works are completed and a reconstructed building emerges?

take care all

T
It looks terrible, they have ruined one of the oldest buildings in the area.  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on April 13, 2015, 11:32:20 PM
Hi Dave

How I agree with you. I wonder what the final building will look like?!

Regards

T
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 04, 2015, 08:43:25 AM
I see that the last bank in Rhos, the NatWest, is closing. A sign of the times, I suppose.  :(

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/natwest-close-11-north-wales-9386725#rlabs=1 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/natwest-close-11-north-wales-9386725#rlabs=1)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: hollins on June 04, 2015, 09:06:03 AM
...and Abergele, St Asaph and Denbigh. I think that makes the Llandudno one my nearest, 35 mins drive away and it upsets me to even go in that branch when I see what they have done to the interior of it.
That is apart from the fact that there is virtually no service when you finally get there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 04, 2015, 09:21:30 AM
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...and Abergele, St Asaph and Denbigh. I think that makes the Llandudno one my nearest, 35 mins drive away and it upsets me to even go in that branch when I see what they have done to the interior of it.
That is apart from the fact that there is virtually no service when you finally get there.
Is the Ruthin one still open? It's in the old town hall, isnt it, the half timbered building on the Square?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: hollins on June 04, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
Yes, that one doesn't appear on the list yet. A beautiful building. I dread to think what their plans are for that one.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bosun on June 04, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Hollins, I can empathise with your feelings in respect of the Nat West Llandudno. Mrs B needs to go in on a regular basis, the 'automatic' machines only work properly on occasion and the queue to be served at those silly lecterns are ridicules. The last time we were in, a staff member was typing away at a computer in that desk area on the left, I was able to see and read everything that she typed - so much for banking confidentiality! 

Just prior to Christmas, Mrs B complained to the 'wandering assistant' that hangs around the machines about the service; the assistant rolled her eyes with an exasperated face when she thought Mrs B wasn't looking. I, however, was standing a few feet away (the assistant obviously did not think that we were together) and did see and I asked the assistant if she thought that her conduct was acceptable. She just went red and walked off. 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: hollins on June 04, 2015, 10:14:20 AM
That is a disgrace Bosun but only what I have come to expect from there.
I wrote to Nat West complaining about the lack of service with the photos that I took in there recently and posted on here.
This was part of the dismissive reply,

"I am sorry I am unable to agree with your complaint regarding the new style of our Llandudno branch and the services offered. This is because it is a choice the Bank has made in response to customer feedback, as to how customers wish to undertake their banking."


There don't seem to be many people on this forum that wish to undertake their banking in the way that Nat West apparently think we do.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 04, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
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That is a disgrace Bosun but only what I have come to expect from there.
I wrote to Nat West complaining about the lack of service with the photos that I took in there recently and posted on here.
This was part of the dismissive reply,

"I am sorry I am unable to agree with your complaint regarding the new style of our Llandudno branch and the services offered. This is because it is a choice the Bank has made in response to customer feedback, as to how customers wish to undertake their banking."


There don't seem to be many people on this forum that wish to undertake their banking in the way that Nat West apparently think we do.

I would have said excuse me......I think you'll find I am a CUSTOMER. I think you'll find I am giving you FEEDBACK.
The next feedback you will be getting is GOODBYE $angry$
Arrogance of these people beggar's belief!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: hollins on June 04, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
This letter has just arrived to add insult to injury.
How about this comment,

"Don't worry - we'll take care of everything for you
You can continue to use any other branch of Nat West that is convenient to you."

A leaflet is also enclosed on how to use the "helpful banking" at the Post Office.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 04, 2015, 02:46:43 PM
I like how they make it sound like an accident that less people are using the counter service, rather than a manipulated business agenda. Just like supermarkets, we are doing their work for them and so the staff suffer.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 04, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
BANKS CHALLENGED: Plans by NatWest to close three of its branches in Gwynedd - including the only remaining bank in Abersoch - have been challenged by Plaid Cymru MP for Dwyfor Meirionnydd, Liz Saville Roberts. She said: “Feports regarding the future of NatWest branches in Abersoch, Blaenau Ffestiniog and Tywyn are extremely worrying. The impending closure of these branches will be a devastating blow to local residents, and businesses, especially those who cannot drive, the elderly and disabled people."....refDP.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on June 04, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
I seem to recall that Nat West ran an advertising campaign to entice people to bank with them, rather than online banks such as First Direct.   
They made out they are the community bank, a friendly human approach... and they were OPENING MORE branches, with extended hours so that they were a convenient High St experience.

Nothing could be further from the truth.  I don't know how they get away with it.

In my main bank, The Halifax, every week they try to coerce me to use the paying in machines, and every week I firmly and politely refuse.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 04, 2015, 09:52:01 PM
  My favourite thread having grown up in Rhos on Sea.  Living in a bank flat over one of the SIX banks in Rhos at that time. Four in Everard Road.   The only one not represented was Williams Deacons.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
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I seem to recall that Nat West ran an advertising campaign to entice people to bank with them, rather than online banks such as First Direct.   
They made out they are the community bank, a friendly human approach... and they were OPENING MORE branches, with extended hours so that they were a convenient High St experience.

Nothing could be further from the truth.  I don't know how they get away with it.
I remember that, too.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2101380/Watchdog-bans-misleading-NatWest-adverts-promising-stay-local-shuts-rural-branches.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2101380/Watchdog-bans-misleading-NatWest-adverts-promising-stay-local-shuts-rural-branches.html)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on June 11, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
I see that Geordies garage (or Spar) has closed down. I believe that it is to  :oopen in October as a Co Op but without the petrol forecourt.

To my mind that makes three co ops between penrhyn Bay and Rhos..... :o
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2015, 11:49:08 AM
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I see that Geordies garage (or Spar) has closed down. I believe that it is to  :oopen in October as a Co Op but without the petrol forecourt.

To my mind that makes three co ops between penrhyn Bay and Rhos..... :o
I saw that it was all fenced off yesterday, thought they were installing new pumps. Shame if they lose the petrol station.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Mikethewatch on June 11, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
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I see that Geordies garage (or Spar) has closed down. I believe that it is to  :oopen in October as a Co Op but without the petrol forecourt.

To my mind that makes three co ops between penrhyn Bay and Rhos..... :o

I always avoided buying fuel there as there was no dedicated till for fuel.
Got fed up waiting behind half a dozen people doing the weekly shop, to pay
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 11, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
  Sorry Mike the watch but this applies in virtually all the non-supermarket fuel outlets. Even the mega big motorway ones. They just cannot afford the staff to man the till for one car very 15 minutes.
  I'm sorry about this, it stirs up very unhappy memories. I go back to Neville Bannister. Garage owner of this site going back to around 1948. Far side of Glan Conwy on the left you still see an operating garage called "Nevs Garage." The same man. He owned them both.
  His Son was roughly the same age as me. And like a lot o f us, collecting seagulls eggs was the craze of the time. I lived to tell the tale. Neville's Son, I cannot remember his name, didn't. Killed falling off rocks on either the Little or Great Orme. His Father never got over this, he took it very badly. Running garages were the last thing on his mind.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: white rabbit on June 11, 2015, 08:26:40 PM
Mike - wasn't his son called Barney Bannister and wasn't it the Little Orme??  Can't really remember
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 11, 2015, 08:48:41 PM
 No, I don't remember his name nor where. I THINK he was probably a bit younger than me. Mind you, nowadays, everyone is a bit younger than me
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on June 12, 2015, 08:44:20 AM
Thanks Ormegolf.  Reference to the garage jogged some cogs.  I think Neville owned small chain of garages, usually named after family members - there was another in Glan Conwy - Pat's Garage - still there but sells cars now.  There was one in Tyn y Groes opposite the Red Lion and another in Tal y Bont.  One was called Maggy's but I don't recall the other.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2015, 09:06:09 AM
Speaking of garages, I was in Rhos the other day and reminded of two garages that disappeared in the 80s(?) but which were definitely there when I was a kid.

First one was on the corner of Church Drive and Penrhyn Avenue.

Second one was next to the park on Penrhyn Avenue.

I've attached photos of the locations below, both now house blocks of flats.

Maybe Mike or Cambrian can remember a little more about them?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on June 12, 2015, 10:14:58 AM
Gwyn still has his garage behind there on cranford crescent, Penrhyn Service station.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Gwynant on June 12, 2015, 10:19:21 AM
              There was also a garage and filling station on the corner of Penrhyn Ave and Colwyn Ave where the Spar is now Dave. It was known as Rhos County Garage and I think was owned by the Wooller family, one of whom was Wilf Wooller who played international rugby for Wales in the 1930's and also cricket for Glamorgan.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 12, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
We live just down the road from Georges / Spar shop, I did occasionally get fuel there, usually if off to a classic car show early in the morning!  We were told  today that it will be a Co op, but with no petrol station. They  are currently dismantling  the petrol station and staff were loading stock into a Spar truck this morning.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 12, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
I remember Rhos County Garage, from the 50/60s ......My Father started work there in 1938 and returned after the war in 46, for a short period....... as Gwynant said before, owned by W. Wooller there were also a family called Clark who lived there.

Hope this works, .......my Fathers letter of reference from the garage dated 16th Nov. 1946.....
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 12, 2015, 05:59:57 PM
  In reply to DaveR. Daihardwelshman has settled the Penrhyn Service Station. Its still in the same place, its just that the flats were built between it and Penrhyn Avenue so it is hidden. The flats were built on a concrete platform which was the home for Cromwell tanks and Self-propelled guns which were used for training the Gunners before off to North Africa. As to the other site, as far as I know it was never a "garage" as such. It was owned by Pyes coaches in their prime. All the maintenance on all the fleet, which was extensive , was done here and there would have been fuel pumps installed.
   Pyes went into serious decline and at some stage they moved the maintenance, such little as there was, up to Princes Drive in the Bay. Presumably the buildings were pulled down and the land sold. There must have been a long period of time between moving out and the flats being built. I don't know what, if anything, went on there during this time.
  Just out of interest around 20 years ago the grandson of the "old man" Jonnie Pye showed me a folder of very nice original black and white photos of the Pye empire from immediately after the war period. One he proudly showed was a six in hand stagecoach with all the immaculate horses plus a trumpeter (or whatever they are called) riding up front, the driver, the stagecoach, and Jonnie Pye himself in black top hat and tails standing alongside.  Jessie, the grandson, said to me "this was taken in Princes Drive." I looked at it and immediately I knew he was wrong. Clearly in the photo there was a tram standard, quite unmistakable, so it had to be alongside the tram route. I told him, sorry, Jess, I know more about your family than you do. The was taken outside the garage in Penrhyn Avenue. Big laughs all round.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 13, 2015, 10:43:53 AM
Tidal lagoon between Rhos on Sea and Prestatyn would be 'much larger' than Swansea project

A TIDAL lagoon between Rhos on Sea and Prestatyn would be 'much larger' than the project given the go ahead in Swansea last week.
Tidal Lagoon Power has been granted planning permission by the Energy Secretary Amber Rudd for the world’s first ever tidal lagoon energy project to be built in Swansea Bay by British company Tidal Lagoon Power.

Tidal Lagoon Power has been undertaking early feasibility and consultation work for nearly two years for the Colwyn Bay scheme and in March the £30million plan was one of six lagoon sites based throughout the country shortlisted for development.
The lagoon would stretch from Rhos Point and Prestatyn.

David Jones, Clwyd West MP, said: “I am very pleased that the Swansea lagoon has been given the go-ahead by the Government.

“There is considerable interest in the Colwyn Bay proposal, which would be for a much larger lagoon, with a projected generating capacity several times that of Wylfa nuclear power station.

"It would bring employment to Colwyn Bay, provide energy security for the whole country, and act as a line of coastal defence. It therefore deserves serious consideration.

“I had a meeting with one of the proposed developers last week, and will be meeting another group in the next few days.”
A spokesman for Tidal Lagoon Power said: "A Tidal Lagoon in Colwyn Bay is a huge opportunity for North Wales.

"Not only can we harness the power of the tides to generate low-carbon electricity, we can also deliver a range of economic, social and environmental benefits to the region.

"Early feasibility and consultation work has been underway for nearly two years in Colwyn Bay. We remain very encouraged by the enthusiastic support shown to date by local people and very much hope that this will be one of the five full-scale tidal lagoons that we go on to develop after Swansea Bay."

When fully constructed the Swansea tidal lagoon will have an installed capacity of 320 megawatts, enough to generate renewable electricity to power 155,000 homes.
REF NWpioneer
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 14, 2015, 07:51:12 PM
  In reply to SteveH's post a couple of days ago re Rhos County Garage. The Clark family you mention. Brian Clark was in school with me, in the Scouts with me, we both went out with the same girl (he eventually married her so I'm not sure who was the winner!!!). His Father was to all effects in charge of the garage, and they lived in part of the building between the workshops and the car salesrooms. Oh, and by the way, it wasn't where the Spar is now. It was to the right of the Spar building. The Spar was J.Irwins Grocers, a very large, probably the largest, grocers in North Wales at that time. Eventually taken over by Tesco who I guess closed it down at some time.
  Brian was very successful in his job as a telephone engineer and went quite high up the promotion ladder. The last I heard of him he lived close to the Rhos parish church.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 14, 2015, 08:19:06 PM
Thanks for that Mike.... $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
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I remember Rhos County Garage, from the 50/60s ......My Father started work there in 1938 and returned after the war in 46, for a short period....... as Gwynant said before, owned by W. Wooller there were also a family called Clark who lived there.

