But that is where he is spending his time Mike
I've looked and registered on twitter, but I can't make any sense of it!? I'm fine with Facebook though !
To be fair, posting on Twitter is far easier than running a Blog. As both Yorkie and I can testify, coming up with new ideas for posts all the time can be a burden!
I just stick a photo up every day now, it's a lot easier:To be fair, posting on Twitter is far easier than running a Blog. As both Yorkie and I can testify, coming up with new ideas for posts all the time can be a burden!
And thank goodness you're the one who is having to do it now! I had my moments of glory. :D
Hmmm....so one anonymous person is criticising another anonymous person for being anonymous. Have I got that right? What a load of rubbish! :laugh:
I thought everyone knew who Oscar was! Must be terrible to be hounded! :DI thought you said it was several people? ???
I am OSCAR!!
I am OSCAR!!Sorry, I meant to say..... I'm SPARTACUS !!
Who started this topic off? He should be shot
A very daming document has been posted on Facebook, naming names, some high profile ones at that.Just to say that, as an Admin, I do not want to see any allegations made on this Forum, unless the person posting them is happy to put his real name/contact details with the post and accept full personal responsibility for any/all legal repercussions from their post.
Maybe Oscar has been outed at last! $walesflag$
...plus you can't sue for things said in Parliament.That surely wouldn't be a problem unless you were unsure of the facts? In which case, you shouldn't be making any allegations, I'd have thought!
I'm amazed at how much trouble Guto Bebb has gone to, something must have rattled him big time!
Is this the Mr Creamer you're talking about?I'm amazed at how much trouble Guto Bebb has gone to, something must have rattled him big time!
Most of the work was done by Mr Creamer who employed the services of legal advice and private investigators. It was virtually handed on a plate to Bebb. However with a full confession from one particular person the case is now wide open. ZXZ
Is this the Mr Creamer you're talking about?I'm amazed at how much trouble Guto Bebb has gone to, something must have rattled him big time!
Most of the work was done by Mr Creamer who employed the services of legal advice and private investigators. It was virtually handed on a plate to Bebb. However with a full confession from one particular person the case is now wide open. ZXZ
http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2072298/mortgage-fraudsters-hit-gbp540-fine (http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2072298/mortgage-fraudsters-hit-gbp540-fine)
I've no idea who he is, which is why I asked the question. :laugh: You referred to him, so I thought you would know who he is? ???Is this the Mr Creamer you're talking about?I'm amazed at how much trouble Guto Bebb has gone to, something must have rattled him big time!
Most of the work was done by Mr Creamer who employed the services of legal advice and private investigators. It was virtually handed on a plate to Bebb. However with a full confession from one particular person the case is now wide open. ZXZ
http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2072298/mortgage-fraudsters-hit-gbp540-fine (http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2072298/mortgage-fraudsters-hit-gbp540-fine)
As I do not personally know Mr Creamer, I do not know if he is the one or not and am only able quote from the information I have available. Are you saying that it IS the same Mr Creamer?
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Oscar began all those years ago as a valid and wry way of scrutinising local matters, but developed into a site where the authors seemed to believe that they were judge, jury and executioner over everyone who stepped on their toes, imaginary or otherwise.I agree that the Oscar blog certainly lost its way over the years. I've said several times on here that I felt that, on many occasions, serious points raised about local issues were being devalued by mindless and inane comments.
It was an interesting read at times whether morally right or not.
It was an interesting read at times whether morally right or not.
Not if you and your family were on the receiving end of some of those comments as I was on many occasions. However, like Shylock, I will now have my pound of flesh! And maybe a little bit more!
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So just like GB you are only interested because you were getting stick?
I think if you're going to take the moral high ground you should do it anyway not just because it involves yourself.
Let he who is without sin...
It's very odd. Somehow I doubt we've heard it all, by a long way.
