Three Towns Forum
Members' Lounge => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Trojan on March 30, 2011, 03:22:10 am
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President Obama's full speech to the American people on the US mission in Libya.
Read the full transcript here: http://to.pbs.org/hGRCoK (http://to.pbs.org/hGRCoK)
Watch President Obama's Full Speech on the U.S. Mission in Libya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUXEiwJiKj4#ws)
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You could summarise it into bullet points as follows.
Bad man has been persecuting his people
We will now STOP selling arms to the bad man
We fancy getting rid of the bad man
We will ignore other bad men in Burma and Zimbabwe
This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
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You could summarise it into bullet points as follows.
Bad man has been persecuting his people
We will now STOP selling arms to the bad man
We fancy getting rid of the bad man
We will ignore other bad men in Burma and Zimbabwe
This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
Yes, basically.
"We decided to muscle in, but now are going to sit back and let our allies take over, as it's much cheaper for the American taxpayer that way."
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Indeed.
When Gadaffi was behind the murder of a UK Policewoman, we didn't bomb him.
When he was behind the horrific murders over Lockerbie ... there was a long winded trial... we didn't bomb him
When Gadaffi wanted to buy weapons to control his people ... we were too happy to do business.
Now ... he attacks NON British people with those very weapons, and we open a can of whoop-ass on him!
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Dr Gerry Mander: the therapist the stars trust
Dear Dr Mander
For many years, I have presided despotically over a regime famed for its cruelty. I have maintained my vice-like grip by humiliating anyone with ambition, dashing their hopes of a better future, while bribing a tiny elite to remain outwardly loyal. There are superficial trappings of democracy, giving the masses some illusion that they control things. But really it is a personality cult. I am colossally vain, demanding an entourage of personal attendants, nurses, lackeys etc. I tolerate no criticism and enjoy playing rival factions in my administration off against each other. It's not easy running The X Factor. Now I want to expand into the US and I need a trusted deputy to take over the operation at home. I'm not sure anyone in the world is up to it.
Simon Cowell
Dear Mr Cowell
It is difficult for a regime that is centralised around a charismatic figurehead to survive transition to a new leader. You don't want The X Factor to Balkanise into autonomous shows run by warlords such as Louis Walsh and Cheryl Cole. You need someone with experience of total, megalomaniac control. As it happens, I have the perfect candidate, based in Tripoli, who will soon be in need of work abroad. Communications with Libya are a bit tricky right now, but you can contact his agent c/o the London School of Economics.
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This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
Fester, Libya is actually responsible for about 2% of the World's oil supply so they're really not a major player.
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You are right Paddy ...2%.... a very similar percentage as Iraq !, and guess what...we thought it right to depose that leader too.
The Saudi's produce way over 10% of the total, but because we are terrified of them, (or more like they have our top officials in their pocket) we seem to tolerate stonings, beheadings, floggings.... etc, for years.
Nah, its hypocrisy through and through.
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This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
Fester, Libya is actually responsible for about 2% of the World's oil supply so they're really not a major player.
Exactly, but the oil comanies are blaming the hike in petroleum prices on the Libyan conflict.
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This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
Fester, Libya is actually responsible for about 2% of the World's oil supply so they're really not a major player.
Exactly, but the oil comanies are blaming the hike in petroleum prices on the Libyan conflict.
Trojan, they're not "blaming" the Libyan conflict for the hike, they're simply exploiting the price in-elacsticty of oil and using the Libya conflict as an excuse.
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This bad man is sat on a lot of oil!
Fester, Libya is actually responsible for about 2% of the World's oil supply so they're really not a major player.
Exactly, but the oil comanies are blaming the hike in petroleum prices on the Libyan conflict.
Trojan, they're not "blaming" the Libyan conflict for the hike, they're simply exploiting the price in-elacsticty of oil and using the Libya conflict as an excuse.
I suppose you could put it that way too.
The price of oil is not solely determined by physical supply, but also by expected future supply. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, Libya holds the largest proven oil reserve in Africa. Oil speculators raised prices after considering the possibility of a civil war in Libya that would disrupt oil production.
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Sahra Neeley a vivacious, beautiful student has written an interesting analysis:
http://www.cluecho.com/opinion/with-rising-gas-prices-driving-is-a-major-pain-at-the-pump-1.2117607 (http://www.cluecho.com/opinion/with-rising-gas-prices-driving-is-a-major-pain-at-the-pump-1.2117607)
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Sahra Neeley a vivacious, beautiful student has written an interesting analysis:
http://www.cluecho.com/opinion/with-rising-gas-prices-driving-is-a-major-pain-at-the-pump-1.2117607 (http://www.cluecho.com/opinion/with-rising-gas-prices-driving-is-a-major-pain-at-the-pump-1.2117607)
"Most of the oil companies have blamed the rapid price hike on the conflict in Libya".
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"Fifty-eight percent of our oil is imported from other countries.
We only buy 1 percent of it from Libya.
Most of that 58 percent of imported oil comes from Venezuela".
Buying just 1% of Petroleum Spirit from Libya doesn't, in my view, substantiate such a dramatic hike in petrol prices. However, the above figures is from someone living in the US.
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But its most important to point out... that YES, she IS beautiful... vivacious I don't know?... but she's smart too!
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I think the biggest problems where oil prices are concerned lie in the markets - specifically the futures markets. Oil being a commodity on a par with gold, traders continuously jockey to gain the best positions in selling and buying , with the inevitable result that the real cost of the product becomes almost irrelevant.
It's this worrying market globalisation that, if it continues unchecked, will almost certainly result in companies wielding far, far greater power than mere countries in the future . I think it can be argued that in the case of some countries, they already do.
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Sahra Neeley a vivacious, beautiful student
How do you know she's vivacious? 8)
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... .... .... will almost certainly result in companies welding far, far greater power than mere countries in the future .
That will make sure they don't come apart at the seams! WWW
This is the price of fuel on the Isle of Arran! :D £155.60
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Ooops! Corrected now. Thanks!
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Sahra Neeley a vivacious, beautiful student
How do you know she's vivacious? 8)
I gave her some cash, so she could buy petrol.......... 8)
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"Once security is established Libya could be in a very good economic position, says the BBC's Aaron Heselhurst. It has no debt, an estimated $150bn (£91bn) of frozen assets around the world and 144m tonnes of gold. "
Given that's the case, surely we could submit an invoice for the cost of the UK military operation? Payable in Gold, ideally. ;)