Hope this works, .......my Fathers letter of reference from the garage dated 16th Nov. 1946.....
I seem to remember it was an Audi Dealer back in the 1980s? Found this aerial pic of it from back then:

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Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
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  In reply to DaveR. Daihardwelshman has settled the Penrhyn Service Station. Its still in the same place, its just that the flats were built between it and Penrhyn Avenue so it is hidden. The flats were built on a concrete platform which was the home for Cromwell tanks and Self-propelled guns which were used for training the Gunners before off to North Africa. As to the other site, as far as I know it was never a "garage" as such. It was owned by Pyes coaches in their prime. All the maintenance on all the fleet, which was extensive , was done here and there would have been fuel pumps installed.
   Pyes went into serious decline and at some stage they moved the maintenance, such little as there was, up to Princes Drive in the Bay. Presumably the buildings were pulled down and the land sold. There must have been a long period of time between moving out and the flats being built. I don't know what, if anything, went on there during this time.
  Just out of interest around 20 years ago the grandson of the "old man" Jonnie Pye showed me a folder of very nice original black and white photos of the Pye empire from immediately after the war period. One he proudly showed was a six in hand stagecoach with all the immaculate horses plus a trumpeter (or whatever they are called) riding up front, the driver, the stagecoach, and Jonnie Pye himself in black top hat and tails standing alongside.  Jessie, the grandson, said to me "this was taken in Princes Drive." I looked at it and immediately I knew he was wrong. Clearly in the photo there was a tram standard, quite unmistakable, so it had to be alongside the tram route. I told him, sorry, Jess, I know more about your family than you do. The was taken outside the garage in Penrhyn Avenue. Big laughs all round.
Thanks for the info, Mike. I remember Pyes Coaches well, went on many a school trip with them. When they sold their Princes Drive site, they moved to a piece of land by the Crematorium in Mochdre, an open site that ensured the coaches got regularly vandalised.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
Rhos on sea to me is sentimental nostalgia, childhood memories, a charm all of it's own.....looking around now at some of the shop signage, I cannot believe the level it has reached, vulgar springs to mind,.... who allows this,is there no control................Rhyl on Sea.... :(....... $angry$ ...... &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2015, 02:17:03 PM
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Rhos on sea to me is sentimental nostalgia, childhood memories, a charm all of it's own.....looking around now at some of the shop signage, I cannot believe the level it has reached, vulgar springs to mind,.... who allows this,is there no control................Rhyl on Sea.... :(....... $angry$ ...... &shake&

But you've not noticed a similar trend in Llandudno Steve??   ?{}? ?{}? *&(
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
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Rhos on sea to me is sentimental nostalgia, childhood memories, a charm all of it's own.....looking around now at some of the shop signage, I cannot believe the level it has reached, vulgar springs to mind,.... who allows this,is there no control................Rhyl on Sea....
But you've not noticed a similar trend in Llandudno Steve?? 

Of course I have, Fester, and I've said so in the past as part of a long list of changes I would like to see in Llandudno, but Rhos being my "ancestral" home and being much smaller than Llandudno, the problem to me stands out.
The businesses need to get together and sort it out, Conwy did it a few years ago, and as Rhos will be part of the new Colwyn Bay BID, now is the perfect opportunity to do so.

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 20, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
 Vulgar signage in Rhos? I don't believe it.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 20, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
  Just for historical reasons, incase anyone is misled in 100 yrs  time regarding the decline and fall of Pyes coaches. DaveR refers to the plot of land by the creme where the remains of this once proud fleet spent their last days. They didn't move there AFTER the Princes drive site was sold. They moved before, and for a very short time operated both in a haphazard fashion.
   The reason for the move was Jessie, who by that time was the only remaining member of the family, was a drinking partner with a Bill Dodd who was a market trader and had a shop in Abergele Road. He had run a sunday market at Plas Coch in Anglesea so knew a bit
 about it, and he and Jessie decided to use the Princes Drive land as a market. I think twice a week. So no room for coaches. The original booking office was still there and still used by Pyes. If you could get in through the rubbish.
  The final end came suddenly. They held an auction of all the old buses. I was there. A few pounds changed hands, probably not enough to pay the auctioneer. We all went back to the booking office and Jessie opened some mail. One was tax or VAT or something, well into the thousands. I remember him burying his head in his hands and saying now what can I do?
 Shortly afterwards the A55 development arrived, took a lot of the land, refused to let Jessie have a small parcel of land which was his because they wanted it to provide visual shrubbery for A55 users. Its still there, driving West come out of the tunnel and look up to your left. You will see a few bushes. That broke Jessies heart. That was the final straw.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on June 20, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
Hello everyone!

Well, I've been to Rhos today - torrential rain around Flint, but then sunshine as I arrived there. I think the place is looking up, frankly - had lunch in a nice new café, very pleasant. And the second hand bookshop is still there!

As is....well, here I go again. What on earth is going on with THAT building formerly known as Aberhod? The latest seems to be that the top parts of the gables seem to have been removed and replaced in new materials. I have some knowledge of property development and the approach to this scheme, such as it is, has been weird. it seems to have been going on slowly for ages, with a roof on and then off, bits built up and taken down....very strange.

Has anyone any idea when this scheme might be completed, and what it will look like?

Take care all

T
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2015, 09:22:50 AM
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Hello everyone!

Well, I've been to Rhos today - torrential rain around Flint, but then sunshine as I arrived there. I think the place is looking up, frankly - had lunch in a nice new café, very pleasant. And the second hand bookshop is still there!

As is....well, here I go again. What on earth is going on with THAT building formerly known as Aberhod? The latest seems to be that the top parts of the gables seem to have been removed and replaced in new materials. I have some knowledge of property development and the approach to this scheme, such as it is, has been weird. it seems to have been going on slowly for ages, with a roof on and then off, bits built up and taken down....very strange.

Has anyone any idea when this scheme might be completed, and what it will look like?

Take care all

T
It's the most bizarre building project I've ever seen. Very little of the original building now remains, a real shame.  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
The former HSBC in Rhos is now the 'Red Sails' Tapas Bar:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 26, 2015, 12:06:03 PM
Is there anything that isn't becoming a tapas bar these days?  :o

I'm scared to leave my house in the morning in case that turns into a tapas bar whilst I'm gone!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on June 26, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
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Is there anything that isn't becoming a tapas bar these days?  :o

I'm scared to leave my house in the morning in case that turns into a tapas bar whilst I'm gone!

If it does, I will only give it a try if it bans hoodies, trainers, prams etc.... and Celtic fans.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 26, 2015, 12:33:56 PM
You're forgetting the poor Doggys that also get banned under Basil's regime at the snooze  L0L
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on June 26, 2015, 12:42:25 PM
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You're forgetting the poor Doggys that also get banned under Basil's regime at the snooze  L0L

... and rightly so!   I don't want slavering mutts around me when dining out either.

People on here moan when there are not enough 'quality establishments', but then complain again when a policy is brought in to ensure that a pleasant customer experience is assured.
The Snooze Bar is the ONLY place which was relatively full when I went around the bars last night.  They seem to have hit on the right policy.
The people on the list are most welcome to frequent The Carlton, Town House etc...   Whats the problem?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 26, 2015, 01:37:25 PM
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You're forgetting the poor Doggys that also get banned under Basil's regime at the snooze  L0L

... and rightly so!   I don't want slavering mutts around me when dining out either.

People on here moan when there are not enough 'quality establishments', but then complain again when a policy is brought in to ensure that a pleasant customer experience is assured.
The Snooze Bar is the ONLY place which was relatively full when I went around the bars last night.  They seem to have hit on the right policy.
The people on the list are most welcome to frequent The Carlton, Town House etc...   Whats the problem?

'relatively' full wannabe snobs no doubt! The policy does not 'ensure' any kind of pleasant customer experience at all, it purely and simply discriminates
Those pleasant chaps at the Bullingdon club were always smartly kitted out and loved fine dining, also loved to smash up restaurants to.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oxford-university-bullingdon-club-wed-4305702 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oxford-university-bullingdon-club-wed-4305702)

Anyway this is not really about Rhos on Sea, so we better stop before we send the admin into a screaming fit  L0L
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on June 26, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
B2R, I suggest that you go into The Snooze one evening......  then from there go to The Carlton or Townhouse.

Only then will you understand the meaning of a difference in atmosphere and ambiance.

You know me well, do I strike you as a 'wannabe snob'?
I am equally at home in any of those environments, but sometimes you just need to aspire to something a little better than the bargain basement pubs.

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: born2run on June 26, 2015, 02:19:50 PM
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B2R, I suggest that you go into The Snooze one evening......  then from there go to The Carlton or Townhouse.

Only then will you understand the meaning of a difference in atmosphere and ambiance.

You know me well, do I strike you as a 'wannabe snob'?
I am equally at home in any of those environments, but sometimes you just need to aspire to something a little better than the bargain basement pubs.

I enjoy the Castle in Conwy, it's a lovely place, great food and cracking Belguim beer (at over £4 a pint might I add  Z**)
So I'm not averse to a classy establishment. But it's interesting they, and EVERY other place pretty much in the country I can think of don't feel the need for a silly sign outside.

Snooze bar - Snooty bar more like _))* ZXZ

You're not a wannabe snob Fester but here is an example of one of the wannabe snobs i found on TA

'Called in here for lunch the other day. They know what type of customers they want and clearly state it on the board outside. No chavs, beach wear, dogs or buggies. Brilliant! '

'I just hope Llandudno is ready for a bar like Snooze'
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on July 02, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
Motorists have lucky escape in Rhos on Sea accident

Four people had a lucky escape when this red car rolled down an embankment and overturned.

The Peugeot 207 left the road after colliding with a parked car on Marine Drive in Rhos on Sea at about 8.30pm last night, but a man and a woman got out of the car virtually unscathed.
Witness Jonny Williams, 42, and his friend Paul Joinson had been standing and chatting behind Paul’s silver Mazda, and had to jump out of the way.

Jonny, a professional photographer, said: “We were standing at the back of Paul’s silver Mazda and planning to photograph some lightning. We were umming and ahing about where to go.
“Suddenly, Paul grabbed me and pulled me away from the back of his car.

“This car went straight into the back of his and flipped over.”

MORE and PHOTOS...http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-lucky-escape-rhos-sea-9574517 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-lucky-escape-rhos-sea-9574517)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SDQ on July 02, 2015, 05:04:45 PM
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Motorists have lucky escape in Rhos on Sea accident

Four people had a lucky escape when this red car rolled down an embankment and overturned..”

MORE and PHOTOS...http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-lucky-escape-rhos-sea-9574517 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-lucky-escape-rhos-sea-9574517)


Jonny Williams? Isn't that Hugo's mate, Tellytubby?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on July 02, 2015, 05:34:30 PM
Going uphill a bit quick?......took some skill to roll a car at no more than 30mph......thank goodness nobody was walking there. A black spot has been established in view of the destruction to the building at that spot(going the other way......some time ago).

A speed camera is required there in stead of at the open road at the Cayley Embankment or the Golf Club not more than 30 seconds away.....discuss!

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on July 27, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
Rhos-on-Sea Co-operative store opening to be delayed

Food group Co-operative have had to re-submit plans to demolish a petrol garage in Rhos-on-Sea - with the opening date for a new supermarket now expected to be pushed back.
Work to remove the garage facilities started earlier this year at the Llandudno Road Texaco garage and convenience store known locally as 'Geordie’s Garage'.
But it was then discovered that the demolition permission - secured by the site vendor - did not cover all the facilities and a retrospective application has now had to be submitted.

Co-op have also submitted a fresh application to secure the change of use for the flat above the old Spar shop.
They had originally hoped to open the new £750,000 store in late summer but this date has now been put back to the autumn.
A spokesman said: "Planning has been approved for a rear extension and removal of the pump island.

"Plans for the removal of one pump island only were submitted by the vendor so retrospective planning was required to ensure that the re-development of the site meets with all planning requirements. In addition, the flat, also required a change of use application.

"Decommissioning a petrol filling station needs to be undertaken safety and correctly, structural engineers are on site, work is progressing, and we expect to see more of the physical work start as we approach mid-August.
"This is a large project and so we are continuing to liaise and work with Conwy Borough Council to ensure that the development meets with all planning regulations and requirements.
"It is hoped that the new-look store will serve the community from this Autumn."

A Conwy council spokeswoman said: "A retrospective planning application for the demolition of the petrol station canopy and alterations to the shop unit is currently being assessed.
"We will consider and review the situation following the outcome of this application."

Talking about coming to the site, a spokesman for the Co-op had previously said: “It’s a good site for us and it will be an investment of around £750,000 to develop a convenience store with a sales area of approximately 2,500 sq ft.
“Extending the existing store on the site, four new jobs are expected to be created at the store."
The garage’s closure means the loss of the only fuel station in Rhos on Sea with drivers now having to travel to Llandudno or Colwyn Bay...........REF DP.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 27, 2015, 12:14:25 PM
I wondered why it had gone quiet there! It has all been tarmaced now, not a very good job either, they have mostly just covered over the old block paving, I can't see it lasting too long!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on July 27, 2015, 08:35:38 PM
Quote "drivers having to travel to c b or llandudno for fuel" What about the Gulf at the bottom of the hill in Penrhyn Bay?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2015, 08:53:06 AM
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Quote "drivers having to travel to c b or llandudno for fuel" What about the Gulf at the bottom of the hill in Penrhyn Bay?
One of the few petrol stations still offering attendant service!  $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2015, 06:37:15 PM
DOLPHIN: The coastguard say they were called to reports of a beached dolphin near the harbour at Rhos on Sea about an hour ago. By the time they got there, it had been put back in the water.

The coastugard say they expect it to beach itself again soon as it may have the smell of humans on it and could be rejected by its mum.
REFDP
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
Rhino relocation to Rhos-on-Sea triggers police appeal

The relocation of a giant model rhino to Hickory’s Smokehouse in Rhos-on-Sea triggered a police appeal.
Otis the rhino had been stood outside Hickory’s restaurant in Chester for four years until bosses decided it was time for him to have a break by the seaside in North Wales.

Unfortunately they had not told the whole team at the Chester restaurant and when a waitress noticed the flame covered Otis was gone on Wednesday night.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhino-hickorys-chester-rhos-sea-9805390 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhino-hickorys-chester-rhos-sea-9805390) &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 27, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
Rhos on Sea rotarians to honour Welsh prince with Bank Holiday voyage
INTREPID Rotarians will follow in the footsteps of one of Wales’ greatest explorers with a Bank Holiday voyage.

Legend has it that the Welsh Prince, Madoc sailed from the ancient harbour of Rhos-on-Sea in the year 1169 and, heading west, discovered America long before Christopher Columbus in the 16th Century.
It is said that, following the death of his father Owain Gwynedd ap Gruffydd, Prince of Gwynedd, he and his brother Riryd, set out for the new world in two small ships and made landfall near Mobile, Alabama, USA, in 1170.
A plaque at Fort Morgan records his arrival there.