Will Guto Bebb dare to repeat the allegations in public? The ball is most certainly in his court. >>>
I think it comes down to how widely the allegation was disseminated and the stature of the person making the allegations. As an MP, Guto's allegations have been widely reported in the press, so would be seen to be far more damaging to the reputation of the injured party than the ramblings of some random person from Conwy.Will Guto Bebb dare to repeat the allegations in public? The ball is most certainly in his court. >>>
I'm no law expert. But didn't Michael Creamer already make these allegations in public? Therefore shouldn't it be him that gets into any civil libel trouble not Guto Plebb who is merely repeating, albeit for his own means, what Creamer has said.
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!
Or on the contrary he knew exactly what he was doing by using Parliamentary Privilege to release the names into the public domain.
Thanks Dave, I think I had just assumed the man would know what he was doing.
Seems like he's even more of a plonker than I first thought!
Or on the contrary he knew exactly what he was doing by using Parliamentary Privilege to release the names into the public domain.
Correct me if I'm wrong. But from what I saw he didn't release all three names - he left out **********?
No names, please! DaveR
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Great, so now we have an overpaid Westminster MP, using his scarce Parliamentary time to talk about annoying Blogs, only because it affected HIM personally, and not because of the many complaints made by constituents over the years.
He is now about to bore his fellow overpaid MP's, who will sleep through his apology in those 'hallowed halls'
He has also spent the time that we pay him so richly for, to meet with Dylan Moore, to apologise to him.
I wonder if it is too much to ask that he return to the matters for which he is so highly compensated, those of the Pier Pavilion, the Beach in Llandudno, and any of the issues on which he stood for election.
I remember him knocking on doors begging for votes, I don't remember him promising to spend time attacking internet bloggers if he were to be elected. I'm sure he had other priorities back then.
Great, so now we have an overpaid Westminster MP, using his scarce Parliamentary time to talk about annoying Blogs, only because it affected HIM personally, and not because of the many complaints made by constituents over the years.
Fester posting at 6.54 p.m. Thats a one hundred percent true forum supporter.
It was only about 6.50 p.m. when I was concerned to see him hobbling into his home on two leg supports. Fester ---- sit down and carry on posting. Your knees will thank you
Oscar's activities have not stopped, but are being continued by others to the annoyance of some users of the Social media sites. Some folk just do not know when to call it a day!I read this post twice, but still couldn't make head nor tail of it? Perhaps you could post some links so we can see what you are on about? ???
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Oscar's activities have not stopped, but are being continued by others to the annoyance of some users of the Social media sites. Some folk just do not know when to call it a day!I read this post twice, but still couldn't make head nor tail of it? Perhaps you could post some links so we can see what you are on about? ???
:rage:
Oscar's activities have not stopped, but are being continued by others to the annoyance of some users of the Social media sites. Some folk just do not know when to call it a day!I read this post twice, but still couldn't make head nor tail of it? Perhaps you could post some links so we can see what you are on about? ???
:rage:
In a nut shell, what I am saying is that some people are still being pestered by trolls, and the "Oscar" tag is still rearing its head. "Social media" = Twitter etc. "Others " = anonymous individuals.
Obviously not Oscar as we know him but others making use of present interest in the subject.
Can't post links as I haven't saved any and am just unfollowing or unfriending the individuals as appropriate.
Next time I'll try writing in proper English like what I was taught.
Oscar's activities have not stopped, but are being continued by others to the annoyance of some users of the Social media sites. Some folk just do not know when to call it a day!I read this post twice, but still couldn't make head nor tail of it? Perhaps you could post some links so we can see what you are on about? ???
:rage:
In a nut shell, what I am saying is that some people are still being pestered by trolls, and the "Oscar" tag is still rearing its head. "Social media" = Twitter etc. "Others " = anonymous individuals.
Obviously not Oscar as we know him but others making use of present interest in the subject.
Can't post links as I haven't saved any and am just unfollowing or unfriending the individuals as appropriate.
Next time I'll try writing in proper English like what I was taught.
If I'm reading your posts correctly what you really mean is that YOU are being pestered by Oscar supporters. As one of his biggest critics who has made out you are taking legal action against him I guess that comes with the territory. I think you would have been better off just doing it without posting anything on sites such as this and drawing attention to yourself on the matter to be honest.
Seem to have hit the wrong button on the last post !
