Three Towns Forum
The Local => Times Past => Topic started by: Llechwedd on May 05, 2011, 12:20:08 pm
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In the latest edition of the Gwynedd Family History magazine there is an article about an architect called John Lloyd who designed many buildings in north west Wales including the Wesleyan chapel in Chapel Street, Conwy,1826. It also refers to him having designed the police station in Church Walks, 1855. Anyone know where? I know there was and is the building in Court Street but don't know where this police station was/is.
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Florence House was the former Police Station, 5 Vardre Lane.
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Go between the Parade and the Vic. and it is there.
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vardre lane, llandudno - Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?um=1&hl=en&biw=1020&bih=587&q=vardre%20lane%2C%20llandudno&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il)
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My guess would be Capri in Church Walks, the town's first Town Hall & Magistrates Court. It was also the HQ of the Llandudno Association for the Prosecution of Felons, the forerunner of the Police. It shows a construction date of 1854, so about right.
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Bit of a toss up really, Florence House is shown as Listed Grade II in 1976 and shown as Police Station and Court House. Court Street runs alongside so would make sense.
Grade: II
Date Listed: 16 March 1976
Cadw Building ID: 3494
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Ivor Wynne Jones (pg51 of his book) says that the Town's Police Station was located in Court Street from 1854 to 1915. So who's correct? ???
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Florence House is on the corner of Court Street and Vardre Lane. Or should that be Vardre Lane and Court Street. And is Ivor Wynne Jones correct? $good$
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If Florence House is the large double fronted property that is painted blue, then the entrance is in Vadre Lane, so my money's on Yorkie! $good$
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That's the one - Google Street view shows it very well. ZXZ
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I'm going with Florence house as the first Police Station. It would appear that Capri was the original Town Hall.
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I am totally overwhelmed by the support! ZXZ
I like this type of question, because not being a local, I spend time delving into nooks and crannies to discover information and generally find that whilst looking up one thing I discover other information of interest about the area. Keep 'em coming and let's see if I can get some more correct answers.
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Has this thread metamorphasised from Quiz Time?
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Realised after I had posed the question, but was a few minutes too late to make a modification. Maybe am Admin person can just delete the question part and pop it onto the Quiz section.*******
Some of these threads do get metamorphosed from time to time, we must be more careful. _))*
****** On second thoughts I'll pop it on the Quiz myself.
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Thanks for this everyone. I knew about Florence House because my grand mother used to live there in a flat not a jail cell! But the article mentioned states Church Walks and 1855 so maybe he's mistaken.
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I'm going with Florence house as the first Police Station. It would appear that Capri was the original Town Hall.
The first "Police Station" was the parish lock-up behind Church Walks close to King William Street cottages, which were in front of Tan Yr Ogof Terrace.
This consisted of two tiny, narrow, low rooms. The oak doors were almost hidden by square nails. The lock-up was so small, that a person could barely turn around in them.
The Parish Constable was Owen Owens in the 1830's, who had the responsibility of keeping the King's Peace. If unable to perform this task, he was required to inform the Justices, who would then summon the Military to impose order.
In 1839 the Constable received backing from a newly founded Llandudno Association for the Prosecution of Felons, which offered rewards for the successful prosecution of criminals, who infringed the property rights of it's members.
The conviction of a burglar earned five guineas.
Two guineas was paid for the prosecution of anyone arrested for feloniously milking a cow.