In 2009 the Rotary Club of Rhos-on-Sea, in celebration of his great achievement, first entered the Chester Raft Race with a longship lookalike named after the prince.
Since then it has had several outings on Llandudno and Rhos promenades, helping raise cash for local charities, but has not yet ventured to sea.

This Monday, August 31 the Prince Madoc will sail again from Rhos Harbour and head to Porth Eirias.
The journey starts at 11am and should end on Porth Eirias beach at 12.30pm.
A club spokesman, said: “The Rotary Club is not only aiming to increase the awareness of the Prince Madoc legend but trying to raise funds for local charities, particularly St David’s Hospice.

“To hear the full Prince Madoc story just turn up at Porth Eirias on Bank holiday Monday and, if you like the story, chuck a few coins in the sailors buckets.”

The group hope to make the voyage an annual event and discussions are ongoing for a new Sea Carnival along the shore.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/152010/rhos-on-sea-rotarians-to-honour-welsh-prince-with-bank-holiday-voyage.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/152010/rhos-on-sea-rotarians-to-honour-welsh-prince-with-bank-holiday-voyage.aspx)

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: wally on September 17, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
The Co-op have withdrawn their planning application for the conversion of Geordies. Does anyone have any more information?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2015, 08:43:47 AM
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The Co-op have withdrawn their planning application for the conversion of Geordies. Does anyone have any more information?
Maybe they are modifying their application, perhaps?

This was the latest news I could find online:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-sea-co-operative-store-9714462 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-sea-co-operative-store-9714462)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: wally on September 18, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
That's probably it, Dave.

The reason for my question was that the story appeared in the Post on the 27th July but the planning application wasn't withdrawn until the 7th Sept. I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that there had been further developments.

 Things seem to be moving very slowly, in contrast with the speed with which Geordies was closed down.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 18, 2015, 07:59:29 PM
  I hope for the Coops sake this is not the case. However ---- I have seen over the years a few petrol filling stations closed down permanently and I have vaguely noticed that after all the buildings pumps etc are cleared away what looks like some type of filters are drilled down into the ground presumably where the storage tanks once were. Above ground they are only a foot or two high and look like vents. And they stay there a very long time. Not months, more like years. One example was the ex Esso site on the left as you enter Rhyl from the blue bridge. The main area, the fair and downtown club etc were cleared and boarded up, as they still are. But where the Esso was it was just protected with mesh nettings and you could see these vents. Don't ask me how long but its certainly two years and maybe 3 or 4. Its only fairly recently been boarded up with the rest of the land.
   Does this mean that land which held petrol storage pumps has to be ventilated before it can return to normal use? If so, Rhos is going to have a long wait for their local coop.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on September 28, 2015, 09:03:06 PM
   Aberhod. is coming along nicely thank you very much.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2015, 09:30:47 AM
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   Aberhod. is coming along nicely thank you very much.
...at long last! They must have been working on that site for getting on for three years now.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on October 17, 2015, 08:27:19 PM
 Aberhod. DaveR is correct that the work there has been going on for 3 years. But you wouldn't believe it now. There has visually been more done in the last three weeks than in the previous three years, and it really is looking very nice.
 So it looks as if the previous 3 yrs has been spent fighting planning, maybe legal disputes, getting permissions off goodness knows who, and general paper work and having to change their plans, change of use etc.
  I not too sure I should write this because I have no idea whether it is correct or not. Its just a possible guess. A change of the main contractors for whatever reason?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on October 19, 2015, 09:03:24 AM
Here's a story from the Daily Post which should evoke some strong feelings :

"A pensioner’s determination to feed the birds in her garden has made life a misery for neighbours, a court was told.

Each morning flocks of pigeons, jackdaws and seagulls descend on Brenda Hawkins’ lawn and wall when she puts out her seed mixture and other food. The birds’ droppings soil her neighbours’ washing hanging on the lines, their cars are continually splattered and they feel threatened by “divebombing” birds.

“There are sometimes 80-100 large birds, mainly pigeons and the noise of the jackdaws is horrendous,” said Linda Jones, anti-social behaviour officer with Conwy County Borough Council.

Speaking at Llandudno magistrates’ court on Saturday, she said that 74-year-old Hawkins had refused to accept advice about merely using a bird feeder which would be inaccessible to larger birds.

Hawkins, of Brookfield Drive, Rhos-on-Sea, pleaded not guilty to comply with a Community Protection Notice (CPN) served on her in June, a step which was taken after previous attempts to persuade her to reduce the nuisance had failed.

Prosecutor Julia Longworth said that CPNs were introduced last year to deal with conduct considered detrimental to the quality of life through unreasonable behaviour.
'My conscience is clear'

Linda Jones said she became aware of the problem in May 2014, and Hawkins was written to in July of that year, but she continued to feed the birds. She ignored advice and when told in April this year she could face legal action Hawkins replied: “I’ll go to jail first.”

Diane Fredman, whose garden in Cambrian Drive backs onto the Hawkins’ garden, said she moved into the area six years ago to enjoy retirement.

“We have not been able to do so because of the number of birds,” she said. Asked if the situation had improved since the CPN was served on Hawkins in June, she replied: “They are still there every day, the same volume and mess. It is very stressful.”

Hawkins said: “I think pigeons are wonderful birds and they don’t make a mess. They cannot defecate when they are flying."

Full story:  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-pensioner-fined-refusing-stop-10285184#rlabs=4%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-pensioner-fined-refusing-stop-10285184#rlabs=4%20rt)$category%20p$1
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 19, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
This is near us, thankfully does not involve us. There is another side to the story that sadly has not been reported, the usual story of New people moving in and not liking what is already there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: llewelyn on October 19, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
I had a similar problem in Conwy, the lady would throw food onto her flat roof twice a day, the noise and mess was unbearable, also, as many rats live within the walls of the town, they were also turning up. I did ask her to stop to no avail, so asked the council to help, an official visited and thank goodness the feeding stopped.  one other neighbor feeds the birds using a bird feeder, so only small birds attend, the rats still visit occasionally to pick up the seed the birds drop.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2016, 08:25:25 PM

Thefts from vehicles and sheds in Penrhyn Bay and Rhos on Sea


http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/158030/thefts-from-vehicles-and-sheds-in-penrhyn-bay-and-rhos-on-sea.aspx#.Vq--sH7VA8c.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/158030/thefts-from-vehicles-and-sheds-in-penrhyn-bay-and-rhos-on-sea.aspx#.Vq--sH7VA8c.email)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on March 05, 2016, 09:36:23 PM
On the beach this afternoon, about 6 feet long, it looks like a Porpoise to me.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on March 08, 2016, 10:32:07 AM
Hi Neil, how sad! Can the Daily Post use this picture please?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on March 08, 2016, 02:53:10 PM
Hi Tom, Yes The Daily Post can use my picture.
Regards Neil.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on March 09, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
Very rough! in Rhos on Sea harbour, this morning.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Lyndylou on March 09, 2016, 03:01:45 PM
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-captures-boat-dashed-rocks-11014851 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-captures-boat-dashed-rocks-11014851)

Boat on rocks Rhos, video
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 17, 2016, 08:49:44 PM


Odstone had been on sale for quite a while but now looks like it has been sold and a serious amount of work has been carried out on the garden recently.   It has a very large front garden but if I remember correctly from my golfing days the back garden is very small indeed and backs on to the Golfcourse.

 Odstone was conceived by Manchester architect, Henry Goldsmith in 1912. He designed and built a house as stunning and awe inspiring as its surroundings and history in an old colonial style.

"Odstone is a truly magical house with gardens that hold their own secrets and a myriad of rooms that whisper through the long corridors of time. Odstone is a chance to buy a piece of history, to lovingly restore a still beautiful old home back to it‘s former glory .

Beautifully conceived and laid out, the house was lovingly designed with 4 large bedrooms, large kitchen, dining areas, a stunning sun terrace overlooking the golf course, a wrap around veranda for 360 degree views and with grounds and gardens. There are some ‘secret living quarters’ on the ground floor and surprises at every twist and turn. The driveway is formed on an old pier wall where Legend has it that Prince Madoc sailed from here in 1170 and landed in Mobile, Alabama.

A Bronze plaque placed on the rockery commemorate this voyage and his great find, a story which has intrigued historians for decades!"

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2016, 08:35:20 AM
I thought it sad that a number of mature pine trees were cut down as part of the garden clearance. They can be seen in the left hand of the 'before' photo below:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 18, 2016, 10:25:26 AM
Such a shame to see it like that, I expect demolision will be next, then houses or flats!  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 18, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
It's funny that you say that ME because I hadn't thought of that and I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to builders and planning applications.
When I have opposed planning applications before I've always made sure that tree preservations (TPO's)  are in place whenever appropriate.
In this case there are now no trees to have TPO's so have the owners of the property jumped the gun and chopped the trees down before the planning application is submitted to CCBC?
Watch this space because you may well be correct because it has been done already on property adjoining the golf course.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 18, 2016, 11:00:37 PM
I've had a look at the CCBC Planning website but could see no planning application for Odstone, but that is not to say that there won't be one in the future.
Thinking more about what you have said ME,  I was surprised at the way the trees and bushes had indiscriminately been hacked down.  There didn't seem to be any possible way of the garden being sympathetically landscaped in the future.
If there is to be a planning application then that will come later, they may even allow the building to deteriorate like they did at the Penmorfa Hotel in Llandudno and then it'll be easy to obtain planning permission for the demolition of it.
I don't know who has bought the house which had been up for sale for a very long time but if a company has bought it then you know what's coming next.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2016, 09:51:29 AM
I am in agreement with you Hugo, As we have passed over the last couple of weeks we had the opinion that things were going a step too far. I know that the place was overgrown, had been for years, but........................ It has now lost all the charisma of olden times which it certainly had.
As a child, on holiday, we stayed at one of the houses very near to it which was then an hotel. Thus we often walked past.. when a lot of the road was unmade and the toll booth was there and always used to gaze in through the gates.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2016, 10:58:01 AM
I knew a couple who lived near me and they told me that they had rented that property while they were searching for a house in Colwyn Bay.  The owner of the property was an Irish man who lived in Dublin.
He must have bought the house on a whim because his wife refused to move from Dublin so eventually he sold it.

Builders will try anything to get to their objective and the Penmorfa Hotel in Llandudno is a classic example of what they are prepared to do
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 19, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
It appeared on a local Facebook group a few days ago, sadly it seemed pretty certsin what it's fate is, a great shame, terrible seeing the trees hacked down a few weeks ago!  :-[
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: spotty dog on March 19, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
Odstone has been on the market for over 2 years now plenty  of time for all the complainants  to stomp up some money and by it.There was a time when houses like these were  in demand but not anymore, options ?turn it into a guest house ,flats,or a very high end residence which to comply with current  building regs would require  such  alterations  the current character of the building would  be destroyed. No its time is up unfortunately as i have fond memories  of the house .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2016, 06:54:52 PM
I was walking my dog tonight and met a friend and during our conversation we discussed Odstone.   I knew that Robin Jones had owned the Golf Course and has done a lot of work to improve it but according to my friend Robin had now sold the club.
My friend advised me that the person who bought the Golf Club also bought Odstone so if that is correct, and I have no proof that it is, then it would be a prime site for development into a hotel or such like for the Golf Club
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on March 20, 2016, 01:14:25 AM
That might not be such a bad thing Hugo,  the house is dilapidated and the golf course is quite poor, any improvement in that area might not be a disaster
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 20, 2016, 01:33:15 PM
Robin Jones did a good job of improving the Golf Course and the club house and if the new owners continue with improvements then it could be a good thing for the club and the area in general.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2016, 05:14:50 PM
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Robin Jones did a good job of improving the Golf Course and the club house and if the new owners continue with improvements then it could be a good thing for the club and the area in general.
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That might not be such a bad thing Hugo,  the house is dilapidated and the golf course is quite poor, any improvement in that area might not be a disaster

Both your comments have cheered me up, I was being very pessimistic, and thinking the worst, we can only hope for the best.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 20, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Seaside 18-hole golf club for sale in North Wales with its own HOTEL

Set within 99 acres of parkland, the Rhos-on-Sea Golf Club & Hotel in Llandudno, Wales, comes complete with a two-storey clubhouse with function rooms, a bar and 15 bedrooms.

Read the full story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3378773/Fancy-buying-late-Christmas-present-18-hole-golf-course-complete-clubhouse-HOTEL-sale-Wales-1m.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3378773/Fancy-buying-late-Christmas-present-18-hole-golf-course-complete-clubhouse-HOTEL-sale-Wales-1m.html)

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
OK I am up for that......anybody interested in the other £949.000..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
Planning application has been submitted for Odstone to be demolished and replaced by 12 apartments.  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
C'est la Guerre...
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
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Planning application has been submitted for Odstone to be demolished and replaced by 12 apartments.  &shake&

A great shame, but putting nostalgia aside, a block of 12 apartments in that area also seems wrong?

Can the ground take this size of building, bearing in mind the old river course?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 28, 2016, 12:07:11 PM
Safety call for 'congested' road

Colin Shepheard, of Rhos on Sea, said something must be done to prevent cars parking along one side of Marine Road, which runs under the rail line and connects Colwyn Bay promenade to Prince's Drive - after experiencing the congestion problems for himself.

Mr Shepheard, aged 69, said: “A minibus was coming through and didn’t see me. I slipped down the side and he almost hit me.
“It's so dangerous. There’s yellow lines on the side if you're coming up from the prom but nothing on the other side.
"You could put yellow lines down there in one day. I want something done quickly.
“They absolutely fly up that road, plus its full of potholes at the top. It’s only a matter of time until someone gets hurt.”

Mr Shepheard said he has reported the matter to Conwy County Borough Council, as well as Clwyd West MP David Jones.
Mr Jones said: “I’ve spoken with Mr Shepheard and he is quite right. I was driving down there myself just a week ago and I think the problem is, as far as I understand, that they have extended the double yellow lines on Princes Drive so people who parked there have had to move.

“I will be writing to the council about this. I think it does need to be looked at.”