Pojo ...who are you to appear from nowhere?
Guto Bebb should have more on his mind than to worry about criticism from an anonymous poster such was Oscar.
The police I presume have more important things than your reputation to protect and to be honest, I voted for you last time but now..forget it !
I looked at that group photo of 'Victims of Oscar' and saw several convicted criminals. One can well understand why they would not wish their activities to be highlighted, but they should have perhaps considered that more fully before committing the crimes. &shake&
Just to clarify your point...you're saying that someone who sets up a blog purely to harass an individual should face the full force of criminal prosecution?I looked at that group photo of 'Victims of Oscar' and saw several convicted criminals. One can well understand why they would not wish their activities to be highlighted, but they should have perhaps considered that more fully before committing the crimes. &shake&
I think you will find that there are many others that you cannot tarnish with the same brush! Also the ones referred to have already paid their debt to Society and are entitled to the same protection from the law as we all are.
Despite their history they were all willing to put themselves forward and be named in the photograph. It seems that Oscar had a liking for kicking those who were already down. The bigger question is why?
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Just to clarify your point...you're saying that someone who sets up a blog purely to harass an individual should face the full force of criminal prosecution?I looked at that group photo of 'Victims of Oscar' and saw several convicted criminals. One can well understand why they would not wish their activities to be highlighted, but they should have perhaps considered that more fully before committing the crimes. &shake&
I think you will find that there are many others that you cannot tarnish with the same brush! Also the ones referred to have already paid their debt to Society and are entitled to the same protection from the law as we all are.
Despite their history they were all willing to put themselves forward and be named in the photograph. It seems that Oscar had a liking for kicking those who were already down. The bigger question is why?
ZXZ
Seem to have hit the wrong button on the last post !
Pojo ...who are you to appear from nowhere?
Guto Bebb should have more on his mind than to worry about criticism from an anonymous poster such was Oscar.
The police I presume have more important things than your reputation to protect and to be honest, I voted for you last time but now..forget it !
From some other people's perspective, it could be suggested that you were in favour of Internet Trolls plaguing innocent people, casting aspertions about them and their families, trying to destroy their reputation and filling the Blogs and Forums with defamatory comments and the like! Guto Bebb was acting on what he thought was good intelligence when he named those he did, and Oscar himself declared his full involvement with the Thoughts of Oscar Blog.
Guto was putting his case, not just for himself, but for many of his constituants who had logged complaints with him, as their MP. More power to his elbow and the VOO group to rid the Intenet of such people and the improper use of the Social Media sites.
WWW ZXZ
Ah, I see. You obviously have researched the matter well. From my own layman's opinion, I would say that that someone who sets up a blog purely to harass a specific individual would be very likely to have committed a criminal offence under Section 1(1) of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.
Thank you for allowing me to have my drivel published on your Forum.You're welcome. $good$
Just to clarify your point...you're saying that someone who sets up a blog purely to harass an individual should face the full force of criminal prosecution?
But if it is the form of a Blog for general consumption the person has the option of not reading the contents and harassment would be difficult to prove.
QuoteBut if it is the form of a Blog for general consumption the person has the option of not reading the contents and harassment would be difficult to prove.
But the person wouldn't know they were about to be harassed until they'd read the blog, in which case it would be too late.
Thoughts of Yorkie,come on lets have it.
My own view would be that any person setting up a blog to harass someone, in full knowledge of the current legal spotlight upon such matters locally, would almost certainly face criminal charges when they are tracked down. I certainly wouldn't like to be in the shoes of someone running such a blog at the moment and I sincerely hope that no forum member is involved in such a thing.QuoteBut if it is the form of a Blog for general consumption the person has the option of not reading the contents and harassment would be difficult to prove.
But the person wouldn't know they were about to be harassed until they'd read the blog, in which case it would be too late.
Reading just one or two entries would probably be sufficient to give the person an idea of what is on the cards and then they decide whether they want to read more or not. Harassment is continuous, in the face action where the affected person has little or no chance to escape. Each case would depend on the evidence presented at the time, and would probably only result in an injunction being served on the offender.