A spokesperson for Conwy County Borough Council environment, roads and facilitiesservice said: “We have received a couple of requests (one from the Town Council) asking that we prohibit parking on both sides of Marine Road, where it runs under the railway and  A55.”

Mr Shepheard added: "I know we're not very well liked on the road, cyclists, but we're not all bad- I just don’t want somebody to get hurt.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/160240/rhos-on-sea-cyclist-in-safety-call-for-congested-road.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/160240/rhos-on-sea-cyclist-in-safety-call-for-congested-road.aspx)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on March 28, 2016, 01:14:14 PM
While yellow lines will help......a complete resurface would aid safety at the junction with Princes Drive, the surface has been dug away with people moving off up a hill under acceleration. Driving a mototbilke in the dark would certainly be a test to endure in the wet!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2016, 02:21:45 PM
That section of the road is dangerous with so many cars parking there now.    It's very difficult to see anything coming the other way as Mr Shepheard found out to his cost.
With more and more people parking there it's time that parking of any sort is stopped.  Double yellow lines with single or double yellow lines on the kerb should be introduced as soon as possible before a serious accident occurs. 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on March 31, 2016, 08:51:36 AM
Looks like work has started on Geordies again to turn it into a Co-op, workman have have fenced all around and big skips have arrived.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 07, 2016, 12:42:29 PM
Calls for action over Rhos on Sea accident blackspot
Rebecca Nicholson, owner of First Steps nursery on Llandudno Road, said something must be done to slow drivers down after the second car in six weeks collided with the nursery wall in Brompton Avenue on March 29.

On Monday she was visited by Conwy County Council’s traffic and network manager to discuss her concerns.
Ms Nicholson, who has two sons aged five and 17, said: “"He said he is going to look at what he can do to make it safer on the bend.
"It's got to be something that physically slows people down. Something has got to be done - there’s something wrong with that part of the road.
“I’ve got to safeguard everyone in this business, when the car hit last time it was right where we park the nursery car on the other side.

David Jones, MP for Clwyd West, also visited the site.
He said: “It’s quite worrying, there have been two quite serious accidents in the last six weeks, and it has been cars coming down the hill from Llandudno.
“There are two issues here - the state of the road and the issue of pedestrian crossing.
“I have asked the council to look at all the issues.”

A spokesperson for Conwy County Borough Council said: “The council’s primary focus is to identify locations where there have been multiple accidents and casualties; bids can then be made for Welsh Government funding for improvements.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/160648/calls-for-action-over-rhos-on-sea-accident-blackspot.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/160648/calls-for-action-over-rhos-on-sea-accident-blackspot.aspx)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2016, 01:06:55 PM
Steve,  I've driven past that spot many times since the last accident and I still can't understand how these accidents are happening under normal driving conditions.
I had been trying to work out which direction they were driving in and couldn't work it out until I read a bit on the accident.
Approaching the traffic lights from Hickory's, you are clearly in a 30mph zone and the white lines in the centre of the road are quite clear.  So how did that driver cross lanes, mount the kerb and then hit the wall?
Bad driving is obviously the cause of the accident but if there are no signs warning of traffic lights before the bend and the downhill stretch then perhaps a warning sign may help.
You'll always get speeding drivers and bad drivers so there isn't an obvious solution to it.     Colwyn Road in  Craigside Llandudno also has a problem with drivers hitting the stone walls but it's not the road that is the problem it's just bad drivers.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 07, 2016, 01:50:55 PM
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Steve,  I've driven past that spot many times since the last accident and I still can't understand how these accidents are happening under normal driving conditions.
I had been trying to work out which direction they were driving in and couldn't work it out until I read a bit on the accident.
" it's not the road that is the problem it's just bad drivers."

I have to agree, ...... We will see if the council does anything.      *snore*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on April 07, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
 Going back a few posts, back to the rhos golf club being for sale for just under a million.
Anyone remember or see a t v programme around 15 years ago or maybe longer entitled Welsh millionaires or maybe north wales Welsh millionaires.
  I watched it. Mainly because Robin Jones was featured, and I have known Robin for a good few years back in the road haulage days. Suffice to say ---- say no more. A man once met never forgotten.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: norman08 on April 07, 2016, 06:24:39 PM
In Ohio ( America ) they used to have accidents approaching traffic light so about 100/200 yards from the light they put lights that flashed to warn of light going to change ,traffic slowed result no more accidents ,I know a small difference.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
Sounds like a good idea Norman, they could try that at certain problem areas.       $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 07, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
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Steve,  I've driven past that spot many times since the last accident and I still can't understand how these accidents are happening under normal driving conditions.
I had been trying to work out which direction they were driving in and couldn't work it out until I read a bit on the accident.
" it's not the road that is the problem it's just bad drivers."

I have to agree, ...... We will see if the council does anything.      *snore*

I have also been up and down that road many times, nothing wrong with the road, wonder if they were on their phones?  ?{}?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2016, 07:52:09 PM
That could be the reason ME but you would think that it would be one of the first things that the Police would check when they were on the scene.
I was walking my dog this morning,  and at a busy T junction there was this idiot on the phone.  She was doing a U turn right on the junction with one hand on the wheel and one hand on her phone. When she finished that she then stopped her car at the next T junction going down the hill and carried on talking on the phone completely oblivious to me being there or any traffic behind her.
If using the phone while driving is as bad as they say then the culprit should be banned and not just fined and have a few points on their licence.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on April 07, 2016, 09:56:13 PM
  In one country I visited this winter every set of lights has a countdown to when they were going to change to red. It was along a fairly major road and although I was only a passenger I could appreciate how it helped. No Amber gambling there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: TheMedz on April 08, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
With regard to ME's query regarding the driver possibly being on the phone.  Is it only my phone or my network provider EE) or do all networks lose a signal between the church and the traffic lights? I've never been able to work out why whenever I've been a passenger and I am in the middle of a call I always lose  a signal there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 08, 2016, 12:00:30 PM
Rhos-on-Sea Co-op store build starts...again
Co-op has started work - for a second time - on its £750,000 new store in Rhos-on-Sea.

Co-op started work last summer to remove the garage facilities at the Llandudno Road Texaco garage and convenience store known locally as ‘Geordie’s Garage’.
They had originally hoped to open the store in late summer 2015 but workers had to down tools after it was discovered a fresh planning application was needed.

Now Co-op has received the planning go-ahead and the workforce are now back on site with the new store expected to open this autumn.
A spokesman for The Co-op said: “The new store will enhance the service that the Co-op provides in the area and, enable it to better serve the community.
MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-sea-co-op-store-11153586 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-sea-co-op-store-11153586)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 15, 2016, 05:29:13 PM
Petition launched to save Rhos on Sea house from demolition
MORE than a thousand people have backed a petition calling on planners to refuse the demolition of a house in Rhos on Sea.

So far 1154 people have backed the call on Change.org, which asks Conwy County Borough Council to save Odestone - a house in Marine Drive, Rhos on Sea - after a planning application was submitted by agent Cadnant Planning on behalf of Madock Development Ltd to demolish the property and build 12 apartments.

Conwy County Council has also received a number of objections from neighbors, some describing the house - which backs onto Rhos on Sea Golf Course - as having sentimental and historical importance.

The petition reads: “Odstone house is a house with so much history and all local people hold so much respect for this old property.

“Everyone in the local area was so glad when it finally was sold because we all felt a sense of relief that it would be looked after in its present condition, little did we all know that a building company that isn't local has gone and bought this lovely house to demolish its history for yet another eyesore block of apartments.
“We as a community do not want this to happen.”

A design access statement submitted by agent Cadnant Planning states: “As the existing
dwelling is set back from the main development line of the settlement, the proposed building would be more similar to the development grain of the existing dwellings and Golf Club House to the east and West of the site.
“Therefore the building will match the character of this coastal front.”

To read or sign the petition, visit https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea (https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea)

Cadnant Planning has been approached for a comment.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/161009/petition-launched-to-save-rhos-on-sea-house-from-demolition.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/161009/petition-launched-to-save-rhos-on-sea-house-from-demolition.aspx)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 15, 2016, 07:28:24 PM
I have signed it, saw it on Facebook this morning.  $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2016, 09:27:43 AM
I wonder if the building application was made before or after the destruction of the mature trees in the garden?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 20, 2016, 12:01:00 PM
Barrier collapses on Rhos on Sea promenade

Ageing metal safety barriers along Rhos on Sea promenade have corroded so badly that a section collapsed and fell into the sea on Monday, sparking safety fears.

In some sections crumbling steel barriers are being replaced by council staff with tape, rope and temporary barriers to stop people falling from the promenade into the sea or onto the beach.
Rhos on Sea bed and breakfast owner Colin Hazelden said: “ Conwy Council are seriously neglecting their responsibility to keep the public safe in this important tourist destination.

“The barriers stretching from the pier to Rhos on Sea are in a desperate state.
“They have just corroded away, and if someone falls through them they could face a 20-foot drop in some places.

MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/barrier-collapses-rhos-sea-promenade-11211520 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/barrier-collapses-rhos-sea-promenade-11211520)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 20, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
DEVELOPERS have withdrawn an application to demolish a house in Rhos on Sea after thousands opposed plans to turn it into apartments.
 
More than 2350 people backed the call on Change.org, which asked Conwy County Borough Council to save Odestone - a house in Marine Drive, Rhos on Sea - after a planning application was submitted by agent Cadnant Planning on behalf of Madoc Development Ltd to demolish the property and build 12 apartments.
 
But on Tuesday, April 19 the application - which also received several objections from neighbours - was withdrawn.
 
A design access statement submitted by agent Cadnant Planning said the proposed development - the site of which backs on to Rhos on Sea golf course - would have been similar to the development grain of the existing dwellings and Golf Club House to the east and West of the site, matching the character of the coastal front.
 
It was also proposed that the development would retain the onsite cave and include the erection of a plaque in the boundary wall so pedestrians could read the myth about Prince Madoc setting sail for America from Rhos Jetty near to the property.
 
The petition against the development reads: “Odstone house is a house with so much history and all local people hold so much respect for this old property.
 
“Everyone in the local area was so glad when it finally was sold because we all felt a sense of relief that it would be looked after in its present condition, little did we all know that a building company that isn't local has gone and bought this lovely house to demolish its history for yet another eyesore block of apartments.
 
“We as a community do not want this to happen.”
 To see the petition, visit https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea (https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea)
 
Cadnant Planning has been approached for a comment.      REF Pioneer
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2016, 06:37:14 PM
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DEVELOPERS have withdrawn an application to demolish a house in Rhos on Sea after thousands opposed plans to turn it into apartments.
 
More than 2350 people backed the call on Change.org, which asked Conwy County Borough Council to save Odestone - a house in Marine Drive, Rhos on Sea - after a planning application was submitted by agent Cadnant Planning on behalf of Madoc Development Ltd to demolish the property and build 12 apartments.
 
But on Tuesday, April 19 the application - which also received several objections from neighbours - was withdrawn.
 
A design access statement submitted by agent Cadnant Planning said the proposed development - the site of which backs on to Rhos on Sea golf course - would have been similar to the development grain of the existing dwellings and Golf Club House to the east and West of the site, matching the character of the coastal front.
 
It was also proposed that the development would retain the onsite cave and include the erection of a plaque in the boundary wall so pedestrians could read the myth about Prince Madoc setting sail for America from Rhos Jetty near to the property.
 
The petition against the development reads: “Odstone house is a house with so much history and all local people hold so much respect for this old property.
 
“Everyone in the local area was so glad when it finally was sold because we all felt a sense of relief that it would be looked after in its present condition, little did we all know that a building company that isn't local has gone and bought this lovely house to demolish its history for yet another eyesore block of apartments.
 
“We as a community do not want this to happen.”
 To see the petition, visit https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea (https://www.change.org/p/conwy-council-save-the-demolition-of-odstone-house-179-marine-drive-rhos-on-sea)
 
Cadnant Planning has been approached for a comment.      REF Pioneer

Can we now expect the house to be abandoned, until the inevitable 'mysterious fire' occurs or will the owners do the decent thing and sell it?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2016, 06:38:55 PM
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Barrier collapses on Rhos on Sea promenade

Ageing metal safety barriers along Rhos on Sea promenade have corroded so badly that a section collapsed and fell into the sea on Monday, sparking safety fears.

In some sections crumbling steel barriers are being replaced by council staff with tape, rope and temporary barriers to stop people falling from the promenade into the sea or onto the beach.
Rhos on Sea bed and breakfast owner Colin Hazelden said: “ Conwy Council are seriously neglecting their responsibility to keep the public safe in this important tourist destination.

“The barriers stretching from the pier to Rhos on Sea are in a desperate state.
“They have just corroded away, and if someone falls through them they could face a 20-foot drop in some places.

MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/barrier-collapses-rhos-sea-promenade-11211520 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/barrier-collapses-rhos-sea-promenade-11211520)

CCBC are avoiding maintaining the railings as they are scheduled for replacement in the prom refurbishment scheme.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2016, 01:36:22 PM
"Can we now expect the house to be abandoned, until the inevitable 'mysterious fire' occurs."

D.R.   I thought the same thing, they gave in to easily, are they going to play the waiting game like the other properties we have mentioned on here before...  &shake&
Not to mention the state that it has been left in already, they need shot, they have ruined it, and should be held responsible.

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2016, 01:37:06 PM
Just gone past Odstone, there is a surveying team with drilling rig in the front garden - odd that they are still surveying the site when the planning application has been withdrawn?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
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Just gone past Odstone, there is a surveying team with drilling rig in the front garden - odd that they are still surveying the site when the planning application has been withdrawn?

I went past too Dave and was surprised to see people working on the site so soon.    The application has been withdrawn but I think that is because of the strength of feeling in the area.   I believe that they are looking at the original application again with a view to submit another modified  plan in the future.
Whenever a building application goes in and anyone wishes to object to it then they should apply for tree preservation orders to be applied to any suitable mature trees.
What this developer has done is to remove those trees before a TPO is introduced and this takes one obstacle away.
I haven't seen the plans that were originally submitted but would imagine that the apartments would have been brought forward to the building line of the other properties and there get maximum profit from the site.
Perhaps I'm cynical but I don't trust developers and I wouldn't be surprised by anything they do.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 22, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
It is obvious why the developer bought the house in the first place.   It wasn't bought for use as a house or otherwise they wouldn't have destroyed the garden like they have done,   
They are a business and their sole purpose is to maximise profit on their outlay and they will achieve this only if the house is demolished and as many apartments as allowable are erected on this site.
I've seen this happen quite a few times and it actually happened to a group I was involved with.    A well known PLC wanted to demolish two houses in our street that stood in a large plot of land and then build 5 massive houses in their place.     We employed a Consultant to represent the people objecting to the demolition and the application by the PLC was defeated as was there appeal to the Welsh Office.
I wanted to post part of the Consultants objection to the demolition but my computer is playing up at present,        :rage:        :rage:

Anyway I've just shown extracts  from our objection:-
POLICY BE17;  Demolition
Para 6.54        The demolition of residential buildings outside of conservation areas will be resisted where they contribute to the character of the area and are worthy of protection  for this reason.

There are many more examples that I could list and will do so when that computer works again       :rage:     :rage:

My own opinion as to what will happen is that the builder may sit tight on the property and will allow it to deteriorate so that it won't be viable to restore it  OR there may be a mysterious fire inside the property and it will be gutted.     
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 22, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
I think that I may have been able to sort out some things on the computer and I'll post them below.     They are copies of an objection that we raised in 2008 against a large PLC that wanted to demolish two properties in our street then replace them with 5 massive houses.
The Planning regulations may have changed or the Policy numbers in that period but I would imagine that the principle is the same.

I've only posted them in case anyone wants examples of objections if and when the next application is made.    Building firms can just sit tight until the time is right and then make the application.
My opinion for what it's worth is that the building will just be allowed to deteriorate until it is not viable to restore or a possible mysterious fire happens.  I just hope that I'm proved wrong
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on April 22, 2016, 01:24:09 PM
This smacks of Penmorfa.....and look what a mess that looks !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Meleri on April 22, 2016, 02:47:24 PM
I have had a quick look at the planning application and it seems Natural Resources Wales recommend a more detailed model on flood levels. The site is in a C1 flood risk zone and they haven't taken into consideration the flood risk from the original course of the Afon Ganol. NRW will have to be satisfied that the increase in density does not compromise the safety of future residents of the scheme and that the risks/consequences of flooding can be acceptably managed.
There is lots of interesting fact and a 3D sketches of how it will look. If anyone wants a look go to the Conwy County Borough Planning site click Viewing & Commenting on Planning Applications. then click Search by Application,In the application box put in 0/42592, click on the green writing Application No, click View Documents. This will bring you to all the info such as plans, input from various departments etc and letters of objection.
One thing I noticed on the application form in answer to the question, 'Is the site currently vacant' they replied No. Surely that can't be right as it's well over 10 years since anyone lived there. Also the number of car spaces is going up from 2 to 28, so that is probably one of the reasons they have cleared the garden.
It's a very sad time for all the Counties in Wales as the Welsh Ministers are pushing to build more much needed housing, but greedy developers are being opportunistic and using a loop hole this has caused to build in areas that normally it wouldn't be allowed, in the race to meet the targets WAG have set.  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: poppy on April 22, 2016, 03:15:33 PM
http://edm.conwy.gov.uk/Planning/lg/dialog.page?lang=en&org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&ref_no=0/42592&viewdocs=true (http://edm.conwy.gov.uk/Planning/lg/dialog.page?lang=en&org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&ref_no=0/42592&viewdocs=true)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 22, 2016, 04:25:34 PM
Lots of good info there ....but I think it is shows the real reason the plans were withdrawn, and not the efforts of the petitioners, they still have a fight on there hands, I wish them well.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
VIDEO: Rare water spout spotted off the coast of Rhos-on-Sea.
A VERY rare force of nature was spotted off the coast of Rhos-on-Sea yesterday.
A water spout was seen twisting between the sea and sky around lunch time on Wednesday 28 after a bout of wind and hot and cold weather.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/161504/video-rare-water-spout-spotted-off-the-coast-of-rhos-on-sea.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/161504/video-rare-water-spout-spotted-off-the-coast-of-rhos-on-sea.aspx)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on May 12, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
Excellent job being done with replacing the rotten railings from Rhos towards the C. B. Pier. Lovely new plastic coated steel ones being put in.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 12, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
Here here. Admire them every day
K
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on May 25, 2016, 09:58:46 AM
Looks like work has finally started turning Geordies into a Co op, they were ripping out the windows etc yesterday.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 25, 2016, 12:56:07 PM
  The "homeless" man camped out on the bench at the old Rhs pier entrance. Whatever the rights ad wrongs of his actions, I really do think he is pushing his luck. He haven't been thrown out with only the cloths he stands up in. The pile of his belongings grows and grows every day. It's not an exaggeration to say it will soon need a van to take it all away. In the meantime he is enjoying himself stripping off from the waist upwards and sunbathing around tea time on sunny evenings.
  Rhos can do without this sort of attraction.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
OMG !  :o Spare us that sight ! As the weeks have passed his belongings have multiplied----------one thinks of The Lady in the Van... usually when we pass he has been laid flat out covered in duvets and other coverings. I have a heck of a job to stop the dog going up to him for a sniff round, and worse.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on May 25, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
Maybe he's doing a 'Reggie Perrin'?   
Turned his back on the rat race.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2016, 08:37:27 PM
Looked a bit 'spaced out' the last time I saw him in a sitting position. Surprised no one has offered some kind of help and shelter to him, especially after last Sunday's rain. He must have been soaked.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 26, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
A friend of mine takes him something to eat every lunch time and she has contacted the Social Services a few times to get him the help he needs.   The Social Services were already aware of his plight but nothing appears to have been done yet.
My wife took him a package which included a torch, batteries, chocolate and crisps  and a few more things that she thought that he might need and he took the package, looked inside and said thanks but I've got everything I need already and handed it back to her
That old saying that "beggars can't be choosers"  isn't always right then.      ???
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2016, 04:39:14 PM
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A friend of mine takes him something to eat every lunch time and she has contacted the Social Services a few times to get him the help he needs.   The Social Services were already aware of his plight but nothing appears to have been done yet.
My wife took him a package which included a torch, batteries, chocolate and crisps  and a few more things that she thought that he might need and he took the package, looked inside and said thanks but I've got everything I need already and handed it back to her
That old saying that "beggars can't be choosers"  isn't always right then.      ???
Are the crisps and chocolate still available at all, Hugo?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 26, 2016, 06:04:41 PM
Waste not, want not  I had the chocs and my wife had the crisps and they tasted very nice indeed!          ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 26, 2016, 10:55:09 PM
   I suppose i am not really surprised that he said he has everything he needs. The amount of bags,cases,suitcases etc he has around him on the bench, they must be full of something. So, O.K. he is not in desperate need. All the more reason that someone should shift him off his bench and tell him to take his bags with him.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on May 27, 2016, 10:47:01 AM
Is he homeless? Surely CCBC could provide B&B for him as they can for any other homeless person?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 27, 2016, 11:02:20 AM
I can't remember exactly what my friend said about her conversation with the Social Services, but I think that it's not quite straight forward.  But the wheels are not turning quick enough because that conversation was about 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on May 27, 2016, 11:12:37 AM
Yes, he's  been there well over a month, I think?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 27, 2016, 02:28:02 PM
I'm advised that he has already been offered Hostel accommodation by the Social Services so I'm assuming that he has turned that down too.       ???
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2016, 03:54:20 PM
We drove past the other day, looks a right mess, how is that allowed?  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 27, 2016, 09:35:21 PM
  if he has been offered some sort of a roof over his head and turned it down, well just tell him to go---and take his stuff with him. The building he is sheltering in belongs to Colwyn council. Therefore presumably the bench is provided by Conwy council for up to 6/8 people to sit on. Not for him to practice getting a suntan on his manly chest. If he won't budge then I am afraid its up to the Police.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: wally on June 05, 2016, 04:03:07 PM
I see the toilets on Rhos promenade opposite the Cayley pub are due to close for 8 weeks from 6th June, for refurbishment. There's no doubt that the work needs doing, but the timing seems strange, at the height of the tourist season. Also,the sign notifying the closure makes no mention of any alternative toilets in the area. Its almost as if the council are doing their best to discourage tourism. Its a shame, when they have just done such a good job of replacing the prom railings.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
How ridiculous can this council get? Perhaps they could put some portable loos in the vicinity.......but no they won't have thought of people's needs!

Do you think that they might bring the snowploughs out during August? :o
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2016, 10:35:59 AM
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I see the toilets on Rhos promenade opposite the Cayley pub are due to close for 8 weeks from 6th June, for refurbishment. There's no doubt that the work needs doing, but the timing seems strange, at the height of the tourist season. Also,the sign notifying the closure makes no mention of any alternative toilets in the area. Its almost as if the council are doing their best to discourage tourism. Its a shame, when they have just done such a good job of replacing the prom railings.
Unbelievable timing, who in their right mind would schedule the work in the summer season?!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: wally on June 06, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
I emailed the council this morning and this is their response.

"The work was scheduled to start today at Combermere Gardens and temporary toilets are included in the scope of works (hence the omission of alternatives from the signage), but due to unforeseen circumstances the temporary facilities could not be delivered, therefore the public convenience will remain open until  the temporary facilities arrive on site.
The specification of the temporary facility is yet to be confirmed, however, the contractor has been made aware of the footfall and the facility will be monitored and maintained by Conwy CBC convenience operatives."
 
This doesnt explain why the work is being done in the holiday season, but at least it appears that there will be alternative facilities
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 06, 2016, 07:38:58 PM
At least some form of common sense has prevailed, but  why choose the busy holiday season in the first place.     ???
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 06, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
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I emailed the council this morning and this is their response.

"The work was scheduled to start today at Combermere Gardens and temporary toilets are included in the scope of works (hence the omission of alternatives from the signage), but due to unforeseen circumstances the temporary facilities could not be delivered, therefore the public convenience will remain open until  the temporary facilities arrive on site.
The specification of the temporary facility is yet to be confirmed, however, the contractor has been made aware of the footfall and the facility will be monitored and maintained by Conwy CBC convenience operatives."
 
This doesnt explain why the work is being done in the holiday season, but at least it appears that there will be alternative facilities

Funny that................a friend went this morning and they were closed!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: wally on June 07, 2016, 01:47:50 PM
Were there any temporary toilets available?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2016, 03:48:12 PM
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Were there any temporary toilets available?

Not then, but apparently they are in the pipe line. Bit late if you are bursting !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2016, 04:35:58 PM
Homeless man to be evicted from shelter in Rhos



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-homeless-man-evicted-11445638 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-homeless-man-evicted-11445638)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2016, 04:45:05 PM
Sorry to leap frog Hugo, The Pioneer has just released this article............

Concerns have been raised that a decision to temporarily close public toilets on Rhos on Sea promenade will affect summer trade.

Conwy Council has confirmed the public conveniences in the resort's Combermere Gardens, will close in the next few days for eight weeks while essential work takes place.
They will be replaced by temporary facilities.

Business owners have expressed their concerns that the closure of the facilities will deter tourists who flock to the resort during the summer months.

Sharon Williams, manager of La Reina cafe said: "It's ridiculous to close the toilets now. Why didn't they do the work in the winter, when Rhos is like a ghost town?
"It makes no sense to me.
"And what about disabled people? Will they be able to use the temporary toilets? If not, what are they supposed to do?
“This news has not gone down well with the businesses around here.”

Ceri Jones from Marmalade's cafe, said: "It's a quite worrying that the toilets are closing just as it's getting into busy season.
"There are no other public toilets for miles as far as I know. I hope it doesn't put people off but I think it definitely could.
"It will be awful if it has a negative impact on businesses here, we don't want visitors being forced to go elsewhere because there are no decent public conveniences."

A spokesman for Conwy Council said: "The public convenience at Combermere Gardens, Rhos-on-Sea, will close in the next few days for essential work to take place; temporary facilities will be provided whilst the work takes place.

"The work was scheduled to start today (June 6) but due to unforeseen circumstances the temporary facilities could not be delivered, therefore the public convenience will remain open until the temporary facilities arrive on site."
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 08, 2016, 06:06:37 PM
The old saying about not being able to organise a P*** up in a Brewery comes to mind ! :o
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 09, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
Latest news from Conwy CBC is that the work on the toilets is due to be deferred until after the holidays !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 09, 2016, 08:03:16 PM
Horra from me. And maybe from the gentleman who lives at the entrance to the old Rhos pier. Not in the BUS shelter is quoted in the Daily Post. The last bus that stopped there would have been the council run bus from this point to old Colwyn end of prom. Ceased around 1985.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 09, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-chiefs-hit-back-11450566 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-chiefs-hit-back-11450566)

Walked past this morning, it really is getting worse and he must get wet when it rains .
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Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2016, 08:38:56 AM
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Horra from me. And maybe from the gentleman who lives at the entrance to the old Rhos pier. Not in the BUS shelter is quoted in the Daily Post. The last bus that stopped there would have been the council run bus from this point to old Colwyn end of prom. Ceased around 1985.
What amazes me is that some people thought it was acceptable for the guy to live in a shelter and thought the council should leave him alone!  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Wonder if these people have actually walked past and seen the rubbish and smelled the smell?
Sounds awful I know, but we have begun to cross the road to avoid the dog sniffing at everything.
It worries me that he is so keen on being opposite the children's paddling pool and playground............Or is that just me?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 10, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
I'm amazed he has been allowed to be there so long, especially with all that junk! I bet if I opened a stall selling stuff there I would soon be moved on!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bosun on June 10, 2016, 01:13:01 PM
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Wonder if these people have actually walked past and seen the rubbish and smelled the smell?
Sounds awful I know, but we have begun to cross the road to avoid the dog sniffing at everything.
It worries me that he is so keen on being opposite the children's paddling pool and playground............Or is that just me?

Nemesis, it's not just you, it's many of us. He has had numerous offers of help and accommodation. The Local Authority Social Services are under a statutory duty to find accommodation for anyone 'homeless' who requests it, and in common with the vast majority that live in similar circumstances to this man, they refuse accommodation and all other offers of help from Social Services and welfare groups. Often there is a history of substance abuse and/or mental health issues. Whilst he is perfectly entitled to refuse help and assistance, he should not be free to cause a situation that is a blight on local residents and businesses, a health hazard and an appalling sight to those who are on holiday in the area.

Of course it's only natural for residents and parents to be concerned and wonder what man who refuses help and lives in appalling and unsanitary conditions, can also be capable of.   
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 10, 2016, 09:51:52 PM
 Carrying on the homeless man thread. This is a bit lighthearted so please take it in that list.
  Concerns are written about the childrens playground opposite. No one has written the word but we all know the thoughts ----  might he be a pe-----.? Hope he hasn't got wifi under his blankets.
  But in present day climate of child protection I myself might have found ourselves in trouble. But this was 70 years ago, a different world, but the acts were committed just yards away from this shelter just on the other side of Abbey Road.
  Should I confess now, 70 years later.?   Well, go on then.
  On the far side of Abbey Road was  I think it is called a wattle fence between the pavement and Rhos swimming pool. Strips of wood weaved together so you couldn't see in without paying your sixpence at the turnstile. Except for in the middle of the stretch where the wattle was somewhat broken. This was because there was a ten foot or so tall stone waterfall with water splashing around and into the pool.
   You could always pick out the nasty boys who had been spying through the gaps to catch a glimpse of th local beauty queens in their bathing customs. Because they were always soaking wet from the neck down.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 10, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
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   You could always pick out the nasty boys who had been spying through the gaps to catch a glimpse of th local beauty queens in their bathing customs. Because they were always soaking wet from the neck down.


How did you explain your wet clothes to your parents Mike!            naughty boy      $smack$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 10, 2016, 10:14:47 PM
   The only response to that that I can think of is we knew we would be in hot water. But that was better than the freezing cold water from the pool. Matt Breeze the manager had a blackboard announcing the daily temperature of the water. Everyone knew that he always "doctored" this information.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 11, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
My Dad had a film of me swimming in there as a child. You could see my teeth chattering. Pity it was destroyed...we might have seen an eye looking through a hole in the fence !! :o ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on June 11, 2016, 09:58:45 PM
   Yes. And might I say a very nice eyeful the young (and older) Nemesis would have been
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 12, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
Further to our man in the shelter........he was sitting outside Nino's at 5:10pm on Friday taking in the air with a large mug of something and a cigarette. He is also making use of licensed establishments in the locality I am informed. His shelter does catch the eye when you pass and will not be surprised if he gets visitors when he is not at home.
With public toilets and and the sea to wash in he appears to have all facilities to hand at present and no fees to pay for camping.

Still  think that corner is a bit dangerous with the number of cars that cannot get round it without mounting the kerb/go down the bank/hit the building etc!! 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 14, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
He was still there fast asleep in that alcove when I went past this afternoon.       I'm assured that the Mental Health authority and Social Services were aware of his plight  long before the local authority applied for his eviction notice and that he had been offered accommodation but had turned it down.
He obviously has some problems and needs help but whatever the problems are the litter problem could be resolved if he just walked a few yards from the alcove to a litter bin and put the rubbish in it.     
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 16, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
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Lots of good info there ....but I think it is shows the real reason the plans were withdrawn, and not the efforts of the petitioners, they still have a fight on there hands, I wish them well.

I passed the house yesterday and there was no evidence of any work going on but I don't think that the developers  have given up on this.  From a business point of view for what they paid for the house they can afford to sit tight for a while and once the house deteriorates so badly and is not viable to restore they can put their application in again to demolish the building and it will probably be granted.
That's what developers are like, we have seen it all before and it's still going on in Llandudno
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 16, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
I agree, and talking of previous fiascoes, I have not been past Aberhod this year, has anything happened or happening ?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 17, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
I drove past the Aberhod this morning and took some photos to show you what the development looks like now.  It's a while since I saw the plans for the site but if the Puppet Theatre is not part of the plans for redevelopment then it looks like it's a large over development on a small plot.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2016, 01:33:31 PM
Thanks for that Hugo, nice to see a roof on the building and work progressing, lets hope they do justice to this historic site.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 17, 2016, 02:58:53 PM
I also stopped at Odstone by Rhos on Sea  Golf Course and there was no activity at all going on.   The gate was locked and the sign said that there was CCTV coverage going on so I just  took a few photos of the place.   From what I could see the place was secure and no broken windows or missing roof tiles etc so I wonder how they are trying to get around the objections made to the application for planning, that they have since withdrawn from.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on June 17, 2016, 06:05:14 PM
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   Yes. And might I say a very nice eyeful the young (and older) Nemesis would have been

Come off it Mike, I've got 4 great-grandchildren !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on June 24, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
I drove from Llandudno to Colwyn Bay at about noon today and after I passed the Llandrillo  College the main road was flooded in many parts.  There must have been heavy localised rain in that area and a Fire engine raced past us in that general direction.
When we arrived in Colwyn Bay though, it wasn't too bad and there was no sign of any flooding there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on July 05, 2016, 08:52:34 PM
I passed the point at Rhos on Sea today and noticed that Jonathon Hughes was still living there despite CCBC obtaining an eviction notice on him.    It's fast approaching the school holidays and the holiday season and he's showing no signs of moving from that place.
CCBC has had a lot of flack over this but in fairness I know for a fact that everything possible has been done to help him including offering him accommodation but he has so far refused the help.
He is in a vulnerable position but it does need sorting out sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on July 07, 2016, 10:58:21 PM
I drove past again today and the homeless man was still in the same spot.  His physical and mental health must be  deteriorating and today he looked awful.    The sooner Social Services and CCBC resolve this then it will be better for him and the authorities.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-homeless-man-still-11584542 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-homeless-man-still-11584542)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on October 26, 2016, 11:55:12 PM
The refurbishment of the conveniences seems to be taking quite a long time, I imagine that if you could see inside you would see four or five men chatting most of the time, if Conwy Council ran a Company they would be bankrupt very quickly.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2016, 04:41:41 PM
High tide was more than two hours away when I took these photos today and the weather was starting to get rough.      The breakwater that they built some years ago has certainly saved Rhos from flooding many times and the boats in the harbour  today seemed unaffected by the stormy weather but the high tide was still to come  ....
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on November 29, 2016, 07:35:41 PM
The plans for Odstone are back again


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9Mjg3NjQxMTcwNDgmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9X0wtRXJlUXdGcExHX2h5RHkyM0IwQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=28764117048&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&ck=ce7f489d198191e126caec1fe1a3765d
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on November 30, 2016, 08:54:11 AM
Developers never give up. The plans for the new building are unbelievably hideous - it looks like a 1980s care home.  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 30, 2016, 09:15:33 AM
Amazing how that lovely house has to be destroyed to make way for that monstrosity!   &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 30, 2016, 01:19:46 PM
Odstone has been on the market for years, if it was such a terrific asset worth restoring, surely someone would have bought it by now?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 30, 2016, 01:45:17 PM
Not if it was overpriced for the condition that it was in.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on November 30, 2016, 03:31:36 PM
The plans look absolutely horrific.. :o :o :o :o
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Post by: born2run on January 25, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4155414/One-legged-woman-gets-rude-reply-ladies-club-enquiry.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4155414/One-legged-woman-gets-rude-reply-ladies-club-enquiry.html)

Daily mail today took a break from their usual Trumpxit licking and immigrant bashing to post this story about a disabled woman from Rhos on Sea.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on January 25, 2017, 05:05:04 PM
There are few things that make me long for a return to summary execution, but the DFM heads the list.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 26, 2017, 08:28:56 AM
We broke that story. *humblebrag*
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on January 26, 2017, 08:53:19 AM
I wonder if she ever uses a prosthesis? I was struck by one line in the DFM quote which suggested this wasn't the first time she'd written to the group.
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Post by: born2run on January 26, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
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There are few things that make me long for a return to summary execution, but the DFM heads the list.

To be fair most of the comments on this particular article are very reasonable. A refreshing change from the normally 'best rated' comments of putting all refugees in concentration camps.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 05, 2017, 10:42:46 PM
A planning application for Odstone was made on the 20th Feb 2017

0/43706 Grid Reference: 283064,381348
Application Type: Full Case Officer: Ceri Thomas
Determination Level Planning Committee Team: DC East Team
Received Date : 03/02/2017 Registered Date: 15/02/2017
Development Type(s): New Development
Ward: Llandrillo Yn Rhos
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Bay of Colwyn Town Council
Location: Odstone 179 Marine Drive Rhos On Sea LL28 4LA
Proposal: Demolition of 1 dwelling and the erection of 12 apartments.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 06, 2017, 10:58:45 AM
I see the number of proposed flats 12 has not changed, I wonder what, if anything has. .?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2017, 11:29:24 AM
I haven't seen the latest plans Steve but they were originally talking about 3 and 4 bedroom flats.    That's a bit OTT  but I wouldn't like to own one that is near to the clubhouse.       :golf:
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on April 05, 2017, 01:09:43 PM
I think we definitely need a topic relating to incompetence by councils.  The latest snippet concerns asbestos being used as infill in Rhos playground:

\http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/horrified-dad-finds-potentially-deadly-12846201?ptnr_rid=497104&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter_News_Mediumteaser_Text_Story1

This should be easy to check: "Contractors had been working for the council to upgrade the Rhos-on-Sea play area close to Colwyn Bay cricket club at the time the asbestos was found." So clearly it will be a matter of minutes to identify the guilty party or parties as there will be detailed records relating to this work and it will also have been inspected by a council official.

And no; it's not April 1st...
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 05, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
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I think we definitely need a topic relating to incompetence by councils.  The latest snippet concerns asbestos being used as infill in Rhos playground:
You start it, and I'm sure we will fill it................ $hands$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
Proposed plans for five apartments on the site of a former nursing home likely to be given the go ahead

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/174806/proposed-plans-for-five-apartments-on-site-of-former-rhos-on-sea-nursing-home-looks-set-to-be-given-go-ahead.aspx#.WO5vYbJ5KTE.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/174806/proposed-plans-for-five-apartments-on-site-of-former-rhos-on-sea-nursing-home-looks-set-to-be-given-go-ahead.aspx#.WO5vYbJ5KTE.email)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2017, 05:52:31 PM
The former St Michael's Nursing Home must have had the planning application granted as I drove past today and they had already started work on parts of the building
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on April 21, 2017, 08:58:40 AM
Planning permission has been granted for the flats at Odstone in Rhos on sea. :( :(
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on April 21, 2017, 10:27:01 AM
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The former St Michael's Nursing Home must have had the planning application granted as I drove past today and they had already started work on parts of the building

Would that be where there have been two huge holes in the sides of the bay shaped piece at the front? or am I thinking of another building?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2017, 11:40:53 AM
That's the one Nemesis.   It's an Art Deco styled building and it will be converted into 5 apartments with a penthouse one on the top floor.  So perhaps the building is going up one storey more than it is at present.
I only had a very quick glimpse as I drove past the other day
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on April 21, 2017, 01:21:27 PM
Those 'holes' seem to have been there for ages. Trouble is you have to watch where you are going if you are driving !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2017, 10:36:52 PM
The former St Michael's home has now been given the green light to be converted into 5 flats

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175142/green-light-given-for-five-apartments-to-be-built-in-rhos-on-sea.aspx#.WP5tAda5vWI.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/175142/green-light-given-for-five-apartments-to-be-built-in-rhos-on-sea.aspx#.WP5tAda5vWI.email)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on April 26, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
Hello

Well, i was in Rhos earlier this week and it looks like work on Aberhod is progressing towards the end - at last. Flats I gather. It's been a long saga.

TL
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Meleri on May 30, 2017, 02:35:27 PM
It looks as though the Odstones development has had the go ahead  &shake& it was decided at The Planning Committee meeting 20th April. Sorry if this has been mentioned before as it has only just come to my attention and I can't remember reading anything in the press either.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Post edited as rumour was not true!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 12, 2017, 01:08:04 PM
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I hear the legendary Nino is finally calling it a day at the end of the season.
Very sad news, he and his family have been part of Rhos since I was a child. I understand another local ice cream family will be taking over the premises.
Thanks for all the happy memories, Nino.  $good$

Indeed many happy memories, that will be 80 years in Rhos, not bad going.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 12, 2017, 01:18:03 PM
FWIW, we've just spoken to Nino who has flatly denied he's retiring and called it a "nasty rumour"  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 12, 2017, 01:23:15 PM
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FWIW, we've just spoken to Nino who has flatly denied he's retiring and called it a "nasty rumour"  :-X :-X :-X

OK more memories to come.....  $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2017, 09:06:44 AM
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FWIW, we've just spoken to Nino who has flatly denied he's retiring and called it a "nasty rumour"  :-X :-X :-X
Bit odd that, as everyone in Rhos is talking about it. But it's great news, regardless. Rhos wouldn't be the same without Ninos.  $good$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 13, 2017, 10:38:57 AM
Nino is definitely finishing.....I was told by 2 sources over the weekend.
We were in school at the same time as Nino and he always liked to keep people guesing....good bloke who has worked hard and at 56 probably wants to live a bit.


Tom....watch out for a horse's head in your bed..he is of Italian lineage!

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on June 13, 2017, 10:53:15 AM
Rubbish coffee at Ninos, strange for an Italian cafe.
Any one know what is going to be built on the church site? which is soon to be demolished, hope its a mini Waitrose.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2017, 10:59:42 AM
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Rubbish coffee at Ninos, strange for an Italian cafe.
Any one know what is going to be built on the church site? which is soon to be demolished, hope its a mini Waitrose.
I'm told that the Co-op is moving there.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2017, 12:21:37 PM
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Rubbish coffee at Ninos, strange for an Italian cafe.
Any one know what is going to be built on the church site? which is soon to be demolished, hope its a mini Waitrose.
I'm told that the Co-op is moving there.
Plan for the new Co-op here:
https://tinyurl.com/y9sacg4g
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on June 13, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
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Tom....watch out for a horse's head in your bed..he is of Italian lineage!

The family itself comes from Sicily... ¢¢##
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 13, 2017, 01:35:53 PM
Been nice knowing you all.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on June 13, 2017, 01:53:36 PM
If Nino is retiring, i would have thought his lad, Luca, would step up to the plate????
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: bigbadhenry on June 14, 2017, 11:07:08 AM
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Been nice knowing you all.

Where off to Tom ????
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on June 14, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
I hear he's taking a long let on a Yurt near Katmandu...  ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2017, 06:10:57 PM
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Been nice knowing you all.

Where off to Tom ????
He's been made an offer he can't refuse.

FWIW, ive heard that the staff in Ninos have been given their notice as it will be closed for a 3 month refurb once sold..?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 15, 2017, 11:14:09 AM
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Rubbish coffee at Ninos, strange for an Italian cafe.
Any one know what is going to be built on the church site? which is soon to be demolished, hope its a mini Waitrose.
I'm told that the Co-op is moving there.

Co-op buys Tesco development site for new store
The retailer wants to build a shop at the site of a former church in Rhos-on-Sea.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/co-op-buys-tesco-development-13186886 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/co-op-buys-tesco-development-13186886)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2017, 02:58:01 PM
The kiosk on the Cayley Promenade that has that pink Fiat outside was really busy today but the bacon and egg bap I had was well worth waiting for.     It was high tide and really warm and sunny there and that's my excuse for having an ice cream too.
I moved on to Rhos and you can understand why people like the area a lot
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 09, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
Sorry to hear the Puppet theater has had a fire, damaging 80% of the interior, hope they get sorted soon.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/09/gallery/rhos-on-sea-puppet-theatre-cancels-shows-after-fire-damage-92437/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/09/gallery/rhos-on-sea-puppet-theatre-cancels-shows-after-fire-damage-92437/)
Title: The Coffee Pot, Cayley Prom
Post by: Caz on August 09, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Hi - anybody know if The Coffee Pot kiosk on Cayley Prom has changed hands?
Title: Re: The Coffee Pot, Cayley Prom
Post by: Nemesis on August 09, 2017, 09:25:26 PM
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Hi - anybody know if The Coffee Pot kiosk on Cayley Prom has changed hands?

Is the 'pink car' as Hugo calls it still there?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 09, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
Nemesis,  I've been there a couple of times recently but the pink car wasn't there.    The first time I went there an eastern European chap who served me and the next time a black guy did.   Both very nice guys and the same girls were working there but I don't know if the business has changed hands.
If it has then I can only wish the previous owners all the best as they were such lovely people, still don't like the colour of that pink Fiat though
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Gavel on August 10, 2017, 11:29:25 PM
The Coffee Pot has changed hands but I don't have any other info.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2017, 08:35:00 AM
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FWIW, we've just spoken to Nino who has flatly denied he's retiring and called it a "nasty rumour"  :-X :-X :-X
Odd how behind the counter in the cafe is now full of Happy Retirement cards then...  ?{}? $cofffee$
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2017, 09:06:20 AM
Very skilful, these pranksters...
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on August 24, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
Passed Oddstone today not a very happy picture with its keep out notice , wonder what will replace it some monstrosity I should think .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2017, 08:45:45 AM
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Passed Oddstone today not a very happy picture with its keep out notice , wonder what will replace it some monstrosity I should think .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 25, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
It won't be long before Odstone is demolished as I was going past at noon, just as the crane was arriving
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
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It won't be long before Odstone is demolished as I was going past at noon, just as the crane was arriving

Demolition started today, strange on a bank holiday,        disgraceful shame  &shake&
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on August 29, 2017, 09:41:59 AM
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It won't be long before Odstone is demolished as I was going past at noon, just as the crane was arriving

Demolition started today, strange on a bank holiday,        disgraceful shame  &shake&
Yes, i've always thought of Odstone as one of those quirky landmark buildings that really added to the character of the Colwyn Bay area.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on August 30, 2017, 12:37:43 PM
Hello everyone

Sadly, Odstone is no more. I drove past last night and the bulldozer was standing over the site.

Are there any photos online of the interior? Cadw seem to have found it disappointing, and did not support listing.

TL
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2017, 01:51:07 PM
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Hello everyone
Sadly, Odstone is no more. I drove past last night and the bulldozer was standing over the site.
Are there any photos online of the interior? Cadw seem to have found it disappointing, and did not support listing.

A few details here.....
http://www.coastmarinaproperties.co.uk/props/728/ODSTONE_RHOS_ON_SEA_179_Marine_Drive_Rhos_on_Sea (http://www.coastmarinaproperties.co.uk/props/728/ODSTONE_RHOS_ON_SEA_179_Marine_Drive_Rhos_on_Sea)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2017, 04:51:07 PM
Sadly, this is what Odstone looks like now
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 11, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
Oh look. http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/parisellas-ice-cream-parlour-buys-13602186 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/parisellas-ice-cream-parlour-buys-13602186)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on September 11, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
Tom.....at least you get to confirm the facts from those of us with our ears to the ground.......months ago!!i

.

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2017, 08:43:33 AM
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Tom.....at least you get to confirm the facts from those of us with our ears to the ground.......months ago!!i
:-X
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 12, 2017, 02:54:05 PM
Nino denied he was retiring when my colleague spoke to him a few months ago - but thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on November 07, 2017, 08:10:23 PM
Nino still running his cafe he was on his lunch break when we called , thought he was handing over at the start of the Month . Also passed Oddstone workmens Vehicles out side heavy traffic so could not see what was going on
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: temperancellandudno on December 13, 2017, 11:56:44 PM
Hello everyone

I called at Rhos Point Books recently and the gent there said that he will be closing the shop at or around the end of April. I've bought quite a few books off over the years but it looks like he will close the shop and trade at book fairs in future. Not sure when exactly he began there, but i think he was there 15 years ago.

TL
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
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Hello everyone

I called at Rhos Point Books recently and the gent there said that he will be closing the shop at or around the end of April. I've bought quite a few books off over the years but it looks like he will close the shop and trade at book fairs in future. Not sure when exactly he began there, but i think he was there 15 years ago.

TL
The plan was that his little shop was to be incorporated into a refurbished Ninos cafe.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
It was a nice Winter's day in Rhos today and the tide was on it's way out when I took these photos
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 10, 2018, 04:03:08 PM
It  was a nice sunny afternoon in Rhos today and good to see so many people walking about there
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on January 19, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
Appeal to public to give hero's farewell to Rhos on Sea WWII veteran who survived Japanese 'hell ship' and even Hiroshima
British Legion and RAF appeal for public to come to funeral of Herbert Haines, who died in Rhos on Sea aged 97 with very few surviving relatives.

The British Legion and RAF are hoping the public will help give a hero’s farewell to a Second World War airman who died leaving few relatives behind to attend his funeral.

Herbert James Haines - known as Jim - was 97 when he passed away in Rhos on Sea. He is survived only by his elderly wife Vera, who is too ill to attend the send-off, and one relation who lives in Devon.


Mr Haines survived prisoner of war camps in the far east, including time in Hiroshima before and after it was bombed by US forces at the end of the conflict, and veterans charities and forces chiefs want to make sure his funeral is well-attended by people willing to show gratitude for the sacrifices he made during his remarkable military career.

Mr Haines’ wife Vera is in a nursing home and is understood to be suffering from dementia and so is unable to attend.

Herbert James Haines’ public funeral is taking place at Colwyn Bay Crematorium on 11am on Monday.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/war-veteran-funeral-haines-colwyn-14177706 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/war-veteran-funeral-haines-colwyn-14177706)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
Will anyone be attending, to show respects?
I think he deserves that to commemorate a long life full of huge achievements many of us could not imagine going through.
One doesn’t have to know the man in order to salute his life.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on January 21, 2018, 12:28:14 AM
I posted the notice hoping some may be able to attend,  as I unfortunately I cannot, he deserves a good send off, RIP.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on January 22, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
 Dozens of people turned out to pay their respects to a former RAF officer and ‘true gentleman’ who died leaving few relatives behind to attend his funeral.

Herbert James Haines, who died aged 97, had survived prisoner of war camps in the far east, including time in Hiroshima before and after it was bombed by US forces at the end of the conflict.


His death in Rhos-on-Sea prompted an appeal by The British Legion and RAF chiefs, who wanted to make sure his funeral was well-attended by people willing to show gratitude for the sacrifices he made during his remarkable military career.

Today around 100 people joined his wife of 60 years, Vera, and nephew Mark Delamere from Devon, at a service in Colwyn Bay .
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/if-wasnt-men-like-him-14188774 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/if-wasnt-men-like-him-14188774)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on March 04, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
The road below the Cayley embankment was closed this morning, not much to see why at the present, but the tide must have been well over earlier by the amount of sand near the grass.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: cygnusx-1 on March 04, 2018, 03:21:49 PM
It was the same situation yesterday about 11:15 when I was directed over the embankment. The tide was very high in relation to the seawall but some people were still a bit close to the water for their safety.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2018, 03:43:54 PM
The tides have been very high Spring tides (  8.34m on Saturday ) and that coupled with the storm have created those conditions.
The road past the embankment is not normally closed but in the interest of safety CCBC must have arranged for it to be closed.   Normally the Old Colwyn promenade is closed in these conditions but I didn't go and have a look at it.

This is what Rhos looked like at high tide on Friday when I looked out of my window
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Daihardwelshman on March 06, 2018, 10:15:56 AM
Heard from a good source that the deal between Nino and Parasellas is off.........Thought it had taken too long.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 11, 2018, 06:18:04 PM
Hope they don't come, expecting to see Odstone's.....  :(

Legend of Welsh Prince Madoc's discovery of America could boost tourism
According to Welsh mythology the prince sailed from Rhos-on-Sea in 1170 and ended up in Alabama

Now Colwyn BID, the business enterprise tasked with bringing more visitors to the area, has thrown its support behind promoting the story of the voyages of Prince Madoc and his brother Rhiryd - sailing the Atlantic at least four times.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/legend-welsh-prince-madocs-discovery-14385426 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/legend-welsh-prince-madocs-discovery-14385426)

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on March 17, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
The sea was a bit rough at high tide on Rhos Promenade today.    The waves and debris were coming over on to the promenade and one of the strangest things there, apart from myself taking photos was an elderly lady having a coffee by the kiosk where the pink car used to be.
I hope she enjoyed the coffee because she certainly deserved it for braving the elements there today
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on March 18, 2018, 07:56:52 AM
Seem to remember an old sailors cry of “ship ahoo “. This photograph. Maybe skip ahoo
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on April 25, 2018, 03:40:42 PM
A deal for ice cream maker Parisella's to take over the famous Nino's pizza restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea has collapsed.

It was announced last year that the popular Parisella’s brand would take on the seafront site in the village and create a 120-seat café bar, patisserie and ice cream parlour.
This would have meant the end of an era for Nino Cerefice whose grandfather opened the cafe in 1938.

Nino told the Daily Post he was staying at the cafe.
Carrie Parisella said while this had deal fallen though she was determined to bring her parlour brand to Rhos-on-Sea.
She said: "It is regrettable that this deal has fallen through due to unforeseen circumstances.
"But our sights are firmly set on opening a new upmarket gelato in Rhos-on-Sea. We are now looking at other sites in the village."

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/ice-cream-parlour-deal-famous-14574937 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/ice-cream-parlour-deal-famous-14574937)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2018, 02:57:24 PM
The Co-op’s plans to demolish the former United Reformed Church Hall on Colwyn Avenue in Rhos-on-Sea and replace it with a shop have been passed.
Co-op bosses aim to shut down their current store at a former cinema on Penrhyn Avenue and move staff to the new site.

Planning inspector Declan Beggan approved the proposals despite Conwy Council’s planning committee previously turning them down

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/supermarket-giant-gets-go-ahead-14638491 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/supermarket-giant-gets-go-ahead-14638491)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on May 11, 2018, 07:30:19 PM
I read the article in the Daily Post re planning permission for the new Coop Shop , what I don't understand is the objections put forward by CCBC out of character for the area etc , Yet they have no objection to the appearance of the monstrosity they intend erecting on the Pier Pavilion site ,  is it me or have I missed something , there appears to be no logic to there decisions .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 11, 2018, 09:52:29 PM
  Back to the post about the Cerefice family ice cream parlour in Rhos.  I grew up within a very short distance of it. I don't remember it during the 39/45 war and of course it has to be remembered that Italy was definitely an enemy in that war. Anyway after the war it was open and i was a regular customer with my pocket money. I remember the man serving the ices had a strong accent. Very unusual to me being brought up hearing nothing but Manchester accents everywhere. So I knew Mr Cerefice was Italian.
   For many years afterwards when I heard that accent I thought Oh Italians. I was only when I was an adult that I found out that Mr Cerefice came from Scotland. Ha
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on May 11, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
   This isn't really a Rhos matter. But Old Colwyn is only just along the prom.
    I've known it all my life. Travelled through it thousands of times. So the following is a surprise to me.
   The Arriva 12 route to Rhyl has an automatic stop announcing system. So I was surprised when I heard the main stop in Old Colwyn right in the middle middle of the village is announced as Bethesda. Both on the speaker and the visual board. Any one know how or why Arriva think its called that. I've never ever heard anyone calling it that. The Ship inn would be the most likely name although I know that is now closed
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2018, 10:58:01 AM
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   This isn't really a Rhos matter. But Old Colwyn is only just along the prom.
    I've known it all my life. Travelled through it thousands of times. So the following is a surprise to me.
   The Arriva 12 route to Rhyl has an automatic stop announcing system. So I was surprised when I heard the main stop in Old Colwyn right in the middle middle of the village is announced as Bethesda. Both on the speaker and the visual board. Any one know how or why Arriva think its called that. I've never ever heard anyone calling it that. The Ship inn would be the most likely name although I know that is now closed
It's named after the Bethesda Chapel. Ship Inn is used for the bus stop on the other side of the road.

http://colwynbayheritage.org.uk/bethesda-welsh-methodist-church-abergele-road/ (http://colwynbayheritage.org.uk/bethesda-welsh-methodist-church-abergele-road/)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: OrmeMac on May 15, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Curiously isn't there a "Top Shop" bus stop nearby or at least on that route too?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2018, 08:45:06 AM
A lot of the bus stop names are out of date. There's the 'Ship Inn' in Rhos, for example, which has been closed for quite a few years now.

On the 12 Route, I noticed that there's a 'ghost stop' when travelling through Penrhyn Bay towards Llandudno. The automated system announces 'Penrhyn Bay Post Office' but there's never been a bus stop on that side of the road there, and the bus driver just ignores it.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 18, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
The North Wales Medical Centre is another obsolete bus stop.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on May 18, 2018, 02:06:42 PM
Some still call it "Lady Forester's", Bri.

Seriously, the one that always amuses me is the first stop after Conwy towards Bangor.  This is actually Cadnant Park, but the inbus information shows "Town Ditch" and simultaneously the voice over says "Bodlondeb".

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 18, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
I was at Rhos earlier today and the harbour was looking good in the Spring sunshine.    There were loads of people about which is always a good thing 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 18, 2018, 07:46:56 PM
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Some still call it "Lady Forester's", Bri.

Old habits die hard, Cambrian, but it is only the number 5 service that still refers to it as the North Wales Medical Centre.

I would like to think that someone at Arriva Buses (presumably in Bangor?) are able to amend their system  ;)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Neil on May 19, 2018, 09:02:03 PM
Rhos on Sea today.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Ian on May 20, 2018, 08:20:11 AM
And that's the difference a sandy beach makes.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on June 05, 2018, 06:37:03 PM
Ahoy There Me Hearties!
You be invited t’ enjoy a swashbucklin’ weekend o’ Entertainment in Rhos on Sea, North Wales. You land lubbers will enjoy t’ entertainment at this year’s event.

When ? 9th & 10th June 2018
Where ? Rhos on Sea, North Wales
Who ? All o’ you!
What ? Buccaneers, Scallywags & Salty Sea Dogs
How ? T’ event be free t’ attend but any donated doubloons be welcome.

http://conwypirates.co.uk/ (http://conwypirates.co.uk/)

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 09, 2018, 07:14:31 PM
I see on Facebook that Hickory's have cut down the lovely old tree that has been there for many, many years! Surprised they were allowed to do that!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on June 14, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
I notice work has started on the Oddstone site
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on July 03, 2018, 10:30:35 PM
In case you are interested in one of the 12 apartments to be built in the grounds of Oddstone they have prices ranging from £1.2 million to £650K        :o

Fletcher & Poole estate agents in Rhos on Sea are dealing with the sales
https://www.fletcherpoole.com/ (https://www.fletcherpoole.com/)


Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on July 20, 2018, 08:05:00 PM
 Speeding. Remember ch constable Brunson reputed to have overseen a sheep trailer which had a camera inside it.
  Anyway today to saw an orange coloured tourer van parked alongside a road. With just one small window at the rear. Situated to one side. No markings on vehicle. No visible person in it.
  Not a human being in sight. Virtually no vehicles around. Unlimited vision in both directions.
  Where was it parked. You probable guessed. Alongside the Cayley embankment.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on July 24, 2018, 02:30:45 PM
Thanks for the info Hugo re Oddstone  development ,the prices appear to be expensive even for Rhos .also the site area is not that big I wonder how they intend constructing 12 units with parking or garaging for 12 cars , there is also a new development on the former nursing home site on Marine Drive 1 penthouse apartment & 2 other apartments priced at £650.000 and £450.000 . respectively .Then there is the Aberhod  site and the Everard Road site with unsold units all costing in excess of £400,00 ,be interesting to see how long they take to sell
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2018, 04:31:34 PM
They are providing parking space for 2 cars for each apartment plus an unspecified number of guest spots too.
You don't get a garage for a mere £1.2m so I'm afraid the seagulls are not going to show any mercy just because you drive a Rolls!
It wasn't that long ago it was mentioned that the whole of the adjoining golf course set up was available for £1m but I don't know if it was actually sold.
 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
Title:   Rhos Point Development, Rhos on Sea, Conwy
Published by:   Conwy County Borough Council
Publication Date:   07/08/2018
Deadline Date:   13/09/2018
Deadline Time:   12:00
Notice Type:   Contract Notice
Has Documents:   Yes
Has ESPD:   No
Abstract:   The Rhos Point site, Rhos on Sea, Conwy presents an opportunity to establish a contemporary development in an area with a unique ‘sense of place’ enjoyed by residents and visitors alike. The existing Cafe buildings have reached the end of their useful life and Conwy County Borough Council now seek to collaborate with a party to revitalize the Rhos Point site and provide a sustainable commercial development . The aspiration is to have a high quality build, providing year round services with permanent employment contract which will enhance and complement the local economy and add benefit to an extensive regeneration program of improvements to the waterfront and associated access routes.

https://www.sell2wales.gov.wales/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=AUG262229 (https://www.sell2wales.gov.wales/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=AUG262229)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on August 13, 2018, 03:21:59 PM
At one time it was thought that Dylan's were going for that site but chose the Washington instead.  It would make a great place for a good restaurant
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on October 19, 2018, 01:29:38 PM
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In case you are interested in one of the 12 apartments to be built in the grounds of Oddstone they have prices ranging from £1.2 million to £650K        :o

Fletcher & Poole estate agents in Rhos on Sea are dealing with the sales
https://www.fletcherpoole.com/ (https://www.fletcherpoole.com/)

They must be in a hurry for the money, quite surprised to see the extent of the steel work frame, when I passed this morning.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2018, 05:19:42 PM
Rhos harbour looked good in the Autumn sunshine when I went past today so I stopped and took a few photos
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2018, 01:18:14 PM
The long running saga of Nino's, to sell or not to sell, appears to be over............

An 'iconic' cafe business on the seafront in Rhos-on-Sea has been sold after 80 years with the same family.

Nino's opened in 1938 when Nino Cerefice's grandfather came to the town from Italy via Scotland.
It has remained in the Cerefice family since then - with the cafe well known across the local area.

But now local firm Graze Catering - in partnership with other investors - has taken on the business with Nino and his son Luca moving into the ice cream business with a mobile van.

 "End of an era, 1938-2018 the first time in Nino's cafe history the cafe is leased out to a non-family member."
"May we take this opportunity to thank all valued customers past and present. It wouldn’t have been Nino's without all the wonderful and loyal staff we have had over our 80 years in business."

Rob Haley, from Graze Catering, who also run the food outlets at the Welsh Mountain Zoo in Colwyn Bay, said: "Nino's has been part of life in Rhos-on-Sea for so many decades, it is an iconic cafe.
"When we saw there was an opportunity to take it on we decided to go for it. Opportunities like this don't come up very often.
REF DP
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea...................XMAS FAYRE
Post by: SteveH on December 05, 2018, 10:47:46 AM
The Rhos-on-Sea Christmas Fayre will see the seaside-community come to life with everything from a giant snow globe and treasure hunt to indoor bouncy castle and market.

No Christmas Fayre would be complete without a visit from Father Christmas himself who will be in his grotto at the Little Lily and co (18 Everard Road) throughout the course of the event.

The event will be held this Saturday between 11am and 5pm spanning across the entire village.
Le Sport will play host to an indoor bouncy castle, Christmas market and carousel while carols and face painting will take place in front of other businesses within the community.

The event is sponsored by the Bay of Colwyn Town Council and Colwyn BID.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on January 24, 2019, 04:54:00 PM
The Farm Shop in Colwyn Avenue seems to have closed. Anyone know why ?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 24, 2019, 10:39:46 PM
Is that the greengrocers on the corner near Bryan Davies' estate agents Cambrian?       If it is the one, then that's a shame because it's a great little shop and the staff there are so friendly and helpful
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on January 25, 2019, 01:43:41 PM
That's the one, Hugo.  I agree a good shop and one of the very few where you could get Becws Alun bread!
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2019, 05:25:27 PM
Thanks Cambrian,   that's a shame if it has closed because it was a good little shop.     I always thought that it was just a Greengrocers and the first time I went there was to buy some bananas but when I went inside to pay the aroma of the baking tempted me to buy a load of home made scones and cakes.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
Rhos Point has finally been sold by CCBC, only took them about 8 years to sell a prime redevelopment site. But who’s the buyer? And what plans does he have? Only the Shadow knows....
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on February 22, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
Someone has jumped the gun........

Seafront development 'not sold' - despite the sign - but key announcement is due
A sold signed was placed on the buildings at Rhos Point in Rhos-on-Sea this week.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/seafront-development-not-sold-despite-15866536 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/seafront-development-not-sold-despite-15866536)

Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on February 22, 2019, 06:54:28 PM
Hugo The small green grocers shop has closed for health reasons I believe , however it is reopening but as what nobody has any information we will have to wait and see .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on February 22, 2019, 07:39:47 PM
Thanks very much for posting that Robbie and I'm sorry to hear about the health issues because the staff there have been so pleasant.    I hope that their health improves soon
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Michael on February 25, 2019, 12:24:16 PM
Hi Dave, your comments about the buildings at the entrance to the Rhos pier.
  I note you say they been empty for 8 years which is correct. But I am sure you will recall two prominent members of the threetiwnsforum approached the council around seven years ago asking about them and what the council plans for the future.
  I know the two members were impressed with the two council officers they met. They told me that the meeting was productive and cordial, and that the officers promised you would be hearing from them shortly.
   Seeing as I knew all the people concerned I thought to myself you will be lucky haha if you expect a reply.
      Still waiting?  Ha
    Mike
   
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: spotty dog on February 26, 2019, 08:14:56 PM
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exciting-plans-rhos-point-successful-15891600 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exciting-plans-rhos-point-successful-15891600)

Decision made on this poi t cafe
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on February 27, 2019, 12:38:20 PM
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https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exciting-plans-rhos-point-successful-15891600 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exciting-plans-rhos-point-successful-15891600)

Decision made on this poi t cafe

If he's looking for a developer he could always ask Mr Waldron for a quote     ;D
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
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Hi Dave, your comments about the buildings at the entrance to the Rhos pier.
  I note you say they been empty for 8 years which is correct. But I am sure you will recall two prominent members of the threetiwnsforum approached the council around seven years ago asking about them and what the council plans for the future.
  I know the two members were impressed with the two council officers they met. They told me that the meeting was productive and cordial, and that the officers promised you would be hearing from them shortly.
   Seeing as I knew all the people concerned I thought to myself you will be lucky haha if you expect a reply.
      Still waiting?  Ha
    Mike
 
Yes, we are still waiting to hear back from them, Mike. They told us that there had been a lot of interested parties clamouring to buy the site. Odd how it was still derelict all those years later, really?
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on March 01, 2019, 02:58:13 PM
1st Shelter below the Cayley demolished and the site cleared. The work man says there are no plans to replace it that he knows of and there are 2 more to be demolished. Hope they put a few seats of some kind on there !
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2019, 10:38:14 AM
This is exactly what Llandudno Pier owner has planned for Rhos Point - and we're already excited
The site at nearby Rhos on Sea has fallen into disrepair but if all goes well, it'll get a huge Mediterranean makeover.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exactly-what-llandudno-pier-owner-15896334 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exactly-what-llandudno-pier-owner-15896334)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on March 08, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
Brian

Re you post about North Wales Medical Centre bus stop.  I noticed the other day that a new sign has appeared renaming it "Blind Veterans UK Centre". 
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 08, 2019, 07:07:50 PM
Thank you, Cambrian.

I wonder if the audible next bus stop announcement on the Number 5 Service has changed as well.

If so, this will be great news to any partially-sighted passengers wishing to alight here.  :)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Cambrian on March 08, 2019, 07:36:59 PM
I have heard that the announcements have been turned off by many drivers as there are various errors and mispronunciations.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 09, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
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1st Shelter below the Cayley demolished and the site cleared. The work man says there are no plans to replace it that he knows of and there are 2 more to be demolished. Hope they put a few seats of some kind on there !

Conwy County Borough Council has begun work this week on the promenade shelters in Rhos on Sea. Two of the shelters were found to have corroded metal and degraded concrete to the extent that they were considered to have come to the end of their useful life, and these have been demolished.
The remaining five shelters will be undergoing a programme of repair.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: norman08 on March 09, 2019, 01:34:48 PM
About 4/5 years ago chatting to a person on Llandudno prom he said they had the funding for 3or4 new shelter wonder where that money has gone.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Nemesis on March 09, 2019, 02:19:02 PM
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1st Shelter below the Cayley demolished and the site cleared. The work man says there are no plans to replace it that he knows of and there are 2 more to be demolished. Hope they put a few seats of some kind on there !

Posted this on March 1st !. Nothing more been done since, except that the far café kiosk looks to be being renovated.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2019, 10:22:18 AM
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This is exactly what Llandudno Pier owner has planned for Rhos Point - and we're already excited
The site at nearby Rhos on Sea has fallen into disrepair but if all goes well, it'll get a huge Mediterranean makeover.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exactly-what-llandudno-pier-owner-15896334 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/exactly-what-llandudno-pier-owner-15896334)
Back in the 1970s, a large section of Rhos Point was a very pleasant open area for people to sit and look at the view. In my view, its a shame to see the entire area disappear under buildings - CCBC seems more interested in making money than thinking about the public interest.
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 16, 2019, 10:35:53 AM
A new supermarket - that was approved by a planning inspector despite local opposition - is due to open this autumn.

Co-op’s plans to demolish the former United Reformed Church Hall on Colwyn Avenue in Rhos-on-Sea were approved last May.

Planning inspector Declan Beggan gave it the go-ahead despite Conwy Council’s planning committee previously turning the application down.    Cont     https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/co-op-reveals-new-north-15981834 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/co-op-reveals-new-north-15981834)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Robbie G on March 22, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
I notice the greengrocers shop  in Rhos has reopened as a craft and gift shop , it also surprisingly sells  cakes and other goodies lets hope it is successful .
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea .......... Serious crash on Prom
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
People are being cut free from their car after it crashed onto rocks on the seafront.

Emergency services are currently on West Promenade at Rhos-on-Sea after a car crashed through the barriers and onto rocks below.

Firefighters, paramedics and police are on the scene of the incident.

Firefighters have been using cutting tools to help free the people in the car.

DP report and photos    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-people-cut-free-car-16275855 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-people-cut-free-car-16275855)
Title: Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2019, 03:28:11 PM
Something similar happened a few years ago by St Trillo's Chapel in Rhos and I think that they were lucky to escape with the injuries they sustained as it could have been far worse.
I hope that the people in this car were not seriously injured